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    The US Gold Market is best known as the home of gold futures trading on the COMEX in New York. The COMEX has a literal monopoly on gold futures trading volumes worldwide, but very little physical...

Scotia Mocatta Loses 60% Of Its Physical Silver In One Month To "Reclassification", Total Comex Registered Silver Now Under 30 Million Ounces

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Wed, 06/01/2011 - 18:53 | 1330686 silverstud
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When JP Morgan default on silver they will bring down the Comex.

Then we will be able to f*** over the bastards.

Holding on to my two thousand ounces of physical made up in bars, coin and silverware.

Kind regards

Ozzie Scott


Wed, 06/01/2011 - 19:16 | 1330729 Transformer
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"When JP Morgan default on silver they will bring down the Comex.

Then we will be able to f*** over the bastards."

Maybe, but I think, not likely.  There are many ways for them to get out of this. 

War- close PM exchanges- no trading, National Security, etc.

Bank and market closures- revaluation followed by nationalization of PM's, payoff in "new" revalued dollars as of day of closure.

Market wide financial collapse.  Everything closes down.  When reopens, you get paid as of the day it closed.

War-president declares silver a strategic metal, calls it all in, price determined by Fed.

Basically, they can change the rules whenever they want.  They don't lose and they never have.  If you hold paper, you can get screwed.  If you hold physical, consider carefully these possibilities.

It is important to note that if the markets do fail somehow, as laid out above.  All paper participants will likely be paid off as of the price on the day of closure.  Meanwhile, silver price rocket ride to the moon will have occurred along with likely high inflation.  Paper players will not participate.

The other option is that they lose control, their whole NWO plan fails.  Anything could happen.


Wed, 06/01/2011 - 19:21 | 1330745 JLee2027
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but all those "solutions" would end COMEX as a market. So, physical price would establish itself and paper goes away.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 01:10 | 1331554 Founders Keeper
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[Correct me if I'm mistaken...]---JLee2027

Hi JLee.

I agree of course that "physical" price discovery would break away from "paper."

However, my take on Transformer's point is don't expect the world today to look the same as the world tomorrow. Many so-called silver bugs hope to be sitting pretty in a world of $250/oz silver. Sadly, no one will be sitting very "pretty" when silver discovers $250/oz.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 03:25 | 1331627 European American
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I agree with your comment and those above. No matter what level the price of gold and silver is, my questions always comes back to "And what will be the price of a loaf of bread, and will that loaf be available?" When I hear $12.5k for gold and $500 for silver, I think, as a collective we are in deep shit, even if it's temporary 5 to 10 year period.

It's going to be dicey as we transition to the other side. Even with my few ohzee's of silver and gold, my main focus is trying to grow as much organic food as I can. I prefer the sound of munching veggies to the ringing sound of gold.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 04:33 | 1331646 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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I think along the exact same lines; Gold and Silver at those prices will mean world war. Or the collapse of the system at least - which is not really a bad thing.

However, both metals should out run inflation (continue to out run inflation). When (if) we get to the point where everyone needs to own PMs the demand spike should in theory way out run inflation and people will give nearly anything to hold PMs. There were reports in Weimar germany of people buying appartment blocks for one 0z of gold.

I tend to stay like you though, and realise I'll have to navigate my way through a world of shit; but thats not to say the wealth transfer here might be the greatest is history (as Mike Maloney says)...The thing I think he discounts is the power of guns

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:15 | 1332137 Founders Keeper
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[...but thats not to say the wealth transfer here might be the greatest is history (as Mike Maloney says)...The thing I think he discounts is the power of guns]---theMAXILOPEZpsycho

Hi Max.

I like Mike Maloney too. He likely does discount the power of guns, as you say. It's extremely rare to find an expert in economics/money who also understands geo-political factors. And even more rare to find an expert who additionally understands individual ideological factors.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:38 | 1332198 Founders Keeper
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[I prefer the sound of munching veggies to the ringing sound of gold.]---European American

Hi European American.

Well put. I have been blessed to never know hunger. However, other than fasting, I've skipped enough meals to know hungry. Past the headache hunger kind of hungry. Whereby a common whiff of food cooking throws me into an ugly impatient anxiety.

