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As Sliding EURUSD Takes Out Friday Lows, Market Response To Bailout Is "Concerning"
Despite its illiquidity, The FX market has been the first and earliest indicator of how the market is taking the Irish bailout. So far it has been a complete abortion, and after opening in the mid 1.33 in the interbank market, the EURUSD has just touched on 1.3196, and is about to take out Friday support. The vigilantes refuse to go away. In addition to LCH margin hikes on Portugal and Spanish bonds tomorrow which now appears inevitable, we continue to expect that FX margin requirements will be hiked over the next few days across the board. Lastly, expect to hear rumors of secret service chasing any and all bond shorts/CDS longs. The war for the Eurozone's survival is now on in earnest.
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Gold sliding down too. Looks like Mr Buckler's 'risky' UST's are not quite risky enough eh ZeroHedge!
I personally am betting on thousands of years of human history vs. pretty printing on paper.
I've said this many times, every country with gold-backed currency went down. It's not the case of paper vs gold, but rather of political diligence so to say. Revolutions suck regardless whether you have gold-backed or fiat currencies.
Every country fails. The only question is whether or not the citizens of that country lose 100% of their purchasing power or not. Those who had gold did not.
Maintaining a gold standard leads to more stable governments as well. The Byzantine Empire was a notable example. In fact, if you look at all of the long lived empires of the world, a gold or silver standard was in effect for all of them. When they switch to paper, they have at most 80 years until they collapse.
There you go again, trotting out these things they call 'facts' again... Stop doing that, it really screws up the propaganda.
Do you really think a five minute chart is going to change gold's long term trajectory and the dollars long term trajectory ?
Even the dollar bounce in 2008 did not change any long term trends.
You evidently missed the Privateer article & thus the gist of my post.
Can you quote the projected time line on that? No?
That's because there wasn't one. These things take time, and you seem to be fixated on an hourly charting time frame. Loosen up a little.
It's not the Privateer's statement that has you rattled. What's the true reason?
Must love China
EUR falling and tepid retail sales = BOOMING SPX FUTURES!
It's all manipulated for your pleasure!
Market here only cares about weekend sales and they were NOT tepid, actually pretty decent. That's why futures are up.
Sales may be up a bit, but margins are way down. As a result, I doubt that retailers are going to be making much, if any progress on earnings. Besides, how does retail help the USA improve its trade balance and bring unemployment down?
easy to buy christmas presents when you dont pay your mortgage Harry.
I am growingly convinced that you are not a real person. You are a robo-drone who is programmed to post messages contrary to the tone of this site.
Good job, robo-drone. Thanks for the comic relief.
But double Pomo tomorrow. Sounds like a dirty movie. Like getting screwed from both ends.
It feels like we're in a porno. Can we call it "The Dirty Thirties Redux?"
Don't forget to wear your rubbers........duckie.
With fluffers and jizz moppers, too!
Yes, a potential stick save forecast for tomorrow but lately, it's (POMO action) playing second fiddle to the "kick the can" muff in Europe!!! WOW! this should be fun!
Bernanke is diddling himself to this news.
Man, that is some freaky imagery--my compliments! LOL
I must just fire up my Bloomberg Anywhere in order to watch this spectacle in real time.
Anyone have a entry point to short CMG?
Yeah record high Friday.
World falling apart and this is a safe haven.
I'd be really fucking concerned too, especially if I knew $20 odd billion Euros of my real money savings/pension fund money was being put up as part of a bank bailout and getting a ZERO fucking rate of return and everyone else in the deal who also happen to be the assholes making it all up out of 'thin air promises' were being paid a whole lot more for a whole lot less.
Bottom line; the Bloomberg so-called Ireland WINs Big spin can't pass the smell test.
In the Irish language that is expressed as 'fuck me'.
Come morning in Brussels, maybe the ECB will print up some Euros and then sashay on down to the exchange and buy some more with what they printed.
Though it's not clear exporter Germany will want this.
What's the end game for this all? World government? Single currency? Socialism?
I'm hoping revived Nationalism.
Portugal is on the clock.
Last one out of the euro is a rotten egg.
Time for a fresh maalox delivery to the SNB.
No fair! You were supposed to open them first!
Step one, cut a hole in the box, step two, put your junk in that box, step 3, open the box......its a dick in a box.
