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Rumors Of The Dollar's Demise Have Not Been Greatly Exaggerated

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As the trading day rolls to a close, the trade once again is sell dollars, buy everything else. It is no surprise that stocks are trading where they are courtesy of an insane printing press operator and it being the third lowest volume day of the year, but now the buying spree has shifted into 10 Year US Treasuries as well. Nothing can stop the systemic annihilation of the dollar at this point absent a major exogenous event, or constipated European bureaucrats saying enough before one Euro can buy a few hundred million portraits of George Washington.

In the meantime, is anyone trading at all anymore?




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Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:59 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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Stock market crash might save lol-dollar for a little while

Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:04 | Link to Comment deadhead
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+1

sooner or later they are going to have to do it or it will be done for them.

great Week in PM article today, PM.  I thoroughly enjoy it.

food for thought for the next one....look at Einhorn's speech today (marketwatch had it) about currency crisis.....perhaps we get another asian contagion out of the land of the setting sun???

Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:28 | Link to Comment AN0NYM0US
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:02 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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thought about buying spy odd lot but was frontrun by jpm.......

Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:04 | Link to Comment deadhead
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that was great!

Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:04 | Link to Comment chet
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All my positions are up!  I'm an investing genius!  I'm going to borrow on my credit cards and buy anything that moves!

On a serious note, I think they will have to try a save on the dollar eventually.  But only when we're truly at the precipice.  So is that 72?  Dunno.

As PM says, they'll crash the market.  Maybe try to reflate yet again after that.

Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:16 | Link to Comment jm
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Can't save the dollar and keep interest rates next to nothing. 

They defend the dollar and the whole thing goes up in flames.

The dollar is expendable.

 

Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:04 | Link to Comment mdtrader
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Look at all these rumors surrounding me every day.

 

Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:32 | Link to Comment Lycurgus
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There is still no real alternative to the dollar at this stage of the game. 

The dollar will soon rally (next 1-2 months) causing a halt to the equities climb.

Tue, 10/20/2009 - 08:13 | Link to Comment Chumly
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causing a 38.2% retracement or something like that, I'm sure.

Mon, 10/19/2009 - 17:03 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 17:07 | Link to Comment Mark Beck
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I guess I would ask what actions are the FED taking to protect the dollar?

Fed funds rate increase? No

Tightening on any outstanding securities? No

Discontinuing to buy long term Treasuries? OK for now. But the QE damage is done.

Discontinuing to buy MBSs, No

It seems to me that the FED is interested in a program of real estate debt deleverage, and in general, banking debt relief, in an attempt to reverse the fall in housing price. Unless this asset class shows a marked imporvement in price, relative to the debt exposure, the FED cannot prevail without risking a currency crisis.

Another question I have been trying to answer is what does the FED do with the interest income from is huge MBS portfolio. My assumption is that the MBS is structured much like an CDO.

So what happens to the interest?

Mon, 10/19/2009 - 19:04 | Link to Comment ozziindaus
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Any prevailing interest is most likely being offset by more defaults. Add to that the sinking MBS value due to diving home prices, iliquid market for Toxic assets, a tighening housing market and an overabundence of vacant homes, the FED can do nothing but sit on this steaming POS. Debasing dollars to reinflate the housing bubble sounds extreme.

Mon, 10/19/2009 - 17:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 10/19/2009 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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The words "third lowest volume day of the year" speaks volumes, pun intended.

Mon, 10/19/2009 - 20:05 | Link to Comment peterr (not verified)
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 21:31 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Tue, 10/20/2009 - 08:23 | Link to Comment Emmanuel Goldstein
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Yeah, rising up to $2 a pound again,

Mon, 10/19/2009 - 23:47 | Link to Comment Stuart
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It's all about confidence and Uncle Sam is flat freakin' broke and the whole world knows it.  What is it about that, that people don't get when they wonder why the dollar is falling.   Rates have to rise, but if they do, now that Uncle Sam has even more debt, it would hasten the suicide.  Would you loan money to your neighbour if you knew there was a fat chance in hell of ever getting paid back?   I sure wouldn't.   

Tue, 10/20/2009 - 06:12 | Link to Comment estaog
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Does anyone have that quote from GW Bush after 911 when he told people the solution was to get out their credit cards and spend money? Something about being able to solve the US's problems through consumption. Hmmm I can't find it now.

Tue, 10/20/2009 - 06:30 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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this is what he said ( not a word about " go out and spend " directly, but the message is the same )

"Get down to Disney World in Florida, take your families and enjoy life, the way we want it to be enjoyed." 

Tue, 10/20/2009 - 11:58 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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I can't find the direct quotes but he also said that the "terrorists want to destroy our way of life" and then went on to describe our way of life as basically consumption, though he didn't use those exact words.

At some point, either when he spoke or later, I definitely remember him saying something along the lines of "so get out and visit the mall, take that vacation" etc.

 

Tue, 10/20/2009 - 12:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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