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Snowed In: A Photo Journey Across A Paralyzed Europe
Traveling to Europe? Not so fast. Most airports in western and central Europe are at best open on an intermittent basis, and at worst completely shut down, with the UK taking the brunt of the storm. Disruptions in traffic continue for a fourth day as travellers across the continent are paralyzed and scrambling to find way to get home, with just 4 days until Christmas. For all those reading Zero Hedge from some airport terminal, our condolences. As always, nothing conveys the story as well as a few simple pictures: we have compiled a representative sample of snapshots from across Europe to show just why all those hoping for a strong holiday retail season in Europe will be very disappointed.
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Certainly is relevant if you think using DDT is a good thing...
WRT to malaria, I've driven through corn fields in Quebec, I never realized that it was part of the Corn Belt. Silly me...
10 years of polar melt and people still haven't noticed that the polar air flows are critically borked? Santa is coming, and it isn't in a sleigh.
The perfect trap is the one where you have to be a working physicist to get out of it. For everyone else, the meat grinder awaits.
like this...?
http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/
i thought of the conveyer first thing, but these folks have info on the NAO that seem to exhonerate the conveyer.
+1
Could you at least learn to spell correctly so I can read your posts?
If you are thinking of coming to the UK for business or a holiday -just don't.A few inches of snow and the whole place grinds to a halt.I tried several times to travel up north mid November before all the snow and gave up,the entire network was virtually closed down then,with mass delays,cancellations,passengers being bussed to alternative stations to catch connecting trains,so this cold snap was the final straw.
Don't even start me off on the motorways,after giving up on the trains,I drove down to Northampton on the M1(around 80 mile round trip) and witnessed THREE serious crashes in one afternoon.
Is the old Labradour Current failing? The mad scientist maybe right on the money with this one. Then we here in Ireland would have more in common with Iceland than just the IMF bail out and an economy collapsing!
It need not be a change in surface temperatures you know. A subtle change in atmospheric dynamics can aim a river of arctic air at you and drop you in a deep freeze. That's a lot of air to move. Takes a big motor to move it.
They've been having 10 years of Arctic melt, I wonder where did the energy up there go, anyway? All that ice melted, latent heat of storage in the Polar Sea must have been huge. Where did the energy go?
I'll give you one guess were it went.
the energy didnt "go" anywhere
lol...
theres more of it there, and more going there... yearly..
It's the Greenland Block. Do the google. This weather could be caused by climate change.
you can actually see a melt trend graphic if you google that as well to watch the recession of glaciation over time.
its kinda neato bandito
Wow, how many glaciers across the planet are being studied .001, .002 or?
antartica, india, iceland,greenland, chili.. goes on and on
not sure who that math works out but those are the main ones relative to the weather in their geographic areas.
i think its somewhere in the 80+% though?
lol @ people junking my posts as opposed to have a counter arguement
*imagines children throwing their toys in the sand and stomping off*
Prove it! There are fewer than one thousand glaciers that have been studied or are being studied should be easy to prove me wrong..
lol just google it, all the stuff is pretty easily accesable to the public, which actually scars me even more so that there are still denialists with their heads in the sand.
then i would suggest following the funding of the results to examine if there is any inherent bias.
See that everyone funding is the culprit.. Now Government funding means never having to come up with a conclusion to please your masters and get more funding.. Are you really that dense?
can you please stop digressing so i can make you look stupid on one topic at a time?
thank you!
so yeah, im gonna pay you "mr science" to do a report for me that shows that global warming is good for you, like DDT in the 60's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhkRXPd2AdA
delicious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQzx2ZyaSbw&NR=1
by the way, i think this clip was taken from the gerson documentary
which is also another good documentary or read "gerson miracle"
"then i would suggest following the funding of the results to examine if there is any inherent bias."