General extremism.
The end of the Dollar/Fed
Its a long story.....
Really how can you be so brainwashed with all this information not to see that there is as much difference between Capitalism and Socialism as between Republicans and Democrats?
Guess that whole Wikileaks McGuffin didn't do the trick--look out below...
So that what was in the briefcase in ronin.
Liberal S... I hope so too! It seems to me that most Americans don't and can't see what is right in front of them. Does it have to collapse first?
Best to go to practice at flea markets now so you won't be too far behind the curve.
Most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck with little or no savings so they really don't give a rats ass.
"The war for the Eurozone's survival is now on in earnest."
HAHAHAHAA! All you guys are doing, is helping the exports of Eurozone. Like last time during Greece crisis. 1.31 is a little bit high, 1.20 would be nice.
Be nice, or I'll buy your place and have you evicted.
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gold, sliding...wants to confirm the H&S?
still a long way from neckline 7's........somewhere around 1338...take out 1352 support and then we can begin to consider it.......all the worlds a flame and you think gold will crumble? Just because the least deseased bitch of a currency is rising? Use your head and buy on dips
I hope Gold and Silver stay down. I get paid in a couple of days, and will convert all that I can into PM. I don't believe in buying a debter currency as a hedge against the storm.
Any time gold becomes significant, governments will confiscate it, or more effective, declare it to be non property, thus de criminalizing any crowd who wants to break into a house to steal it. Or any bank that wants to take it from security deposit boxes.
Gold can be erased of any significance any time a government wants to. That's its great danger.
Gold can be erased of any significance any time a government wants to
If it could be, it would already have been. There is no danger.
Hmm. It had been in the past. Haven't you read history?
It was purchased by the government if you turned it in.
Why not claim your gold was stolen ? and hide it really well
I'm getting as agitated with some of these responses as Trav77. Gold is still money today fool & it always will be.
Governments may have in the past tried making it 'not money' but they have failed & thus it is still money today.
You have not only not read history you don't even understand the present.
Huh I didn't know the US could tell the world gold is illegal. Wonder how they will enforce it. Maybe the Grand Arme that is doing so well in its current adventures can branch out into all countries at the same time?
I know many cannot believe this but the US is not the whole world, and should the US decree gold to be illegal I expect it to spook the dollar market. Besides it's not like Americans hold gold, it's those pesky Asians. So baring a magical military tour I'm not seeing it happen.
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I think Goldman may be practicing a little "political" quantum physics here...trying to have it both ways, and obviously subscribing the the "many worlds version," not the Copenhangen interpretation.
I just wish they'd take their "Spooky action at a distance" and cram it!
What's next? Clones turn off Faux News, open a history book and read.
At least you'll understand why conservatives are begging for gov't aid.
Let's face it Euro is getting flushed, it has started making its way to the treatment plant .
They should get 'The Ben Bernank' to helicopter in some of his monopoly money to add to their own monopoly money they seem intent on creating.
The western world is a fast track to disaster with these idiots who give onerous 'bailout' loans to countries who can't handle their existing debt. Here let's fix your debt problem by loading you up with a truckload more debt. I feel like I am watching the slow motion end of the world, if it wasn't bad it would be funny. The stupidity and sleaze going around at the moment is more grotesque than my ex-wife naked.
All the Youtube pics were'nt that bad of her:)
Its clear that at every turn what ever these governments do is cheer by the street. And it shows that these govt now have the markets and who invest in them in their pockets to rigg the entire game. If not why not raise the margin on equities then?
Even if they manage the impossible which is to cram this bailout down the Irish throat (temporarily) without massive revolt or civil war the realization that playing spin the plate indefinetly with every nation and getting all to agree to a bailout and austerity is just impossible. Much simpler to just buy the dollar since the Euro will inevitably collapse and incite a war.
These are interesting times and the history is yet to be written. Me...I look at that mild uptick in black Friday sales and come to a few absolutes.
1. Trillion dollars in stimulus, billions in continued unemployment, nobody paying their mortgage and the best the Fed can achive is a 0.3% increase in sales?
2. The recovery is a decade away since Ben is rapidly approaching the end of his leash and the amount of freedoms politically he is being given now with 2 years of the inkjets running 24/7.
FASB 166/167 means capital raises for SPEs have to begin if I recall even after 2 years of delays. This is going to be a year to remember.
