Silver Plunges On China Slowdown Concerns, Dollar Short Covering

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Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:22 | 1226203 godzila
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ouch.... Fat finger ?

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:31 | 1226268 bankrupt JPM bu...
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look at my diagram ;)

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:39 | 1226301 Silver Shield
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These are the days I am glad I am 100% physical.


Just checked my stack... it looks the same to me.

Let’s see how long this bullshit lasts… We had a full recovery by Thursday last week.

Watch physical silver dry up or premiums to skyrocket… Paper market is not the real market.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:41 | 1226324 brian downunder
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And just when you think you've had enough, You change your mind, throw you hands in the air and ride the roller coaster all over again. That's exhilaration...

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 21:30 | 1226780 nope-1004
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That's not a graph of falling silver, that's a graph of growing government desperation.  Volatility will pick up as the fiat regimes topple... a financial war is no different than a ground war.  Before final victory, things get VERY desperate and actions VERY pronounced.

At any rate, I appreciate the excellent re-entry point.


Sun, 05/01/2011 - 21:36 | 1226803 narapoiddyslexia
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Agreed. Manipulation, period. I just bought some more pre-64 US Franklin halfs. 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:44 | 1228127 baby_BLYTHE
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me 2. BTFD!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 04:07 | 1228509 The Navigator
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Damn - I just spent $600 this weekend on ebay junk silver at $46/oz.

Too bad my average cost just went up from $16/oz to $16.000001/oz - the whole trick to dollar cost averaging and starting in 2007.

Bring it on Bitchez - 'cus I'll keep buying. Bring it Fucking On. 'Cus I don't believe your bull shit. Bringing down Obama Bin Laden doesn't change shit. Uncle Bennie boy is still printing like there's no tomorrow and flation is coming like a Miyagi Prefecture Tsunami. Not a damn thing has changed since Friday 'cept the spelling of Osama to USAma. Watch my right hand sock puppet while my left hand does U SAma more rectal fisting.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:45 | 1226371 Manthong
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OK, so the Comex is flat lined for almost three days 48-49 or so - goes flakey south after hours on Friday and then noses down 20% BEFORE Sydey?? I just hope this stays down or goes down further until a little after 9:30 tomorrow.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:57 | 1226425 Cleanclog
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Silver isn't gold, and the hedge/play isn't just interest rates.  It is currency replacement value. Gold is real values/prices vs. worthless (or increasingly less worth) fiat currencies.

Oil is the potential foil for interest rate manipulations.  Oil is the real interest rates that the Central Banks deny.  

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 22:43 | 1227117 longorshort
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Get a profile with professionalism dipshit.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 07:32 | 1228687 FEDbuster
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She looks like a pro to me.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:09 | 1226488 Whalley World
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What a blessing, just got my Q1 bonus and what do I find Sunday night but a month end clear out sale.

Thank you JPM

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:12 | 1226496 Cash_is_Trash
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Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:31 | 1226587 fockewulf190
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Glad I stayed up late over here in Germany.  Now I got to press my own fat fucking finger at slimmed up prices.  Thanks Blythe for helping me stack my stack with extra bling.  See you in Venezuela. 

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 21:02 | 1226690 GoldenCalf
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I'd go with Uruguay.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 21:36 | 1226795 PY-129-20
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Yap, me too. Huhu Focke! Bist nicht der Einzige...

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:24 | 1227562 Ahmeexnal
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*hmpf*  You so obviously don't know about Venezuelan ladies.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 04:20 | 1228518 dognamedabu
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Try Bolivia..Orvana and SAC so much fun. But jebus this whole thing has me a bit concerned..Or not..Naw..In fact I am laughing here. What a prick am I. 

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 22:12 | 1226940 Freddie
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Yeah but you cannot eat gold or silver and it pays no income.  ;-)

Talked to someone on late Thurs.  He is in the business and a friend's relative is at a big hedge fund.  He said they called and said get out.  He said they were going to take it down to $37.  Why?  I guess because they can and probably it is to fleece the weak hands.


Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:49 | 1228318 CrazyCooter
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Cash doesn't pay income either ... if you don't take some risk. One must either lend your dollars or lease your silver. :-)

And you can't eat FRNs either ... well, I guess technically your could. Here is Adam Savage weighing in on the subject of dieting on FRNs (well, cardboard but hey close enough) ...