Gold rings hollow on an empty stomach.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:58 | 1334258 European American
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Only once, when I was young and out of college, did I find myself in a financial jam and have a bare fridge. Never again I said. Self induced, or was that self inflicted, fasting is one thing (every thursday) i.e. for improving ones physical, mental and emotional health, but being a somewhat lean cyclist, who hasn't lost or gained a pound since I was a young lad, I need (want) my calories! Yes indeed, nothing like the tantalizing aroma of a potentially scrumptious home cooked meal while fasting.


"Past the headache hunger kind of hungry. Whereby a common whiff of food cooking throws me into an ugly impatient anxiety." LOL


What's going to happen to all these people who have not had the pleasure of really experiencing what Hunger truly is. There's going to be some wild behavior when blood sugar dips down into the ankles of many of the "over weight" junk food addicts. It ain't gonna be a pretty picture. God help us all. ;-O

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 20:32 | 1330956 Smiddywesson
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Yup, yup, yup!  No gurantees, even if you hold PM.  There is going to be a short period during which the countries of the world are "kung foo fighting, and man those cats were so exciting."

But, like Trans said, they will rig the game to suck up all the gain, even if you hold PM.  There is no safe path, but the holders of paper at most vulnerable.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 20:39 | 1330974 Confuchius
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Never forget: Gold and Silver obey no "rules". They are "Real Money" and have been for thousands and thousands of years.

The ongoing criminal enterprise you refer to as "government" can call everything "in" and doing so should have the same success as herding cats.

No pathetic excuse for a government, such as yours, is required, in order for Ag & Au to fulfill their time honoured roles as insurance against any fiat "currency" dropping to zero value.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 20:43 | 1330979 Confuchius
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Never forget: Gold and Silver obey no "rules". They are "Real Money" and have been for thousands and thousands of years.

The ongoing criminal enterprise you refer to as "government" can call everything "in" and doing so should have the same success as herding cats.

No pathetic excuse for a government, such as yours, is required, in order for Ag & Au to fulfill their time honoured roles as insurance against any fiat "currency" dropping to zero value.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 02:42 | 1331605 Reptil
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Transformer, I think you're right. They'll control silver in North America. Silver is a strategic metal for the militairy. (and solar)

My point is though, that this confiscation will have consequences for the market the rest of the world. Any confiscation in the USA will make it the #1 investment anywhere else. Given the MO that plots are executed in phases, and wars develop with a runup, that gives a narrow window of opportunity for that small percentage of people that is well positioned with physical in a safe place, well connected (to buyers) and informed (about the correct price).

How is anyone that holds coins in their basement vault going to bring those to an international market past the TSA?

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 22:14 | 1331215 sgorem
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just where did you say you lived Ozzie? :)

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 19:33 | 1330793 bankrupt JPM bu...
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tube a day keeps the doctor away...love those phils right now, so cheap...



Wed, 06/01/2011 - 19:58 | 1330874 I_am_always_right
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Agree SGS - phils are the best ones to buy.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 20:08 | 1330886 I_am_always_right
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By the way, am a great fan of your blog site. Keep up the great work.

PS You afraid to say FUCK here or something?

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 21:09 | 1331037 double 007
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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 00:31 | 1331511 VegasRage
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Right, it's not like the crooks didn't raise margin requirements 5 times in 8 days or anything. LMAO!

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 17:59 | 1330511 goldfish1
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Spot 36.79 BTFD

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 19:35 | 1330800 CH1
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Wed, 06/01/2011 - 17:59 | 1330513 JW n FL
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but.. But.. But!!!


The Paper Market Said...


and then the others came and said that becuase the paper market said that...

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 18:03 | 1330514 tmosley
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Buy the fucking dip before they raise the premium.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 18:07 | 1330526 SilverDosed
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Perfect timing, stacking like a mofo over here, thanks for the discount guys.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 18:08 | 1330546 tmosley
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Well done.  I am going to hold off for a week and see where this goes.  

If this is a part of a broader move to show "deflation" as an excuse to do QE3, I expect it will get much MUCH worse.

We'll see.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 18:25 | 1330594 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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I just got paid, so I'm dollar cost averaging that over the next few weeks. I don't think we're going to get a lower low; mid 30s looks like great value to me. Looks like gold might bust a bigger move in the short term - but silver just seems so darn cheap, so thats where I'm going.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 18:46 | 1330666 InconvenientCou...
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save some dry power for the margin increases.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 19:18 | 1330746 augie
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+ 9.99 ect

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 18:28 | 1330599 hamurobby
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Hey TMosley, I buy "puts" every month in slv to protect my physical gold and silver, to the dollah conversion. If it goes down in frn's, I make more frn's to buy physical. Use their system against them.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 19:01 | 1330703 tmosley
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That is a good strategy, but I don't need "protection", because I can't be forced out of my bullion.  The "price" can go down all they like, all it does is allow me to buy more physical.  I don't like puts simply because they are paper, and I would rather have the physical.

