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Santelli's Stages Of Dealing With CNBC Propaganda: Anger, Anger, Anger, Acceptance

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With nobody believing anything that comes out of CNBC these days, The only reason to watch the GE subsidiary it seems is for these rare occasions when Rick Santelli lays the smack down on Steve Liesman, and on occasion, goes against the whole propaganda grain (not our words). Fast forward to 1'30" for the fire and brimstone, but watch the whole video for the reason why CNBC will soon institute a 15 second Santelli-malfunction time delay.

 

 





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Mon, 09/14/2009 - 13:59 | Link to Comment Nolsgrad
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where's the vid/link?

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:11 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Wrong link. No link to a video.

There it is!!

Oh my god. He just totally smacked Steveo with his nuts.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:05 | Link to Comment crzyhun
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I saw. It was GREAT!! The great Santelli says it like he sees it!!

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:06 | Link to Comment ZeroPower
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But the S&P went green, there must have been TONS of good news today!!

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:19 | Link to Comment Chippewa Partners
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Birinyi, Rogers, the Palindrome (SOROS) and Santelli are but a handful of reasons the sound on CNBC  is ever turned on in our shop.  We see enough lunacy on our screens to take any more comedy from the touts.   

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:09 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:21 | Link to Comment Overpowered By Funk
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But Marla, don't forget to give Liesman props for that rimjob hardhitting interview he gave did with Geithner.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Jeanbon
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Propaganda hunchback from Notre Dame vs.

Al Pacino from the CBOT floor. Great Movie!

Better than celebrities death match. I stay tuned.

 

It all depends on the VIX. With low volatility, derivative

positions are harmless an can be owned in huge size.

They only start to matter when vol. jumps and liquidity

dries out. 

 

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:27 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 17:18 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 22:05 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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Thank you...I see that the propaganda pussies were afraid to engage the truth!

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:28 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:30 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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YEEEHAAAAW!

I love how Steve, once the big bully Rick is cut off from the debate, asks everyone in studio who's right and who's wrong by asking if anyone agrees with Rick. What a pathetic display of insecurity.

BTW interesting dilemma CNBC has here. On one hand Santelli is now most likely THE primary driver of their ratings so giving him his own show would be profitable, on the other hand...you know, people might start listening.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:46 | Link to Comment Steak
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I once saw Liesman in the congressional cafeteria (freedom fries anyone).  Well I'm surprised and drop a Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey you're Liesman and shake the guy's hand.  Then coming to my senses I say to him, "I'm a big fan of Rick Santelli." BTW, the guy is like 5'3'' and projects the image of a unfunny uglier George Costanza.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 16:08 | Link to Comment Nathan Smith
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5' 3"......hmmm....my plan to jump kick him in the face has been downgraded to kick him in the face, should our paths ever cross.

Tue, 09/15/2009 - 22:11 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:33 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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I was in DC Saturday with a million or so other concerned citizens.  I was, by the way, flying ZH colors.  No one noticed, and I didn't get to Little Miss Whiskey's as I intended.  The politest bunch of protesters DC has seen, probably....ever.  When was the last time a million protesters assembled in DC and sang the national anthem together?  Never, that's when.  The middle class producers know this is their last chance, and standing shoulder-to-shoulder is the order of the day.  No trash left, people thanking Capitol policemen for being there.  Some of them noticed, showing it by returning smiles.  An interesting day.  Anyone care to relate similar protests marked by smiling Capitol police?  The movement is capable of being respectful, but anyone doubting determination is taking the wrong side of this trade.

MSM is reporting the event as drawing "tens of thousands", while video footage of the event clearly shows many times that.  As a libertarian I am well acquainted with being marginalized and/or ignored by the mainstream press.  And while the crowd was certainly not majority libertarian (as far as they knew), in this instance there is substantial evidence (footage) available that reveals the MSM's efforts to marginalize the event, thereby contributing instead to their own continued self-marginalization, continuing apace to the final end of total irrelevance.  Hokahey!

If anyone needs links to overhead video of the crowds or wishes to dispute the numbers, please let me know.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Steak
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The key to a respectful protest is keeping those ANSWER folks away.  I've been to more than my fair share as a participant and spectator.  Those A-holes and their tag team partners the LaRouchies really spoil any good time.