Trichet (looking at chart): I hate it when that happens!
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2. The recovery is a decade away since Ben is rapidly approaching the end of his leash and the amount of freedoms politically he is being given now with 2 years of the inkjets running 24/7.
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People are missing the logistics. Two new Federal Reserve Board members take their seats in January. Both are anti QE. Ben may not be allowed to do anything more on the monetary side.
Then on the fiscal side we have a bunch of tea party bomb throwers who were elected very specifically to throw bombs, and they will be told that the first truly significant vote they have is to increase the debt ceiling. It will not suprise me if they walk away and say no. The SHTF that moment.
The recovery is not a decade away. It's never coming. Ever. Oil production cap is behind all of this, and it's forever.
The pair is down thirteen pips and it had an abortion? For real?
What do you suppose happens when the Japanese index scoots below 10,000 secondary to yen strength? Oh, wait. That's tomorrow. I don't know whether your attention span can handle it.
A thirteen-pip abortion. Seriously?
As hyperbolic as I've ever heard.
Probably looking at the "other" EURUSD. 160 pips from interbank open. Of course, the market is ignoring the fact that QE3, 4, 5, etc. are all just around the corner.
Oh, okay.
I think the public is losing faith in the FED. Therefore, I wouldn't consider much further QE a given.
I agree
if the elites didn't let blind greed interfere they would take a small haircut. it is in their own interest to do so. Diffuse some of this anger. They are fools to go for 100% whole. If this behavior continues any longer there will be no Q3, 4, 5....they wil have self distructed by then. IMHO
The U.S. "Bonar" is surging on the news.
As I predicted, the more money printed, the higher your currency goes.
Apparently, the ECB and IMF fell short. They should have announced a $500 billion rescue package, not that paltry $113 billion...
Probably residual longs closing after the open.
That's one possibility, anyway.
1.31849....and falling
...and now it is above 1.32.
whats gold doing in Euro's ?
And whats gold going to do in dollars when the Fed bails out California ?
Is that the same as Boehner?
looky there gold gone verticle...and with dollar "strength" ...really makes no sense at all? Robotic analysis of relationships that are fleeting make for poor investment decisions
Let's face it Euro is getting flushed, it has started making its way to the treatment plant .
They should get 'The Ben Bernank' to helicopter in some of his monopoly money to add to their own monopoly money they seem intent on creating.
The western world is on a fast track to disaster with these idiots who give onerous 'bailout' loans to countries who can't handle their existing debt. Here let's fix your debt problem by loading you up with a truckload more debt. I feel like I am watching the slow motion end of the world, if it wasn't bad it would be funny. The stupidity and sleaze going around at the moment is more grotesque than my ex-wife naked.
Meh... I think the whole thing is going to continue for another year or two. The currencies will all probably slide downwards together so probably best just to hold on to your gold
Goldman knows that analysis can be used in many ways to talk your own book. When things as complex, unpredictable and well...Schrodinger Verschrankung such as the Eurozone situation need massaging for popular consumption...then they know they can talk it up and down simultaneously, since many people will take their analysis and fit it almost perfectly to their own preconceived notions. That exemplifies how the Schrodinger's Cat situation that Durden mentioned is so very perfect for the Goldman model of leading the sheeples by their nose rings. They are hedged on this deal to the max.....so they can feed their subliminal bullshit to "investors," and make money either way.
A nice little pop above the resistance, but no breakout for the dollar despite what traders would like. Blackhawk Ben will get his wish, and the game will go on as planned. One little country to default at a time (I consider these loans a constitutional default as it is an admission of bankruptcy). Oh, and that means gold/silver/platinum/oil costs will increase as JPM and the Fed spin their balance sheets accordingly.
Unless the working population continues to rise up and corner the silver bullion market.
An epic fleecing!
So the banks that are getting bailed out can borrow at ZIRP, but the Irish who are bailing out these banks, are getting charged 6% ????
Hilariously sad.
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Just keep feeding us Nigel Farange... as the circus continues.
They need to change this site to GoldHedge instead.
They'll go away. Give it a few weeks. Say mid-February...
"Despite its illiquidity,"
Err..FX is the most liquid instrument around????
"Concerned" is such a mouth-watering word "Deeply concerned" means it's time to descend.