Scandal: Albert Edwards Alleges Central Banks Were Complicit In Robbing The Middle Classes

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Thu, 01/21/2010 - 12:16 | 200714 Anonymous
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Welcome to Austrian economics.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 15:06 | 200993 illyia
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Exactly.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 23:15 | 201757 Cursive
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Has Albert Edwards seen/read "The Creature from Jekyll Island"?  It was a fix from the start.  If the Federal Reserve is owned by its Member Banks, what difference is there between a central banker and a private banker?  The problem is debt-money and it is foisted upon us by the bankers, all bankers.  We must repeal the Federal Reserve Act and end the issuance of debt-money.

Fri, 01/22/2010 - 00:00 | 201824 JR
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+$23,700,000,000,000.00 + 4,000,000,000,000.00 (2010) = +$27,700,000,000,000,00!

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 12:18 | 200717 JuicyTheAnimal
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If Bernokio is not reconfirmed I will stick my dick in the mash potatoes.  I think this is quite sporty of me knowing that the replacement will probably be just another seller of pig snot in a different colored tie. 

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 17:15 | 201207 dark pools of soros
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+8

 

make sure to spread the sour cream

Fri, 01/22/2010 - 03:43 | 201991 Anonymous
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"has to be read by all Senators"

there are 3 oxymoron's contained in those 7 words

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 07:40 | 203640 justme
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I was thinking earlier that it would be at least lip service to accountability if Bernholio were given his walking papers. Then I thought, good Lord, the morons will put Larry Summers in there. Then I cast about for a spork to kill myself with.

 

At any rate, I'll stick with the rice, thanks.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 12:20 | 200720 Cognitive Dissonance
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As more and more info comes out regarding the complicity of the Fed in this massive Ponzi, I must ask myself how the Fed has lost control of the information stream? Who is engaged in this intergalactic war against Helicopter Ben, Turbo Tax Timmy and company?

Be carful when reading information that confirms you point of view and feeds your belief system. I'm not saying the information is correct or incorrect. I saying ask yourself who benefits from these disclosures here and now.

Sometimes during information dumps, some deliberate dis-information is mixed in with the rest to give it credibility. This is why we must always apply the critical eye to everything we read, particularly info that pleases us and thus gets a free ride straight into the brain.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 12:34 | 200739 Problem Is
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"This is why we must always apply the critical eye to everything we read, particularly info that pleases us and thus gets a free ride straight into the brain."

+1111

Critical analysis and logically valid reasoning-- a peasants best friend. Or so my Russian friends who lived through the Soviet era tell me.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 13:33 | 200783 WaterWings
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Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prize winner:

 

Harvard Address: A World Split Apart

 

"We have placed too much hope in political and social reforms, only to find out that we were being deprived of our most precious possession: our spiritual life. In the East, it is destroyed by the dealings and machinations of the ruling party. In the West, commercial interests suffocate it. This is the real crisis. The split in the world is less terrible than the similarity of the disease plaguing its main sections."

 

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/harvard1978.html

Warning to the West 

We have a Russian proverb: "Do not call a wolf to help you against the dogs." If dogs are attacking and tearing at you, fight against the dogs, but do not call a wolf for help. Because when the wolves come, they will destroy the dogs, but they will also tear you apart.

 

There is another Russian proverb: "The yes- man is your enemy, but your friend will argue with you."

 

http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles7/SolzhenitsynWarning.php


The Gulag Archipelago:

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

 

Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, polkers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat.

 

Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur – what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

 

If... if... We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation. We spent ourselves in one unrestrained outburst in 1917, and then we hurried to submit. We submitted with pleasure! ........... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."

 

http://www.lewrockwell.com/gaddy/gaddy53.html

 

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 16:40 | 201166 cougar_w
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They had nothing left to lose.

The wisdom of the ages. The wisdom of 5 million years of human evolution. Summed up right there.

They had nothing left, but what do we have? Is there anything? Can you point to it, please?

Make me believe, cause me to see it. Lie to me, fake me, empty my skull and fill it with dreams for I want to see it!

You can't because there is nothing left. Even the lies are too little.

cougar

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 16:48 | 201176 MsCreant
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Holy Shit.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 17:29 | 201234 WaterWings
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You forgot to turn off the sarcasm at the end of your post.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 17:47 | 201259 faustian bargain
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Here's a random list of some things we might have left: 42" plasma, nationwide 3G coverage, texting (or sexting), 40 hour workweeks, minimum wage for doing nothing, P/E ratios thru the roof, fractional (microscopic) reserves, cheap double mortgages, subsidized health care, dinner at Micky-D's.

