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Rosenberg Joins Chorus Of Those Accusing Bernanke Of Asset (Read Stock) Price Targeting

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Over the past 6 months, Zero Hedge has presented its extensive thoughts on QE 1.5, 2.0, and all the upcoming ones all the way through version infinity. Here are Rosenberg's.

U.S. FEDERAL RESERVE — QE2 THOUGHTS

There was nothing in the Fed press release yesterday that was really surprising. In fact, the market’s initial dramatic reaction (all over the map) was what’s most surprising. The Fed is going to be buying $600 billion of Treasuries (in the 5-10 year part of the curve) through mid-2011 and another $250-300 billion via coupon reinvestments, which they were going to do anyway.

The “number” that was key for the markets is that $600 billion figure, which is about $75 billion per month. That is in the middle of consensus expectations of $50-100 billion. Not “shock and awe”, based on what was broadly expected, but not “light” either considering that the economy, at least so far, has managed to avoid double-dipping.

For all the excitement, this further expansion of the Fed’s balance sheet will add between 0.25-0.5% to real GDP growth; however, this will take the size of the Fed’s balance sheet to a Japanese-style 20% of GDP!

What the Fed is clearly trying to do is reflate asset values in order to generate a more positive wealth effect on personal spending and pull the cost of debt and equity capital down in order to re-ignite business “animal spirits” and hence corporate investment and hiring. In a balance sheet or deleveraging cycle, success is not always guaranteed even by the most aggressive of monetary policies.

Through its actions, the Fed creates excess reserves in the banking system. But with one-third of the household sector gripped with a sub-620 FICO score, 1-in-7 mortgage debtors are either in arrears or in the foreclosure process, and with an estimated 25% of homeowners “upside down” in their mortgage (negative equity), there is at least some non-trivial probability that, as was the case with QE1, there will be no visible impact on the willingness to borrow, the money multiplier or velocity, which is what we would need to see to declare this radical policy experiment a success.

In a nutshell, with core price trends running below 1% and the economy past the peak of growth for the cycle, the Fed is not far off the mark in its deflationary concerns. The critical aggregate here is the unemployment rate — policy is aimed at redressing the glaring “gap” or chronic excess capacity in the labour market.

Go back two years ago when the Fed was on the brink of cutting the Fed funds rate to zero and the central bank was expecting to see, by now, a 7% unemployment rate. On the eve of QE1 in the opening months of 2009, the Fed’s base case was an 8% jobless rate by now. Instead, the jobless rate is sitting near 10% and only an atypically low participation rate has prevented the official unemployment rate from being higher than 12%. Moreover, counting in the vast degree of “under-employment”, the real unemployment rate is closer to 17%.

The one asset that has responded miserably to the Fed announcement is the long bond — it is getting clobbered, in part because the Fed bond buying is in the mid-part of the curve. Looking at the huge spread between 30-year bonds and the 5-year note, if inflation does not rear its ugly head, the best risk-reward is now really at the long end, which is universally despised and may be one reason to like it even more!

The U.S. dollar is on the verge of breaking down — the recent countertrend rally in the DXY may well be snuffed out quickly. The 50, 100, and 200-day moving averages in gold are all in major uptrends despite the corrective phase from overbought levels.

It’s difficult to see how equities can rally on this Fed move alone or the election results for that matter seeing as a GOP victory in the House and QE2 had both been widely discounted in recent months. There have been no surprises here over the past 24 hours. Just confirmations on what had already been priced in.

Meanwhile, risk assets from equities, to credit, to emerging markets have, in recent months, become correlated with a weaker U.S. dollar in an unprecedented fashion. A weaker dollar, in turn, fits in very well with Ben Bernanke’s reflationary strategy by cheapening exports and buying jobs from abroad, not to mention adding extra impetus to foreign-currency translated corporate earnings. The question is whether the dollar’s descent becomes destabilizing or what the responses to this overt weak dollar policy will be in other parts of the world. Currency wars tend to lead to trade wars and trade wars do not tend to end very well (gold being an exception).

  • The five million 99ers who are about to lose their jobless benefits (can even a lame duck Congress be that heartless?);
  • The looming tax hikes on January 1 if a GOP-White House deal isn’t brokered, and;
  • The bite into discretionary spending from the spike in food and energy prices — at exactly the most important shopping time of the year.

