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Skyscrapers vs Earthquake: The Benefits Of Reinforced Concrete
Skyscrapers made in Japan:
Skyscraper being made in Taiwan:
Read all about the various earthquake mitigation strategies for skyscrapers here.
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You're an ignoramus.
Who said anything about "1000s of government agents"?
Air defense protocols were changed from a heuristics-based model (i.e., automatic response based on rules) to a command-and-control model that required the SecDef to affirmatively approve any defensive response... in the summer of 2001.
The elevators and computer network cabling in the WTC were upgraded, requiring small teams of workmen to do retrofit activity all over the buildings... in the spring of 2001. Marvin Bush helped run the company that ran the security for the Twin Towers.
All it takes is a few rule changes... and a few people in the right place... at the right time... and you can change everything.
dupe
Debunking911.com
Read it.
It is the patriotic duty of all Wall Street money managers to buy the dip in support of the world's disasters and termoil.
50 DMA and 55 DMA mean nothing in a manipulated market.
Frank Lloyd Wright showed the Japanese how to build something that stands through an earthquake. Unfortunately he didn't have the current engineering capabilities nor materials and had to go on instinct but was ahead of his time.
The Imperial Hotel was a brilliant bit of architecture... FLW was truly one of the geniuses of the 20th century.
Yes, 60' piles on a pad of mud, it was one of the few structures to survive the earthquake, then it was foolishly dismantled in '68.
It had structural problems because it sunk into the mud so there was no way to keep it. The facade was moved and rebuilt after dismantling.
True, but it could have been saved in situ, but the value of the land was too great, and that was the primary motivation for taking it down.
BreakingNews Tokyo Electric Power Co: Pressure inside No.1 reactor at Fukushima-Daiichi nuke plant is rising, with risk of radiation leak - Reuters
Hopefully the reactor cooling problem will be brought under control in time. At the moment they are losing it, but slowly.
"Underscoring grave concerns about the plant, the U.S. air force delivered coolant to the facility, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said."
Seriously, WTF is going on there. No details. Just "not critical"....yet....
I know that's reinforcing to people that live in New York to pretend that tall buildings are safe but it all depends on where the fault strike is in comparisson to the buildings and the earthquake depth. The quake that hit Japan was 75 miles off the Northern shore or about 150 miles from those tall buildings we saw in the film clip and 15 miles deep. Which is about what you would expect from a thrust fault out at sea. The most dangerous fault in the world is still the San Andreas or its major branches like the Hawyard because they are slip shear faults rather than thrust faults and when they break the earthquake depth is zero to whatever. Potentially, eventually, lots of ground motion. In any event the odds are that the next material event is in Alaska or Chile and then Alaska within the next half dozen years or so (immediately in earthquake time). Within the next dozen years we certainly get stress relief on the San Andreas but whether it takes the form of a great earthquake is unknown. There is currently a small but wery persistent earthquake cluster between hte Salton Sea and Guadlupe Victoria which means Los Angeles area is I play. So as I have been saying the geophysical risk is not immaterial at this time.
I don't know, but I'll bet if you let Dick Cheney take a crack at it with his remote controlled, fully fuel laden airliners and CIA demolitions team in there, they might be able to bringer down. Maybe.
wow...it can't get any more moonbat than this...
debunking911.com
You're in need of some de-programming.
CNBSs Larry Kudlow just said about the Japanese tsunami, "the human toll is much worse than the economic toll, and we can be thankful for that."
He's just such a prick of unbelievable magnitude.
Yes, he is.
But when one lies down with neocon dogs, one can expect to get up with sociopathic fleas.
Nice...I might have to bookmark this one...
Brilliant.
ORI
if this were China or Iran, we'd be seeing massive collapses and 100s of 1000s dead.
Gee I wonder if we'll see massive riots like after Katrina? More are dead here already from the severity of the disaster, so surely we'll start seeing the japs looting and all that, right?
No they would receive the "finding" label, unless of course they had too much of a tan and their skin was too dark for your comfort level. In which case the "looting" label would be pulled out.
nevermind that there was no such "finding" after the last big jap disaster and there isn't any now...
All those dark skins in the NO Walmart (inc the cops) with those shopping carts loading from the shelves and racks were just "finding" shit. You're right, sorry I characterized their obvious serendepity as looting, because you know, I'm rayciss and it really looked like they were wantonly stealing from a walmart. And after that Omar guy in the BART system that the "riots" hit a Foot Locker.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_china_earthquake
If this were China? Correct you are.
Honorable Trav-san hit ball out of park....
tcch, tcch. reality is not politically correct.
Tyler: Really appreciate the article, living in earthquake country.
But I do think you need to get back to banning obnoxious, spamming users. It does seem to be the explicit goal here of certain users to make the comments section irrelevant. And they seem to have succeeded, I'm sad to say.
yeah the japs will be out on the streeet.
piling the trash in sorted piles for orderly colelction
It seems the two videos show buildings that are fully completed (including having their mass dampers installed and no construction paraphenalia such as scaffolding or cranes hanging off their tops and sides) vs one under construction with all the attendant crap hanging around. The Taiwan video appears to show damage due only to the scaffolding and cranes falling, not the actual building.
Having said that, I freely admit I know very little about physics, skyscraper construction or earthquakes.
I was expecting some of the conspiracy theorists on here to say in response to the earthquake something along the lines of "psyops experimen obviously"
these buildings survive because Japan has been here before. They learned the lessons of the past.