Puts are great if you are in a situation where you can be forced to sell, though.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 19:37 | 1330803 Texas Gunslinger
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Not so quick, Tmosely.

You might be forced to sell if the government stops funding your research.  That's one of the dangers of being reliant on government money.  


Wed, 06/01/2011 - 19:44 | 1330831 tmosley
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lol, you prove once again that you are RNR.  You proved last time that you were Mark McGolderick.

That was an exchange that took place in a single post almost a year ago.  You expect us to believe that you were here to witness it?  Bull fucking shit.  Why don't you pick a fucking username and stick with it, you God damn coward?

Also note that then, as now, you don't understand SHIT.  I get NOTHING from the prostate cancer grant.  It is paying for M&O ONLY.  My salary is paid from the proceeds of earlier projects.

You are as stupid as you are duplicitous.  Go hang yourself, you attention seeking faggot.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 21:53 | 1331164 Texas Gunslinger
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To be honest, I just made that up. 

From your other posts, I knew you did cancer research, so I just randomly guessed that there was some government money there. If you work in a cancer lab, it's not difficult to assume that you're closely tethered to government money.    

Anyway, it seems you're actually admitting that the government partially funds your research, or some part of it.  Don't you think it's hypocritical of you to take government money, while at the same time pretending to be the world's nuttiest anarcho-capitalist?

Or is that just part of being a nut?

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 22:20 | 1331240 nmewn
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Sooo...how's the lawsuit going against your alma mater anyways? ;-)

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 22:31 | 1331266 tmosley
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Bull-fucking shit.  I have talked about STARTING a new cancer project.  The main focus of our lab is materials.

Stop backtracking, you worthless coward.  You have the same MO, the same intelligence level, the same irrational hatred of me, have the same ideas, have the same reactions, have the same dumb ideas as those other two sock puppets IN ADDITION TO bringing up old arguments I had with them.  Stop trying to fucking deny it.

Also funny that you think that one employee should have total control of the finances of their company, or that it is hypocritical to take back money that was stolen from you and try to put it toward good use.  It's also funny that you know exactly jack shit about anarchism.  A true anarchist would take any and all money from the government in order to tear it down.  

Go fuck yourself, Republicunt McGolderick.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 22:32 | 1331283 Rodent Freikorps
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He's a Moby troll.

Why do you argue with a paid whore?

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 23:16 | 1331299 tmosley
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I dislike allowing lies to go unanswered.

I also love the taste of troll blood.  Every time one of these morons gets a new user ID, God sends me 72 virgins to ruin.

Edit: Interesting, it looks like Mark Mcgoldrick was banned: http://www.zerohedge.com/users/mark-mcgoldrick

As was RNR: http://www.zerohedge.com/users/red-neck-repugnicant

No wonder this moron had to get a new user name.  Bittersweet to see bannings taking place here.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:29 | 1332169 TheTmfreak
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Be careful, you philosophers and friends, of knowledge—protect yourself from martyrdom! From suffering “for the sake of the truth”! Even from defending yourselves! That corrupts all the innocence and refined neutrality in your consciences. It makes you stubborn against objections and red rags; it dulls your minds, brutalizes you, and puts you in a daze when, in the struggle with danger, malice, suspicion, expulsion, and even dirtier consequences of your hostility, you finally have to play out your role as the defenders of truth on earth, as though “the truth” were such a harmless and clumsy character as to require defenders!


While I understand your statement and can give a nod, I think you might want to consider this piece of golden wisdom. Whenever you feel yourself getting sucked in, you should remember this.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 23:24 | 1331387 Texas Gunslinger
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!!!  HOLY COW-A-BUNGA !!!!




Don't be embarrassed!! 


You are - by far - the biggest hypocrite in the history of the internet.  A true anarcho-capitalist would be embarrassed by you!

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 23:31 | 1331406 tmosley
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I edited because it was an overstatement.  I have participated in the writing of government grants.  I haven't participated in one for about two years now.  It doesn't matter, however.  I would apply for food stamps and welfare if I qualified.  Even if I bought the goods and burned them in the street.  A true AnCap would see that the evil is in the theft of the funds, not in the distribution.  It doesn't matter where the money goes after it was stolen.  It matters that it was stolen.  I suspect this vital distinction will be lost on you, since you are a troll, after all.

