Wow I bet that one chick in the white can't run very fast at all!
Now its obvious any further 'bailout' talk means nothing, as 1 bankrupt entity can not bail out another as theres no money there in the first place and it really is all about 'enslave the people'. Wrong answer, try again world banksters.
What work? Have to have jobs to get back to...cant just stand around with a bullhorn and whip demanding people get back to work in a shut down economy.
There are many more "small" countries than big ones. Enslave the little guys first, get them in chains, put a muzzle on them, propagandize the populace into thinking they caused the problems and deserve the punishment, that things aren't so bad afterall because somebody in Africa is starving and they still have heat in the winter, food at the grocery store and sports on TV. Then, over time, let them eat cake.
It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master. Ayn Rand
In my opinion this is a event put on by British Intelligence, to gather information, names and pictures of any potential troublemakers. This sort of thing is called a honeypot operation. Anytime you show up at these things, your photo is taken, your license number, etc, is taken and they put you on the list. That is my opinion, maybe it is legit, I don't know, but one thing I do know is that both the IRA and Sinn Fein have been infiltrated by British Intelligence long ago.
sad but true but those folks over the atlantic have been wrestling with corrupt governments for eight hundred years. We're new to the game and have a lot to learn.
Today as I see this medal of honor winner on CNBC , it is so apparent that they are using him as a hero for the sheep and to make the army look good and to make certain idiotic young people get some kind of stupid idea about joining up.
Wow! This bozo is such a brain washed gung ho chump, it is unbelievable. What they are doing over in Afghanistan is bigger than themselves? What the hell does that mean sargeant? Why are we in Afghanistan sargeant? Give me a break, break, break....With so many fools to choose from, the never ending supply of modern volunteer army mecenary chumps will go unimpeded I guess. God help us.
Listen i don't care for the war either war has been conducted. Actually i don't care for either war.
But seriously SHUT THE FUCK UP. Sergent Salvatore Giunta at a bare minimum deserves your respect for the manner in which he conducted himself. If you can't give him that, say nothing.
Ask yourself when was the last time you got off your fucking couch and did anything worthy of someones respect. Let alone rescue one of your buddies, when it was probable you would die for your effort.
One thing I have noticed in my travels , telling all who will hear me to please wake up, is that there is this kind of holy grail of military worship (as I call it) where you cannot ever say anything that may be construed as being disrespectful of the military. I cannot tell you how many times I have had to explain to people about this sort of thing. This blind obsequious genuflecting toward the military members has got to stop. These men are in wars killing and being killed and innocent people are dying for nothing. Can you folks not see this? Can you not see that valor in defense of the indefensible is wasted? Can you not see this? Sir , we are wrong. People say, well God bless our military. I say to them. Why do you utter a prayer such as this to a Perfect God? Why would a Perfect God honor such a prayer, when the people who you are wanting to pray for, are murdering innocent people? Why indeed?
It isn't respect they deserve, it is pity. Pity that they have accepted a narrative that is so far removed from reality that is closer to the antithesis of what is being sold. Pity that they have accepted a narrative that supports their fundamental beliefs, but a reality that contradicts them.
Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), I'm not wired to feel pity for grown ups in most situations.
If you feel pity then feel pity for all of us since the folks in uniform are drawn from the whole of society. Regardless if one wears the uniform or not we are all caught up in this fucking shit soup sandwich, none one less than another since we will either sink or swim together. There are no freebies or pure innocents on the road we all find ourselves on. Attempting to focus our attention on the travails of others as a means of escapism from our own contributions to this rolling nightmare is either an academic exercise or just plain jerking off and reflects the very system of artificial insemination that permeates every aspect of this society
Like I said... I'm not wired to feel pity for adults. But outside of that, I'm really not sure of the point you are trying to make. While on the surface it may appear smart (a few SAT words)... I'm not sure that you are saying anything, really. We will sink or swin together? What does that mean? There are no pure innocents? OK... but... who cares. Someone chooses to see things as they are... accepts that wars in Afghanistan and Iraq can't possibly be for the reasons we have been told/sold. For some reason (for you to determine... doesn't really matter to me) but for some reason you are hard wired to find that offensive.
This isn't an academic exercise of jerking off (again... what does that even mean)... this is our reality. We have, as a society, been conditioned towards jingoistic support of our military. One of our many shackles.
We have, as a society, been conditioned towards jingoistic support of our military. One of our many shackles.
Sounds like the kind of person who would say the same thing about their local bank teller while decrying the ravages of state sponsored financial services kleptocratic corporatism couched as free enterprise ...
Of course. We have been conditioned to believe that money has value... that American is based on free markets and laissez faire capitalism, etc. But nobody is glorifying the bank teller... that isn't the appropriate analogy. The appropriate analogy is Warren Buffet. A man who deserves no recognition for trading in on his name for inside information allowing him to place a "bet" on Goldman Sachs. In return for for his propagandizing... I tidy sum of money and a medal of freedom. That's your banking analogy. And your hero worship is proudly displayed in the NY Times.
(post edit... you edited your post while I was responding)... I don't chastise people for glorifying bank tellers... because people don't glorify bank tellers. Misplaced hero worship is good, IMO.
Equating Warren Buffet to a foot soldier is the most lucid thing you've said thus far. Of course Warren gets better bennies for his "risk taking" aka dick sucking. The fact remains that banks and those that work at them, or those that work at the "markets" are as glorified as any foot soldier. Even more so since those folks have never been spit upon by society they way members of the military have been while receiving far more $, like 20 or 30 trillion in the past three years. Hell, it has taken the mil-ind complex a couple of decades to amass that kind of welfare. You must not have made it to the history of the 1960's & '70's in your educational pursuits
Were some soldiers treated poorly on their return from Vietnam? Absolutely... which has become part of our conditioning. I don't think the soldier deserves our disdain... But like I said... It isn't respect that they deserve either, it is pity. Pity for signing up for an unjust mission that is different from what is being sold.
But I will acknowledge... credit is passed around for success that likely is undeserved, based on a system of near slave labor in far away Asian lands and propped up by debt that soon won't be serviced in system that will ultimately collapse. None of that changes the simple fact that hero worship of our military is misplaced.
In my mind there is no reason for hero worship of any kind. Humans are human. Some excel while other do not. Failure yesterday does not indicate failure today or tomorrow and vis a vis with success. However, we are dealing with humans here and with humans that have spent generations figuring out how to get us to dance to their tune. Why else would Lloyd Blankfein, George Bush, Nancy Pelosi, or in this case the sitting government of Ireland attempt to say they were on a heroic mission from GOD or saving the world from a ravage of their own creation? There is nothing heroic about the sum of all "evil" in human endeavor, whatever guise it arrives in.
