Run-Rated Fukushima Radiation Release On Par With, And In Some Cases Greater Than, Chernobyl

Tyler Durden's picture

Even as the spin continues by both the media and nuclear energy advocates that the dangers from Fukushima are overblown, calculations done behind the scenes indicate that Fukushima and Chernobyl are actually very comparable in terms of radioactive particulate release, and in some cases, such as Cesium 137, Fukushima is already runrating as a worse catastrophe than Chernobyl. From Reuters: "The release of two types of radioactive
particles in the first 3-4 days of Japan's nuclear crisis is estimated
to have reached 20-50 percent of the amounts from Chernobyl in 10 days,

an Austrian expert said on Wednesday. Based on measurements made at monitoring
stations in Japan and the United States, Wotawa said the iodine released
from Fukushima in the first three-four days was about 20 percent of
that released from Chernobyl during a ten-day period. For Caesium-137, the figure could amount to some 50 percent." In other words, run rating the release of Cesium for a 10 day period, leaked radioactive Cesium is now about 120-150% of what it was during the full blow reactor explosion experiencing during Chernobyl. But yes, aside from the facts, watering the reactor that are certainly melting down (if haven't done so already) should surely have great benefits.

More from Reuters:

The calculations published by Austria's Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics may add to growing concern in Japan and elsewhere over the contamination of food products such as milk and vegetables in areas near the Japanese reactor site.

The Austrian institute's Dr Gerhard Wotawa stressed the two isotopes from Fukushima he had sought to estimate -- iodine-131 and caesium-137 -- normally make up only one tenth of total radiation.

Based on measurements made at monitoring stations in Japan and the United States, Wotawa said the iodine released from Fukushima in the first three-four days was about 20 percent of that released from Chernobyl during a ten-day period.

For Caesium-137, the figure could amount to some 50 percent.

The International Atomic Energy Agency said on Wednesday Japanese authorities had told the Vienna-based agency that radiation dose rates at the plant were decreasing, although the overall situation remained serious.

One U.N. study has estimated Chernobyl, in Ukraine, may over time cause 4,000 to 9,000 extra deaths from cancer.

And there are big differences in the handling of the crises.

"At Chernobyl, the population was not generally aware that the accident had happened," said Malcolm Crick, Secretary of the U.N. Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation.

"People in the nearby town of Pripyat were watching the fire from just a kilometre or so away. They were evacuated a day or so later," he said, adding that children kept drinking milk despite risks of contamination.

"In Japan, there was a precautionary evacuation early on," he said, adding "it's too early to make a real assessment of the overall impact."

Japanese authorities also distributed units of stable iodine which can help protect against radioactive iodine.

Unfortunately following today's news that radiation was once again surging to record highs, any temporary lull factored into models should be propmtly discarded. It also begs the question: how soon until the first indications of radiation poisoning start appearing. Somehow we are confident we will not find out until years from now when all the truth surrounding this incident is finally declassified.

 

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quasimodo's picture

Rudolph with your nose(s) so bright...

DoChenRollingBearing's picture

10 more days and I join most of you back up in the in the N. hemisphere.

Hey, yo, Japan!  See if you can fix things up in the next week or so.  I would appreciate it!

TuesdayBen's picture

which way does the toidy water spin down there?

DoChenRollingBearing's picture

I´ll try to remember to watch when I flush my next dump.

Thomas's picture

"concern in Japan and elsewhere over the contamination of food products such as milk and vegetables in areas near the Japanese reactor site."

You mean, like, Asia?

Landrew's picture

Sorry about cutting in here at the top. I again want to thank you all of getting my video out there. I thought you might like to see part of your efforts have resulted in an article being written in Argentina!

http://www.cukmi.com/como-hacer-un-detector-casero-de-radiactividad-con-bananas-y-una-camara-de-fotos/

TruthInSunshine's picture

Only an hour until U.S. markets close. Maybe they'll do another 4:15 pm or 5:30 p.m. bad news reality dump, just to, you know, keep people up to date (and to give TEPCO enough time to propagandize that another fix is imminent before market open tomorrow).