Hm, you may be right.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 17:59 | 201284 WaterWings
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My list only has one item that is worth living for: the laughter of children.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 18:04 | 201288 faustian bargain
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aw man, quit tryin' to deconstruct my cynicism. ;-P

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 18:30 | 201334 WaterWings
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Cynically, you can get what I want at Mickey D's, too.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 18:37 | 201340 faustian bargain
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that's more like it!

the party never stops at chuck e cheese's!

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 23:18 | 201760 DaveyJones
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Timmy G

is Monetary P

by Chuck E Chee

Fri, 01/22/2010 - 10:09 | 202078 ro0t
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In the words of Fat Mike from NoFX:

Don't think (Stay)
Drink your wine (Home)
Watch the fire burn (Be)
His problems not mine (Safe)
Just be that model citizen

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 23:26 | 201776 Anonymous
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Like a long prison sentence, you are being stripped of every novelty and shiny distracting thing. You are coming to know the carnal nature of man and his neighbor. Perhaps it is to work more expressly upon your mind, provoking some spiritual search.

Maybe there is truly more than fine dining, pomp&circumstance, vanity and pride.

That is the new frontier. Don't miss it with cynical skepticism and ignorant unbelief.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 23:26 | 201777 Anonymous
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Like a long prison sentence, you are being stripped of every novelty and shiny distracting thing. You are coming to know the carnal nature of man and his neighbor. Perhaps it is to work more expressly upon your mind, provoking some spiritual search.

Maybe there is truly more than fine dining, pomp&circumstance, vanity and pride.

That is the new frontier. Don't miss it with cynical skepticism and ignorant unbelief.

Fri, 01/22/2010 - 01:16 | 201907 WaterWings
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@ cougar_w

A final word on "nothing left to lose":

The author of the quote lived in the camps for 11 years. Which is far above average considering the life expectancy of those that survived interrogation. The accounts in The Gulag Archipelago numb you very quickly if you can even continue reading - if it were not for the author's writing style you would assume the worst and put the historical account down forever.

The author was a primary witness of the infernal machine. The constantly gleaned Soviet society had only to act as one to demonstrate that they were willing to give it all in order to avoid the inhumane interrogations and camps one by one.

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwKS1jE2lmY

So I believe I share similar feelings. I have little hope for the majority of America. We no longer have a common bond to unite us.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 21:16 | 201615 Anonymous
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“What do we mean by the American Revolution? Do we mean the American war? The Revolution was effected before the war commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations…This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution.” John Adams

so now the counter revolution has taken place. we must now counter the counter revolution to get back to that place where we were. it has been a long time and a long road....can we do this?

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 12:44 | 204490 moneymutt
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great post, good stuff, thanks

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 12:42 | 200752 Anonymous
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I usually scroll through the comments quickly looking to see if you've commented. Fantastic insight as always.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 13:18 | 200817 Heavy
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Implying that either the info dump is intentional and part of a larger plan?  The info dump increases disdain of the financial system allowing change to the financial system, the change enacted is not going to reflect the disdain of the people, but rather their hope, as ascribed to them by the mainstream media, in reality most people won't know what has gone on until it's done, and their existancex will be under a new system of monetary rule, by some of the same rulers, to rule them all, and in the darkness...

Either that or similarly influential parts of the oversociety from other regions disagree with us, (read as conflicting with us) here in the good ole USA.  They could try to short circuit our system in order to gain relative prominance and influance for their own interests.  This seems more likely to be a case of influancing rather than a case of conflicting with the hope of destroying, others have more to gain by riding our changes than by fighting them? 

Who knows, I agree, t.hat the new Mainstream lines of truth may be less so than they are hoped to be.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 13:47 | 200861 B9K9
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If there is any grain of truth in the notion of a controlling cabal dating all the way back to the Illuminati, then we are all mere pawns in a huge game of chess played out by those so bored with life that their only joy (if they even experience that emotion) is to fuck with other people just for fuck's sake.

Don't think they exist? How does a Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, et al rise above all others in their respective fields? Are there not financial super-predators so innately attuned to their chosen calling that they perform such feats with, dare I say it, artistic genius?

If so, then recent events are merely the trap being sprung to extract the last piece of wealth before the bottom drops out. The game has always been about monetary expansion - the day monetary expansion ceases, the modern global economy dies. So now, in quick succession, we get the election results in MA, leaked information about the Fed and other central banks, notice that Ben's confirmation hearings have been suspended, and new proposed rules regarding Wall St leverage and prop activities. What does it all mean? It means monetary CONTRACTION! What does that mean? It means DEFLATION!

So yes, question why these events & news releases are now taking place - cui bono - who benefits? The shit storm that is about to engulf us all will take all of our individual & collective resources and will power to over-come. Let us take a mutual vow to make sure that those that did this to us are never allowed to do so again. Don't let them benefit.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 15:39 | 201052 OutLookingIn
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"Don't let them benefit (?)

They already have. Too late. The next phase of the game is already in motion, and our team has only just arrived for practice!