Also just as a rule of thumb, if the whole hill with the Washington Monument is packed with folk shoulder to shoulder then thats about 200K, big empty spaces then its more like >100K.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:17 | Link to Comment Whizbang
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Fly-over counts estimated at 1.5 to 2 million. I was in d.c. for it, and it was a mad house.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:38 | Link to Comment Steak
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Just some more rough estimates, the entire Mall (Capitol to Lincoln) with folk shoulder to shoulder is more or less 1.5 million.  I would say add another 100K for each packed block beyond the Mall area.  I just mention those references for anyone trying to do a mental guesstimate.  Either way I'm quite sure it was massive.

Good on ya for making it up to DC.  Did y'all do any shouting at the White House?  I'd try to get a good few rounds of "stay out the bushes" for protests in front of the WH, was very cathartic. 

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 16:23 | Link to Comment John Self
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This site tries some educated guesswork and comes up with estimates ranging from 600K to 1.2 MM. 

http://www.gormogons.com/2009/09/how-many-people-were-at-big-912-tea.html 

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 16:30 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 09/15/2009 - 00:21 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 17:51 | Link to Comment Rollerball
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Oh, to be part of a million chickenwing march.  They're havin' a real good time in Afghanistan douchebag.  I marched 9/15/07 and have the IR burns on my scalp to prove it.  You're a tool.  

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 18:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 19:35 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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I don't know what your beef is exactly.  What is your understanding of my involvement in the event?  Please elaborate.  Was it the singing, the civility?  Perhaps too petit bourgeious?

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:22 | Link to Comment Marshal Ney
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Is this a real grass-roots movement, or the media production of a drug-addled gas-bag and his many clones, who have a near monopoly on American radio? http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200909110022

 

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 16:25 | Link to Comment John Self
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Probably a little of each, but clearly you couldn't get people to travel across the country if the cause didn't resonate with them.

FYI, Media Matters has just as much of an agenda as said gas-bag.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 18:52 | Link to Comment Marshal Ney
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Yes, every media source has a bias. But Media Matters hasn't made hundreds of millions of dollars with the side-show demagogue act. Bias with integrity vs. bias with no integrity. And the gas-bag also has a very personal interest in destroying Obama and any possibility of an increase in taxes for the richest Americans. Me thinketh the King of Gas may loveth his wallet as much as his country.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 16:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 09/15/2009 - 09:32 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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To SWRichmond IV: Your "politest" protest got you nowhere. Thank you for picking up the trash and the "smiling Capitol police". Your protest, although well intended, got no media coverage, and wasn't mentioned by any elected officials. You have no clue how to protest anything. I suppose you are "outraged" ??? Go back to watching your 42" flat panel in your McMansion. You accomplished nothing.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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can someone tell me why the hell do people still use QuickTime Player. I mean its the 21st century for gods sakes. I know its an Apple product and that Steve Jobs is like nerds equivalent of Jesus, but its the worst goddamned player out there. Change it PLEASE

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:45 | Link to Comment Takingbets
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I second that Cheeky!!!!!

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:20 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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i can use whichever predicates i want on non-empirical non-provable entities. 

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 22:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:14 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:38 | Link to Comment LoneStarHog
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:49 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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Thank you so much. I fucking hate QT player. 

Tue, 09/15/2009 - 07:13 | Link to Comment blackebitda
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this link tried to put a trojan horse on my computer

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:49 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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Dylan Ratigan chimes in....(don't want to hear shit because link is to huffpost)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dylan-ratigan/americans-have-been-taken_b_285225.html

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:52 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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Adrianna Huffington should visit Obamas asshole the next time she takes a vacation. She's been sucking up to him for so long, i think its finally time she gets in there. Oh; and thank for the * feel nausea * link ...

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:58 | Link to Comment Silver Bullet
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I couldn't agree more.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:07 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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Silver, i don't know if you have the stomach, but try to read a few comments under some article on HP. It's like the a forum for retarded cretins who are moronically good in false deduction. I'm so fucking pissed last couple of days about the level of mediocrity which took place in the world. Where the fuck have all the great thinkers, doers and movers gone to. Where the hell are the people who are willing to make a sacrifice. I'm so fucking pissed off. When the civilization ( and it will, it's a matter of time ) goes down the toilet you can thank the academia which aborted the SOBs who run things and the society which embraced them. Sometimes, humanity makes me sick. ( pardon my rant; I'm forbidden to shoot and carry my gun here; and there's no range within 200 miles from the place I'm currently at )

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:15 | Link to Comment Dixie Normous
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This is what HuffPo commentors sound like in my mind:

http://www.linkognito.com/b.php?b=220

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:21 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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I know everybody is waiting for the big bad wolf to take off it's grandma disguise so they can start beating it to death. Just gotta wait wait and play the stupid game.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:22 | Link to Comment Breezeway
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Cheeky, so nuanced... :)

I have to say I didn't understand how much ZH has changed my outlook until I was looking at pictures of the DC gathering. I saw some signs with your avatar and my first thought: "Hey, there's Cheeky!"

