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Wed, 02/17/2010 - 15:56 | 234417 Hephasteus
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The computer buys the computer sells. Jump in anytime people. Outbid a computer. What a market.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:08 | 234442 lizzy36
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Andy close @ or above 1100?

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:43 | 234497 lizzy36
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tough call at this point. 

watching womens downhill......yanks going to win 1st ever gold. 

unbelievable crashes on this course.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:57 | 234520 ptoemmes
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There gonna try to put the hammer rock right on the 1100 crosshairs in the house.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:11 | 234550 deadhead
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i think ptoemmes is correct....Thurs and Fri could run just like today through friday bell.  i think we get a gap up tomorrow in a feeble attempt to get close to the 1110 61.8 fib level then it is south of the border.

 

 

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:10 | 234448 BS Inc.
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But that's what's so frustrating if you're trying to short equities. Every correlation breaks just in the nick of time to save the market. If the Euro correlation had held, the market would be much lower, not just today, but over the past few months.

One by one, the alleged "props" of the bull market thesis get taken out, yet the market marches on, with nary a real drop. Doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes to deduce something fishy is going on. I think Biderman is right, it has to be a buyer Trim Tabs doesn't track.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 21:18 | 234900 Master Bates
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It's called technicals.

The markets were grossly oversold, and then they corrected to where they weren't oversold anymore.

Now they're almost overbought again, just in time to meet required fib retracements.
Don't worry, you'll get your downtrend soon enough.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 14:04 | 235645 Anonymous
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A wise man once said to me that market tops are a process and market bottoms are an event.

Translation: it is hard to shake out the complacency of bullishness. Face it there are a lot more long only types out there who are conditioned to buy the dips than people willing to short markets. It is what it is and you just got to go along with the flow.

Also, I find labeling market action that you don't understand as a "conspiracy" (not that that is what BS is doing) or whatever is only a mental crutch to absolve you from feeling responsibility for your losing trades. Even if there is a grand Federal Reserve/Treasury/Bilderburger/Vampire Squid/Chinese/Whatever conspiracy, you need to adapt or move on to another profession. Complaining about it isn't going to put those losses back in your account (unless you actually are TBTF).

Good luck all (except those trading against me).

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:43 | 236263 Anonymous
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Right on, brother...except I wish some good luck to all...you want to be the casino, not the gambler, and the casino needs the gamblers to win enough to keep playing...

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:34 | 234574 Budd Fox
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Ya tell me ?? I have a short term position in something so volatile as USD/KIWI and i am long USD, as I believe risk will be vomited out sooner than later...I took so much flak in the office for a 1 figure bounce back of the KIWI i spent the whole nite doing something i NEVER do...watching constantly the bloody screen!!

The CAPM is dead long ago...the bloody fekkin market is fractal and this involves elevations to power...in street talk means you just cannot handle the volatility...it just wipes you out!!

Time to find another occupation...

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:01 | 235073 Anonymous
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Trading mechanically in my trading account; 80% loaded with 1x short ETFs in retirement accounts from 1095. Sleeping well, waiting for the black swan dive. At 1x I can wait a LONG time...but I won't have to. No way we get past Q3 without some event pulling the rug out so that even the Boyz can't dance on it.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:02 | 235076 Anonymous
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Trading mechanically in my trading account; 80% loaded with 1x short ETFs in retirement accounts from 1095. Sleeping well, waiting for the black swan dive. At 1x I can wait a LONG time...but I won't have to. No way we get past Q3 without some event pulling the rug out so that even the Boyz can't dance on it.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:49 | 234688 Hephasteus
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Schizophrenic market is schizophrenic.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:02 | 234429 BS Inc.
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This is "unprecedented", I'm sure.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:10 | 234446 BlackBeard
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Thinner than Ally Mcbeal.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:10 | 234447 John McCloy
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How about when sentiment gets over the hill and goes bearish? It will be entertaining to see bulls squirm as the low volume brings the inverse and trends lower on air.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:10 | 234449 truont
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"There are no markets anymore.  Only interventions."--Chris Powell.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:34 | 234488 carbonmutant
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 +1

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:08 | 234547 Cistercian
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 Free market FAIL.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:16 | 234456 Going Down
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Why Not Catch A Video?

 

Brooksley Born in "The Warning" brought to you by Frontline.

 

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/view/?utm_campaign=viewp...

 

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:31 | 234483 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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The story of the woman who stood up to the three headed giant that was summers greenspan and rubin is not only entertaining, it is a warning. they spoke of derivatives as though they came and went, in frontline last night. they are hovering over our heads like an atom bomb.

Brook Sly Born for President

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:03 | 234538 assumptionblindness
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I would love to see Brooksley Born as Treasury Secretary.  She would be a real pain in the ass for Ben.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 03:44 | 235198 Rick64
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11 yrs. ago !!!

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:36 | 234578 Bear
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Thanks for the find ... interesting that the Administration is 'talking' a lot but 'acting' little

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:20 | 234465 Anonymous
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can some enlighten me and explain what the indicator "accu. vol. diff" plot?