What should be noted however is how do we recognize conduct that is of such impact, born from significant risk to self that renders itself heroic. In this my present view is that we should concentrate on what was heroic while remembering how the sacrifice of the actual individual that performed the deed/s elevated the ordinary to the extraordinary. A fine example from recent history..
"You do not become a ‘dissident’ just because you decide one day to take up this most unusual career. You are thrown into it by your personal sense of responsibility, combined with a complex set of external circumstances. You are cast out of the existing structures and placed in a position of conflict with them. It begins as an attempt to do your work well, and ends with being branded an enemy of society. ... The dissident does not operate in the realm of genuine power at all. He is not seeking power. He has no desire for office and does not gather votes. He does not attempt to charm the public. He offers nothing and promises nothing. He can offer, if anything, only his own skin—and he offers it solely because he has no other way of affirming the truth he stands for. His actions simply articulate his dignity as a citizen, regardless of the cost."
- Vaclav Havel
I am sure there are those who would suggest that Havel was a brainwashed pawn serving western financial interests, or that his opinion is rendered moot because the society that bore him reveled in his example and elected him to office. Just because someone wears the uniform doesn't instantly make them a brain washed zombie. When one sees the evil for what it is first hand then the call to being a dissident is all encompassing. For others there is just the sense rendered from distant observation which makes it all to easy to generalize, which is the very definition of prejudgment.
Krid they bought into a lie and volunteered for service. Nobody stuck a gun to their heads and told them to go to war. They did it on their own. I was watching a youtube video about war in Afghanistan and in one scene the cameraman showed a soldier who was in his hut, goofing off, I guess between actions or whatever and Krid, guess what he was doing. Guess? The man was playing a damn war game on his computer. So we see, now after all of these years as these young men have been slowly brainwashed. So in their minds, as they go to war, they think it is all a big war game, the same kind of war game they have been playing all these years on the internet and in their houses, staying up late playing these games to the wee hours, never knowing that with this brain washing,they would be called upon soon, as if by chance(not) to do in real life what it is they have been fantasizing about in their minds, to be a hero and to kill the bad guys. So we see that all along these war games that you see adverstised on MTV and before WWF etc are all being used for one purpose. To corrupt the minds of young men and make them pliable for usage as willing chumps fighting the wars that never end chasing enemies that can never be found. God help us. These are the same men and women who will be used, after their mettle has been tested in wars in these foreign lands, to come here and do to us as they have done to poor defenseless innocent Afghans and Iraqis, kick in doors, search and destroy. You think I am kidding. I am not. This is why this old soldier refuses to bow the knee and worship this modern day soldier because I know that one day soon, more than likely , I and many others will have to deal with them one way or the other. They are the seed of my loins and it is my fault but we were too busy making money and chasing the American dream and did not raise them correctly so now they are what they are. Useful chumps to be used as the state sees fit. It took them 50 years of electronic brainwashing, but the job is complete now. The universal soldier lives and does as he or she is told without flinching and it is said that it is good.
So in their minds, as they go to war, they think it is all a big war game, the same kind of war game they have been playing all these years on the internet and in their houses, staying up late playing these games to the wee hours, never knowing that with this brain washing,they would be called upon soon, as if by chance(not) to do in real life what it is they have been fantasizing about in their minds, to be a hero and to kill the bad guys.
All I can to this supposed lucidity is wow. If you are so adept at ESP then why isn't there a line a mile long outside of your abode for folks wanting to get your read into the hearts of others??
How anyone can go into the military these days on the premise they are protecting their country is beyond me.
American military actions in Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan, and likely Iran, are not serving a Constitutional purpose, that of defending American soil from attack, and any other alleged purpose would not be Constitutional.
Oh ok pal. I will bow low to our modern volunteer chumps. Sorry if that offends you, but we do not need to be in that war. Just think about it. If he was not ever there, we would not even be having this conversation, much less would he have to be a hero. I am not backing off my opinion on it. You have yours and I have mine. Now saying that, yes, what he did was extraordinary valor. Fine now, does that make you feel better buddy? I am not trying to denigrate the man per se, but I am trying to point out the uselessness of these wars that never end , that we were lied to about from the start. My whole point is not to put him down, even though he is being used, there is no doubt, but to try and say, (if you don't mind sir) that these wars must end and our young men and women must come home. Is that such a hard thing for you to fathom or understand? Can you imagine going up to one of these men and saying what I have said to you? I have and they don't like it nor will they hear it because they are blind and cannot see. They are deaf and cannot hear. It is hurtful and distressing to hear someone tell you the truth and to tell you that you were used and that your medals mean nothing. Can you see this Lizzy? As far as me getting off the couch comment goes, sir you don't know me or what I do and so don't worry about me. When the time comes (and it will) I will be there at the crossroads with my shotgun waiting for you. One thing is for sure. Hell is coming and when it comes, that will be the time for extraordinary valor in defense of liberty in my own land, not at the behest of the military industrial complex, fighting wars that never end chasing enemies manufactured for me, to enrich the few at the expense of the many. Deal.
As a member of this society YOU SIR are as much a part of that war, and the econometric centric fucks that sent him as the poorly led lad on the tube. If you use benbucks, bank at a financial institution, hell, fund a US ISP YOU SIR are supporting the stupidity that surrounds us. Supreme stupidity clearly and properly partially identified by YOU as these wars without end. Wars designed not only to further the churn of the current economic order, but to embody the very precept of "controlled savagery" to keep the churn chugging along. The whole of the structure is corrupted and unless or until you do more than simply stand on your front lawn, shouting at passing clouds I suggest you consider a different approach to those that do. Remember, it is this so called "volunteer chump" that still defends your privilege to stand out on your front lawn, spouting off without being subjected to being sent off to count trees.
Cheers Fucktard aka fellow citizen. Damn, I haveta remember it takes all sorts to make a society, and unfortunately, you are part of that process. Your clearly self identified gerbervoreizm is what those that actually profit form all of this unmitigated mayhem would call an industrial waste byproduct. I suggest you do more than spout dioxin boosted gerber banana flavored goop and consider giving the system you seem to abhor a personal dose of MS rather than a shot of meth to keep it going. Perhaps you might even consider using the tools at your disposal to create and foster an alchemy of counterchurn.
Not so lucid. So you seem to be on board with the idea that things are not as they seem... so why so much venom directed towards someone who chooses to acknowledge one such area (worship of our military). Seems at odds with the rest of your post. What am I missing?