Look out for a big bite out of GDP from what will likely prove to be at least a sharp upward move in the price deflator (have a look at Food Sellers Grit Teeth, Raise Prices on page B1 of today’s WSJ as well as Apparel Makers To Lift Prices on page B2).

The equity market loves the liquidity boost but as I said, it is priced in. There are twice as many bulls as there are bears in the sentiment surveys and the stock market is trading near the top end of the 2010 range. Moreover, the two “critical” events that got Mr. Market all excited in the last two months are now yesterday’s news. The recent Barron’s Big Money Poll smacked of the complacency we saw in the fall of 2007 when nobody seemed to see a recession looming. Today, 4 in 5 surveyed in the Barron’s poll are dismissive of double-dip risks, perhaps prematurely. The mistake here may be in confusing derailment with delay.

MORE THOUGHTS ON QE2

The Fed, in some respect, did as little as possible yesterday. Not so much in size, though they could have done more on that score (equivalent to a rate cut of 50-75bps), but more in terms of where the central bank is focusing its bond buying activity. The bulk of the bond purchases are in the mid-part of the curve where yields are already 1%. What good is another handful of basis points decline really going to do for the economy at this part of the curve? Not much. Only 6% of the bond buying is in maturities of 10 years or longer and that is what matters most for the economy and that is the only part of the curve where there is any juice left, in terms of basis point yield impact.

It would be one thing if the Fed radically shifted its forecast, we could understand why the Fed did the least amount of easing possible under the situation of having boxed themselves in. Household spending is increasing, though “gradually”, and at the same time “constrained” by a variety of impediments. Housing is “depressed” and the recovery “continues to be slow”. Business spending is rising “less rapidly”, and nonresidential construction activity is deemed to be “weak”.

So while the Fed may not have downgraded its forecast, as it seemed to be thinking at the last meeting that the economy could be double dipping by now, the description of the economic backdrop in the press release was certainly one of a listless recovery at hand.

I can only surmise that the Fed had a view six-weeks ago that the economy would be contracting by now and it clearly isn’t. Or that Bernanke would have faced more dissents had he targeted the 10-year and above part of the Treasury curve, which would have been far more stimulative. It is truly hard to believe that targeting a part of the curve that is already yielding 1% is going to have much of a macro effect. And, much of what happened was already priced in. Perhaps the biggest news is that, as soft as it is, the U.S. economy is not falling apart at the seams and that seems to be all the equity market needs to see to grind higher. The two outcomes from yesterday that have some certainty attached to are: (i) the steeper Treasury yield curve, which along with a GOP controlled House, is positive for the financials that have been lagging, and; (ii) a further weakening of the U.S. dollar (good for anything negatively correlated with the greenback, from basic materials, to energy, to precious metals).

Bottom line: While the Fed could have done more yesterday, it didn’t because the economy is doing better than expected at this juncture, even if still quite fragile. Auto sales, for example, did rise to 12.3 million at an annual rate in October from 11.8 million in September (best result since August 2009). However, recall that motor vehicle sales also jumped 2.4% in September and all that translated into was a +0.08% inch-up in total real consumer spending, which was one of the weakest months of the year. Consumer spending excluding auto will now be key to watch.

I have to admit that the news out of MasterCard SpendingPulse is amazing considering what wage growth is doing (perhaps the stimulus from strategic mortgage defaults is at play here): “retail sales showed a noticeable improvement versus a year earlier, fueled by online sales and strong demand for luxury goods, jewelry and apparel” (see page A2 of the Investor’s Business Daily). And for Q4 GDP, the critical question will be real final sales growth and the extent to which net exports swing positively, if at all.

In the past, Bernanke discussed how useful the Fed’s communication skills can be in terms of being a policy tool. One of the reasons why the Fed did not have to resort to ‘shock and awe’ or target longer-term Treasuries is because all the talk since late August had already produced the desired results. This is what Bernanke had to say about it in today’s Washington Post:

“This approach eased financial conditions in the past and, so far, looks to be effective again. Stock prices rose and long-term interest rates fell when investors began to anticipate the most recent action. Easier financial conditions will promote economic growth. For example, lower mortgage rates will make housing more affordable and allow more homeowners to refinance. Lower corporate bond rates will encourage investment. And higher stock prices will boost consumer wealth and help increase confidence, which can also spur spending. Increased spending will lead to higher incomes and profits that, in a virtuous circle, will further support economic expansion.”