-619*10^3. what is this number?

thanks

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:26 | 234473 buzzsaw99
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If the volume keeps dropping this market is going to soar!

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:28 | 234477 BS Inc.
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Maybe they'll pass a "can't buy except on an uptick" rule. That'd put a little more lift under this baby.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:38 | 234493 Anonymous
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Can only buy on uptick? Interesting proposal. How would that work?

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 20:00 | 234803 BS Inc.
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Don't know. Just trying to think of the most absurd possible regulation to make the market go up and that's what came to mind!

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:38 | 234494 John McCloy
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Hey lets make all long positions a mandatory 30 day holding period that can only be purchased on .10 cent ticks upward. All those interested in shorting shares of stock need to apply for a shorting license in person at their local Department of State and place the equivalent of 50% of their short position in depository bond.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:30 | 234481 obewon
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The FED, and their agents JPM and GS, are masters at this game!

As long as there is no US crisis, and  "no panic" moves (i.e massive exodus from stocks), they can continue to control this market through the summer.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:32 | 234485 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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She got the vapas!

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:43 | 234499 Anonymous
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this looks like it's going to drop soon

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:48 | 234504 Segestan
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Doesn't that mean the patient is dead?

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:49 | 234507 girl money
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betcha can't guess what's on the top of the selling on strength list today.

http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3022-mflppg-moneyflow.html?mod=mdc_leader

yup, SPY.

in robot voice:  but...s&p.... must...close...over... 1100... brrrrrt...ding!

 

 

 

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:07 | 234544 deadhead
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girl...i've yet to see any correlation in the past year between that list (or buying on weakness) and what happens next day....just saying.....

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:52 | 234511 Not A Pundit
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Yes.... and notice the volume pattern.  It's slowly working it's way towards what the volume looked like on the 4th and 5th.  Just wait until the computers hit that event when they stop buying.  Don't know when that will be, but it will again be brutal.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:52 | 234512 Anonymous
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The fed own the market. They are designing a market that only goes up. The Fed is sending a message to all shorts.... If you are a short, were going to eat to eat your lunch for ya.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 21:20 | 234903 Master Bates
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Oh, it'll be back up again... AFTER March.

It's not finished correcting yet, so don't fret.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:56 | 234519 Gimp
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Great Frontline piece last night, the people running the hidden markets, or shall we dare say "ponzi" pulled all the political might they could to silence poor Brooksley Born who was just doing her job (something unheard of in DC). 

Sad of course that Summers and Tiny Tim are now the economic advisors to the new administration. WTF.

 

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:58 | 234521 Anonymous
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Forgive me, but could I impose on someone to explain the accum vol diff indicator and how it should be interpreted (a link to such an explanation would of course be fine and easier for them)? Thanks.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:00 | 234527 Bear_Cub
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Thanks for posting these charts TD. Those of us who don't know where to get these types of charts really appreciate it.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:26 | 234563 Anonymous
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Bloomberg machine.. :)

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 21:16 | 234897 Master Bates
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stockcharts.com > public chart lists > take your pic

My favorite charts are from the Smart Trader.  That guy's a freakin genius...

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 08:10 | 235263 Anonymous
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+1

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:45 | 234586 Anonymous
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Maybe they should move Mad Money to 3 PM EST? Then we could get the Jim Cramer BooYaa cheerleading effect for the final hour push higher. (Remember all recommendations made by Jim ......)

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:49 | 234596 macroeconomist
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Whats happening to Gold after 16.30? 1% drop in the after hours, has someone heard of something before everyone and selling off?

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 19:59 | 234800 faustian bargain
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IMF pretending they're selling gold.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 14:57 | 235717 Hephasteus
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This time they are pretending harder.

Don't make them go full blown over the top drama queen pretense levels. Cause they'll DO IT.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 21:23 | 234725 RiskFreeT
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Weak volume rally is bearish

Dow 5000 or 15000?

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 20:36 | 234846 Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 08:13 | 235264 Anonymous
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so the TERMINATOR movie is coming true.......machines will be used to beat us humans everywhere....from markets to wars.....

The MATRIX is real ...wake up people...

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 21:15 | 234894 Master Bates
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Look, the technicals had this coming.  In fact, it should get up a little bit higher before flying south for the winter, but not much.

It's just clearing out the oversold condition in STO so it can head back down again.  Don't worry.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 21:34 | 234920 rhinotrader
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Don't expect a pullback till Monday. OpEx, so you know they will try and gun down the shorts for the 10th straight month.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 23:40 | 235058 Grand Supercycle
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The impending dollar rally that I warned about from mid 2009 onwards has only just started.

USD Index daily and weekly charts remain bullish.

Vice versa for the EURO and DOW/SP00.

http://www.zerohedge.com/forum/market-outlook-0

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 08:28 | 235267 Anonymous
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I just save my money in gold and silver over the years.
Never lost one dime only going up and up.Everey time I
see the price drop I thank the paper idiots and buy more.
I think in a few years I will trade it for a nice house
or small farm (debt free!!)It feels just like alchemy to
trade paper for gold.Not buying now because gold just made
a all time high in euros!!(I'm Dutch).
Good luck

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