SEC Releases Final Flash Crash Report - Waddell And Reed Blamed As Selling Catalyst

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Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:37 | 618533 quasimodo
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Phew! Glad they have that problem taken care of.

Pass me the pipe Doc

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:19 | 618809 midtowng
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So, no solutions? No changes? Nothing done to reassure retail investors?

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 22:09 | 620119 euclidean
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No need to, there's nothing wrong here. So move along people. Boy am I looking forward to the SPX geting back to 1500 and USD back to $1.00 on the back of some good ol' home grown American honesty. There is no conspiracy that complicit incompetence can't make a false pretense of. Onwards and upwards!

The score so far - Congress 12 Sheeple 0. We'll call this half time.

HFS = high frequency sarcasm <off>


Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:43 | 618547 Bam_Man
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Waddell and Reed kidnapped the Lindbergh baby.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:06 | 618620 faustian bargain
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I heard that Waddell and Reed demolished the WTC. Also they caused the Eyjafjallajokull eruption.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:40 | 618708 unwashedmass
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busy guys. i thought they took out kennedy.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:46 | 618727 Apocalicious
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Waddell & Reed is responsible for global warming.

Mon, 10/04/2010 - 20:01 | 624723 sethco
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They killed Kennedy

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:43 | 618721 goldmiddelfinger
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For once Bush gets a break

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:47 | 618728 Apocalicious
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Waddell & Reed got Bush elected.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:55 | 618743 knukles
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And now we find that there really is no Waddell and Reed, but for a shell corporation established at yesteryear's Bilderberg conference and chartered under the auspices of the Council on Foreign Relations.


Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:52 | 618919 sgt_doom
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Hell, faustian, Waddell and Reed are the very culprits who gave that frigging Icelandic volcano it's screwy name.

(Actually, I speak a bit of Icelandic and managed to pick up a babe in a bar as I was the only guy there who could pronounce it!)

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:43 | 618548 plocequ1
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I have a theory. Being that this market is so fake, Maybe the Dow isn't really green. Maybe it's red, But it's showing green. Maybe the index is not real.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:46 | 618556 Tyler Durden
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Amusingly, that is precisely what happened in March 2007 when the Dow saw a delayed reindexation and was really down 600 points instead of just 300. Since you may not have been on a trading desk that day, the panic that ensued the second the latency caught up was a sight to behold.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:32 | 618673 traderjoe
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Your final comment in the story is the money shot. By blaming the Flash Crash on something so simple as a large (but not out-sized) sell order, they've placed it well within the realm of an any day possibility. Hell, it perhaps would have been better if they blamed it on aliens (do they really only mess with nukes?) or a rare solar flare (Art Cashin tracks the planets).

If all it takes to send the Dow down 1,000 points is a 75k e-mini contract sell order, well how many hundreds/thousands of players are capable of that sort of order? What 10% margin (?) - maybe a $500 million commitment? Governments (terrorists?), hedge funds, mutual funds, etc., etc. Anyone could take the market down. Send out an e-mail to all e*trade customers to sell one contract at 10:01 AM on Monday, becomes insta-flash crash. 

Once again, in the attempt to hide the truth they distance themselves from a solution and guarantee the eventual reset will be that much more abrupt. 

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:44 | 619072 Xedus129
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If thats true, one could potentially make a TON of money...  Sell, then short the living daylights out of the market and watch the fireworks.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:01 | 618757 Kayman
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Maybe we're all color blind now...

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 18:11 | 619542 morkov
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trading points are the new devaluation??

Sat, 10/02/2010 - 17:10 | 621253 ZeroPower
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"Since you may not have been on a trading desk that day, the panic that ensued the second the latency caught up was a sight to behold."



Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:44 | 618550 Bruno the Bear
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Just don't do it real, real fast and you are good to go.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:06 | 618964 MarketTruth
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Here is an idea:

GS, JPM and many others trade a large volume of stock at the same time. Think of it like a DOS attack on a website server. Massive shorts and massive longs and if you play it right, then free money for all participants.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:44 | 618553 Fidel Sarcastro
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Gimme a f*cking break!  75,000 contracts was only about 2.5 to 4% of the TOTAL volume before the crash.  Volume was already good in the ES.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:55 | 618589 -1Delta
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I pretty sure i sold 50,000 on the ES two days before the crash- thank god im not being blamed- phew!

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:24 | 618660 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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About that....

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:26 | 618664 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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About that....

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:45 | 618554 HarryWanger
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Thank god that's over with. Fire up those algos and let's get this party started again!

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:57 | 618594 Spalding_Smailes
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Can you help me move some of the deck chairs ....

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:42 | 618720 frankTHE COIN
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Cant right now, the band needs me acapella.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:45 | 618555 Dixie Normous
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I know for a fact it wasn't WDR.


Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:51 | 618577 HelluvaEngineer
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Careful - you don't want to get "Chumba'd"

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:41 | 618711 Bob
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Gitmo, you think?

Sat, 10/02/2010 - 17:26 | 621283 ZeroPower
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Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:49 | 618567 SheepDog-One
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Damn you Waddel and Reid damn youuuuuuuuuuuu!!!

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:49 | 618569 medbow
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w&r were on the grassy knoll

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:51 | 618578 turds in the pu...
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yeah and e-minis ≈ boxcutters

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:55 | 618590 Dr. No
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No;  W&R are Lee Harvey O.  The second gunman on the grassy knoll was never found - and nobody wanted to find him.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:59 | 619136 Gwynplaine (not verified)
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I was reading a summary of this story over on Marketwatch.   The key quote they featured from the SEC report was "There is no smoking gun." 

Well, I feel more than a little cheated.  I expected at least some "magic bullet" theory.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:49 | 618570 Cecil Rhodes
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Who, that little guy? I wouldn't worry about that little guy...

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:57 | 618595 Quinvarius
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An underlying problem to our new system is that 12-15 people have all the US wealth concentrated beneath them.  They didn't earn it.  They stole it.  But, they can't make a move without bring down a company, a market, or even a country.  JPM's coal trades and silver trades are a prime example.  They don't even understand how huge they are.  When they get involved in a market, they end up wearing it around like raccoon with its' head stuck in a peanut butter jar.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:21 | 618655 MsCreant
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Add in that they set the computers on auto pilot so they can go out and play.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:04 | 618767 Kayman
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Behind every great fortune is a great time...

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:57 | 618597 chinaboy
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Waddell and Reed certainly is NOT responsible for mini crashes we have experienced on daily basis.

If the SEC assigns the blame wrong, it helps the real culprit under the cover and keep causing problems.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:57 | 618598 Alex Ljungberg
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This is just a diversion.

I don't think it's a coincidence that Sanders agreed to a watered down version of the Audit the Fed bill on that same day:

The Fed or its operatives sent a message that they did want to be messed with.

Why hasn't this connection been investigated thoroughly?

What did "Deep Throat" say during the investigation into Watergate: "Follow the money?"

Where are Woodward and Bernstein when we need them?


Fri, 10/01/2010 - 12:58 | 618599 Milton Waddams
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Shhhhh... don't tell anyone that when agenda (asset re-inflation) takes precedent over price discovery you get wild volatility, especially when the former steps aside to determine if it is all clear to return to the latter. Fixed market versus free market. The ruse of the machines.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:00 | 618604 Buttcathead
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I aint buy'n Nuttin.  It's all fake.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:50 | 618740 mule65
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I was never real.  Ever.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:00 | 618606 Bearsharktopus
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Kahnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn....... oops I mean Waddel and Reidddddddddd

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:01 | 618608 cswjr
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How cathartic.  I was beginning to doubt our shadowy overlords, but now my full faith [and credit] has been reinvigorated.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 13:03 | 618614 Fidel Sarcastro
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Is this for real? "At the same time, HFTs traded nearly 140,000 E-Mini contracts or over 33% of the total trading volume."

140k is not even close to 33% of the total daily trading volume.  These people are idiots.

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