Notice how he mentioned the stock market twice — in just one paragraph. And, as the legendary Dennis Gartman emphasizes in his commentary today, what former Fed Governor Larry Meyer had to say yesterday on CNBC was very telling indeed (“What happens over time to the equity market”). Asset prices have always played a role in monetary policy and in the wealth effect on spending but never as much as is the case today. And, just by talking the talk for the past two months, the equity market has managed to rally 14% — creating $1.7 trillion of incremental “paper” wealth without having to lift a finger (yet). Poof! Yes indeed, for Dr. Bernanke, it is a case of the hand being quicker than the eye.

Finally, it seems that a new theme has emerged, which is that the risk-on/risk-off trade is taking its cue increasingly from the U.S. dollar. The correlations are high, intensifying and unprecedented.

  • Over the past six months, the inverse correlation between the trade-weighted dollar and the S&P 500 has risen to 80%; and to 90% in just the past two months.
  • The inverse correlation to emerging market equities is even stronger, at 90% in the past six months and 92% over the past two months.
  • The positive correlation with corporate spreads is now 70% on a six-month basis and 80% over the past two months.
  • There has always been a strong inverse correlation with the CRB index but that relationship has firmed dramatically to 90% in the last six-month and 95% in just the past two months.
  • Even with the VIX index, the positive correlation is now running at 80%.

In other words, all one needs to do today is follow the greenback to be a successful investor. Hard to believe it’s that easy, but this seems to be the environment that Ben Bernanke et al have managed to create in their quest to reflate the global economy.

 

 

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Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:37 | 699691 SheepDog-One
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'Accusations of price targeting'? I thought theyve admitted freely thats what theyre doing.

Forget all this stuff people, watch out for the false flag attack soon. All Im sayin, just watch out and dont have anything parked in markets youll never see it again.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:43 | 699710 functionform
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What are you talking about.  I'm tired of sound bite ZH chicken littles.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:50 | 699723 SheepDog-One
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'Chicken Little' therefore youre saying 'all is well'...ok good luck with that!

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:14 | 699812 WaterWings
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I hate disturbing the hens but the wolf isn't at the door - he's already inside. In every town across this nation. Heavily funded, and heavily armed - there is no question our border is wide open. Wonder what it will be like when the cartels are still funded and our local police force isn't. Americans will buy drugs until they are unavailable at any price.

11/4/2010 5:41:32 AM ET

 

ACAPULCO, Mexico — In another grisly turn in Mexico's drug war, police have recovered 18 bodies from a mass grave announced in a YouTube posting — a video saying the victims were from a tourist group kidnapped in Acapulco a month ago.

 

Mass killings have become more frequent amid raging, drug-fueled violence in Mexico. In the most horrifying attack, 72 migrants were massacred in northern Mexico near the border city of Matamoros in August, apparently because they refused to work for the Zetas drug gang.

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40002521/ns/world_news-americas

It's just surreal, ain't it!

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:45 | 699720 FEDbuster
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McDonald's "Dollar Menu" to be repriced to $1.50 per item.  Homeless bums enraged!

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/news/homeless-upset-about-mcdonalds-dollar-m...

Future headlines "Un-happy Meals now $10."  Soccer moms surround suburban McDonalds with mini vans and SUV's in protest of the new pricing!

 

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:54 | 699753 SheepDog-One
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Yep and $3 gas here today will soon be replaced by $7 gas before year end. Hey Im just recalling what Obama himself said a few months ago.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 14:32 | 700310 Cpl Hicks
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What was it The Won said about gas prices?

