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SNB Intervention Time?

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After many months of calls for SNB intervention, did Philipp Hildebrand finally wake up? The EURCHF just surged, bringing day gains to over 1% on no news. Is the Swiss giant, with its pregnant CHF-full balance sheet, finally stirring? Or does Switzerland realize that Hungary and Austria are toast if the EURCHF continues to plunge? Keep an eye out on this pair (and the EURUSD which surged in sympathy). Or is the catalyst crude oil, where WTI just hit $91 and possibly set off some array of derivative USD selling? Or, far simpler, is the FTSE's passing 6,000 somehow supposed to imply that the dollar should take a step function move down. We can only scratch our head - for the answer, ask the momo quants who are in charge.

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Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:25 | 826188 TheGreatPonzi
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"Or does Switzerland realize that Hungary and Austria are toast if the EURCHF continues to plunge?"

Affirmative

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:26 | 826190 French Frog
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i think it's more to do with ... Moody's Investors Service just announced that it has placed the ratings of 53 tranches in 14 European CLOs under review for possible upgrade

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:32 | 826199 sheeple
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tell moody' to go suck my nuts

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:32 | 826201 101 years and c...
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i give the half life about 45 minutes.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:36 | 826203 etrader
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Its still unclear if Hildebrand looking for a possable 0.50cent Euro Swissy or not.... ;->

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20101222-707190.html

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 23:01 | 827467 margaris
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50 Rappen, yes.

well, it was clear to me from the start that Hildebrand DID NEVER say that.

It was some paper (Weltwoche? NZZ?) that came up with the headlines.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:34 | 826204 Bull v. Bear
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All I know about this swiss is that they are good at tennis and they make a good cheese...

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:35 | 826205 Bam_Man
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One percent+ moves in currencies in a matter of a few minutes - and on NO news to boot. Laughable.

ALL these markets are nothing but casinos - the playthings of the PD's and Hedge Funds.

Enter at your own risk.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 13:01 | 826270 smeagol
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I did, sold at the spike and just banked the profit

Fri, 12/24/2010 - 00:26 | 827564 Orly
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Impressive.  You must have a direct line to the central banks.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:36 | 826206 bob_dabolina
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Just as fiscal stimulus is a symptom of recession, Central bank intervention is a symptom of sovereign crisis.

The crisis is far from over and when this tremendous ponzi bukaki fantasy comes to an end it will be something to behold. This destruction is magnificant in it's size and scope.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:42 | 826221 wiskeyrunner
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People have been saying this for the past 50 years. Listen friend, it's all rigged to the upside, so make some free money. 

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:34 | 826207 Id fight Gandhi
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Now oil surges well over 91, multi year highs. Recovery!

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:35 | 826208 RobotTrader
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Pretty obvious that the pair was way oversold.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:40 | 826217 Dr. No
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No Chart of Swatch Group climbing the materhorn?  How about a swiss hottie?  common, its christmas!

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:42 | 826224 hedgeless_horseman
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Obvious like PCLN was way overbought, or a different kind of obvious?

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:53 | 826250 Rogerwilco
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Cold

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 14:24 | 826373 hedgeless_horseman
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Robo is just playing a role...stunt cock.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 13:03 | 826269 hambone
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Interesting this move comes as Greek 10yr are on the verge of crossing 13%, Ireland heading to 9%+, Portugal 6.6%, and only Spain isn't blowing out today...though Italy is joining in the party coming up on 4.7% today.  Real bad juju for Euro. 

Any smart trader will take todays intervention as their backstop and short the hell out of the Euro.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 13:07 | 826284 doolittlegeorge
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no need to short.  this is no "drift higher."  again "watch for borders to be closed" not "euro failure."  and "those were probably Greek nationalists who attacked Rome today."  the do have a cross as their flag....

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:37 | 826211 Xibalba
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Who's keepin down the silver man?

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 13:04 | 826272 Turkey
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Can someone please explain to me how anyone makes money off of suppressing silver?

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 13:21 | 826322 merehuman
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keeps gold price low for oily arabs and patient chinese. Check Ted Butlers site or GATA.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 23:11 | 827482 margaris
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links please!