Pretty good discussions going on here.
Remember folks, there's only one thing better to stimulate the economy than a major war and that is a major natural disaster.
A massive rebuilding and clean-up effort in Japan, the 3rd largest economy in the world could quite possibly be the jump start this otherwise dying economic behemoth needs.
I know, I know that I'm sounding like an asshole by focusing on the economy in light of the destruction, death and misery. I don't get hung up on that. The destruction happened, there's no turning it back. Need to look forward and see it for what it is. Maybe growing up in war torn Germany made me numb for good.
This earth quake hitting the world's 3rd largest economy is BULLISH. Just look at the ships, trucks, trains, cars and other machinery floating around. Unsalvageable and has to be replaced. The energy infrastructure needs rebuilding, upgrading, repair. Roads, railroad tracks need to be repaired or replaced.
One thing I'm certain of is that Japan can pull this off and it will down the road be a boon for the Japanese economy, similar to the German post war miracle economy.
Hmmm nice. I didn't even think to think of that angle
You do understand that whenever there is a war or disaster capital is actually 'destroyed'.
It will get capitalized.
Silver and gold are up. So is the Yen. Surprisingly the Yen got massive support overnight.
Japan is the 3rd largest economy in the world. Regardless of their debt problems, no doubt in my mind they will rebuild, repair and replace in due time.
Yes, but they are poorer. Because their capital was destroyed. They can rebuild, but that will do nothing, or add nothing to their economy. Because they'll have to liquidate assets and take on more loans or debase their money even more to rebuild, just to get back to the position they were before the disaster.
Good point.
It's a matter of how and when this will enter the balance sheets.
Good point.
It's a matter of how and when this will enter the balance sheets.
And must be replaced, thus creating new capital.
Earthquakes, oil spills, and tsunamis: mass death and devastation is GREAT for Capitalism!!
broken window fallacy...
Rebuild, repair, replace
It takes a well groomed, well disciplined and well trained nation to pull it off.
Japan can and will do it. Germany did it.
Entitlements will take a back seat and EVERYONE will pitch in for the greater common good.
You have no idea what a disciplined and sophisticated nation is capable of doing when facing a challenge like this. The US experienced this on a much smaller scale in NYC and on a bigger scale in Florida when Andrew hit.
The US has never experienced anything like this on a national level though.
Ok i think i understand what you are saying.
Certainly the Japanese can recover. I thought when you said 'stimulate' you were saying it in the same spirit as the talking heads, as in, it is a positive thing for the economy that there is a disaster or war.
When you look at what's going on in WI for example, you would almost wish a disaster upon that state so that these dumb knuckleheads get the entitlement mentality sucked out of them.
Natural disasters are good reminders not to take ANYTHING for granted.
Not sure what you mean by the entitlement mentality in Wisconsin. There aren't many banker-gangsters there.
The blood-sucking keystone cowboys in NYC are where you'll want to go for the entitlement meme.
"Pretty good discussions going on here.
Remember folks, there's only one thing better to stimulate the economy than a major war and that is a major natural disaster.
A massive rebuilding and clean-up effort in Japan, the 3rd largest economy in the world could quite possibly be the jump start this otherwise dying economic behemoth needs.
I know, I know that I'm sounding like an asshole by focusing on the economy in light of the destruction, death and misery. I don't get hung up on that. The destruction happened, there's no turning it back. Need to look forward and see it for what it is. Maybe growing up in war torn Germany made me numb for good.
This earth quake hitting the world's 3rd largest economy is BULLISH. Just look at the ships, trucks, trains, cars and other machinery floating around. Unsalvageable and has to be replaced. The energy infrastructure needs rebuilding, upgrading, repair. Roads, railroad tracks need to be repaired or replaced.
One thing I'm certain of is that Japan can pull this off and it will down the road be a boon for the Japanese economy, similar to the German post war miracle economy."
So why don't you cancel your insurance, burn your house down and get rich rebuilding it?
How come they're not out raping, robbing and looting?!? As happens in advanced areas like Haiti or post-Katrina?!?
Because unlike Haiti and the U.S., Japan's not a third world country.
Because nobody blew up the levees to ethnically cleanse the Japanese, unlike the case of Hurricane Sam.
Wow, racism and extreme right-wing nuts are beginning to rule the boards. True colours.
The hubris is stunning.
ORI
Agreed, the last 6 months have certainly brought some ahem, color to the postings. We all used to be sorta on the same side minus a few obvious trolls. Sorta.
Funny, some time ago, I thought I might enjoy a ZH gathering.
Not so much now.
ORI
All depends on the guest list! Hell, I'd love to have a beer with Cog.Dis.
rayciss...you rayciss...oh noooooooooooo
STFU man
It is a standard human response when the shit hits the fan, find someone to blame and rally around the tribe...
Yesterday, a new low, there was holocaust denier here that appears to have been tossed.
Not mentioning that the second video is from FEB09 reduces journalistic integrity.
How is it that an event with power in the scale of a thermonuclear explosion cannot bring down tokyo's towers but some jet fuel brings down most of the world trade center?
Is there a point to this post at all??? Video two shows Taipei 101 during construction when it was hit by a 6.8 earthquake. THE CRANES FAILED, must have something to do with them sitting one thousand feet up on what became the world's tallest building until last year. The debris was cleared and the building was completed.
Japanese buildings vs Taiwanese cranes??? Where does one even begin with this post?
Lame.