I have huge respect for HPD or else I wouldn't have jumped into the ring. No venom, except for the fact that decrying one aspect of the industrial byproductism while slurping up others is simply sorry assed bull shit. I know we'll both grow, but one has to be willing to call into question ones own propensity for mutual masturbation if one is to ever enjoy real sex. Until one has faced their own death and survived then it seems impossible to cross the divide to those whom haven't
The "volunteer chumps" are NOT currently defending any of our liberties. They are abroad wreaking havoc and death, and creating untold enemies and blowback. The only "privileges" they are defending are the privileges of an elite few, and the global corporations and MIC that serve them. The "chumps" are NOT defending freedom, but are defending puppet despots, sheikhdoms, and drug lords. They are contributing to the steady EROSION of our liberties by martial legislation and upward transfer of wealth. They are helping to destroy and pollute the global environment for ourselves and others.
They are a threat to our freedoms, and the freedoms of others as long as they continue to mistakenly believe in and serve the goals of the PTB.
Just remember one thing. They can easily be rotated back home to deal with, shall we say, some "civil unrest" around here , if the sheep in this country get a little froggish. Then they will be told that the angry Americans in the streets are the enemies and that they are patriots doing their duty to God and country and like the good useful slaves they are, they will do as they are told, so deep is the brainwashing now.
Come on HPD. stick to the present rather than deflect to some imagined future. What are you doing to put your very life or freedom at risk to change things? Besides commenting at ZH and stocking up on reloading supplies from the very arms manufactures that profit from what you abhor that is...
They were sent abroad by our very society. Did you block the gates at the bases before they left? Humans do not live or grow on confirmation bias alone.
If everyone is equally to be blamed, then no one is more accountable.
That argument is flawed for a number of reasons. It makes no distinction between conscious and deliberate acts of malice, and accidental or mistaken acts. I contend the leaders are fully aware of their hypocrisy and self-serving goals. Bush, Obama, Petreaus, et al are more to blame for the war crimes they order, than the youthful and naive soldiers who carry out the orders.
The argument you presented also makes little distinction between acts committed under duress, and those done voluntarily. Obeying unjust laws because one doesn't wish to be subject to arrest, is not, I would say, equivalent to volunteering to enforce unjust laws.
Also, merely because one does not oppose government misconduct in the manner YOU suggest would be most effective (such as blocking gates to bases) is no proof what you suggest is the most effective means of opposition, nor is it proof one should presently be doing that.
I understand you view. Held it for quite some time. Fact remains that accessory to or after the fact is the same as committing the offense. Being the leading figure in a continuing criminal enterprise is another matter, but those numbers are far smaller than broadly believed. I suspect that many of these supposed leaders fully believe that what they are doing is the best that can be done. Sorry assed shit those decisions are. I cannot but believe that following the example set by South Africa as it transitioned from apartheid to what it is now is superior to following the first French republic's. After all, someone in the midst of a rolling terror might decide that your contributions warrant the block and I am sure you wouldn't like that one bit.
new avatar miles? always enjoy your comments. This debate reminds me of a comment made by a family member who is quite critical of the prior administration and quite the defender of the current. After they finally conceded the possibility that these wars are motivated substantially by peak oil, he said that if they had just told him that from the beginning, he and a lot more people would have been on board. Only half true really. People have a hard time saying it out loud because well, it's a little ugly, but a lot of people realize it and very few are doing anything about it. Dick Cheney represents a lot of disgusting things but one of them is us. And he knows it. And he's right, the american way of life is apparently not negotaible and you're right too, this military empire is nothing more than an extension of our hypocrisy, ignorance and greed. That doesn't mean that powerful external forces are not about to negotate all of that for us and perhaps the best thing we can do to prepare is have a little introspection. Have a healthy holiday
Thanx Davey for spittin' it far better than my weak assed attempt. Best to you and yours as I suspect that no matter what transpires some tough times & decisions lie ahead, for us all.
With the kicker that sitting in judgment of another without all the facts makes false the claim of reasoned judgment. This is what HPD was both reviling (for good reason) while using this very structure as support for a counter position. Hence my willingness to take the time to engage in the fight club ring of ideas.
Once again thanx Lizzy, HPD, Davey and to you for your willingness to thrash this about some. Agreed or no this is the very essence of open debate fostered with anonymous free speech. WhoT!!
"I believe if we had, and would, keep our dirty, bloody, dollar-crooked fingers out of the business of these nations so full of depressed, exploited people, they will arrive at a solution of their own. That they design and want. That they fight and work for... and not the American style, which they don't want. Not one crammed down their throats by the Americans." --General David Shoup, former Marine Corps Commandant
They're expediently-reformed and unrepentant terrorists, the biggest scumbags (of any significant political heft) in Irish or British politics. After blowing apart men in pubs and toddlers in shopping centres in the name of a united Ireland run by them, they decided it was time to live happily ever after in exchange for bags of money from the British government and the position of Deputy First Minister in the country they'd been trying to bring down. Between Sinn Féin and the Greens (the junior partners in the coalition which has been in power for the top of the bubble and the whole aftermath) I can't say ZH is a great guide to the highlights of Irish politics (such as they are).
You obviously know absolutely zilch about Irish politics or the Northern Ireland situation, anything you think you know is coming from your gut, and i understand that, the weight of the political problems we face are not for the weak-willed and ill informed, and usually consume and reduce the politically minnows into slabbering, bigoted idiots. Your ignorance would be perfect for continuing the troubles into the next century, if you ever feel compelled to act on your political feelings, there are certain people in the north waiting with open arms, on both sides.
Mac autos would work at close range, if nothing else keep their heads down etc The damn things used to be about 3500 , now I noticed the price is going up . Agreed, waste of money as far as hitting the target. I love Rugers. Well built. Good quality wheel guns are fun. Does that sig ar ever jam on you? just curious.
How about someone put a web site together - like an Ebay - to raise money to pay off the bankers - and then allow Ireland to emerge as a fascist-free nation state - with a low flat tax and a gold backed currency ?
seems a lot less messy than re-capitalizing GM - no?
Stock prices fell Monday as investors worried that Ireland's application for financial assistance from its neighbors may not be the last bailout needed in Europe.
Civilian deaths during the Troubles were just shy of 2,000. Mostly Irish (duh).
Pretty unimpressive compared to the standard several hundred thousand killed by 'civilised' militaries in your average modern war.
Comparison with Hamas, check. Moral superiority? Er. Try a little justice before crying. As George Schultz casually told CNN's Fareed Zarkawi last week, everyone knows what the political settlement looks like in Palestine. "You just can't get there" said Reagan's Secretary of State. Translation: peace just isn't in enough important peoples' interests.
The global elites are responsible for the chaos and the dead children...or don't you read sites you post on?
High Plains Drifter - you are right on!! Diplomats, negotiators - people that build rather than kill and destroy deserve our respect and admiration. As far as defense, the Atlantic and Pacific oceans and Canada and Mexico provide all the defense we will ever need [no army could possibly overcome the logistical problem posed by these geographical entities.]