Oops.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:38 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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what can i say, I'm honored that I have been chosen to be the poster child of the upcoming revolution. That + all the royalties i receive.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Calm down. Repeat after me.

Why grandma. What a big calculator you have.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 22:13 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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Hahahaha...CB, wtf?  dude...get a grip..x

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:36 | Link to Comment Silver Bullet
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I completely agree. They always block my posts over there. For a "liberal" site, they are very conservative as to what you can and cannot say. I especially love when I say anything critical of Obama, all the Obama groupies come out of the wood work to subjectively and blindly bash me.*

They actually have a few decent articles from time to time, you just have to avoid getting sucked into the comment page, or you could be there for hours.

I have broken our world down to this theory.

95 % of people are stupid. Period.

4 % of people are "intelligent" but they routinely get sucked into subctive, partisan debate where knowledge and reason are invariably crushed.

1% (Probably a lot smaller) of people are intelligent, and for the most part are able to wrap their head around the big picture.

*I have noticed a few Obama backers who are starting to break rank on their undying, blind loyalty for the man. Could this be a start of something bigger? Subjectively, I hope so. Objectively, probably not.

Additionally, I remember all through the campaign (really starting in Summer of 2007) how Hillary was going to crush Obama, and how Obama was the biggest underdog of all time. However, the msm systematically started sucking Obama's dick and it became painfully obvious he was going to win both the nomination and the presidency. (I don't care what the national polls said in the summer of 2007; national polls have little effect in primary voting) Anyway, as the economy began to collapse I also noticed the averge American finally began to be upset at the establishment as a whole. That's great, but they got upest at the wrong people and backed the wrong candidate.

I really don't think its any coincidence that GE (MSNBC/CNBC), AOL Time Warner (CNN), Viacom (CBS), and Disney (ABC) backed Obama heavily, and that he has turned out to run a pro-establishment administration. This should have been a red flag from the beginning.

I think that's enough for now.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:52 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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95 % of people are stupid. Period.

4 % of people are "intelligent" but they routinely get sucked into subctive, partisan debate where knowledge and reason are invariably crushed.

1% (Probably a lot smaller) of people are intelligent, and for the most part are able to wrap their head around the big picture.

more like this

99% -----> bordering with retardation

0.5% -----> stupid

0.49% ----> " intelligent "

0.01% ---->  intelligent ( truly ) and big thinkers and know their and most of all the other  " shit "

and some of those 0.01% are here on ZH ( thank ________ ( insert whichever belief you want ))

for the rest of the comment + 200

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 16:08 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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"95 % of people are stupid. Period."

I disagree. 99% confirm hence they are capable of being irrational to a rather high degree. People do stupid things not because they are stupid but because they are humans. And humans are far away from controlling their conformist nature.

p.s. Can't believe its Monday.

 

"HUMAN lack of power in moderating and checking the emotions I call servitude. For a man who is submissive to his emotions does not have power over himself, but is in the hands of fortune to such an extent that he is often constrained, although he may see what is better for him, to follow what is worse.
- B. Spinoza"

he was right even then & little has changed in the way our society and individuals make decisions.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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Cheeky's analysis is flawed. He didn't account for the 10% that are high on weed and the 2% that are tripping balls.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 22:00 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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but that would make 112%

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 19:43 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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faith...please.

Tue, 09/15/2009 - 01:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:38 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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HuffPo screens comments so you're not going to read any smart intelligent thoughts, only what HuffPo wants you to hear.

Entire areas of discussion are simply off limits.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:45 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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So Ariana really is Obamas " bitch " ( notice the " denotation ). Oh, and HuffPost really does mimics to perfection what Obamas administration is all about.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 16:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 22:15 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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She's working the Ambassadorship angle...She is a troll and a communist.  She should thank her lucky stars she did not get AIDS from her ex-homo husband.

Tue, 09/15/2009 - 07:03 | Link to Comment blackebitda
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may i suggest moving to texas. 