Look everyone I am digressing from his point of following funding for inherent bias, no wait.. ahhh, never mind.
i can counter the number of "global warming is good for me" studies done on one hand if i look em all up. the ones submitted as reinforcement for the growing de-glaciation of the planet are in the hundreds and also the ones supporting subsequant climate change.
most were funded to study different things that lead them to the same result.
one thing i will give you though is that there are solar cycles to be taken into account that we as a species are still trying to understand besides the 4 year solar year and 11 year solar max cycles.
that's the funniest thing about this debate. I thought a lot of folks on here accept the power of numbers, debt included. Yet when any informed rational person points out the overwhelming number of scientists, data and studies on one side vs the other, they balk. Great posts Kyron
Made up statistics are made up.
And if you can do it so can I: There is not a single square inch of the planet that isn't being studied.
Climate science is huge. There are so many people doing this it boggles the mind. The body of written work is enormous spanning centuries. And almost without exception the evidence points to human-mediated global warming with concurrent changes in climate, ocean dynamics, atmospheric dynamics, and plant and animal distributions.
Please reference IPCC summary work on the subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_Panel_on_Climate_Change
http://www.glaciers.er.usgs.gov/
No not really all that hard... 12 seconds..
Satellites see all. Even the interior of Greenland is measured minutely over the entire extent, flows and altitudes, from which accurate mass losses are calculated. All the major ice fields and output glaciers are monitored in like manner.
It's called climate science for a reason.
Lets see if I can straighten this out for you.. Sputnik 1957, first weather satellite launched by NASA 1960. Lets help you as you obviously need it and say this first satellite and every one since studied only glaciers nothing else.. You would base your sure knowledge that man is causing these glaciers to melt on fifty years of data on a 4+/- billion year old ball of dirt orbiting a hydrogen bomb on that?
"It's called climate science for a reason."
No, its called deductive reasoning and yes common sense for a reason..
But you do admit the ice fields are melting across the globe.
That's enough progress for today.
There is plenty of time to deal with the rest. Or perhaps not. I don't really know how much time we have. But in the end we'll all be on the same page. You can count on that.
speaking of melting
my nipples melt when you talk like that...
http://www.iceagenow.com/List_of_Expanding_Glaciers.html
Okay last time.. I will argue against your religion no more. I shall go forth in thy holy chariot; prius, to seek out the goracle and chant at his oh soo warm feet.. Oh holy Al, give us something anything to believe in, our materialistic lives are so empty without you... ha
lol
DNS 404 page not found
appropriate!
I am sorry, let me hold that wee little hand of yours..
http://iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm
Found your malarial belt yet? Check the back of the closet under the shoes that's where I find them..
C'mon everyone now, check out the growth in Antarctica's ice sheets holy moly, explain that one.. I forgot, Religion requires no explanations..
just so you know, since you like the term and continue to misuse it.
malarial belt refers to the belt surrounding the planet that sconsidered the "habitable zone" for the malaria virus. virus's like poeple preffer to live in certaun conditions and usually stay in those conditions. the belt over passed decades has been growing further up and down from its equitorial happy place.
so if your going to use the the term, at least understand what it means.
now then lemme read this article you posted to see if i should continue to waste my time discussing things with you or just ignore you all together in this thread.
Yes, bonehead we all know that.. How about your contention that it is moving northward as a result of your religion, any thing to say about that or did my previous rhetorical spanking cure you?
How about that Antarctic ice sheet growth huh, where is cougar to reassert his shrinking glaciers hypothesis based on at the most 50 years data. Nothing, crickets. You better call in some bigger hitters or get back under your rock.
also don't congratulate yourself for making a counter point, as you make it.
its bad form and slightly retarded.
