"Secret Fed loans" that were not so secret

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Sun, 05/29/2011 - 13:07 | 1320702 aerial view
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Yes, of course we believe you Mr. Altig

The Fed is always open and transparent

The Fed is a government institution

The Fed treats all banks equally

The Fed has engineered a great recovery



Sun, 05/29/2011 - 12:30 | 1320652 anony
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That you are suprised by the stealth bullshit that has and is still going on (even with this 'surprise', you are only seeing the tip of the iceberg) is testament to nothing but your naivete.

To think that your government is telling you anywhere near all that is happening is one reason that this government needs dismantled, if not thru vote than by a revolution.

Tear it down.  Right down to the foundation and start over. But allowing for a bust up of the country into at least a dozen regions that have their own elected representatives.  States rights have been subsumed and practically made obsolete because of the heavy hand of the jews of Wall street, Fleet Street, Israel, and the control they exercise over our financial destiny.

Get rid of most of them, see how fast things change for the better for everyone.

Substitute the names Corleone, Capone, Brazzi, and Siciliano for Greenspan, Bernanke, Geithner, and Blankfein and see how fast profiling works.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 13:42 | 1320513 Downtoolong
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mortgage-backed securities issued or fully guaranteed by federal agencies…

A pile of shit wrapped in a fancy crust of fed guarantees is still a shit pie.

With the special 'single-tranche' RPs announced today, dealers have the option to pledge either mortgage-backed securities..

So, the Fed gives the PD’s hard cash for shit which they can then go out and invest in more shit at a Fed guaranteed spread.

And, why didn’t we all take notice of this heavily advertised event (sarcasm)? We were probably all too busy watching the equity in our homes evaporate, our retirement funds getting wiped out, our friends and neighbors losing their jobs and businesses, and our entire economy falling into an abyss, while our government sat stunned and clueless of what to do about it. This we dealt with day in and day out. Yet somehow, in their infinite wisdom, the Fed and its Wall Street masters decided that the details of this one lending action, this common insignificant event (as they like to call it now) would have been just too much for all of us to bear. We wouldn’t have been able to handle this truth.

I’ll tell you what I could have handled then, what would have made my life a whole lot easier at the time; a free zero interest loan to invest in anything I wanted with a guaranteed yield backed by the U.S. Government. That’s something I could have handled just fine.  I would have even put up my real house as collateral for the loan instead of some bogus mortgage backed security which was probably overrated by S&P in the first place and which Goldman probably borrowed from some poor unsuspecting client that didn’t have access to this special facility. And if it had happened this way instead, I wouldn’t have hidden it from anyone. I would have gone running down the streets telling everyone about the sweetest deal of my life.



Sat, 05/28/2011 - 23:03 | 1320188 Ted K
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I'd like to see this cocksucker Altig answer 1 question: "Do you think giving minorities a 0.01% payday loan is stimulative to the economy??? It's a short-term loan for poor minorities and white trash. You ready to sign on to that dickweed??? Oh!!! I forgot!!!! The 0.01% is only 'stimulative' if your last name is Goldberg, Oppenheimer or Rabinowitz. Sorry, how silly of me to forget the rules chief"

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 22:39 | 1320174 Ted K
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How many strip club comps does Altig get from Blankfein for this??? Isn't this kind of like Kim Kardashian saying "I wasn't a whore in that video. At no time during taping was money being exchanged",  ??

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 22:14 | 1320147 ThirdCoastSurfer
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Imagine you arrive at work one day to discover that your mark-to-market is junk but you can borrow at .01% and invest in Thrifty Rental Car at $1 per share along with all the rest in a broad new investment portfolio distinct and separate from the junk and within a little more than a year Thrifty would be trading at $87! 

The headlines commonly blame subprime borrowers for the crisis because they overextended their credit and/or lost their somewhat dubious source of income when things went south. However, it was also common practice for many in the investment community to borrow at incredibly high leverage.  

My brother works at a very prominent private REIT that openly bragged that they were able to buy things like nursing homes and  student housing with $3 of principal for every $100 borrowed. They were not unique. As a result, and not surprisingly,  the acquisition prices for these properties skyrocketed - and so did the cost of rent.  Additionally, it is important to understand that properties are not purchased by single entities but groups. Blackstone and KKR are both partners and competitors. 