Tue, 09/15/2009 - 18:32 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 06/30/2010 - 23:26 | Link to Comment velobabe
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Where the fuck have all the great thinkers, doers and movers gone to.

cheeks, sorry to break this one to ya, babe

T H E Y    ARE     A L L        D E A D†

 

just to let you know i have been with the apple product since the classic. being an artist and all, committed dumb bum.

i might just quit. i have seen it all, quite frankly. the apple revolution. these brick and mortar apple store just sickin me with the kooks, the employees, holy heck the knit wits, right now. i think it is very telling, of the next generation. man these people really don't think anyone else exists 'cept them.  i tell them off†

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:57 | Link to Comment phaesed
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Thanks for the link.... Ratigan was the best reason to watch CNBC except for the moments of tantalizing cleavage (which can only be properly enjoyed with the sound on mute, otherwise it ruins the entire experience).

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:28 | Link to Comment ToNYC
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Dylan is now the best reason to turn off CNBC to go to MSNBC the moment the subtraction wizard MH say LI...click!(who can determine any time after 9AM until 9:29:52 when the bell rings). Dylan is like a great BS short-stop, doesn't let the oxymoronics get by him before he's all over it. He leaves all other TV face-to-face interviewers in the dust. You should remember he got canned in late March for his dogged determination to not let the 100% payback of GS phony counterparties with not ever real cash through Government-assisted TP ripoff by GS embedded clones. Like a Mexican drug war victory, the competition was dealt with (LEH to hell and Barclays and BSC to jpmCHASE (David Rockefeller). Did anyone notice that Ford is the only survivor of auto industry and most of their corporate bond deals were GS sole underwritten?..old money and the FED Central Banking clan..ring arond the rosy credit..the survivors pick up all the chips..Do the Swiss care with all the world's money in their vaults when the rest go nuclear? Their bomb shelters are a hoot! Truth and consequences keep it real.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 16:31 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 21:54 | Link to Comment McGriffen
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As stupidly run the Detroit 'used to be big' 3 were, Ford started getting it's act together about 12-24 months before the others.  Brought in mulally to replace a FORD, mortgaged about everything available & hoarded cash back in mid-late 2007.  Stroke of luck or stroke of genius...sometimes the difference can be negligible.

But if you look at their product lines, they've been moderately simplified; they dumped Jaguar onto Tata (India-based).  Plus, I think their union negotiations were more successful and generally a step ahead of GM or Chrysler.

Business, as in golf, sometimes good to be lucky.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:18 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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Santelli: The Fed.... sham, irresponsible, horrible. Fixed all the banks and people still can't get loans. I'm done, now you can give me all the propoganda.

Liesman: No Rick, it's not propoganda.

 

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 15:47 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 09/14/2009 - 23:29 | Link to Comment ToNYC
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You've got a better chance of seeing God. Those two rare pair with a pair, straight-shooters would rather eat dogfood under an overpass than enable Fox News to do anything but blow their collective Satanic brains out.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 20:55 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 21:10 | Link to Comment whopper
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that Liesman HAS to work for the banks and gov.

Nobody can be so blind and full of it.  

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 21:43 | Link to Comment Overpowered By Funk
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I have posted on other sites that the worst of CNBC is not the bimbos or the cheerleading that goes with it, but in fact is Steve Liesman the Senior Econ editor who is really a shill for the govt BS that gets fed to us. That bullshit townhall with Geithner was classic Liesman - tongue straight up Geithner's ass. He comes across to the layman as the voice of reason, and yet he is by far and away the most full of shit. Santelli will most likely be looking fo work soon.

Mon, 09/14/2009 - 22:25 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 09/14/2009 - 22:28 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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Kayne West interrupts Obama speech to Investment bankers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sean-carman/kanye-west-interrupts-oba_b_286560.html

 

Tue, 09/15/2009 - 03:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 09/15/2009 - 06:52 | Link to Comment blackebitda
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Rick you need to move to another network. yes the only reason i watch the jerry springer of wall street TV is for your input; however, i am noticing that you are holding back. you are a trader, F the GE job security. CNBC will wreck you. you need to pull a Dylan Rattigan and either join him or join FOX News. Plus FOX News women are way more smokin hott. Nevertheless, the retail viewers have no idea what you say, nor do they know how to operate from your info. Your passion and value is misdirected, seriouslly...move to another network. CNBC will be worthless with you gone and i will no longer be forced to watch that lame reporting network. 

Dear CNBC, if you just report the boring facts, and stop the commentary that would help. also showing cleavage [FOX copy cat] a bit helpful. 

Tue, 09/15/2009 - 09:59 | Link to Comment McGriffen
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Santelli & Ron Burgundy...you stay classy

more cleavage never solved problems or stopped wars...

Tue, 09/15/2009 - 07:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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