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Rosenberg's Takeaways From Bernanke's Speech: "Cause For Pause"

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Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:20 | 1350984 FOC 1183
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Jamie's monolog detour was so rhetorical I almost expected Bernanke to move on to the next question

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:31 | 1351005 Temporalist
Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:42 | 1351341 Problem Is
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"Oh, woh, woh, Jamie's cryin'..."

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:22 | 1351257 Arrowflinger
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There was another take to be had in Dimon's recitation of all of the fraudulent financial contrivances now banned, dead, or producing entity-threatening losses.

If FIRE became an unsustainable 40% of markets and 20% of the economy, doesn't his admission that the engines of this ascendancy are now blown translate into that the reversion to mean will require 50% of banks to go away?

JPM only exists because of trading profits from getting free Fed money and buying $UST's  and commodities. Even those are not going to outrun costs and shrinking banking revenues.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:29 | 1351291 gabeh73
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I made this video to explain why the economy is tanking and what will be required to get QE3

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 16:55 | 1352403 Chuck Walla
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I tend to agree with you. I think its let us suffer, then Braack can come to the rescue. But this is all about timing. No way Big O can get re-elected if this goes on into 2012.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:21 | 1350987 Ray1968
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Why isn't Jamie Dimon in jail???

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:36 | 1351057 schoolsout
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Jamie Dimon Becomes Wall Street’s Hero Figure
Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:58 | 1351142 SRV - ES339
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Weiner's career is over for texting some lewd pics, and this sorry excuse for a human being is whining about regulation (after he and his buddies blow up the world economy) while his income skyrockets to $50M a year!

Jail(?)... screw that! When does congress pass the justifiable homicide waiver for bank CEOs?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:22 | 1350990 hotkarlandthecl...
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Rosie was bearish at 700 on the S&P went bullish at 1360...this guy is the ultimate contrarian.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:39 | 1351054 Gubbmint Cheese
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cherry picking stats here a bit.. Rosie was bearish at about 1,200 (before the top) and continues to be bearish. A few weeks ago he acknowledged that the market could go higher because of technicals.

I too am bearish - but I accept the market 'could go higher' before it ultimately blows up.

there is a big difference between that, and being 'bullish'

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:40 | 1351076 ihedgemyhedges
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Don't forget Bill Gross.  Shorted treasuries 50 bps ago and said go long equities at same time............

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:24 | 1350996 snowball777
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Growth: Sub-2% H1, Sub-1% H2.

Job counts mean squat: aggregate income is the only meaningful metric for labor recovery.

3. The "just the tip" method of fiscal reform.

5. Yes, yield will be nailed to the floor for years.

Who's gonna ride, bitchez?


Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:30 | 1351002 Cdad
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(excluding the highly irrelevant Jamie Dimon monolog detour: we can't wait to hear what the JPM CEO once it is announced that Glass-Steagall is being renstated)

What, does anyone really doubt: 1. the power of J. Dimon whining?  2.  the fact that over regulation is the true source of criminal syndicate Wall Street banker problems?

/sarc off

Anyway, isn't it high time that J. Dimon considers spending more time with family?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:36 | 1351052 JohnG
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By "family," do you mean worms?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:42 | 1351089 Cdad
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We all know that bankers have been working very hard on the wealth effect...which has bankrupting all of us.  And I am sure the wife and kids would benefit, as would a grateful nation, if J. Dimon would simply decide to, at least, take the summer doldrums off.

That is what I mean.


Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:48 | 1351121 JohnG
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OK.  He should just retire and die imho.

Worm food.

Also, there is no better fertilizer than composted manure.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:28 | 1351012 inkarri9
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I found it a bit comical that it was Jamie D. who said something along the lines of "the bad mortgage guys are gone" in his speech but yet isn't he one of the bad mortgage guys?  


Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:34 | 1351014 TaxSlave
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"Cause for pause."


Yet there will be no pause.

You are owned by this faux debt, they will see you killed before they allow you to repudiate it.


Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:34 | 1351020 Hedgetard55
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Rosie still bullish?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:31 | 1351025 zen0
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It is not surprising that Bernanke focuses on employment. This was the whole purpose of the Keyne's General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money.


Also, as Keynes notes from the Preface to the German edition:


Nevertheless the theory of output as a whole, which is what the following book purports to provide, is much more easily adapted to the conditions of a totalitarian state, than is the theory of the production and distribution of a given output produced under conditions of free competition and a large measure of laissez-faire .

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:35 | 1351051 SheepDog-One
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Hard to have employment grow when youve sold all your production overseas and the nations #1 employer is Walmart, #2 employer apparently McDonalds.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:59 | 1351148 Cleanclog
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Yep.  Disney is cutting jobs now.  All the fantasy and magical thinking is on Wall Street, not Main Street, Fantasyland nor the Magical Kingdom.  The Happiest Place on Earth is no longer the Disney Parks but the banking basements.  Sigh.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:36 | 1351034 MarketTruth
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So if growth is 2.5% yet REAL inflation is 6% that means....

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:48 | 1351117 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Exactly, we are going backwards in real terms and nobody except intelligent people ever mention that fact.  Good job!


Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:34 | 1351298 NotApplicable
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2.5 steps forward and 6 steps back?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:33 | 1351036 AldoHux_IV
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Inflation-phobes or people just concerned about currency destruction in a time of depression?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:37 | 1351039 Quinvarius
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I have yet to see anyone bullish after Bernanke's comments, even though I heard QE and low rates forever.  I don't like stocks.  But I must now conclude they are due for a big rally.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:38 | 1351067 Boston
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Um, what did the markets do IMMEDIATELY after Bernanke's Jackson Hole speech in late August of last year?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:01 | 1351153 Quinvarius
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Bernanke started his speech at 3:45pm.  He announced continued QE 25 minutes and 40 seconds into that speech.  The fact that GS sent out multiple comments insinuating we are all doomed should have been a big tip off as to the reality of the situation.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:37 | 1351068 SheepDog-One
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Really, well lets hear your opinion on how they plan on providing a QE that would fool anyone. What, they just print totaly imaginary money out of thin air? Its not 2008 anymore, thats not fooling anyone so how do you see a QE playing out?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:57 | 1351136 Quinvarius
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Bernanke announced exactly the QE I was expecting.  Reinvestment of payments on existing balance sheet items and low rates.  I don't understand why everyone is in such denial.  It is like a mass psychosis.  And when I see that, I know a lot of people are wrong.  Reinvesting interest and principal on 2.5 trillion dollars is a lot of QE.  It is just an accounting gimmick to say it is all rollover.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:03 | 1351178 SheepDog-One
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Theyre gonna roll it over, re-invest the interest? Ok well who is that supposed to impress? And who's paying interest? Certainly not Mr Market Frankenstein monster with his $8 billion daily crank habit.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:37 | 1351309 gabeh73
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All the mainstream academics already support QE3. Sumner, Tyler Cowen, Paul Krugman: Now they just need to brow beat the tea partiers as the markets crash and the path will be cleared to renew the pruchases of US government bonds.


Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:37 | 1351040 SheepDog-One
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Now that they have Mr Frankenstein Market hooked on a $7 billion per day crank habit, lets pause giving it to him and see what happens. This should be great fun to watch as Mr Market doesnt get his daily fix and goes on a murderous rampage thru the Wall St village.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:07 | 1351181 Franken_Stein
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Frankenstein Market - I like that term.

Bernanke is assembling his monetary monsters in the cellars of Marriner Eccles building, to be unleashed on the American public at the next FOMC meeting.


Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:35 | 1351048 TooBearish
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Have a salad Rosie and take a seat- lay off the eggs when u having "breakfast with Rosie"

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:40 | 1351077 spartan117
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Cause for pause?

