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Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker is killing two birds with one stone. He is doing defect reduction and removing power from public unions at the same time. The MSM is trying to make the legislation about one issue money, or the other issue removing collective bargaining rights. Both are necessary to fix the problem in the long run and I applaud the Governor for having the balls to stand up to the unions. We the taxpayers have had the public unions hands ringing our necks for too long, squeezing every drop of taxpayer money from us they could possibly get their grubby paws on. This is just the beginning of public union dominoes to fall and causing the democrat base to crumble. The end of the nanny state is near. Halleluyah!
That fascist fukk passes new entitlement programs for his cronies to the tune of $130 M and then wants to cut collective bargaining power to the people? He can go to hell along with Kasich in Ohio.
If you are actually one of the few the public school system taught to read, it's really quite simple spelled out in plain English.
Plunder: How Public Employee Unions are Raiding Treasuries, Controlling Our Lives and Bankrupting the Nation
So now you're pro-government and anti-worker. Do you really think that screwing a bunch of teachers over is going to fix the budget in that state? You think the tax breaks the governor gave are going to create jobs?
The teachers aren't getting screwed. They are simply being given terms more similar to workers in the private sector. The deal that they have had up until now is one that involve the taxpayer getting screwed for their benefit. And yes, tax breaks will create jobs. The private sector will always deploy capital more efficiently that the public sector. Always. The difference is that the jobs produces will actually result in goods and services that are more in demand.
Always? The private sector has deployed your capital to Jamie Dimon. Are you just peachy with that?
Actually, the public sector deploys capital to Jamie Dimon. What world do you live in?
How wretched and sad to see teacher pay, of all things, blamed for even the slightest part of these problems.
The private sector??? It was the Public sector that deployed capital to C. A true private sector enterprise would be bankrupt already, and Dimon would be the laughing stock of the financial world. It was only through the public sector that he survived and prospered.
Terms similar to the private sector??? Teachers in the private sector make more money than public school teachers. Teachers in the private sector are also free to negotiate with the boss.
Perhaps you can explain to us all how the Bush tax cuts created so many jobs.
The private sector, unregulated, will deploy their capital to Switzerland and the Caymans, after first deploying it to China, India and Thailand. I don't see how this country could bend over any further to satisfy big business.
You've almost got it figured out. Just one more step until you reach the conclusion that both the public sector and big business are screwing over everyone else not lucky enough to have their political connections.
+12.5% contribution to your own health coverage.
Feel free to look up the avg. Private teacher salary v. Public teacher salary in Wisconsin, dopey.
Actually, this move by the Governor and legislature may count as killing four birds with one stone.
Wow, you're confused. Private school teachers make significantly LESS than public school teachers.
The rest of your argument falls apart after that one enormous misconception.
And actually, the tax cuts did create jobs....
This is exactly correct; it's frightening to realize that the morons who junked you probably vote; It's amazing that people can't understand something this simple.
The "morons" here responded with factual corrections. So mr. iQ 145: what are the comparative average private vs. public teacher salaries?
http://www.wpri.org/WIInterest/Vol11No3/Niederjohn11.3.pdf shows the wage gap between public teachers being $8-$9K higher than private school teachers. It covers the health insurance benefits of the public sector teachers, and pay of unionized teachers vs non-union, but does not cover total benefits of the unionized public teachers compared to non-union private school teachers.
From that article, the conclusion is the only public teachers that are underpaid are the ones who are really good at their job, as the pay spread from highest to lowest performing is quite small.
unfortunately, it does not cover total compensation for public and private employees. the numbers do not at all match the numbers at http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2011/02/analogy_watch_c.html which are from the BLS.
Which brings up the whole problem that if no one knows or can agree on the numbers, how can anything be resolved? is the Wisconsin State deficit $137 million or $4 billion? That is a huge disparity.