Mon, 05/02/2011 - 04:26 | 1228524 Urban Redneck
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If someone wants to minimize the volume of paper silver converting to physical - the tactic of loading a Brinks truck with FRNs and dropping it on the bid during the thinnest volume hours is tried and true.  In the current environment, with the suspiciously small number of intentions signaled since futures and options expiration, it might be that much more effective.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:38 | 1226302 Silver Shield
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A tale of two silver bull markets for those that need a little reminder...

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:36 | 1226309 MrPook
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That's one weird elephant

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:43 | 1226336 godzila
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Actually had a buy limit @ 42.80 which got filled - couldn't believe the alert I recevied.

Let's see how this one evolves...

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:50 | 1226384 Manthong
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Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:47 | 1226386 Manthong
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Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:57 | 1226430 SRSrocco
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USDX = +.03 @ 73.09

You call that a short covering rally?  I think this may have something to do with it instead:

Silver: Much Higher Margins Ahead for CME?

In what could be a precursor to much higher margins at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, MF Global on Friday raised its margins on one contract of silver from $14,513 to $25,397, an increase of 75 percent.


"I would anticipate that the CME will be raising margins again due to the volatility of the daily trading range as well as to reflect the contract's intrinsic value," he said. McGillivray suggested markets could see some selling in silver when Comex electronic trade starts Sunday night at 6pm ET.


They want to increase SILVER MARGINS to keep down VOLATILITY....HAHAHAAH.....glad we only had silver down 15% in 5 minutes. 

Looks like JP MORGUE and HSBC have lost control of the silver market with the Short Positions as the Net Short Contracts in silver are down from 76,000 in March 2008 when silver hit $21 to only 46,000 contracts net short when silver was $48 on Friday.

Fricken hilarious.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:01 | 1226452 augie
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Sun, 05/01/2011 - 22:17 | 1226973 TruthInSunshine
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Rumor that NATO Fighter Jets took out The Federal Reserve - The Bernank is Down. I repeat. The Bernank is Tango Down - permanently.

President Obama plans address to the nation


By Michael A. Memoli, Washington Bureau

May 1, 2011, 7:01 p.m.

President Obama will address the nation at 10:30 p.m. Eastern time Sunday, the White House said.

The announcement was abrupt, coming after the White House had declared a so-called lid, meaning no other news would be coming for the remainder of the day.

No word was given as to what the president would be addressing.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:09 | 1226471 SheepDog-One
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So adding in early last week hikes, the total amount of margin hike is 85% ? Gee as long as theyre not too desperate or anything.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:21 | 1226523 scatterbrains
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I'm hoping for continued selling so I can back the truck up. These fools don't realize these  attacks play right into the common man's  hands. I'm sure there are millions of americans praying for a chance to dump dollars at the right silver price, both here and around the globe. Please double again margin rates for us common folk.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 21:06 | 1226710 Frankie Carbone
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I actually sold 100% of my physical on Friday in anticipation of an all-out, viscious short-lived attack on the $50.00 mark. It went against my core position of NEVER SELL YOUR HARD ASSETS. 

Why'd I do it? 


Because I think that TPTB (The Punks That Be) are really desperate and will attack this price for weeks if they have to. 


And they'll be sucessful. 


For a while. A week, perhaps two. But for those holding it will be their victory. 

My target price is $180 or so, based on the inflation adjusted (or what I call Bernack-discounted, hee hee hee) Hunt Brother's price. 

But here me out. If this thing busts above 50 sustained, I have my FAT finger on the buy button, and I'll get it all back and more. 

I'm looking for a bargain buy right now. 

This week is the most financially insecure that I have ever felt. Having unloaded so many beautiful Silver eagles into the market. I want them back. 

But I'm playing the correction game. I think we might see a sustained 20% correction for about 2 weeks, 3 at max. 

That's 200 free ounces for every 1,000 that I sold. 

And if I am wrong then I am going to buy back what I sold and pay more for it. I have a buy order in at 52.00. 


Hell, I bought it at 12.80. I give up 8% as insurance against a correction. I think 15-20% correction is more than possible. That's 2:1 reward to risk. 

I'll test that. 

Advice here folks: If you want to sleep at night, don't do what I am doing.

Really. Sometimes peace of mind is worth a few bucks lost :)


Ohh, I have already reclaimed 25% of them already at a 9% discount. 

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 21:30 | 1226774 1fortheroad
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Sounds like your talking cow pies to me but its your fantasy. 

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 21:36 | 1226794 Frankie Carbone
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You don't think  a correction is in order? Listen, when I hear all my fellow silver bugs tell me that it's going to blow through 50 without effort, and I hear that drumbeat, I bet against it. Right now on the 50 mark, there's too many folks on the long side of the trade. So I plan on grabbing a discount. You look at the technicals right now for Ag and tell me that this is unwinding as a consolidation. It's not. It's looking an awful lot like a correction in play. 