One small poor example: KKR, Blackstone, Silver Lake Partners, Bain Capital, Providence Equity Partners and TPG on the $11.3 billion leverage buyout for their purchase of SunGard Data Systems in late 2005. 

Imagine what it takes to manage all the interests of just this single purchase! The lawyers, accountants and analysts just to cross verify each partners share. These people all know each other. They all know all the right people. You can't imagine the number of high priced uber successful people people who's ass would have been handed to them in a bag if the bailout had not come to the rescue. 

The question should not be did it happen and why, but what obligation for the fact should be expected. 

I guess subprime borrowers continue to live in houses that cannot be foreclosed on and thus pay no cost but actually benefit from their misfortune but it's doubtful they are smart enough or determined to use the opportunity to create something sustainable. Those in finance however were KEPT whole and thus have or will benefit greatly from a position that did not require a step back to take two forward. 

The whole reason this grand experiment is doomed to failure then is that all these great minds, all these best and brightest, see what happened as a right, as a privilege and not as an obligation or a debt to society failing to understand that creative destruction is a necessity that cannot be subverted. 

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 21:52 | 1320102 Everybodys All ...
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You work for the FED ... what else would you say other than it's all gooooood.  In other news ... Greece's Papandreou vows to enact austerity programs. I believe both of you fellas are liars.

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 21:53 | 1320124 AmCockerSpaniel
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Never forget just who's money it is.

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 20:48 | 1320046 Coldfire
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"Dave Altig" is remarkably human. For a lizard.

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 18:51 | 1319914 boeing747
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"I'm afraid if we release the information of who received bail out money, then no body will borrow from us" a Fed guy said in Congress.

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 16:30 | 1319690 MrBinkeyWhat
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Me too!!! I want a .01% loan. Or better still... I want to be a "preferred dealer" for the next POMO. Just once.  Please....

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 15:03 | 1319585 lunaticfringe
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Can I haz .01% loan?

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 21:48 | 1320118 AmCockerSpaniel
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I've got more seniority than you..... So; I get mine first, and at 0.010001%

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 15:04 | 1319583 AurorusBorealus
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With all due respect to Mr. Altig, I do not believe that his efforts to paint the fed's actions in the best possible light will go over very well here on zerohedge.  I have noticed the Fed becoming much more chatty with the prols these days though.  One request, could I get $30 billion from the fed at .01% or how about .05%?  I am vital to the economy in that I do nothing, just like bankers.

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 17:16 | 1319766 blunderdog
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Let's don't be unrealistic.  A $30 billion loan even for the punitively high interest rate of 2% would be good enough, don't you think?

(Personally, I'll take any billion dollar loan at any interest rate the Fed wants to offer me.)

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 21:54 | 1320122 AmCockerSpaniel
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Lets be real here. It is usual for all bidders to get the same best deal, or 0.01%

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 13:17 | 1319432 What_Me_Worry
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"I work for the Fed, so obviously I am completely objective in my opinions.  Further, it is no secret that we help out foreigners with billions in cash/weapons one minute and then declare war on them the next.  See Saddam, OBL and Libya."

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 12:47 | 1319371 JW n FL
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Top U.S. Lobbying Banks Got Biggest Bailouts

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 12:50 | 1319378 JW n FL
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the banks that got these .01% loans.. how much or where were they on the list of top lobby dollar suppliers?

I am going to guess and say pretty high up.. and even though the Bank itself may not look like a big bank.. which big bank owned the stock or which shareholder / shareholders son / daughter..

its like this see... there is a big club, seeee... and you aint fucking in it seeeeee?

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 12:41 | 1319366 Seasmoke
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wonder what that sellout Judd Gregg has to say about this

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 12:12 | 1319299 hurdygurdypauli...
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Ya, @ bolweevil, because you KNEW what TAF meant and read the news release and knew where the funds were going!  *laughs* .  But yes you should really believe this guy because he can show you, on 3 separate pages (yes 3 separate pages!) where those loans went, so we all just should have known!  It wasn't secret, it was all in plain view, right?!