Sinn Féin don't like the banks much. They do like their money though. Was just a few years ago they were, ahem, allegedly involved in robbing Northern Bank of £20m+. Well, it was the IRA that did the job but a pile of the Northern Bank money was found on a Sinn Féin member's farm where he was burning the stuff. So no connection there at all. Sinn Féin wouldn't know what their military wing was up to at all.
The "White Whale" in front is Mary Harney, the Irish Health Minister, a contradiction if ever there was one.
For all you armchair terrorists out there, The Provisional IRA was officially disbanded on the 28th july 2005.
Sinn Fein wouldn't be the most popular party in Irish eyes.
While we may have the international reputation as "the nice terrorists", our violent history is long behind us.
Doesn't mean we aren't fucking furious at our governments betrayal, we are. Whether or not that's going to lead to insurrection and armed struggle? Who knows ? I'm sure there are plenty of weapons caches lying undisturbed awaiting the right moment...
"How many innocent Britons have the IRA and their Sinn Fein allies killed?" Don't be ridiculous, "Britain" has been slaughtering innocent people in Ireland for 500 years.
You might as well complain about the Cherokees killing a few whites before the Usa finished them off.
On a less serious note, I would be interested in Sinn Fein's action if any, maybe if it was significant it would scare the other corrupt political elite into going straight! (not you Barney Fawnks)
ZH....Sinn Fein are a Marxist and populist party who up to a few years ago, had a military wing! Their economic policies are abhorrently backward and they are using this crisis to appeal to those with very little economic knowledge or interest. They would also lie on the opposite end of the economic spectrum that ZH would be on. You should realise that before you post their propaganda.
ZH should ban your postings and send some men-in-black to your house to teach you a thing or two. Dumb fucking Brits. I can't wait for things to start getting explosive again. Those dirty Brits are much deserving. BP oil pigs.
The point is the majority are stupid and don't care about economics. First target for the IRA would be to put Sinn Fein in power though, not to attack British/EU interests.
The next step is to declare Ireland a rogue state and for the EU to really start the centralisation.
Then again the EU is totally incompetent and will probably fall apart first.
If the IRA cannot get back into action in the next couple of years, and in full force, they are finished. Their government has just sold out to British and European banks. The British bank who was on the largest and sharpest hook was the incompetently run RBS.
RBS is majority owned by the British government and owns Coutts, private bankers to the Queen of England.
This isn't even hard propaganda, even Iain Duncan Smith (the most boring political leader I have seen) would be hard pressed to fail. Combined what will be high unemployment among young people.
I don't think those big US corporations will be wanting to hang around when the Troubles Mk II starts up, even with a 12% tax rate.
hmmmmm, very interesting... :)
Always liked the Irish...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiIkRz_aP8M
Link, in case anyone wanted it.
http://www.sinnfein.ie/
I hope this is the start of a grassroots revolt against the international banking elite in Ireland.
Wow I bet that one chick in the white can't run very fast at all!
Now its obvious any further 'bailout' talk means nothing, as 1 bankrupt entity can not bail out another as theres no money there in the first place and it really is all about 'enslave the people'. Wrong answer, try again world banksters.
Rule # 1....cardio.
Hahaha, love the reference. thanks for the laugh
Rule # 2, The Double Tap.
The one in the front row, not the one in back row.
Or is the one in back wearing "Irish Cream"?
The white mumu in the front I meant.
I gotta give it to you, she looks pretty easy to catch, even for other fat people.
mmmmmm fat people;
no love lost for erin in the UK
Law of the jungle. It is not necessary to be the fastest, but you definitely don't want to be the slowest.
"Once upon a time and a very good time it was there was a moocow coming down along the road..."
That's why the one in pink is smilling with all her teeth.
She only needs to run a bit faster then the slowest one.
BEAR MEAT BITCHEZ!!
That one has strong knees. I wonder why. It can't be housework!
;-)
Get back to work... peasants!
looks like we'll have to break out the whip again.
Rules for Peasants
What work? Have to have jobs to get back to...cant just stand around with a bullhorn and whip demanding people get back to work in a shut down economy.
LULZ
"YOU'RE the Boss -- why don't YOU pretend that I'm working?"
Excellent. I'll be using it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts_EYGo4Hbo
Well we realized so long, long ago...and I bet you
We've seen it all: the lies...they won't let you
I've got 14 miles to go...and I got riddim comin' cause you know I got soul
If you are rich, I'm gonna clean your wallet...I'm-a find you
So we fight...to get...we fight to get our weary arms to bed
Real love is somethin' that I still hope...people make their own places to go
In 1994 we're gonna lie some more...in 1994 we're gonna die some more
Is it ever gonna be the last show?
It's gonna be the last drive...to the boss too proud to make the cars that we drive
The women don't mind...we've got ample time
They don't wonder why...they do what they do
That's work that we do...
WB7, you know what to do!
Treason
About time this word got more mainstream.
"Off with their heads" needs to become mainstream again.
I BEEN sayin off with their heads for about 2 years now!
How many of those fuckers have loyalties to the crown?
When the prince marries a jewess you know what is going on.
The crown?
Eire is a republic.
Christ, do I need to spell it out for you. Wake the fuck up!
He married a JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!@1!@!!??
OMFG, what happened to the royal inbreeding program?
But seriously, OMFG JOOOOOOOS!
The treason is obvious enough. It's on the tip of everyone's tongue.
I'm hopeful about the "rules of engagement."
This has acted and will continue to act like a slow spreading cancer, unless enirely cut out. (Which won't happen)
Greece to Ireland to Portugal to Spain to Itlay to The UK and to the USA.
What better way to establish a NWO?
Yes.
This is right out of the "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" playbook - except on a global scale.
That's it.
There are many more "small" countries than big ones. Enslave the little guys first, get them in chains, put a muzzle on them, propagandize the populace into thinking they caused the problems and deserve the punishment, that things aren't so bad afterall because somebody in Africa is starving and they still have heat in the winter, food at the grocery store and sports on TV. Then, over time, let them eat cake.
So much for Creeping Socialism, It's Domino time!
Whoop dee do!!.....a bunch of Irish Marxists....who cares
apparently a shitload of angry people
*
...I am currently in Ireland on a Royal Visit this week of Nov 21st...
HRH, ADF
I actually am leaving for Ireland tomorrow....should be a bit exciting.
hmmm... methinks you're a bit omnipresent these days.
Duck!
But the bank stress tests were so positive????
In my opinion this is a event put on by British Intelligence, to gather information, names and pictures of any potential troublemakers. This sort of thing is called a honeypot operation. Anytime you show up at these things, your photo is taken, your license number, etc, is taken and they put you on the list. That is my opinion, maybe it is legit, I don't know, but one thing I do know is that both the IRA and Sinn Fein have been infiltrated by British Intelligence long ago.