As far as your cowpie comment. GFY. 

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:14 | 1227456 Freddie
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The big money wants to take some from the weak hands who jumped on the silver bandwagon.

I love these arseholes here especially the liars who voted for Obam think they are gonna take the system down. I like the idea of buying silver to nuke JPM and the corrupt Fed banking cartel but sadly the big money/elites alway win.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 06:13 | 1228583 Frankie Carbone
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The weak hands will stay out. The strong hands will acquire more. The crazy hands will do what I just did. I plan on buying more. I started buying right after the 08' crash and stopped at the 20 mark. Now what I want is more. If greed burns me on a price hike instead of a price correction then I'm burned, but still up and will get it back. 

I want gold and silver not to crash the system, it doesn't need my help. I want it so that I can tunnel my wealth through the coming hyperinflation. 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 07:24 | 1228675 DaBernank
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I hear you, whatever floats your boat. This is what I do with SLV shares, once I buy physical, it goes in the hiding spot until I need it for food.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 07:42 | 1228714 FEDbuster
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Skip one step, and buy some food now.  In a system down situation, it's going to take a bunch of silver or gold to buy one of my 5 gal. pails of oatmeal.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 21:34 | 1226796 SamuelMaverick
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I did almost the same thing for the exact very same reason, only I did not sell all of my PM's ( just most of them).  I took a chance that TPTB were going to fight PM's, and add to that the end of fucking QE2 and Helicopter Bens bullshit speech.......   Well, at least I did not get burned this time .  Going to buy back as much silver as I can.  Yours, Maverick

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 22:18 | 1226970 r101958
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Sounds to me like you are dealing with paper and not physical.....or perhaps paper backed by some % of silver.

Fri, 05/06/2011 - 15:28 | 1248859 SamuelMaverick
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No, I am 100% PM. Selling it was a pain in the ass, but I sold at between 41 and 49.  I am getting ready to start buying again.  Good luck.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 03:56 | 1228492 XPolemic
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Pity you got junked, there are some religious types here.

Personally I own the physical, so I'm in it for the long run, and the liquidity is not so great.

If you are in the paper market, then I think what you did was good trading.

And I also concur that they will probably hammer it as long as they can, try and close out some short positions. 

I wonder what the 1M implied vol is ...

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 21:40 | 1226815 Ben Fleeced
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Raise your knees higher. I can't see your diaphram yet.

Never mind I re-read it.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:39 | 1226310 dryam
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The Evil Empire's back is against the wall.  They are on the verge of completely losing control of the physical market.  This represents their desperation. 

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:34 | 1226597 knukles
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Dance of the Elephants

Don't know about the Evil Empire, but Blythe (and I don't mean Eastman Dillon) is in a tough spot.  Big Short being run, pain and suffering after Friday's monolithic burst. 
Cannot sit still.  Absolutely must play the hand; note the coincidental hit just as the COMEX opens. 
Gotta counter attack, demoralize the opposition.  Cannot let the surge carry on way past the Big Obscene Number of $1500 for any meaningful period.  It Must Appear As An Apparition, An Anomaly.

Do or die time.
Maybe even was the big way out of the money call option buyer? 
Just in case.

Significance here in the pattern recognition, the game theory.  There has been no major worthwhilenews today, none, nada, zip, zilch.

Watch the MSM (CNBS, et al) they'll note (if the price is held low enough by on the air time) just how right their prognostications as to the worthless metals has been.  Applause!

Self congratulatory pablum.
Be aware, will be a Bernaysian Onslaught of the most forceful nature, augmented with histrionics drawing the rational discussion as to the action deep into the most insignificant reaches of the Hegelian Dialect.

Be forewarned.  This is muscling by the elephants protecting a bad, bleeding position.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:49 | 1226649 nmewn
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I can hardly wait for the appeals to patriotism to come forth...the final, desperate, emoting of scoundrels.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 21:50 | 1226852 Quadlet
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What about this?

Idaho silver mine reopens after fatal accident


Sun, 05/01/2011 - 22:19 | 1226972 Frankie Carbone
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Something else is at play here short term. Anyone check commodity futures tonight? Most of them are flashing red. Plus the dollar just bounced again off the abyss to 73.27. 

Perhaps Tyler is right. Short covering rally of the DXY? Or perhaps CB intevention (swaps? if so why????)? Both? In any event, fascinating evening. 

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 22:20 | 1226981 r101958
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