If indeed there is a machiavellian plot afoot, then what use closing the hen house door after the fox has eaten all the chickens?

What is needed, nay required! Is an old fashioned 'fox' hunt, with no quarter given or expected.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 16:58 | 201187 cougar_w
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Sadly, both comments appear correct in both form and substance.

Who was wondering what awaited us at the bottom of this rabbit hole? Well ... behold.

Fri, 01/22/2010 - 02:13 | 201965 Assetman
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Wow... I totally agree, cougar.  B9K9 is en fuego...

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 17:04 | 201193 Anonymous
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cui bono?

The Treasury needs credibility, in order to fund the upcoming rollover...that's who benefits from all this "Enough!" talk. Methinks they protest too much, particularly knowing what they've allowed up to this point. Sociopaths don't suddenly grow empathetic...they just fake it, when needed, to continue the con.

When the financing needs are nailed down enough to get past the election, the temporary allergies to can kicking
will miraculously clear up and we'll be back to visible corruption and looting, and we'll all be sitting around talking about
how the "Enough!" phase seems to have died.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 13:53 | 200878 Anonymous
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Excellent comment.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 13:57 | 200880 Anonymous
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Excellent comment.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 15:07 | 200995 Apocalypse Now
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Yes, I wonder if in other democratic countries there is a move on to discredit their political leaders and central banks to lose credibility.

Then we will all be presented with a "savior" most likely in the form of some global entity that exists outside the laws of each country in the form of the IMF, World Bank, and BIS.

The constitution was designed by clever individuals to combat against future clever individuals seeking world domination.  Just remember it is Congress that is supposed to be responsible for coining money and that taxation without representation is not acceptable (if a global entity was to rule and enforce in each country).  The recent approval by Obama of Interpol jurisdiction could be the start of using Interpol as an international tax authority (like the IRS).  Laying the groundwork.

Problem, Response, Solution.

Fri, 01/22/2010 - 06:17 | 202018 Anonymous
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Aren't you over-thinking this? Not every country has a centralized authority, some country exist as a federation. In Canada, the four stock exchanges are each subjected to the securities regulator of their respective provinces. The big national banks have to comply with each of the banking regulator in each province their operate in. If the provinces of some countries won't surrender their regulations to their national federation, what makes you think they will surrender their regulation to the super-national union or to the global government?

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 15:10 | 201000 BS Inc.
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As the Romans said, "Cui bono?"

I think in general that anyone touting "free lunches" or "new eras" or "risk-free returns" are the ones to watch for. Looking back in history, they seem to be the ones who cause the most trouble, if given the chance.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 15:12 | 201009 Seth Davis
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Thankyou for raising the point of the importance for critical analysis and reasoning when consuming information. It seems all to simple for this mob mentality to develop  when there is information that caters to a predisposed view of the majority. The reasons and facts on why those 12 acadimic economist felt it was not the feds policies that caused this disturbing economic enviroment would be a welcomed addition to Zero Hedge and in my opionion add to the integrity of this "Scandal" accusation.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 19:37 | 201438 Anonymous
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The reason the 12 acadimic economists felt it was not the feds was because they were "fresh water economists" and there was no room in their model for such a thing.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 15:48 | 201070 carbonmutant
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+10

Suspend what you believe and trade what you observe.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 15:48 | 201071 Anonymous
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Did you see Alan Alda's "Searching for the Human Spark" on PBS? We are hard-wired to perceived cooperation and joint preference.

This fact, in the hands of "unkind" people, delivers the world of hurt we live in.

Cog, i very much appreciate your efforts to convey the human-ness of economics.

The grabbiness of humans is a central roadblock:(

40muleteam borax

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 16:20 | 201122 Mark Beck
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Debasement of the currency hurts everybody holding USDs, not just the middle class. Many would say corporate america, through outsourcing, has done as much harm to the middle class as monetary inflation.

If you don't hold USDs you will not pay for its debasement. Its that simple.

I would also like to stress that, if you do not pay tax, you will not pay for government debt. This has always been the case, and many influential people use a tax sheild of some sort to essentially have no taxible income. This is usually done through foundations or some other non-profit corporation controlled off-shore through a subsidiary, just ask Bill Gates, who now takes care of Warren Buffet's nest egg.

That being said, the actions of the Treasury and FED directly effect people who pay tax. The population that pays some amount of tax is probably the middle class, but the middle class does not pay the most tax. The people who pay the majority of tax are in the upper 10% of income. They are being hurt the most.

I am also a little suspecious of legislators trying to hold up the FED as a separate scape goat. When our president and legislators have done as much or more harm than the FED. They bash the FED, and then talk about raising the debt ceiling. They talk about the deficit, and then increase military spending. Hypocritces!

If it wasn't for the FED there would be know way for the legislators to spend money we don't have. The FED essentially funds all of the legislators pork projects.