This is the inevitable conclusion to our expansionary policies... our ability to collectively bargain is going to be cast aside... the size and scope of our government dramatically reduced... and the victors of the wealth gap emerge with even more power...
eventually, we get up the nerve to begin collective bargaining again and the cycle beings anew...
I think the way to look at the WI issue is not "screwing over a bunch of teachers", but rather "not stealing from the general populace"... You're talking about a zero sum game bud... it's us or them... better to be them. [not that it hasn't already been us for the last 3+ years].
I'll leave you with a closing thought as to the success of failing to throw dead weight overboard... General Motors.
General Motors was a drop in the bucket compared to the banks.
I agree... so what?
And Darfur pales before Stalin's purges. Your point?
Teachers are govt stupid.
Don't be a dick, L.K.. Supporting one politician isn't anywhere NEAR being pro-government. Take your straw man to hell with you.
I would feel better if he was standing up to the police, fire and hwy patrol unions, but he is not. This is a violation of equal treatment under the law. He is creating a special class- which makes him just another asshole.
Exactly the shit Whitman tried to pull in CA -- making a deal with police and fire.
Well, the police do carry firearms -- we can't have them going "postal", now can we? Guess the firemen also need motivation to actually do their job(s) too. Bottom line: Neither of these professions should be supplied by the govt. at any level.
Unions are no friend of mine and I think they are as corrupt as our government. In this case, Walker has exempted the police,firefighters and state troopers because those three unions supported him. This is all about politics and taking away the unions that support the dems. Wisconsin was in a good financial position until his tax cuts to large corporations. He is just another fuck, like the rest of them.
I presume that you want to end ALL unions, not just public. I mean, after all we have been BAILING THEM OUT and will no see any return of that taxpayer money. If you don't, then you are just another fucking hypocrite. I agree end ALL unions and ALL bailouts, when a company goes down, fuck em. Everyone for themselves, I will do fine in a third world economy. Everyone wants great public services, but does not want to pay for them, fine with me, I can hire and feed my own police force. I am sure none of you mind ME being the law for a while. I like where this is going.
You'd better find yourself a patron lord before you think of becoming the "law". You may have some money and might be the local big swinging dick for a time, but you'll get squashed by the bigger swinging dick if you don't bow down and give it a sweet little suck.
The word union is described as a special interest; a group with commonalities. So to think that there is something wrong with people sharing their ideas concerning their rights is moronic. Everyone will always form special interest groups.
Now if you have a problem with the way a particular union runs their operation, I understand. Unions can be very shady. But hold content for the people involved, not the concept of the union itself.
You are so ignorant and misinformed that you are hopeless.
This govenor is another corporate whore doing their bidding in the guise of reducing the deficit. Name one republican who goes after the banks or military spending, and name one who supports the common man. Corporate cocksuckers all.
Who do you think makes money when the State issues bonds? The Banks
Who gets the future tax benefits of the interest being paid on those bonds? The Bond holders which tend to the the wealthy (think PIMCO)
Now tell me how it is in the benefit of the Wisconsin taxpayer to increase the State debt? WHO ACTUALLY IS THE BENEFICIARY? When you answer that, you know where to point your anger.
Ron Paul and Rand Paul. Now name one banker cocksucking Democrat who has gone after the bankers. Cocksuckers Obama & Holder just decided that Angelo Mozilo did not commit any crimes. No criminal charges will be filed against him or any other bankers. LOL
I wonder if Walker will attack the cops' unions next. I wonder what they'll do if so.
IX :: The Battle in Madison: A Sign of Things to Come
While bloated federal and state spending has grown to staggering levels of debt, and demands immediate attention, any cut in spending or attempts to reduce the deficit must first come at the expense of the organized criminal class that has looted the national economy. Any cuts that happen before that need to be understood as an escalation and extension of the attacks on the American people.