I'll believe it when I see it.  Who's going to buy all those treasurys needed to pay for deficit spending?  Federal government going to cut 1.5 trillion from the annual budget starting July 2011?  Bring it.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:46 | 1351092 Juice Box
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I read his "Breakfast with Dave" report every morning, and he always has great tidbits of info, but the guy has been way off on the market for a while.  After being a Bear for two years, he just went bullish one month ago - great timing.

He is better at bonds. 

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:08 | 1351197 Johnny Lawrence
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He didn't go bullish.  I wish people will read the full context.  He said that technically the market looked like it would go higher.  It wasn't a change in his fundamental outlook.

But I agree that he's missed the runup in equities over the last couple years, but he did call the 2008 crash and he's been hyping gold for at least the past 5-6 years.

If anything, I give him credit for speaking the truth about the economy despite being one of the most well-know economists on the street.  He doesn't cheerlead like everyone else.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:40 | 1351556 hbjork1
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And it is one thing to be commenting on the market and another to be predicting FED pumping.  FED action probably has created much of the bull run.


Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:47 | 1351110 SheepDog-One
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'This recovery cannot be regarded as being 'truly established'...LULZ yea real unemployment 25% at least, record high bankruptcies, worst housing market ever, 50 million americans only eat and live due to food stamps and 99 weeks of free govt checks, and the only economic activity is totaly synthetic 100% dependant on ZIRP free money flow from FED to banks to stocks to bonds.

#1 employer is Walmart, #2 employer apparently McDonalds, and Bernank dances on the head of a pin saying 'Welllll 'the recovery' is a bit short of being totaly confirmed right now'. Totaly tragicomedy is what it really is. And a stupid dumbed down general public to boot.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:06 | 1351175 bubba1231
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The banks - especially JPM DID NOT cause the meltdown.  You want a culprit?  Look in the mirror.  The average American caused the meltdown as much as anyone buying into the real estate hype.  Throw in Barney Frank and others and there are your culprits.  The banks were just intermediaries...

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:08 | 1351188 Franken_Stein
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... but also main beneficiaries.

Don't let them off the hook here.


Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:01 | 1351386 Problem Is
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"The banks - especially JPM DID NOT cause the meltdown."

Who are you? A sock puppet for Jamie & Lloyd?
The Wall Street TBTF derivative whores CAUSED the financial collapse...

Then used their bought, bribed and owned political useful idiots to bail out their loses with $$$Trillions in tax payer money and debt continuing to this very day...

Wall Street TBTFs looted Fannie and Freddie (a bad idea, agreed), for mega tax payer loses, legislated  by Wall Street political whores like Frank, Shelby, Dodd and of course Obama Bin Lyin'...

Wall Street caused the crash... Wall Street needs to pay... Jail time for Jamie & Lloyd, Amerika's Shoe Shine Boys...

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 14:03 | 1351657 JW n FL
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by bubba1231
on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:06




The banks - especially JPM DID NOT cause the meltdown.  You want a culprit?  Look in the mirror.  The average American caused the meltdown as much as anyone buying into the real estate hype.  Throw in Barney Frank and others and there are your culprits.  The banks were just intermediaries...



Pay Attention stupid.


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The Lobby Owns the Government!


Law Enforcement works for the Duly Elected Lobby Whores!


We the People = Screwed!


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there is no difference between a republican and democrat.. other than what they say on T.V. for you to listen too.. the dog and pony show is nothing more than a show.. to keep people like you transfixed on singular thoughts that have nothing to do with the river of money that they all drink from.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 14:28 | 1351743 Problem Is
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+5... Accurate analysis...

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:04 | 1351186 Cone of Uncertainty
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Jamie Dimon is a little cunt, fuck him.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:10 | 1351193 Franken_Stein
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Asscunt, to be precise.

Btw, some days ago was 30th anniversary of the first HIV case in the U.S. .


Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:08 | 1351199 Franken_Stein
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Does anybody still remember the 1907 collapse of the Knickerbocker Trust fund ?

It was horrible to say the least.


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