This happens with litigation too. As one side begins to clearly lose the argument and the evidence, they begin to substitute logic and facts with personal insult.
ive read stuff by Robert W. Felix before, the of the glacier he lists are in fact growing in density and vastness.
to those specific areas.
theres still a vast net LOSS in over all ice which will in turn lead to more melt
Felix has valid points which are true, this world will have another global ice age its true
but right now were in the midst of a heating cycle which all trends lead towards more overall heating and climate change AKA most normal weather patterns on the globe changing due to heating of the oceans.
run away cold works too using refraction as an example, but right now were net losing ice not net gaining. so the cycle works towards losing more in conjunction with CO2 atmospheric conditions.
if we had a significant event like yellowstone blowing up or something along those lines, it could throw us into the cooling trend.
also if the atlantic conveyance system stopped, theres suggested research it would start conditions for additional snowfall over the euro contenent which i stated earlier. if this was prolonged over a couple of years, the amount of reflected light could change the cycle as well.
but you have to understand, the reasons it would stop in the first place would be due to fresh water melt entering the atlantic ocean from warming in the first place.
one leads to the next.
If, if, if wishes were fishes and Al were not the high priest of your religion and Antarctic ice were not growing, if your religion did not change its name to maintain relevance no matter what the climate does. Many ifs little coherence..
I debated the local global warming hack a while back. Finished with this point, it does not matter, all your efforts are about to get creamed. There is no money left to pursue your lunacy, financial reality and economics are more powerful than your religion. Soon, very soon, the funding will slow and stop as your rhetoric gets more and more apocalyptic in a desperate bid to sustain itself. Your religion is dependant on the largesse of the Government, that is about to end. Like I told her, find another mania quick, this one has about run its course.
and sense your clearly out of steam and grasping for counter points ill leave you with this cause im hungry.
the earth has gone through periods of both higher heat aka tropical conditions in canada as well as periods of cooling AKA our ice ages and glaciation down to around the latitude of the great lakes.
the period of temperature we are in now is seemingly pointing towards an overall global warming trend which will lead to changes in climate to other reagions of the earth that will cool.
the warmth being stored mainly in the seas and landmasses which will in turn continue to melt more ice, which will lead to warmer seas, which will lead to higher amounts of precipitation, which will in turn lead to your increased snowfall and ice growth in certain areas depending upon latitude and elevation. it will also mess with the jet streams of the planet redirecting warmer and colder areas of weather further off their previously established channels.
when corporations talk about the north atlantic passageway being accessable in a few years, thats where the money is, and your proof will be.. cause they are building the infrastructure for it now.
Clearly you are the product of a higher American education
"and sense your clearly out of steam and grasping for counter points ill leave you with this cause im hungry."
I am out of steam and your apparently out of grammar check..
You are right the earth goes through cycles of which we are a gnats ass of difference. I know you want to make a difference and be relevant but Nature is Nature.. Frankly, all anyone here needs to know about the death of Global Warming is the dismantling of the Chicago Carbon Credit exchange, follow the money indeed.. This GW tick could not suck enough blood from Government to keep itself alive, it needed that exchange, its gone and so is your religion.. I hear the species extinction mania needs some good scaremongers, might want to shoot a resume over there.
Another Rense is all I see on that website. Rofl, is that all you got for defence against the obvious?
Growth is evidence of accelerated outputs, so I don't get the point actually. Melting glaciers move faster and might actually look longer in photos. But they are thinner and unstable.
The issue is mass balance; are glaciers taking on ice or shipping it out? The evidence suggests mostly the latter. Evidence in this case is mass balance calculations and not the position of the calving front.
I have to draw pictures.
I took a 3 week christmas Holiday, and the weather couldn't be better!
The kids love it! And me to! I already made 2 snowman's!
All the ski area's are open, you can langlauf to the stores and Gluhwein all around!
And for the roads: I've put spikes on my tires, and the grip is like 99%!
I did fill up all the fridges and the basement with food for the next 4 weeks. You knever know and they did put out a warning for foodshortages because trucks aren't allowed to drive in England, the north of France, The Netherlands and in Belgium for the last 2 days.
I HOPE WE GET A WHITE CHRISTMASS!!!!!!!
you put chains or studs on your tires.
chain law in effect, bitch†
audios
Make one little joke and Al Gore's Bitchez come out swingin!
Al's bitchez can start by blowing me.. Another faux crisis with big surprise only Socialism and wealth transfer can ever cure..