All I remember him talking about the past few months was who got to drive the car and who had to sit in the back seat with their Slurpees.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:04 | 699785 unwashedmass
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the only stocks not already pricing in Bennie's lunacy are the gold and silver stocks. Most are where they were when gold was 700

why is this happening?

uh, dunno....maybe we should ask JPM, and ask how they've also sat on the HUI for the past couple of years

anyone want some EXK? its about where it was when silver hit 9.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:41 | 699702 wiskeyrunner
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Dollar is not tanking today, just more tinkering I guess. I do like energy, but thats about it.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:44 | 699716 SheepDog-One
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'Dollar not tanking from 76.4 to 75.6'...ok...everyone keep chasing stocks higher you might even get lucky and match parity.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:47 | 699729 umop episdn
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"Not tanking?" OK, it is in decline, rolling over, etc, on the way to the choir invisible. Gold at 1380, silver at 25.60. Perhaps paper and ink prices will increase even faster than PMs.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:51 | 699743 SheepDog-One
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I guess thats the key play, buy ink and paper futures! Sure glad the US LOLar isnt tanking over or anything. Rolling over, falling, swooning etc are the correct terminology I guess.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:51 | 699936 MrSteve
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Expiring is spot on. The dollar is expiring so slowly that the public can't figure it out and the media can't report on such a slow process, even though its fatal to its viewers

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:43 | 699711 Chemba
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Bernanke admits freely and openly that he is targeting asset prices, so I don't really see the big deal of someone "accusing him" of doing what he openly admits to himself.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:44 | 699713 Turd Ferguson
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No shit they're steepening the curve.

They've only been able to perpetuate the myth of TBTF solvency by handing said banks free $ through the discount window to reinvest in treasuries. The flattening curve has wrought havoc on this trade and lessened its effectiveness.

HellyBenny buys 5-7 year and less maturities is a double win for the TBTFs. Clearly, its exactly what he's trying to do.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:44 | 699717 pat53
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DDDUUUHHH !!  LOL  Rosenberg is just figuring it out now that the FED has been targeting stock prices  !!! ?  What an idiot ! Needless to say, the rally in equities has NOT fully priced in QE2, if it had, we wouldn't be up 200 today. Wrong again Rosy !! Why does ANYONE listen to this moron, he has done nothing but make incorrect forecast for the markets for months now. Do the opposite of this fool and you'll make money !  LOL

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:47 | 699728 SheepDog-One
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And these are considered the 'SMART' people pat!  <:P

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:05 | 699786 All_Is_Well
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Nothing is "price in"! The fed is going to pump in 100 bil. a month, hell it's going to take a major act of congress to cut that much from discretionary spending for the year! 

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:07 | 699793 SheepDog-One
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Pumping 100 billion of what though, rapidly declining $US LOLars? OK we'll see how that ends.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:25 | 699864 All_Is_Well
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Totally agree. Goes to show what a joke and total disconnect from reality this is.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 17:25 | 701093 ElvisDog
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The purpose of the $100B a month is so Congress *doesn't* have to cut discretionary spending. The amount of QE2 over the next 8 months matches pretty closely the expected amount of deficit spending by the US.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:26 | 699868 Prof Gulliver
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Agreed. Rosie keeps predicting the collapse is imminent, and when the Fed blindsides him again, he then decides "the Fed is all in now" or "the Fed is out of bullets." Then when he's blindsided again, he snarkily critiques the move, because, you see, he'd be right if only the Fed didn't intervene. Rosie should stick to what he knows -- predicting the collapse of the Canadian housing market in 2009-2010 and the Candian economy with it. Oh, wait, that didn't happen either.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:46 | 699724 Fur Trader
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Hmmm, I could do this but maybe one of you (us) has it...

What does the DJX chart look like using Gold-as-money? i.e. inflation adjusted stocks vs their 'worth' in gold at spot.  Or am I wasting my time?  My weak thesis is stocks are experiencing inflation, not growth.  Therefore there must be better ways to hedge inflation other than equities (obviously).

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 15:29 | 700567 Minion
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Of course.  Commodities (DBA) and value retailers for do-it-yourselfers (AZO, AAP) are beating the index.  But for how long............?

I hate trading on blatent manipulation because it's obvious the punch bowl is spiked, yet the clock has no hands.  The door out is a very thin market that will shut down entirely if the herd panics.  The macro picture is painting a bleak picture, even though the micro picture is being used to justify dividend yields of around 2%.  It's clearly speculation that will eventually end when greater fools can not be found. 

Insiders are (still) going to cash:

http://finviz.com/insidertrading.ashx

Clearly the driving force behind the markets is not insiders or the public.  I wonder who is on the buy......... would you trust a bankster to take the other side of your trade when they already unloaded their 2% bag on you? 