The government will be torn down by the very strings it attaches to it's tax money.

I realize now why you got a new name.  The previous two were banned.  Little wonder.  Such a little attention seeking faggot.  You really ought to give it up and go back to whatever decaying liberal shithole you came from.

Edit:  Also, I'm confused.  How exactly did you see that, when I edited it out within a few seconds?  You didn't reply for almost an hour.  What, are you opening a window every three seconds or something?  Something stinks about you.  You running a script or something?  You are making me think you are paid for.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 23:47 | 1331444 Texas Gunslinger
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I have participated in the writing of government grants.....



LOL  !!!!!!!!!!

All I did was make a blind assumption that you get government funding, and suddenly we find out that tmosely gets so many government grants that he's been hired to help write the parameters.  !!!!!

LOL !!!

I find it truly hypocritical and hilarious that the loudest anti-government, pseudo anarchist on this site is actually a government whore!!! 



By the way, the only reason you edited your post is because you know I trapped you, hanging upside down in a potato sack.


Wed, 06/01/2011 - 23:48 | 1331458 tmosley
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Uhhh, no.  Why did it take you an hour to reply?  There is no way you could have known about that edit and taken that long to craft your reply.  You are using some sort of pro-tools to catch edits.  That is, you are a hired troll.  You were RNR, and you were Mark Mcgoldrick.  You have been banned TWICE, and are now back with a new username.

Congratulations, you are now outed.

Time for a new username.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 00:05 | 1331479 Hephasteus
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"Congratulations, you are now outed."

WTF he was outed on his 3rd post like a month ago.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 08:06 | 1331779 tmosley
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He was outed as a troll back then.  But he could have been some kid from 4chan back then.  THen he slowly revealed that he was in fact several of these other old, BANNED posters, and now he has revealed that he has scripts that capture every edit that is made on selected threads, something that only a paid operative would have.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 23:55 | 1331469 Rynak
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Texas gunslinger, aka fed supporter, zing, The Axe, wirtschaftswunder, WorthlessShaftUnder, long juan silver, William the Bastard.... get a new username already...... tmosley's obsession with replying to idiots like you may be annoying, but it still is no match for the pointless waste of screenspace you are creating.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 00:01 | 1331477 tmosley
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I should add that your gleeful ad hominem is the equivalent of calling a slave a hypocrite for taking food from his master--food that the slave himself grew, or was grown by slaves like him--while wanting to be free, and writing at great length how freedom would work, and how as a free man he would not immediately go mad and rape da wite womenz, or whatever foolish meme is perpetuated by those who would keep him in bondage forever.

Your own hypocrisy is lost on you, of course.  Your pro-tools can't make you look at yourself for what you are--an Uncle Tom.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 01:50 | 1331575 bruinjoe93
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Texas, leave God and his mother out of this. 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 05:06 | 1331667 Hephasteus
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Just don't ask to see his birth certificate. Photoshop hadn't been invented yet.

Who is the father of Joseph?

MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 01:37 | 1331507 Texas Gunslinger
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A true AnCap would see that the evil is in the theft of the funds, not in the distribution.  It doesn't matter where the money goes after it was stolen.....

Yeah, right.  So all that matters is the tax, not the TARP?  Or foodstamps? Or the myriad of other programs that you - and everyone at ZH - rant about everyday? The right hand is evil, but the left hand is ok?  lol.  idiot. 

Get a fucking clue. In addition to being an anti-government hypocrite/whore, you have absolutely no idea what the fuck you're talking about.  You might as well say that the problem is only the politician, not the thieving plutocrats...fuck Geithner, but Blankfein's ok in your book, right?  You are an embarrassment to anarchists everywhere.

I would apply for food stamps and welfare if I qualified....

ok, so you've just admitted that you're no different than all the lazy, jobless parasites who sit on their couch and eat Cheetos every day while pocketing government handouts.  Of course, that's not so surprising now that we know your penchant for government money.


Incredible. The more you talk, the more you reveal, the more ridiculous you become, cliff.



Thu, 06/02/2011 - 03:01 | 1331614 Bay of Pigs
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Hey my religious brother Slinger....cut him some slack.

It's hard for my bro Tmos to keep track of 20-30 trollers here on ZH. 


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