Run-Rated Fukushima Radiation Release On Par With, And In Some Cases Greater Than, Chernobyl

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Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:16 | 1091238 quasimodo
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Rudolph with your nose(s) so bright...

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:32 | 1091344 DoChenRollingBearing
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10 more days and I join most of you back up in the in the N. hemisphere.

Hey, yo, Japan!  See if you can fix things up in the next week or so.  I would appreciate it!

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:22 | 1091655 TuesdayBen
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which way does the toidy water spin down there?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:31 | 1091699 DoChenRollingBearing
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I´ll try to remember to watch when I flush my next dump.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:40 | 1091741 Thomas
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"concern in Japan and elsewhere over the contamination of food products such as milk and vegetables in areas near the Japanese reactor site."

You mean, like, Asia?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 19:34 | 1092756 Landrew
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Sorry about cutting in here at the top. I again want to thank you all of getting my video out there. I thought you might like to see part of your efforts have resulted in an article being written in Argentina!

http://www.cukmi.com/como-hacer-un-detector-casero-de-radiactividad-con-bananas-y-una-camara-de-fotos/

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:03 | 1091537 TruthInSunshine
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Only an hour until U.S. markets close. Maybe they'll do another 4:15 pm or 5:30 p.m. bad news reality dump, just to, you know, keep people up to date (and to give TEPCO enough time to propagandize that another fix is imminent before market open tomorrow).

In the meantime, a Japanese newspaper, the Yomiuri Shinbun, reports:

Yomiuri Shinbun 1:21AM JST 3/24/2011

Asked about the damage to the Reactors at Fukushima I Plant, the chairman said, "the fuel rods in the Reactor No.1 are assumed to have melted to a significant degree. Compared to the Reactors No.2 and 3, the situation in the Reactor No.1 is the most severe." The temperature and the pressure of the reactor core continue to rise abnormally, and the situation is getting very dangerous. He disclosed "We are considering releasing the valve to let the steam out of the Reactor Pressure Vessel in order to prevent the destruction."

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:49 | 1091743 ZerOhead
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I heard he just sold his mansion in Tokyo. Sale closes tomorrow.

Looks like a lot of people are leaving... something about Fubarshima Springs becoming the official water supplier to the city.

Austria...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/austria-moves-embassy-tokyo-osaka-over-nuclear-concerns-20110315-062604-948.html

Bulgaria...

http://sofiaecho.com/2011/03/22/1063494_bulgaria-moves-embassy-from-tokyo-to-fukuoka

Germany...

http://www.thedaily-blitz.com/home/germany-moves-embassy-from-tokyo-to-osaka-1040315/

Oh crap... everyone is moving.

Finland... Switzerland... Norway... Nepal... Bangladesh...

 

Going to be a whole lotta people looking real silly when this entire radiation cloud dealio blows over just like TPTB claim... right?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:57 | 1091837 Herman Strandsc...
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Any Emperor worth his emperorworthiness would find London fit for a Queen. Just sayin.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 21:15 | 1093074 jeff montanye
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regarding tokyo real estate:  at the top in 1989 just the land of the imperial palace grounds was worth more than the entire state of california, or so it was said.  certainly in the twenty two years since, prices have come down.  i'm thinking in a couple of years we may actually see a bottom there since markets can appropriately discount the thirty year half life of cesium 137.  

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:01 | 1091541 jus_lite_reading
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Did Chernobyl have a F*CKING NEUTRON BEAM SHOOTING OUT RADIOACTIVE PARTICLES?!

http://fiatsfire.blogspot.com/2011/03/healthy-smoke-healthy-water-egypti...

TEPCO even said so!!

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:35 | 1091719 ColonelCooper
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Yes.  It would be the one that Tyler told us about five hours ago.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 20:20 | 1092907 MSimon
Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:50 | 1091805 ZerOhead
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Neutron beams emitting from plants.

Neutron beans emerging from plants.

Welcome to the new Japanese Prefecture of Fubarshima.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 16:31 | 1092053 Commander Cody
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This could (and probably does) mean that fuel in the reactor and/or the spent fuel pool has gone critical (self-sustaining chain reaction - not good).

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 16:34 | 1092070 Cursive
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This is like soveriegn currency, right? Adjusted for constsnt dollars, the chernobyl radioactive elements are, like, 4 times greater than the Fukushima radioactive elements.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 16:39 | 1092073 Cursive
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iphone dup

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 19:53 | 1092825 trav7777
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Yes.  Chernobyl was an ongoing fission reaction combined with a fire.

People who stood and looked at that reactor from 1km away received a lethal dose.  I hear it was quite pretty.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 20:08 | 1093114 Gunther
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Reporting is strange here; to compare the emissions absolute numbers or flow rates would make sense. For example: In the Chernobyl accident x kg of radioactive iodine were released. In Fukushima for now y kg were released.

Alternatively, an average stream of x kg/hour was released in Chernobyl and in Fukushima y kg/hour is released.

edit:

compare reporting to this one from Jesses Cafe Americain:

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2011/03/fukushima-radioactive-f...