:D

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:48 | 699730 UGrev
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Any one for dead parrots? because that's what this is.. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:49 | 699735 razorthin
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This coxxucker makes the arrogant assumption that there are many citizens left speculating in the stock market after the recent fed-inspired crash.  And should they want to, with who's freaking money?  What a miscreant.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:53 | 699749 SheepDog-One
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This idea that this insanity continues unabated for years is pure horseshit. Thats what theyd like everyone to believe, but someone (China) will step in and stop it. Thats what we'll see, an external force black swan, not internal.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:58 | 699763 UGrev
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I keep asking why China hasn't taken the hit and done it already. Is there an explanation for this from someone who comprehends that delicate situation better than I do?

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 13:04 | 699978 MrSteve
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China has seen a huge gain in the price of its US Treasury holdings, purchased when rates were higher. They sold a lot of them off in the past quarter, so they are probably still above water re: Treasuries. The cash flow from American consumers keeps China's investment and FX accounts going forward, until they don't. At that point, the PLA hopes to be able to run on the domestic demand in the Chinese slave labor economy.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 13:17 | 700020 UGrev
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so basically we're right in the middle of a cluster fuck as our demand drops and their labor starts to demand higher pay?

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:58 | 699764 Aunty Christ
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ZH Please stop sending Rosenberg articles. This assclown has been dead wrong for a long time. He belongs in the scrap heap along with Roubini, Whitney etal.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 13:36 | 700096 No Mas
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If your suggestion were followed, this site would increase its credibility.

Right now, the majority of consensus of this board, with the exception of gold and silver, has just been wrong.

Rosie is just one who seems to write what ZH'ers want to hear.  For that reason, I would guess he will remain a staple without regard to his predictive accuracy.  You know, preaching to the choir is a very easy and lucrative business. 

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:58 | 699766 SDRII
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Assuming monetary inflation can press assets higher and inspire virtual spiral is locked in "ice age" thinking that the US still owns the monopoly on consumption (oil). As the credit destruction decimates demand at the margin and presses down overvalued discretionary to include housing the inflating base money wil chase up at an accelerating rate nondiscretionary. Mako may be correct about the math which is likely why economists jettisoned the numbers in favor of behavior factors long ago  

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:59 | 699768 gerd
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of course it's asset price targeting.  if it's inflation that they wanted, all they'd have to do is go back to calculating it as they did before!  see shadowstats.com

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 11:59 | 699769 Printfaster
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Go ahead.  Please please tell me that the GM IPO will be a failure.

Robotrader?  Anyone?

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:10 | 699810 SheepDog-One
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Yes I guess the FED will buy all of GM IPO, wow thats going to be great. Soon the FED will own everything in the country, pleases reference France/England war and what Rothschild did there. Spread the rumor France had won, England markets crashed 95%, Rothschild bought everything...rumor reversed to England won and Rothschild owns England. 

Same deal here, just with HFT computers and a way stupider population.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 15:32 | 700580 Minion
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FED and their PD minions are going to buy everything.  That's how it works.  The object of the bankster game is for them to own everything at the end, with your very life at their mercy....

It's a game spread across generations.  Never trust a serpent when he speaks soothing words.  He's a liar and a thief, and will prey on your innate human desire to trust, and think everything is going to be OK.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:00 | 699771 goldmiddelfinger
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The insanity will end next week, it's no coincidence that Obama's going to India with all the government and 34 warships while the G-20 meets in Seoul.

http://reddragonleo.com/ArgusoogRadio-20101029-TheWatermanFiles.mp3
Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:11 | 699815 SheepDog-One
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I think youre right, something big comin and it all changes in a few days, not month after month monetizing. Somethin big is on deck.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:01 | 699772 Groty
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"The more the plans fail, the more the planners plan." -- Ronald Reagan

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:06 | 699791 stumped
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How to stimulate the economy the easy way: take that $750 billion and divide it equally between everyone with a social security number. Instant stimulus. The Nobel prize committee can send my check now.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:30 | 699877 gerd
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what's that, $2,500 each?!

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 15:37 | 700602 Minion
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FED banksters want inflation, but inflation is not about prices, it is about control.  This is how the game works:  they get the money first.  Then you have to buy the commodities they acquired as they ring the cash register.  Kachingo.  You lose.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:07 | 699794 Prof Gulliver
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Job 1 for the Fed is not jobs. Job 1 is getting stock prices higher for their Wall Street patrons. There is no Job 2. How has this ever been different in the history of this elitist organization?