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:40 | 826216 wiskeyrunner
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Lunch time is near so it's time to jam the stock indexes up to the bast level of the session. Yes thats what you will hear from all the financial chatter boxes. THE DOW IS AT THE BEST LEVEL OF THE SESSION.

 

Make free money buy SP500 futures they won't let it fall, its a risk free market.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:41 | 826219 Rogerwilco
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The Chinese are spreading rumors about their willingness to put a floor under the Euro, no strings attached of course... lol

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 13:08 | 826287 doolittlegeorge
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in the meantime "Korea...

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 17:17 | 826965 squexx
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Fresh humiliation for eurozone as China says it will bail out debt-ridden nations

By Daily Mail Reporter
23rd December 2010

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1341110/Fresh-humiliation-euro-zone-China-says-bail-debt-ridden-nations.html#ixzz18yK5djNx

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:42 | 826220 Hondo
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These markets are all corruptibly passé do to their manipulated nature on whims of idiots.  You really do have better odds of making money at the casino......even more so if you have any intelligence at all.  Plus it’s so much more fun.

 

 

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:43 | 826228 swissinv
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I don't see room for intervention anymore. Interest rate at zero and EUR open market intervention should be off topic after the faild EUR100bn mispurchase (Hildebrand heavily dispraised for that). The only strategy the SNB has it supporting the EUR rescue packages.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 12:45 | 826230 Cdad
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Yep.  There you go.  Ben Bernanke at work.  He is not satisfied yet in his lust to destroy everything on the surface of the planet that is real...or is not in the interest of a corrupt banking industry.

SEC AGENT!!  ATTENTION!!  FLAG THE TAPE!!  Just sayin'...

Sometime in the near future...we will [hopefully] be reminded of this day by an SEC agent that just finally decided to do his job.

And even as this goes on, and probably because it is so obvious that it is going on, the move is quickly being repealed in FXland...but probably won't be repealed at the pump in time for Christmas.  Sweet!  But we can build a bullish case for all of this, I am sure, because Xxon exectutives might buy more Tiffany cuff links on the last day to shop for Christmas crap! 

CAPITAL WILL NOT FORM IN BANKS AS CORRUPT AS THESE.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 13:23 | 826330 merehuman
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so true, cdad

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 13:05 | 826278 papaswamp
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Still no confirmation...could be a fat finger, flash spike booboo...Portugal just got down graded to A+ negative outlook by Fitch

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 13:14 | 826304 doolittlegeorge
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The last time Switzerland "did a buy off" they darn near bankrupted the nation.  "Once more unto the breach"?

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 13:25 | 826338 hugovanderbubble
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Fyi

http://www.rankia.com/respuestas/634498/images/29305

Short FITCH,MOODYS AND SP...all rating agencies scammers.

 

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 13:26 | 826336 emsolý
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Bigger move is in CHFJPY, actually. -1.7% currently on the day.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 13:41 | 826391 AGoldhamster
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Hammies thinks, speculates - that a bottom might be in for EURCHF, EURAUD (after it has cracked 1.30 to run the stops) and EURUSD - and the @DX possibly will grind lower from here.

Not just since today after teh spike, but already since the last few days (in my blog), as both EURAUD and EURCHF look like they were finishing exhaustion moves.

I won't even rule out that that was not the SNB, but somebody else covering shorts in thin markets ... not to get caught wrong footed in the case of ... the SNB to intervene in thin markets.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 13:49 | 826423 AGoldhamster
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Also with the rating agencies now almost daily downgrading a piig and Eurella refusing to go lower - with possibly the BoS and/or china on the bid and buyside - I would be careful with shorts - or at least have a closer look at all that falling bullish wedges in these pairs.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 14:29 | 826538 dcb
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sometimes I wonder if you guys can't chart a channel.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 15:03 | 826630 Panafrican Funk...
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Channels are great until they're not.  Lost a lot of money thinking channels meant something.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 16:25 | 826831 something fishy
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USD/CHF bouncing off all time low as well

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