Besides, we all trust that the only motives of the Fed are to promote financial stability (prop up banks) even as the economy collapses at its feet.  After all, it ain't their money they are playing with.

Yes, the Fed was very "open" about it.  All you had to do was look on the website... silly people!   it was there, albeit without any details at all...

Bernanke professes he was unaware... and so it wasn't released with the rest of his disclosure.  And where was this money going?  Ah yes, to prop up banks and throw good money after bad, even if they were European.  But it's OK!  They were using the same shitty mortgages they were trying to offload in the hot potato pass off game near the end, as securities! 

Shitty?  How can they be shitty when they were so highly regarded by S&P?  It was garbage, but triple A garbage!  Such wonderful excrement that the Fed bought a ton of  that toxic slime.    But its OK, because it wasn't their money they were playing with.

And, we wouldn't want any of these crooked banks or banksters to  fail would we?  They are, after all, too big for their britches and needed something to show for it in case it all got investigated and they had to pass the smell test.  (even if it was to see how bad the shit smelled...when lightly sniffed in Basel) and I am sure they didn't make money on it...right?  No one actually made money  hand over foot with loans that were supposed to free up the market ...  practically interest free loans they were supposed to be lending with? 

The taxpayers were never in jeopardy!  hell no!  And look where we are now?  The banks are all cozy and back to giving bonuses.  (They gave bonuses back then too, but called them deferred, because once this came out they didn't want to look "bad."  HAH!) And the economy is back on track right?  OOOOOOOPS!

Wait... look who the biggest American bank holder of those loans is... C'mon... take a guess!  Yes... it was the Squid itself.  But all loans extended under the TAF were "fully collateralized" and repaid... so who gives a crap if they propped up banks that should have failed!  it was all worth it in the end!  HALLELUJAH!

Yep the bad times are over folks.  None of this was secret as they played it all out right in front of you and you said thank you... That lil bit of debt isn't a problem at all.  And why worry when you have the Fed looking after you all so well?

This Fed guy is saying nothing here, move along ... OK if you say so ...  bahhhhhh!

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 11:01 | 1319217 disabledvet
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I sense "Warren Buffet moment part II" coming.  I get the feeling because Goldman has suddenly said "here's your billions, Warren."  The imprecise title of this my next attempt of a "Blockbuster" is "Europe On Its Knees."  At some point he really will be "Buffet, Inc." and "simply be the bank."  Right now all he needs to add is a private energy company to his private railroad.  Conoco/Phillips still acts like a dud though but it's stock price has certainly recovered dramatically.  He probably could have bought it in 2009 (General Electric?) but now is certainly challenging!  I'm still a far bigger fan of "the insurgents" and of course we shall see about "The Man" (also known as Exxon/Mobil) which bet the farm on natural gas/timed its purchase perfectly--and has been running its prize..."in a non-growth oriented fashion" (dp? (short for diplomatic)) for some time.

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 10:48 | 1319199 Moe Howard
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Why are they giving American assets to non-American banks?

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 13:39 | 1319467 A_MacLaren
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The global fiat banking cabal don't believe in borders.  Borders are arbitrary political divisions helping to sustain the divide and conquer, us vs them meme, a handy diversionary tactic. 

The Fed, as First Fiatista, pumped liquidity to all cabalistas, either directly or indirectly through other central banksters to support the extractionistic Ponzi, and keep it from failing.

In essence, they placed a blocking board in the domino fall path.


Sat, 05/28/2011 - 10:30 | 1319183 Imminent Crucible
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I have to choose between the objectivity of bloomberg.com and the full faith and credit of the Atlanta Counterfeit Bank?  Is there a Door #3?

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 12:53 | 1319390 JW n FL
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it is so hard to find where the money went.. and then even of you found it.. you would need to sift thru it all to see where it went...


why would you wanna do all that work when you can bitch about it and make yourself feel better!


your feelings can not be that wrong! all those poor people spending all that welfare money while you sit around not looking for information.. feeling this way or that..


http://goo.gl/TMl74   $15 Trillion in Loans


$16 Trillion dollars.. and who it was given too.. not on fucking penny went to welfare / food stamps and / or government workers.

Guess who back stops all $16 Trillion? who pays for any default(s)? who negotiated the terms?