No I am not defending the FED, but it is easy to FED bash and stall on reappointing Bernanke in an effort to mask irresponsible deficit spending. Every time I think the FED is our biggest problem the politicians enact some fiscal nonsense.

Without coordinated fiscal and monetary policy our currency is doomed. I would like to see a return to sound money, but this is not even remotely possible at this point.

I was a little dissapointed with the article, because no solutions were really offered. It was just more of the evil FED with stupid economists. So what's new.

What would be far more enlightning would be to present some viable solutions to the overall systemic problems with our Government which includes the FED.

Mark Beck

Fri, 01/22/2010 - 01:28 | 201920 Anonymous
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"Debasement of the currency hurts everybody holding USDs, not just the middle class. Many would say corporate america, through outsourcing, has done as much harm to the middle class as monetary inflation".

It's done the worst harm. GATT, and the WTO have seen to gutting our Manufacturing base. Interesting both Republican, and Democrat were responsible for that. What geniuses they are.

James Goldsmith saw this coming, and points out just how this would occur in the book "The Trap". Also, a very good interview/debate with a Clintonite in 1994 on the Charlie Rose show. Here is the link if you are interested. Poor chap died shortly afterward.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5064665078176641728&ei=2s4yS-jdG...

-Mark

Fri, 01/22/2010 - 01:30 | 201923 Anonymous
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"Debasement of the currency hurts everybody holding USDs, not just the middle class. Many would say corporate america, through outsourcing, has done as much harm to the middle class as monetary inflation".

It's done the worst harm. GATT, and the WTO have seen to gutting our Manufacturing base. Interesting both Republican, and Democrat were responsible for that. What geniuses they are.

James Goldsmith saw this coming, and points out just how this would occur in the book "The Trap". Also, a very good interview/debate with a Clintonite in 1994 on the Charlie Rose show. Here is the link if you are interested. Poor chap died shortly afterward.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5064665078176641728&ei=2s4yS-jdG...

-Mark

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 22:30 | 201689 Crab Cake
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Blaming the banks is simply a pathetic attempt to deflect the public fury from their own gross and unforgivable incompetence.

When we start asking who benefits, specifically from central bank actions, is it not the banks?

Perhaps this was not specifically your point, but it's what your point brought to my mind. 

The Fed is the banks, and I find it disengenuous for the author to separate the two so offhandedly. 

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 22:40 | 201710 Cognitive Dissonance
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Crab Cake,

Thanks for the feedback. I had no point other than to warn people from making assumptions or worse, accepting at face value something simply because it feeds their world view and confirms what they wish to believe. That's the worst assumption to make.

Fri, 01/22/2010 - 02:42 | 201973 Assetman
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Very insightful comments, Crab Cake.

For some strange reason, during the height of the financial crisis in 2008, Uncle Ben made comments surrounding the passage of TARP that struck me as very intriguing.  And worth remembering for a later date.

At the time-- and I paraphrase-- Uncle Ben mentioned that we would be able to get through this crisis.  But he emphasized the it was very important that those in Congress maintain their "political will".  Obviously, this infers that at some point future decisions on saving the financial system would be very unpopular, and Congress would need to stay the course to head out of troubled waters.

Little did most of us realize at the time that Uncle Ben was orchestrating the foundation for the largest transference of wealth we have seen at our lifetimes-- with his own constituent member banks being the winner take all party-- and the rest of us set up as the ultimate losers. 

That wealth transference is still running full-bore today, under the watchful eye of a person hell bent on saving the financial system-- regardless of the collateral damage.  Saving the system is saving the Fed.  And saving the banks.  And the enourmous cost is being beared on all of us.  That same person is up for 4 more years of service. 

When Ben spoke of "politcal will", he essentially spoke of the risk of not being re-elected based on the priciple of saving the finanical system from peril.  The central question is, does it deserve to live after all the raping and pillaging pre- and post-crisis?  My vote is "NO".

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 23:03 | 201744 Anonymous
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Ray Charles can see what's going on.

The Supreme Court just let corporations cut in front of me in the line of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

As to the Fed, lets be simple and rational, and who cares who is telling me --where is the money?

If you think this is some loss of control, let's simply count it.

Thu, 01/21/2010 - 23:16 | 201758 Anonymous
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The Fed has lost control of the information stream because of the Internet, and for people to finally put two + two together - thus exposing the fraud, cheating, lying and collusion all at the helm of a complicit Congress and many administrations spanning the political parties.

Don't be a dipshit, when the Fed can change the law at will and operate outside of it, how the hell is this a nation of rule of law?

This country is on track for the corporations, by the corporations at the expense of absolutely everyone but the rich.

If you want to sit around and smoke pot and think about it in your world of denial, then get out of the way so the rest of us can save your ass!

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