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:16 | 1091241 alien-IQ
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Glowing green shoots. Rally on...nothing to see here.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:30 | 1091321 Dr. Richard Head
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Looks like a new correlation to trade under; radiation up - dow up.  Trade away and Buy that fucking dip.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:16 | 1091253 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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Where's Math Man? Wonder what he thinks?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:20 | 1091265 asdasmos
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Indeed, Math Man can you please help with this one?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:29 | 1091323 long juan silver
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You're beyond help.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:53 | 1091809 Dr. Acula
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Stop worrying. Planet Earth is already full of Caesium-137.

It costs like $5 to dig that shit out of the ground.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 16:16 | 1091948 Bicycle Repairman
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Surely Trav7777 can straighten us all out?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:45 | 1091398 Temporis
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You notice how him and Harry Wangfukbag never post here any more...

It must suck to be continuously wrong.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 16:32 | 1092068 Reptil
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Dunno, I don't suck, usually. ;-)

Then again, perhaps when someone pays enough?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:18 | 1091255 Caviar Emptor
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This is a bullish wall of worry: the higher the radioactive particle level, the higher the stock market. 

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:30 | 1091329 DoChenRollingBearing
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Run, Forrest, run!

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:34 | 1091348 Carl Spackler-t...
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But you can't eat radiation?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:37 | 1091381 hamurobby
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Sure ya can, it just sprinkles down on your vegetables.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:52 | 1091814 ZerOhead
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Cesium Seasoning?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 19:36 | 1092773 andybev01
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Cesium Salad?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 20:25 | 1092915 ZerOhead
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+1

The one that got away! :)

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:37 | 1091380 What does it al...
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It's definitely bull.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:21 | 1091258 bob_dabolina
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This is going to worse for another reason seldom mentioned.

The Russians had some balls and got that situation under control/cleaned up very quickly.

The Japanese are bunch of pussies that seemingly have no idea what's going on. It's like watching a bunch of chicken shit retarted people trying to fix this situation. How many Russians did you see crying on worldwide T.V?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:23 | 1091290 MachoMan
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Like a Japanese gameshow perhaps?  Maybe it would help them if they all wore diapers while trying to fix the situation.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:28 | 1091307 bob_dabolina
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I don't care if they need tampons, diapers, whatever....just do your job and get that situation under control, you're destroying the Earth assholes.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:39 | 1091393 long juan silver
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After they destroy the earth's assholes they're on to the earth's intestinal functions.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:48 | 1091781 avonaltendorf
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wonderful, chuckles followed by giggles

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 14:42 | 1091413 Broder_Tuck
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The Soviet system was in slow economic meltdown for decades before Chernobyl. I think that it had some effect when finally the leadership understood the severity of the situation and put all the avaliable resources and competence in the nation in to action. They brought in THOUSANDS of miners from the other end of the continent just to build the freaking underground tunnel. That tells you something about the scale of the Chernobyl clean up.

 

I can't escape the eerie feeling that the implications of that organizational and institutional failure of this somehow made it easer for them to rely on common sense and ad hoc solutions. On a individual basis people was use to a dysfunctional system and could maybe snap out of coma and into fast-thinking mode. And once it happened they could custom build machines, dig tunnels etc . After all, there was no manual on how to do it.

 

Compare that to the Just-in-time society in Japan. THAT is scary. If their failed leadership was remowed the brave people in Japan could start cleaning up this disaster. If only the Japanese military was put i charge, maybe we could see something substatial being done istead of this rediculous damage-controll. It's time to let the grown ups handle this before it gets any worse. At least in Chernobyl they where digging tunnels...

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:45 | 1091756 flattrader
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And they did it largely in secret.

Not in front of a press corp with a 24/7 news cycle.

It's much easier to order people to their death when you don't have cameras pointed at you and them.

No sarcasm.  Not kidding.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:24 | 1091657 equity_momo
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As insensitive as your comments are , you have a very good point. The Russians went "balls to the wall" asap on Chernobyl whereas the Japs are more concerned about "saving face" and cover ups.

"Public/media relations" and "political correctness" are two of the social pillars that have aided in our socio-economic collapse.

The Japanese economy is fucked. The unforeseen (for the dumb-dumb) consequences of this are horrendous , mostly for Japan.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:33 | 1091684 bob_dabolina
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lol of course my comments are insensitive. This isn't a dating site and I hate political correctness. I think it's been a large factor in the downfall of America.

example:

When it was normal for kids to make fun of fat kids guess what happened? We had less fat kids. All of a sudden it is frowned upon and look what happened...we have people who need to get fork lifted out of their house and we refer to the situation as an epidemic. Well, up until America got sensitive it was never an issue ever, in the history of humanity.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:38 | 1091737 ColonelCooper
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Maybe next time instead of "balls to the wall", you should try "nuts deep".  That would indicate the sensitivity of lovemaking between two consenting adults who care deeply for each other.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 15:49 | 1091791 bob_dabolina
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Or we can try...

coitus to the wall

I feel comfortable in that there is a large cross section of America that will never appreciate my bluntness.

fuck em

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 16:13 | 1091943 ColonelCooper
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You are quite possibly the funniest son of a bitch on this website.

Of course I am simple, uneducated, cynical and generally a prick, so I don't know if I just paid you a compliment or not.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 16:27 | 1092030 bob_dabolina
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Thank you, I appreciate it :)

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 16:03 | 1091855 equity_momo
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Thanks for the preaching to the choir.  I dont need a lesson in how we have spawned a nation of fat stupid cunts thankyou.

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