That is the pussy American way of looking at things.
God Bless these pugnacious islanders who have more balls in their little toe than J6P will ever have between his legs.
sad but true but those folks over the atlantic have been wrestling with corrupt governments for eight hundred years. We're new to the game and have a lot to learn.
JSPs balls are lying on a beach, wearing sunglasses, oiled up , drinking penis coladas.
When might we expect similar for the Fed, Congress and all of the Banksters??
Today as I see this medal of honor winner on CNBC , it is so apparent that they are using him as a hero for the sheep and to make the army look good and to make certain idiotic young people get some kind of stupid idea about joining up.
Wow! This bozo is such a brain washed gung ho chump, it is unbelievable. What they are doing over in Afghanistan is bigger than themselves? What the hell does that mean sargeant? Why are we in Afghanistan sargeant? Give me a break, break, break....With so many fools to choose from, the never ending supply of modern volunteer army mecenary chumps will go unimpeded I guess. God help us.
Listen i don't care for the war either war has been conducted. Actually i don't care for either war.
But seriously SHUT THE FUCK UP. Sergent Salvatore Giunta at a bare minimum deserves your respect for the manner in which he conducted himself. If you can't give him that, say nothing.
Ask yourself when was the last time you got off your fucking couch and did anything worthy of someones respect. Let alone rescue one of your buddies, when it was probable you would die for your effort.
You are why i hate people.
Well said.
One thing I have noticed in my travels , telling all who will hear me to please wake up, is that there is this kind of holy grail of military worship (as I call it) where you cannot ever say anything that may be construed as being disrespectful of the military. I cannot tell you how many times I have had to explain to people about this sort of thing. This blind obsequious genuflecting toward the military members has got to stop. These men are in wars killing and being killed and innocent people are dying for nothing. Can you folks not see this? Can you not see that valor in defense of the indefensible is wasted? Can you not see this? Sir , we are wrong. People say, well God bless our military. I say to them. Why do you utter a prayer such as this to a Perfect God? Why would a Perfect God honor such a prayer, when the people who you are wanting to pray for, are murdering innocent people? Why indeed?
It isn't respect they deserve, it is pity. Pity that they have accepted a narrative that is so far removed from reality that is closer to the antithesis of what is being sold. Pity that they have accepted a narrative that supports their fundamental beliefs, but a reality that contradicts them.
Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), I'm not wired to feel pity for grown ups in most situations.
If you feel pity then feel pity for all of us since the folks in uniform are drawn from the whole of society. Regardless if one wears the uniform or not we are all caught up in this fucking shit soup sandwich, none one less than another since we will either sink or swim together. There are no freebies or pure innocents on the road we all find ourselves on. Attempting to focus our attention on the travails of others as a means of escapism from our own contributions to this rolling nightmare is either an academic exercise or just plain jerking off and reflects the very system of artificial insemination that permeates every aspect of this society
Like I said... I'm not wired to feel pity for adults. But outside of that, I'm really not sure of the point you are trying to make. While on the surface it may appear smart (a few SAT words)... I'm not sure that you are saying anything, really. We will sink or swin together? What does that mean? There are no pure innocents? OK... but... who cares. Someone chooses to see things as they are... accepts that wars in Afghanistan and Iraq can't possibly be for the reasons we have been told/sold. For some reason (for you to determine... doesn't really matter to me) but for some reason you are hard wired to find that offensive.
This isn't an academic exercise of jerking off (again... what does that even mean)... this is our reality. We have, as a society, been conditioned towards jingoistic support of our military. One of our many shackles.
We have, as a society, been conditioned towards jingoistic support of our military. One of our many shackles.
Sounds like the kind of person who would say the same thing about their local bank teller while decrying the ravages of state sponsored financial services kleptocratic corporatism couched as free enterprise ...
Of course. We have been conditioned to believe that money has value... that American is based on free markets and laissez faire capitalism, etc. But nobody is glorifying the bank teller... that isn't the appropriate analogy. The appropriate analogy is Warren Buffet. A man who deserves no recognition for trading in on his name for inside information allowing him to place a "bet" on Goldman Sachs. In return for for his propagandizing... I tidy sum of money and a medal of freedom. That's your banking analogy. And your hero worship is proudly displayed in the NY Times.
(post edit... you edited your post while I was responding)... I don't chastise people for glorifying bank tellers... because people don't glorify bank tellers. Misplaced hero worship is good, IMO.
Equating Warren Buffet to a foot soldier is the most lucid thing you've said thus far. Of course Warren gets better bennies for his "risk taking" aka dick sucking. The fact remains that banks and those that work at them, or those that work at the "markets" are as glorified as any foot soldier. Even more so since those folks have never been spit upon by society they way members of the military have been while receiving far more $, like 20 or 30 trillion in the past three years. Hell, it has taken the mil-ind complex a couple of decades to amass that kind of welfare. You must not have made it to the history of the 1960's & '70's in your educational pursuits
Were some soldiers treated poorly on their return from Vietnam? Absolutely... which has become part of our conditioning. I don't think the soldier deserves our disdain... But like I said... It isn't respect that they deserve either, it is pity. Pity for signing up for an unjust mission that is different from what is being sold.
But I will acknowledge... credit is passed around for success that likely is undeserved, based on a system of near slave labor in far away Asian lands and propped up by debt that soon won't be serviced in system that will ultimately collapse. None of that changes the simple fact that hero worship of our military is misplaced.
In my mind there is no reason for hero worship of any kind. Humans are human. Some excel while other do not. Failure yesterday does not indicate failure today or tomorrow and vis a vis with success. However, we are dealing with humans here and with humans that have spent generations figuring out how to get us to dance to their tune. Why else would Lloyd Blankfein, George Bush, Nancy Pelosi, or in this case the sitting government of Ireland attempt to say they were on a heroic mission from GOD or saving the world from a ravage of their own creation? There is nothing heroic about the sum of all "evil" in human endeavor, whatever guise it arrives in.
What should be noted however is how do we recognize conduct that is of such impact, born from significant risk to self that renders itself heroic. In this my present view is that we should concentrate on what was heroic while remembering how the sacrifice of the actual individual that performed the deed/s elevated the ordinary to the extraordinary. A fine example from recent history..