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:08 | 699800 dcb
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Rosenberg doesn't want to talk the dirty secret. the thing that has to be asked is who will this help the big financials, their future potential suits, etc.

remember the gaol of the fed is to cover for the baks so they can earn their way out of this. does this mena they now borrow from the fed, buy the long bond and earn record spreads to increase profits.

I don't know, but what I do know is that despite of all the fed says it is always about bailing out the banks and nothing more. so figure out this and you have the reason.

they ask the pomo how big the QE needs to be. this is because they know they actually size of the hole in their balance sheets based on real market values. So the fed then gives them what they need. simple as that.

 

 

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:23 | 699803 Caviar Emptor
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And now you're all going to witness a nation in the vice grip of biflation. 

It's the Fed's nightmare, the black swan that they never expected because it doesn't even exist in their textbooks. And the politicians don't get it for sh*t sure. 

In fact QE2 couldn't have set up the situation more perfectly: not only will they get their wet dream of paper-asset inflation (stocks, bonds and commodities), but they've just locked in the ultimate deflation too! Watch in shock and awe as capital goes flying off to foreign nations in search of anything not nailed down: currencies, sovereign bonds, corporate debt, stocks, villas, condos, farm land, arable land, food stores, supermarkets, undeveloped real estate, oil wells, gold mines, rare earth pits, sweat shops, high tech start ups, and any kind of hard asset.

They'll be chartering C-130s to carry all the cash overseas. 

And along with the capital, jobs. Offshoring of the US economy will continue and amplify. Undeterred. 

And so that sets up the ultimate biflationary grip here in the US: surging cost inputs with deflating demand. 

For businesses this means eroding margins (happening already). Only way for corporations to weather the storm is to shift focus overseas. 

For individuals that means more declining incomes, net worth, job and advancement opportunities and real estate values in the context of rising cost of living. No wealth effect. Just constrained consumers unable to support a rise in net demand. 

Add in a Congress hellbent on "austerity" and we're going Bi, big time! 

Only PMs can shelter your net worth, savings, and wealth. I advise everyone to take their tax cut checks and run...don't walk...to stick it in Gold and Silver before it evaporates.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:55 | 699953 Chito Campo
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+1

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:11 | 699808 WaterWings
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Until death do us part.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:15 | 699830 john_connor
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People buy stuff because 1) they have a job and are confident in that source of income moving forward and 2) they have access to credit.

The wealth effect is a joke, and doesn't apply to 95% or more of the population.

Meanwhile input costs will rise and further shrink profits everywhere.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:29 | 699874 jtmo3
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All this talk and speculation is nice. We pretty much have a good idea what he's doing and why. The big question is...how the hell do they unwind all this? There is no freakin way. When that day comes, I'm hiding.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 13:34 | 700084 SheepDog-One
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How will they unwind it all? By doing what all this is designed to do, 1 world govt and 1 world currency.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 15:43 | 700636 Minion
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Either that or mass death and a new dark age.  The fourth turning?  Useless eaters running out of food?  Hordes of chaos?  Descent into anarchy and rule by gangsters?  Oh wait......

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:47 | 699928 TooBearish
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The time to get cautious is when the perma bears throw in the towel....meanwhile buy buy buy

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 12:58 | 699935 Idiot Savant
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The five million 99ers who are about to lose their jobless benefits (can even a lame duck Congress be that heartless?);

Heartless? I'm sorry, but after 99 weeks it's not unemployment, it's welfare. Let's call a spade a spade.

 

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 13:35 | 700089 SheepDog-One
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True, lets call a spade what it is and admit its not extended unemployment benefits, its full welfare in a jobless nation.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 13:36 | 700090 tahoebumsmith
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QE2.. Just another backdoor bailout for the banks. How does it help the average guy on Main St? This whole circle jerk they are performing does NOTHING to help those that are suffering the most.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 13:51 | 700147 Terra-Firma
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QE2 is like engine oil to a car that burns oil; at some point you fix the engine; you don't buy cases of motor oil.

 

On another note, I was in Greece this past summer. Greece is a welfare state living on the surplus of productive countries like Germany and to a lesser extent France. This is what stood out for me

1. There was a property bubble as evidenced by many unfinished abandoned projects.

2. The country had modernized itself in a big way over the last 20 years.

3. There is virtually no "public" investments that add value to private sector efforts. The rail system is grotesque, roads are in awful shape, public transit is almost non-existent.