In the meantime, a Japanese newspaper, the Yomiuri Shinbun, reports:

Yomiuri Shinbun 1:21AM JST 3/24/2011

Asked about the damage to the Reactors at Fukushima I Plant, the chairman said, "the fuel rods in the Reactor No.1 are assumed to have melted to a significant degree. Compared to the Reactors No.2 and 3, the situation in the Reactor No.1 is the most severe." The temperature and the pressure of the reactor core continue to rise abnormally, and the situation is getting very dangerous. He disclosed "We are considering releasing the valve to let the steam out of the Reactor Pressure Vessel in order to prevent the destruction."

ZerOhead's picture

I heard he just sold his mansion in Tokyo. Sale closes tomorrow.

Looks like a lot of people are leaving... something about Fubarshima Springs becoming the official water supplier to the city.

Austria...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/austria-moves-embassy-tokyo-osaka-over-nuclear-concerns-20110315-062604-948.html

Bulgaria...

http://sofiaecho.com/2011/03/22/1063494_bulgaria-moves-embassy-from-tokyo-to-fukuoka

Germany...

http://www.thedaily-blitz.com/home/germany-moves-embassy-from-tokyo-to-osaka-1040315/

Oh crap... everyone is moving.

Finland... Switzerland... Norway... Nepal... Bangladesh...

 

Going to be a whole lotta people looking real silly when this entire radiation cloud dealio blows over just like TPTB claim... right?

Herman Strandschnecke's picture

Any Emperor worth his emperorworthiness would find London fit for a Queen. Just sayin.

jeff montanye's picture

regarding tokyo real estate:  at the top in 1989 just the land of the imperial palace grounds was worth more than the entire state of california, or so it was said.  certainly in the twenty two years since, prices have come down.  i'm thinking in a couple of years we may actually see a bottom there since markets can appropriately discount the thirty year half life of cesium 137.  

jus_lite_reading's picture

Did Chernobyl have a F*CKING NEUTRON BEAM SHOOTING OUT RADIOACTIVE PARTICLES?!

http://fiatsfire.blogspot.com/2011/03/healthy-smoke-healthy-water-egypti...

TEPCO even said so!!

ColonelCooper's picture

Yes.  It would be the one that Tyler told us about five hours ago.

ZerOhead's picture

Neutron beams emitting from plants.

Neutron beans emerging from plants.

Welcome to the new Japanese Prefecture of Fubarshima.

Commander Cody's picture

This could (and probably does) mean that fuel in the reactor and/or the spent fuel pool has gone critical (self-sustaining chain reaction - not good).

Cursive's picture

This is like soveriegn currency, right? Adjusted for constsnt dollars, the chernobyl radioactive elements are, like, 4 times greater than the Fukushima radioactive elements.

trav7777's picture

Yes.  Chernobyl was an ongoing fission reaction combined with a fire.

People who stood and looked at that reactor from 1km away received a lethal dose.  I hear it was quite pretty.

Gunther's picture

Reporting is strange here; to compare the emissions absolute numbers or flow rates would make sense. For example: In the Chernobyl accident x kg of radioactive iodine were released. In Fukushima for now y kg were released.

Alternatively, an average stream of x kg/hour was released in Chernobyl and in Fukushima y kg/hour is released.

edit:

compare reporting to this one from Jesses Cafe Americain:

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2011/03/fukushima-radioactive-f...

alien-IQ's picture

Glowing green shoots. Rally on...nothing to see here.

Dr. Richard Head's picture

Looks like a new correlation to trade under; radiation up - dow up.  Trade away and Buy that fucking dip.

Judge Judy Scheinlok's picture

Where's Math Man? Wonder what he thinks?

asdasmos's picture

Indeed, Math Man can you please help with this one?

Dr. Acula's picture

Stop worrying. Planet Earth is already full of Caesium-137.

It costs like $5 to dig that shit out of the ground.