"You do not become a ‘dissident’ just because you decide one day to take up this most unusual career. You are thrown into it by your personal sense of responsibility, combined with a complex set of external circumstances. You are cast out of the existing structures and placed in a position of conflict with them. It begins as an attempt to do your work well, and ends with being branded an enemy of society. ... The dissident does not operate in the realm of genuine power at all. He is not seeking power. He has no desire for office and does not gather votes. He does not attempt to charm the public. He offers nothing and promises nothing. He can offer, if anything, only his own skin—and he offers it solely because he has no other way of affirming the truth he stands for. His actions simply articulate his dignity as a citizen, regardless of the cost."
- Vaclav Havel
I am sure there are those who would suggest that Havel was a brainwashed pawn serving western financial interests, or that his opinion is rendered moot because the society that bore him reveled in his example and elected him to office. Just because someone wears the uniform doesn't instantly make them a brain washed zombie. When one sees the evil for what it is first hand then the call to being a dissident is all encompassing. For others there is just the sense rendered from distant observation which makes it all to easy to generalize, which is the very definition of prejudgment.
Krid they bought into a lie and volunteered for service. Nobody stuck a gun to their heads and told them to go to war. They did it on their own. I was watching a youtube video about war in Afghanistan and in one scene the cameraman showed a soldier who was in his hut, goofing off, I guess between actions or whatever and Krid, guess what he was doing. Guess? The man was playing a damn war game on his computer. So we see, now after all of these years as these young men have been slowly brainwashed. So in their minds, as they go to war, they think it is all a big war game, the same kind of war game they have been playing all these years on the internet and in their houses, staying up late playing these games to the wee hours, never knowing that with this brain washing,they would be called upon soon, as if by chance(not) to do in real life what it is they have been fantasizing about in their minds, to be a hero and to kill the bad guys. So we see that all along these war games that you see adverstised on MTV and before WWF etc are all being used for one purpose. To corrupt the minds of young men and make them pliable for usage as willing chumps fighting the wars that never end chasing enemies that can never be found. God help us. These are the same men and women who will be used, after their mettle has been tested in wars in these foreign lands, to come here and do to us as they have done to poor defenseless innocent Afghans and Iraqis, kick in doors, search and destroy. You think I am kidding. I am not. This is why this old soldier refuses to bow the knee and worship this modern day soldier because I know that one day soon, more than likely , I and many others will have to deal with them one way or the other. They are the seed of my loins and it is my fault but we were too busy making money and chasing the American dream and did not raise them correctly so now they are what they are. Useful chumps to be used as the state sees fit. It took them 50 years of electronic brainwashing, but the job is complete now. The universal soldier lives and does as he or she is told without flinching and it is said that it is good.
So in their minds, as they go to war, they think it is all a big war game, the same kind of war game they have been playing all these years on the internet and in their houses, staying up late playing these games to the wee hours, never knowing that with this brain washing,they would be called upon soon, as if by chance(not) to do in real life what it is they have been fantasizing about in their minds, to be a hero and to kill the bad guys.
All I can to this supposed lucidity is wow. If you are so adept at ESP then why isn't there a line a mile long outside of your abode for folks wanting to get your read into the hearts of others??
How anyone can go into the military these days on the premise they are protecting their country is beyond me.
American military actions in Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan, and likely Iran, are not serving a Constitutional purpose, that of defending American soil from attack, and any other alleged purpose would not be Constitutional.
Oh ok pal. I will bow low to our modern volunteer chumps. Sorry if that offends you, but we do not need to be in that war. Just think about it. If he was not ever there, we would not even be having this conversation, much less would he have to be a hero. I am not backing off my opinion on it. You have yours and I have mine. Now saying that, yes, what he did was extraordinary valor. Fine now, does that make you feel better buddy? I am not trying to denigrate the man per se, but I am trying to point out the uselessness of these wars that never end , that we were lied to about from the start. My whole point is not to put him down, even though he is being used, there is no doubt, but to try and say, (if you don't mind sir) that these wars must end and our young men and women must come home. Is that such a hard thing for you to fathom or understand? Can you imagine going up to one of these men and saying what I have said to you? I have and they don't like it nor will they hear it because they are blind and cannot see. They are deaf and cannot hear. It is hurtful and distressing to hear someone tell you the truth and to tell you that you were used and that your medals mean nothing. Can you see this Lizzy? As far as me getting off the couch comment goes, sir you don't know me or what I do and so don't worry about me. When the time comes (and it will) I will be there at the crossroads with my shotgun waiting for you. One thing is for sure. Hell is coming and when it comes, that will be the time for extraordinary valor in defense of liberty in my own land, not at the behest of the military industrial complex, fighting wars that never end chasing enemies manufactured for me, to enrich the few at the expense of the many. Deal.
wow.... wonderfully lucid, though I'm sure it won't be well received.
As a member of this society YOU SIR are as much a part of that war, and the econometric centric fucks that sent him as the poorly led lad on the tube. If you use benbucks, bank at a financial institution, hell, fund a US ISP YOU SIR are supporting the stupidity that surrounds us. Supreme stupidity clearly and properly partially identified by YOU as these wars without end. Wars designed not only to further the churn of the current economic order, but to embody the very precept of "controlled savagery" to keep the churn chugging along. The whole of the structure is corrupted and unless or until you do more than simply stand on your front lawn, shouting at passing clouds I suggest you consider a different approach to those that do. Remember, it is this so called "volunteer chump" that still defends your privilege to stand out on your front lawn, spouting off without being subjected to being sent off to count trees.
Cheers Fucktard aka fellow citizen. Damn, I haveta remember it takes all sorts to make a society, and unfortunately, you are part of that process. Your clearly self identified gerbervoreizm is what those that actually profit form all of this unmitigated mayhem would call an industrial waste byproduct. I suggest you do more than spout dioxin boosted gerber banana flavored goop and consider giving the system you seem to abhor a personal dose of MS rather than a shot of meth to keep it going. Perhaps you might even consider using the tools at your disposal to create and foster an alchemy of counterchurn.
Not so lucid. So you seem to be on board with the idea that things are not as they seem... so why so much venom directed towards someone who chooses to acknowledge one such area (worship of our military). Seems at odds with the rest of your post. What am I missing?
See, they hate it when I talk like that.
ROFLMAO.
Have a wet sloppy kiss you shave needing mf'er.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8sNeozweTM
I have huge respect for HPD or else I wouldn't have jumped into the ring. No venom, except for the fact that decrying one aspect of the industrial byproductism while slurping up others is simply sorry assed bull shit. I know we'll both grow, but one has to be willing to call into question ones own propensity for mutual masturbation if one is to ever enjoy real sex. Until one has faced their own death and survived then it seems impossible to cross the divide to those whom haven't
Cheers
You are mistaken.
The "volunteer chumps" are NOT currently defending any of our liberties. They are abroad wreaking havoc and death, and creating untold enemies and blowback. The only "privileges" they are defending are the privileges of an elite few, and the global corporations and MIC that serve them. The "chumps" are NOT defending freedom, but are defending puppet despots, sheikhdoms, and drug lords. They are contributing to the steady EROSION of our liberties by martial legislation and upward transfer of wealth. They are helping to destroy and pollute the global environment for ourselves and others.