4. There are more banks then Seattle has coffee shops. This suggests there is private wealth; or at least cash; cash derived from not contributing to the "public" i.e., paying taxes.

5. Expensive vehicle brands like BMW, Audi Aston martin, Lexus, porsche were abundant. Noticeably so.

6. Little export production. I was at the second largest port in Greece and I did not see any export activity at all except for tourists leaving.

7. Comparatively high cost (in Euros) compared to other European countries for the same goods and services.

8. A thriving black market for anything you want.

9. Non-existent police and emergency services.

In conclusion, I get the sense Greek's  know they are living on borrowed time and money and are desperately trying to line their pockets while it lasts; hence all the banks. Greeks are pragmatic and very skeptical of government so they don't trust anyone but themselves. Hence, Greek's are quick to internalize any gains because they don't know when the tide will change.

In the late 1980s and early 1990's I lived and worked with people originally from communist countries and they described in painful detail what their lives were like then. Their words echo in my ears now because what I see happening in Greece and increasingly the US today mirrors what they said happened with communism.  They said anything public or state owned was stolen with little regard for the political or economic ramifications because a bribe is all it took to get off the hook. So this is the take home message Greece and Mr. Ben Bernanke offer. What is public can be stolen or abused (currency devaluation); what is private can be banked away (mortage fraud); and, look for a rich sugar daddy that can print money at will (Bernanke, Germany).

As a foot note, I think there is a ton of many to be made in Greece running banks into the ground like was done during the S&L debacle in the US. With so much private wealth in banks they are great targets for white collar crime. Ben where are you. We have a job for you.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 15:46 | 700655 Minion
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Sounds similar to California, and other bubble states (Arizona, Nevada).  I don't know where all these clerical workers get the money for fresh cars every few years.  I'm still rolling in my 23 year old RX7 (without the rotary POS under the hood, lol)

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 13:53 | 700168 Djirk
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Isn't the FED a private entity? Isn't market manipulation and not giving equal information flow illegal?

Spitzer or some young politician wanting to make a score? Sue the FED!

 

 

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 14:45 | 700359 Cpl Hicks
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Uh, the last time Spitzer went out to make a score he lost his wife and his gov gig.

Let Eric Holder take a shot at this. If he can tear himself away from his single-minded prosecution of the War on Terror, that is.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 14:29 | 700302 Spigot
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So, when is the RICO class action suit filed against Bennie and the FEDs??

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 14:42 | 700342 Cpl Hicks
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The five million 99ers who are about to lose their jobless benefits (can even a lame duck Congress be that heartless?)

Hoo, boy, that's lol funny!

One of my sons friends (mid-30s Gen-Xers) got laid off Sept of 2008. Kicked back and got his 99 weeks, thank you very much. Spent lots of time at his favorite tavern; did a little late-night bouncer duty for extra beers.

Oh, it's over? He went out and found another job a couple of weeks ago.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 20:08 | 701473 honestann
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Exactly.  And quite typical.  And yet, so many disingenuous liars in government claim "policy serves people" rather than "people react to policy".  While nobody can deny that some of both exist, the second is primary and continues to become more dominant as more people decide to "take advantage of the system" rather than "make life work".

Unemployment, if it exists at all, should max out at [less than] 99 days, not 99+ weeks.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 15:23 | 700540 Temporalist
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Rosenberg and Ryding were just on Bloomberg basically agreeing on Bernanke's Titanic2.

Ryding pointed out that there is global inflation and the U.S. is alone in its monetizing against all other CBs.

Fri, 11/05/2010 - 00:47 | 701947 jailnotbail
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remember the gaol of the fed is to cover for the baks so they can earn their way out of this. does this mena they now borrow from the fed, buy the long bond and earn record spreads to increase profits.

I don't know, but what I do know is that despite of all the fed says it is always about bailing out the banks and nothing more. so figure out this and you have the reason.

they ask the pomo how big the QE needs to be. this is because they know they actually size of the hole in their balance sheets based on real market values. So the fed then gives them what they need. simple as that.

I was beginning to think I was the only one who could see that, and that there must be something the finance guys were aware of that was going right over my head.

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