Sean Egan Takes On The SEC's Rating Cronyism

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Tue, 08/25/2009 - 16:54 | 48001 Mos
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Way too logical for the SEC to actually do anything about this.  They only operate in the realm of lies, corruption, stupidity, and incompetence.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 16:57 | 48007 pigpen
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Tyler, will you make some t-shirts emblazoned with the following:

"Dear ____ - continue abusing the public's increasingly declining patience with your lack of integrity and inability to prosecute those at fault for the current crisis at your own peril." - Tyler Durden

I will take 5 size tall xxl

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 18:05 | 48096 VegasBD
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Think you got a good idea there. Logo on front, that line on the back. Id take one.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 18:22 | 48113 Anonymous
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The shirt won't be necessary.

As we know, the pump monkeys can't stave off crashes (they never have been able to, and they never will).

Impatience with the SEC wanes in a bull market. But wait until the bear comes back and rips the face off mom-and-pop investors across the country.

Then watch what happens to patience with the SEC...

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 08:27 | 48264 overpath (not verified)
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, crossing the street accident but it surely is a joy to read the ruling....

good articles; good articles 4 slow news day ..http://www..
hat tip: finance news & finance opinions

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:01 | 48014 gmrpeabody
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A couple of XXL reg, plz.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:02 | 48016 Project Mayhem
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Good letter

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:08 | 48027 Anonymous
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thank you sean. thank you.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:12 | 48030 Anonymous
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and please offer 2 pack bumper stickers, my deflated net worth doesn't allow 10 packs :(

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:14 | 48031 avatar
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my shrunken net worth does not allow me to purchase 10 packs of bumper stickers, but I could reach into my pocket to buy 2! If only I could....

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:24 | 48041 AN0NYM0US
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Interesting discussion from earlier today with Simon Johnson (Baseline Scenario) discussing Bernanke's appt.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:27 | 48044 OrganicGeorge
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I'm gona enjoy this ride.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:31 | 48049 Bubby BankenStein
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Beneficent Berkshire Hathaway should dump holdings of MCO.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 18:32 | 48122 deadhead
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Buffett did dump MCO

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:39 | 48060 Anonymous
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Thanks for sharing this. It is unbelievably disgraceful & appalling to me that these so-called "rating" agencies are even allowed to operate at this point. What an absolute crock of BS that is.

And in terms of all the FED bailout/funding/securitization programs primarily directed at WS's finest thieves, I find it fascinatingly disgusting that my own mother (a retiree with very little savings) was a victim of the aforementioned Reserve Primary Fund's sub $1 debacle. And guess what? She still has only received 90 cents on the dollar, an entire year later! It was a f'in money market fund for Lord's sake! I mean, AIG starts cracking, and GS gets $13B in a flash. Why the f*ck hasn't someone done something to pay back my mum?!?!?!

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 20:42 | 48255 Anonymous
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because your mum is not sliding payola under the

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:44 | 48069 Anonymous
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This issue really does not need to be addressed.

The genius of the current financial system is that any compromise of sound fundamental practices can be countered by the issuance of more Treasury debt, lowering the Fed target rate, quantitative easing, and other backstopping programs.

All failures in practice and judgment need never be realized.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:47 | 48071 AN0NYM0US
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does anyone have a barf bag


even CalculatedRisk has jumped on the Bernanke band wagon according to this WSJ article and his Blog

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 18:06 | 48099 VegasBD
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Calculated Risk is all of a sudden a Bull lately. Specially on housing. Something changed over there. Anyone else notice that? I dont like stepping out of my doom and gloom bubble. heheheh

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 19:02 | 48156 Anonymous
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being Bullish - no problem with that - but endorsing the Fed and Bernanke ... that's a whole different issue

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 21:21 | 48287 capitalisa
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Hasn't been the same at CR since Tanta died :(

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:49 | 48074 passive_lurker
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Who's the bigger fool:  the bankers that repackage the garbage, the ratings agencies that slap AAA on them, or the investors that will be buying them?

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:54 | 48081 lizzy36
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Easy answer: the u.s taxpayer who is being bent over in perpetuity to fund the repackaging of the garabage.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 17:54 | 48082 AN0NYM0US
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Someone posted earlier about Rosenberg and his letter today about  the flim flam of estimates and revised estimates and beating estimates.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 21:47 | 48312 whacked
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You missed a prime fool, the one that sold them knowing full well that they were garbage and then insured against them.


That gorilla should be sued ... in my dreams anyway.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 18:19 | 48111 Project Mayhem
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Even though it's 55 days after June 30, 2009, the FDIC still hasn't released their Q2 report.