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 14:28 | 1319535 rocker
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How quick we forget what really matters.

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 10:17 | 1319175 Bolweevil
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So Bloomberg is sensastionalist? Thanks RC Chris Dave Altig Whalen. (slow weekend)

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 12:50 | 1319385 JW n FL
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by Bolweevil
on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 10:17


So Bloomberg is sensastionalist? Thanks RC Chris Dave Altig Whalen. (slow weekend)


Go Team Republican!! YAY!!! Austerity agains the POOR!!! YAY!!!!

http://goo.gl/FnxBZ  Treasury Direct $14 Trillion Debt


http://goo.gl/TMl74   $15 Trillion in Loans


http://goo.gl/EXzal  ='s $29T *** (Iran says $31 trillion)


$16 Trillion dollars.. and who it was given too.. not on fucking penny went to welfare / food stamps and / or government workers.

Guess who back stops all $16 Trillion? who pays for any default(s)? who negotiated the terms?


Sat, 05/28/2011 - 23:23 | 1320201 Bolweevil
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Ask and ye shall receive.

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 13:59 | 1319497 rocker
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+1  JW   You and ZH rule.

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 10:14 | 1319170 max2205
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By Dave Altig
senior vice president and research director at the Atlanta Fed


Sat, 05/28/2011 - 10:29 | 1319185 IdioTsincracY
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Fuck the Oligarchs ... the Elites ... the FED, the Banksters, the Financial moguls ... FUCK THEM ALL!!!

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 16:24 | 1319689 MrBinkeyWhat
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Hi Guy! You must be some kind of "-troll". See you at Survivalblog, and LRC.com ;-)

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 09:53 | 1319161 Urban Redneck
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Scandalous headlines sell ad space, and Bloomberg has some legal bills to pay after fighting the FED all the way to the Supreme Court just to get the documents in the first place.  It's not nice, or thorough journalism.  However,by fighting Bloomberg all the way to the Supreme Court over the details, the FED wasn't being nice, or disclosing information for which there was legitimate public accountability concern.  

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 12:06 | 1319311 hurdygurdypauli...
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Erm, rather then supply information, they did a document dump.  Nah, nothing to hide there.  (Goldman did the same to the SEC)



Sat, 05/28/2011 - 12:47 | 1319372 Urban Redneck
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Perhaps I've just become too accustomed to lawyers and bankers BS.  But if the average STOMO rate was above the Fed Funds rate (per the chart), then the rate isn't relevant to anything except generating buzz and selling add space.  Bllomberg's little trolls are just returning the Fed's childishness tit-for-tat. 

Unlike they fact that that the banks needed $100 billion MORE liquidity then the dumb asses on Capitol Hill responsible for oversight were aware of- even though it was on the Fed's website.  If elected officials can't keep track of little things- like loaning (repoing) $100 billion over a couple months, then they should be fired and their salaries and pensions repo'd.

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 13:53 | 1319492 rocker
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On Friday Bloomberg reported that the N.Y. Fed did not supply all the info. They said they found more holes than answers. When they asked the N.Y. Fed they shrugged their shoulders at them again, meaning they will not comply.

So... Who runs our Nation ???  Hey, I hear some suspicious noise inside the FED. Supreme Court says break down the doors. LOL 

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 14:28 | 1319536 Urban Redneck
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Do you have a link to the article - I can't find it on Bloomberg or Google?

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 06:09 | 1320359 Richard Chesler
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So bankster theft and corruption has been out in the open for quite some time now. What's your point?


Sun, 05/29/2011 - 14:43 | 1320848 Urban Redneck
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All war is based on deception... If ignorant both of your enemy and yourself, you are certain to be in peril.

For Bloomberg to allege the that Fed withheld documents from a court ordered release is actually rather serious- if they did make the allegation and provided evidence to support it, which is uncertain at this point. 

Anybody can become angry - that is easy, but to be angry with the right person and to the right degree and at the right time and for the right purpose, and in the right way - that is not within everybody's power and is not easy.

I've looked twice in two places and can't find the article mentioned, either the acusation needs to be substantiated or withdrawn.

There are horrible people who, instead of solving a problem, tangle it up and make it harder to solve for anyone who wants to deal with it. Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.

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