While continuing their attacks on American small businesses and private-sector workers, the global financial elite are now stepping up their attacks on public workers. In this context, the Wisconsin state government attacks against the state teachers’ union doesn’t have anything to do with the old Democrat Vs. Republican divide and conquer debates of the past. This is about people fighting back against their economic oppressors. In Egypt, Mubarak was the Neo-Liberal Aristocracy’s local enforcer. In Wisconsin, Scott Walker is the Neo-Liberal Aristocracy’s local enforcer.
This battle in Madison, Wisconsin, between the American people and the global financial elite, represents the opening salvo, the awakening of an American resistance movement and a sign of what’s to come.
I think a lot of it has to do with the States and Counties getting huge amounts of revenues from Property Taxes as Real Estate Prices rose. Now with Real Estate prices tanking the revenues are hugely reduced. State and County Governments became to rely on those taxes and now they are gone.
Another boom bust cycle from our Fed affecting our daily lives.
And, as federal cuts have steadily increased, the education costs have steadily been transferred to the property tax rolls.
The lowest common denominator....loss of property tax base. That extend and pretend by banks of all size is coming home to roost in 2011-2012. As the foreclosures have started to hit the last 90 days it has been eye opening. I personally watched the bottom drop out of values in my area. I can now throw stones from my home, to homes that have fallen in value 75%+ from the peek. And, you can not collect property tax revenue on a foreclosed home when no one is buying it.
We now read Banks are walking away in some regions of the country from foreclosed homes. Chris Whalen has outlined this many of times in his writings and speeches, and he is dead on.
I would love to be a fly on the wall at our local assessors office for the conversations going on now. Assessments to be released 2-1/2 months....tick tick tick. I have already talked to local officials, as have neighbors, after my prodding. We are already ready to challenge the assessments, as last years was not even close. Also, knowing full well it will be made up via increase in Mil rates.
So, the property owners get screwed again, as banks maybe walking away from property taxes, only to be made up by those who are maintaining their property. How many property owners in 2011 will be faced with the dilemma of falling into the red or even deeper. At what point does this not inspire more jingle mail, even from those who have a strong moral compass. How many will just throw in the towel?
In my state you can request an assessment hearing every year. You have to check the City or County website.
I got stuck for 3 years on a few propertys. One they raised the property taxes from $3,000. to $7,100. in three years. Now I got it back to $4,200. Not a victory but a help. Yet for 3 years I paid into the coffers a lot of money.
The biggest problem the City faced was that by raising Property Taxes so high it in effect lowered Property values by the same amout as the taxes. So, as property taxes went thru the roof the property values went down to compensate for the taxes. As the Taxes are calculated in Buyers monthlly payment as to what they can afford. So, fewer Buyers, lower prices.
Wait until the muni market caves. You will be taxed, but in a different way.
Federal cuts have steadily increased? In which universe?
You are correct - should have read "state."
It was the state aid I was referring to. K-12 and local college now make up 43% of our local property taxes, w/ the college levy increasing 31% in the past 6 years.
Whose real estate taxes have been reduced?? Not mine. In fact mine went up 8%, my health care went up 12%, and sales tax last year went from 5% to 6.25%. Now there is talk about a Federal value added tax. Fuck that. Sorry but bloated Govt. and excessive regulations have to get cut big time before I'll support any added taxes. I've been responsible, finished my last debt payment. I could have applied for unemployment but so far have not. Instead I'm working full time for paid health insurance and a few other small perks. Do I deserve to be forced to bail out the criminal or foolish? I don't think so!!!!
Yeah, but the people in Egypt are protesting so they can afford to eat and feed their children. The fucksters in Wisconsin are protesting so they can buy another flatscreen and keep up with the Joneses. Face it we are fucked. No politician has the balls to get up there and say,"This is it, we need to cut 20% of all budgets across the board." That's what we need to do. Even the 5% national sales tax would be fine with me, if it were in conjunction with the government cuts. Everybody needs to take a hit. We've lived high off the hog for too long. Junk away but you all know it's true. And I'm not referring to everyone, I know there are people that are hurting, but their not part of the unions in Wisconsin.
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