They are a threat to our freedoms, and the freedoms of others as long as they continue to mistakenly believe in and serve the goals of the PTB.
Just remember one thing. They can easily be rotated back home to deal with, shall we say, some "civil unrest" around here , if the sheep in this country get a little froggish. Then they will be told that the angry Americans in the streets are the enemies and that they are patriots doing their duty to God and country and like the good useful slaves they are, they will do as they are told, so deep is the brainwashing now.
Come on HPD. stick to the present rather than deflect to some imagined future. What are you doing to put your very life or freedom at risk to change things? Besides commenting at ZH and stocking up on reloading supplies from the very arms manufactures that profit from what you abhor that is...
They were sent abroad by our very society. Did you block the gates at the bases before they left? Humans do not live or grow on confirmation bias alone.
If everyone is equally to be blamed, then no one is more accountable.
That argument is flawed for a number of reasons. It makes no distinction between conscious and deliberate acts of malice, and accidental or mistaken acts. I contend the leaders are fully aware of their hypocrisy and self-serving goals. Bush, Obama, Petreaus, et al are more to blame for the war crimes they order, than the youthful and naive soldiers who carry out the orders.
The argument you presented also makes little distinction between acts committed under duress, and those done voluntarily. Obeying unjust laws because one doesn't wish to be subject to arrest, is not, I would say, equivalent to volunteering to enforce unjust laws.
Also, merely because one does not oppose government misconduct in the manner YOU suggest would be most effective (such as blocking gates to bases) is no proof what you suggest is the most effective means of opposition, nor is it proof one should presently be doing that.
I understand you view. Held it for quite some time. Fact remains that accessory to or after the fact is the same as committing the offense. Being the leading figure in a continuing criminal enterprise is another matter, but those numbers are far smaller than broadly believed. I suspect that many of these supposed leaders fully believe that what they are doing is the best that can be done. Sorry assed shit those decisions are. I cannot but believe that following the example set by South Africa as it transitioned from apartheid to what it is now is superior to following the first French republic's. After all, someone in the midst of a rolling terror might decide that your contributions warrant the block and I am sure you wouldn't like that one bit.
Cheers
new avatar miles? always enjoy your comments. This debate reminds me of a comment made by a family member who is quite critical of the prior administration and quite the defender of the current. After they finally conceded the possibility that these wars are motivated substantially by peak oil, he said that if they had just told him that from the beginning, he and a lot more people would have been on board. Only half true really. People have a hard time saying it out loud because well, it's a little ugly, but a lot of people realize it and very few are doing anything about it. Dick Cheney represents a lot of disgusting things but one of them is us. And he knows it. And he's right, the american way of life is apparently not negotaible and you're right too, this military empire is nothing more than an extension of our hypocrisy, ignorance and greed. That doesn't mean that powerful external forces are not about to negotate all of that for us and perhaps the best thing we can do to prepare is have a little introspection. Have a healthy holiday
Thanx Davey for spittin' it far better than my weak assed attempt. Best to you and yours as I suspect that no matter what transpires some tough times & decisions lie ahead, for us all.
I'm on board with all of that. If that was miles' point all along... I'm on board with Miles' point.
It is.
With the kicker that sitting in judgment of another without all the facts makes false the claim of reasoned judgment. This is what HPD was both reviling (for good reason) while using this very structure as support for a counter position. Hence my willingness to take the time to engage in the fight club ring of ideas.
Once again thanx Lizzy, HPD, Davey and to you for your willingness to thrash this about some. Agreed or no this is the very essence of open debate fostered with anonymous free speech. WhoT!!
So you enumerate the problem. Basically we are all complicit in the state of current affairs.
(which I do not agree with... Think TARP for a recent example for when it was clear that people wanted none of what we got)
What can you offer for solutions and do you think that soloutions are within grasp?
If society really did not want the government it would change it
Regarding Anon Free Speech...
That is not occurring here or anywhere else on the Internet.
Nobody is truly anonymous on the Internet unless they have taken great pains to make it so.
Individuals who have gone through that trouble, are not using that anonymity to post on boards.
Brava, lizzy.
remove head from ass.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Smedley.Darlington.Butler/War.Is.A.Ra...
Lizzy, you're one of the reasons why I don't hate all people.
Layne said life is a Love Hate Love kinda deal....
+1 aldousd
+1
"I believe if we had, and would, keep our dirty, bloody, dollar-crooked fingers out of the business of these nations so full of depressed, exploited people, they will arrive at a solution of their own. That they design and want. That they fight and work for... and not the American style, which they don't want. Not one crammed down their throats by the Americans."
--General David Shoup, former Marine Corps Commandant
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/David.Shoup.Quote.9175
HPD - You're an illiterate ignorant POS. DYMF.
If I could file that picture in the dictionary I would put it next to:
Pretentious: def
Attempting to impress by affecting greater importance or merit than is actually possessed.
And it's Tommy this, and Tommy that,
and Tommy how's your soul?
But it's thin red line of heroes,
when the drums begin to roll.
Kipling
Here is the vid...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0S_TT5GAvo&feature=player_embedded
....and additional story
http://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-activists-breach-dail-gates-ff-td-dem...
Incredible. Pissed off is about the only thing running through my mind.
We would never see such protests here...the public has been neutered.
Jesse has a nice graph which sums up nicely the past 2 years of market manipulation.
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2010/11/congress-median-househo...
And Ben is trying to make all ok in the world with a push to green. All the bad news till the end of the century is as always baked in. Such a sham.
REVOLUTION!
Arent they terrorists?
poeple on the picture ?
yes.
scary huh? Wicked wicked people, its written all over they're faces.
They're expediently-reformed and unrepentant terrorists, the biggest scumbags (of any significant political heft) in Irish or British politics. After blowing apart men in pubs and toddlers in shopping centres in the name of a united Ireland run by them, they decided it was time to live happily ever after in exchange for bags of money from the British government and the position of Deputy First Minister in the country they'd been trying to bring down. Between Sinn Féin and the Greens (the junior partners in the coalition which has been in power for the top of the bubble and the whole aftermath) I can't say ZH is a great guide to the highlights of Irish politics (such as they are).
You obviously know absolutely zilch about Irish politics or the Northern Ireland situation, anything you think you know is coming from your gut, and i understand that, the weight of the political problems we face are not for the weak-willed and ill informed, and usually consume and reduce the politically minnows into slabbering, bigoted idiots. Your ignorance would be perfect for continuing the troubles into the next century, if you ever feel compelled to act on your political feelings, there are certain people in the north waiting with open arms, on both sides.