Tue, 08/25/2009 - 18:33 | 48123 deadhead
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i believe Thursday the 27 is the day.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 18:47 | 48133 Project Mayhem
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Thanks.  Looks like they are going for 57 days instead of 55.   The suspense is killing me.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 18:49 | 48136 Miles Kendig
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The SEC has but one job.  It isn't a regulatory or consumer protection agency.  It  job is to simply:






Tue, 08/25/2009 - 21:46 | 48309 straightershooter
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More like




Tue, 08/25/2009 - 18:52 | 48142 Anonymous
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Look, the only problem with credit ratings is that government rules require their use. Get rid of those rules and let the buyer beware. Sorry folks, investors need to take responsibility for their decisions. They can use ratings or not in their decision process. Rating agencies will get it wrong again in the future - just like lots of investors will frequently be on the wrong side of the market -- just a bunch of fallible humans. You can change the rating agency compensation system, and they still will not get it right.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 20:47 | 48261 Anonymous
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correct - because their job is not to render
professional opinion but to collect fees....

that may sound cynical but that is precisely the
purpose of their trade....

if they were required to assume some kind of responsibility
for their decisions or suffer consequences for
poor assessments then matters might change....

however, the caveat emptor solution is the most
rigorous provided moral hazard has not been
compromized by backstops, bailouts, and cronyism

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 18:52 | 48143 KevinB
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When the shite was hitting the fan last year, I posted something on Dealbreaker (before that site degenerated into the scatalogical sophomoric idiot fest it is now) saying, in effect, "What about the ratings agencies? They rated all this crap AAA. Don't they share some of the blame?", for which I was chastised in impolite and anatomically impossible terms. Glad to see the more intelligent posters here agree with me.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 18:55 | 48147 SWRichmond
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The mentioned Kool-Aid ratings agencies have been captured, by virtue of their having been outed in episode 1.  Notice no investigations, prosecutions, etc?  "Gitmo, or AAA.  Pick one."

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 19:24 | 48184 Anonymous
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Laws, rules and regulation are designed to prevent specific problems and harm.

The constant attack on the rules and the government by the so-called "right"--including may I add judges of the same political persuasions who believe their job is to NOT enforce rules they disagree with, or in my experience to only enforce rules when it happens to benefit their friends-- have made it far more difficult for the SEC and other agencies far more difficult.

Not to say the SEC and other regulators have done such a great job, as Mr. Durden points out, but at the moment we've starved the watchdogs, told them the fences are not appropriately placed and so should not be enforced, and now are blaming the watch dogs when the theives have climbed the fences and stolen the goods.

Not so great for the country when the (first Reagan) and then recently VP Cheney claims the executive branch should not have to follow such hallowed rules such as Constitution Article 1, Section 8 which reads in part:

"Section 8: The Congress shall have power
To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;


To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
Many powers of Congress have been interpreted broadly. Most notably, the Taxing and Spending, Interstate Commerce, and Necessary and Proper Clauses have been deemed to grant expansive powers to Congress."

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 20:58 | 48269 Anonymous
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"Deemed" but this doesn't mean it is right.

The Commerce Clause and other parts of he constitution have been stretched so loose now by the progressives, it has skewed the separation of the powers and given us the corruption we have today. This loosening by the progressives is now open to abuse by both the right and the left. Just look at the DEA and these crazy bailouts...

The government is just another monopoly out for its own interests and the special interest.

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 08:27 | 48260 overpath (not verified)
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And in terms of all the FED bailout/funding/securitization programs primarily directed at WS's finest thieves,

good articles; good articles 4 slow news day ..http://www..
hat tip: finance news & finance opinions

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 23:12 | 48390 Anonymous
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I doubt that Elizabeth Murphy knows or cares who Sean Egan is.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 23:37 | 48410 glenlloyd
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The point is clear, however, the letter needs to be proofed and could be improved.

Unfortunately nothing will likely come of it...

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 00:13 | 48431 Fish Gone Bad
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For all those brazen enough, send Elizabeth a postcard (not a letter).

Elizabeth M. Murphy, Secretary
Securities and Exchange Commision
100 F Street, NE, Washington, DC  20549

Dear Ms. Murphy, I have always wondered what it was like to have no integrity.  Perhaps the March of Dimes can help you find a spine so you can finally do your job.


Taxpayer #xxx-xx-xxxx

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 14:03 | 48900 channel_zero
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Let me get this straight.  The newspeak chanted by most active market participants is "Big government and all its messing about in markets is bad."  So, +/- 25 years ago, this dream of yours slowly becomes a reality.  Regulators like the SEC are systematically starved.There are a few other, ohh like the regulator that stood watch over AIG...

Today, you want your small government AND powerful regulators?  The contradiction is untenable.  Or maybe it's the case your version of 'small government' means funding your pet projects.

You want stronger regulatory agencies?  Well, who's gonna pay for them? You?



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