Bicycle Repairman's picture

Surely Trav7777 can straighten us all out?

Temporis's picture

You notice how him and Harry Wangfukbag never post here any more...

It must suck to be continuously wrong.

Reptil's picture

Dunno, I don't suck, usually. ;-)

Then again, perhaps when someone pays enough?

Caviar Emptor's picture

This is a bullish wall of worry: the higher the radioactive particle level, the higher the stock market. 

bob_dabolina's picture

This is going to worse for another reason seldom mentioned.

The Russians had some balls and got that situation under control/cleaned up very quickly.

The Japanese are bunch of pussies that seemingly have no idea what's going on. It's like watching a bunch of chicken shit retarted people trying to fix this situation. How many Russians did you see crying on worldwide T.V?

MachoMan's picture

Like a Japanese gameshow perhaps?  Maybe it would help them if they all wore diapers while trying to fix the situation.

bob_dabolina's picture

I don't care if they need tampons, diapers, whatever....just do your job and get that situation under control, you're destroying the Earth assholes.

long juan silver's picture

After they destroy the earth's assholes they're on to the earth's intestinal functions.

avonaltendorf's picture

wonderful, chuckles followed by giggles

Broder_Tuck's picture

The Soviet system was in slow economic meltdown for decades before Chernobyl. I think that it had some effect when finally the leadership understood the severity of the situation and put all the avaliable resources and competence in the nation in to action. They brought in THOUSANDS of miners from the other end of the continent just to build the freaking underground tunnel. That tells you something about the scale of the Chernobyl clean up.

 

I can't escape the eerie feeling that the implications of that organizational and institutional failure of this somehow made it easer for them to rely on common sense and ad hoc solutions. On a individual basis people was use to a dysfunctional system and could maybe snap out of coma and into fast-thinking mode. And once it happened they could custom build machines, dig tunnels etc . After all, there was no manual on how to do it.

 

Compare that to the Just-in-time society in Japan. THAT is scary. If their failed leadership was remowed the brave people in Japan could start cleaning up this disaster. If only the Japanese military was put i charge, maybe we could see something substatial being done istead of this rediculous damage-controll. It's time to let the grown ups handle this before it gets any worse. At least in Chernobyl they where digging tunnels...

flattrader's picture

And they did it largely in secret.

Not in front of a press corp with a 24/7 news cycle.

It's much easier to order people to their death when you don't have cameras pointed at you and them.

No sarcasm.  Not kidding.

equity_momo's picture

As insensitive as your comments are , you have a very good point. The Russians went "balls to the wall" asap on Chernobyl whereas the Japs are more concerned about "saving face" and cover ups.

"Public/media relations" and "political correctness" are two of the social pillars that have aided in our socio-economic collapse.

The Japanese economy is fucked. The unforeseen (for the dumb-dumb) consequences of this are horrendous , mostly for Japan.

bob_dabolina's picture

lol of course my comments are insensitive. This isn't a dating site and I hate political correctness. I think it's been a large factor in the downfall of America.

example:

When it was normal for kids to make fun of fat kids guess what happened? We had less fat kids. All of a sudden it is frowned upon and look what happened...we have people who need to get fork lifted out of their house and we refer to the situation as an epidemic. Well, up until America got sensitive it was never an issue ever, in the history of humanity.

ColonelCooper's picture

Maybe next time instead of "balls to the wall", you should try "nuts deep".  That would indicate the sensitivity of lovemaking between two consenting adults who care deeply for each other.

bob_dabolina's picture

Or we can try...

coitus to the wall

I feel comfortable in that there is a large cross section of America that will never appreciate my bluntness.

fuck em

ColonelCooper's picture

You are quite possibly the funniest son of a bitch on this website.

Of course I am simple, uneducated, cynical and generally a prick, so I don't know if I just paid you a compliment or not.

bob_dabolina's picture

Thank you, I appreciate it :)

equity_momo's picture

Thanks for the preaching to the choir.  I dont need a lesson in how we have spawned a nation of fat stupid cunts thankyou.