On the contrary.
What's with the feelgood, faux-Western yellow font there? Is this a clown rodeo or a revolutionary call?
Oh, right, it's both. Never mind.
'Armalite rifle
Police and IRA
Armalite rifle
Use it every day'
-Gang of Four
One of life's great pleasures. Watching a good looking woman firing a weapon. I don't know what it is but it is big rush. Ha ha ha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUKADwRtnuc
Agree with the concept, but mac-11, tek-9?... May as well just throw the gun at an intruder.
My arsenal includes: Mossberg 500 roadblocker, Sig Sauer 2022 9mm, Ruger Vaquero (45 colt), and Sig Sauer 516 Patrol (AR).
Mac autos would work at close range, if nothing else keep their heads down etc The damn things used to be about 3500 , now I noticed the price is going up . Agreed, waste of money as far as hitting the target. I love Rugers. Well built. Good quality wheel guns are fun. Does that sig ar ever jam on you? just curious.
How about someone put a web site together - like an Ebay - to raise money to pay off the bankers - and then allow Ireland to emerge as a fascist-free nation state - with a low flat tax and a gold backed currency ?
seems a lot less messy than re-capitalizing GM - no?
We'll see if the Irish are more angry than the Greeks.
A watched kettle never boils.
mead vs ale
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men?
Les Miserables
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdRJTr23gQo
Damn, I was going to go long this morning...
Markets up on news of Irish bailout
http://www.euronews.net/2010/11/22/markets-up-on-news-of-irish-bailout/
Up or down?
Stock prices fell Monday as investors worried that Ireland's application for financial assistance from its neighbors may not be the last bailout needed in Europe.
http://news.ino.com/headlines/?newsid=68974768718380
How many innocent Britons have the IRA and their Sinn Fein allies killed?
This is like celebrating a Hamas announcement.
Innocent Britons? Yeah, right laddie.
I think Tim Parry and Johnathan Ball were pretty innocent, don't you?
If Hamas declared open season on Government & bankers a lot of people would be celebrating.
Civilian deaths during the Troubles were just shy of 2,000. Mostly Irish (duh).
Pretty unimpressive compared to the standard several hundred thousand killed by 'civilised' militaries in your average modern war.
Comparison with Hamas, check. Moral superiority? Er. Try a little justice before crying. As George Schultz casually told CNN's Fareed Zarkawi last week, everyone knows what the political settlement looks like in Palestine. "You just can't get there" said Reagan's Secretary of State. Translation: peace just isn't in enough important peoples' interests.
The global elites are responsible for the chaos and the dead children...or don't you read sites you post on?
If you see two fish fighting in the sea, look for the Brit that started it.
Certavi et vici...
I'd be one nervous sonofabitch with those carnivores posting my picture, they don't exactly use "least measures" to get their point across.
High Plains Drifter - you are right on!! Diplomats, negotiators - people that build rather than kill and destroy deserve our respect and admiration. As far as defense, the Atlantic and Pacific oceans and Canada and Mexico provide all the defense we will ever need [no army could possibly overcome the logistical problem posed by these geographical entities.]
...from a Vietnam vet
Sinn Féin don't like the banks much. They do like their money though. Was just a few years ago they were, ahem, allegedly involved in robbing Northern Bank of £20m+. Well, it was the IRA that did the job but a pile of the Northern Bank money was found on a Sinn Féin member's farm where he was burning the stuff. So no connection there at all. Sinn Féin wouldn't know what their military wing was up to at all.
Burn the fiat, and melt the gold. A graphite crucible is one of the most important tools used to survive.
Don't forget Phil Flynn's tenure in Bank of Scotland (Ireland), the very bank that did most to inflate the Irish residential-mortgage bubble.
The "White Whale" in front is Mary Harney, the Irish Health Minister, a contradiction if ever there was one.
For all you armchair terrorists out there, The Provisional IRA was officially disbanded on the 28th july 2005.
Sinn Fein wouldn't be the most popular party in Irish eyes.
While we may have the international reputation as "the nice terrorists", our violent history is long behind us.
Doesn't mean we aren't fucking furious at our governments betrayal, we are. Whether or not that's going to lead to insurrection and armed struggle? Who knows ? I'm sure there are plenty of weapons caches lying undisturbed awaiting the right moment...
Lots of references to the size of the women but no comments about the men.
Sheep Dog and everyone who affirmed his comment are clearly superior human beings.
I want to se a list of companies most likely to be disrupted by ireland, arent they all tech companies.
You can find them all at this Irish development website. This is the tech/IT sector link but there are others:
http://www.idaireland.com/business-in-ireland/information-communication/
"How many innocent Britons have the IRA and their Sinn Fein allies killed?" Don't be ridiculous, "Britain" has been slaughtering innocent people in Ireland for 500 years.
You might as well complain about the Cherokees killing a few whites before the Usa finished them off.
Time for the IRA to come back to life and fight for the right cause. We should have a similar caption for Congress and the Senate.
It's called the second amendment, to protect the first amendment.
"Yea without sin cast the first stone"
On a less serious note, I would be interested in Sinn Fein's action if any, maybe if it was significant it would scare the other corrupt political elite into going straight! (not you Barney Fawnks)
ZH....Sinn Fein are a Marxist and populist party who up to a few years ago, had a military wing! Their economic policies are abhorrently backward and they are using this crisis to appeal to those with very little economic knowledge or interest. They would also lie on the opposite end of the economic spectrum that ZH would be on. You should realise that before you post their propaganda.
According to you ya dumb dumbie.
ZH should ban your postings and send some men-in-black to your house to teach you a thing or two. Dumb fucking Brits. I can't wait for things to start getting explosive again. Those dirty Brits are much deserving. BP oil pigs.
The point is the majority are stupid and don't care about economics. First target for the IRA would be to put Sinn Fein in power though, not to attack British/EU interests.
The next step is to declare Ireland a rogue state and for the EU to really start the centralisation.
Then again the EU is totally incompetent and will probably fall apart first.
If the IRA cannot get back into action in the next couple of years, and in full force, they are finished. Their government has just sold out to British and European banks. The British bank who was on the largest and sharpest hook was the incompetently run RBS.
RBS is majority owned by the British government and owns Coutts, private bankers to the Queen of England.
This isn't even hard propaganda, even Iain Duncan Smith (the most boring political leader I have seen) would be hard pressed to fail. Combined what will be high unemployment among young people.
I don't think those big US corporations will be wanting to hang around when the Troubles Mk II starts up, even with a 12% tax rate.
Next step, EU 'peacekeepers' in Ireland?
@Miles Kendig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8rQNdBmPek&feature=related