North Europeans can't deal with a 90 year snow storm, my god can we say wussies!!????! We NYer's will piss eat and shit all on the same snow and love it. 4 inches is now considered allot? Back in the day we had to walk 3 miles(in one direction) across frozen sewage to get to school and we liked it!
You must have had a very interesting youth...
I even bet summers where even more fun...
Re: my post above...
C'mon ass-hats, bring it on, or shut the fuck up. I am in the mood to go clown hunting today.
Give 'em hell.
You mean the money at risk post or..
The one where I ask people to state their credentials
i got a BLT from Mc'y D's instead of my Ph.D from M.I.T.
but i know things about stuff!
science is funsies!
Wait, is this the part where we act impressed?
i heart you!
:D
That's a good one!!
Oh that, Richard Lindzer called actually a conference call with Singer they both mentioned your wrong...
Huh??
Its called arguing from authority look it up.. I brought the bigger authority/hammer Richard Lindzer, MIT climate scientists says your wrong..
Hah. Lindzen is on the Big Oil payroll. Classic tool.
Know your sources:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_S._Lindzen
Thanks.... as always, follow the money.
James Hansen, climate change tool
Funding: Government TIT,
Always follow the money.. Good advice..
Keep writing those grants...
I'm an engineer in private business. No grants required.
Being able to think for oneself: Priceless.
You just lie. Anyone can keep lying and talking nonsense indefinetly in the defense of their cult; but it doesn't mean anything.
Unless I'm right.
And since I usually am (I'm an engineer, I get paid a lot to be right all the time) I win.
I'm prepared to wait and see. It matters little to me, actually. The BigOil and BigAg paid shills will enjoy their game and have a beer at the end of the day. There is nothing new about evil. The angry mob will sort them out ere the end.
You seem like a nice person but your appeal to authoritah is " I'm an engineer" LOL... Let me guess a civil engineer, perhaps an uncivil engineer.. How many people here have ever had to supervise engineers, especially ME's? I have and what a bunch of stuck in the box dull tools.. Math problems great, real thinking with real world solutions that balance design, cost and performance, ha, call in marketing.
You must be from the USA where if you don’t have a PHD people should not listen to you.
I will ask again where is your proof that Global warming is occurring? Oh what it climate change because global warming was not working out for you. With a general term like climate change it can be refuted because the climate is always changing.
The source of all life and energy is the sun. I suggest you look there for reasons the climate naturally warming cooling. Please note the sun has 27 earth year cycles.
But I’m sure with all your so called education you knew that already.
You sir are an Idiot for believing bullshit.
There isn't any proof. There is only evidence.
But there is a lot of evidence.
Learn something about the scientific method. You'll be happy you did.
Learn something about propaganda
Science research is not made up just because you say it is.
If anything, this science is propaganda meme is itself propaganda, as it has no basis in reality apart from being given as the truth. Most thinking people won't buy it. Propaganda collapses, just as all lies eventually collapse, upon its own cumbersome weight and complexity.
There is no evidence at all. none. it's amazing that you are so deluded.
Perhaps you should write a paper on that. You know, establish a publication record.
That's how it's done. Our opinions on matters are worth little.
I guess that "proves" it. What a joke.
http://www.climate-gate.org/ Note the "lie" tag on the left. Plenty of interesting reading there. If you aren't convinced that "climate change" is nothing but a code word for "government control of industry" by the time you are done reading it, you either didn't read enough, or you're nuts.
State the funding sources for climate-gate.org
Explore your reliance on arguing from authitah.. By your standards, Tyler better shut this place down... Bernanke is much smarter than all of us, economically speaking that is.. ha
You obviously have never done any scientific research. It is like a stair case, you have to take a few steps up to see further along. At first, it is blind guess work and then you learn as you go.
As for economics,
"Economics is the continuation of Ideology by other means"
Yes, yes chap so painfully obvious my lack of scientific integrity and research background.. Pull your head out, economics as in lack of money will fix your religion real good, real soon...
State your sources
Why? None of us are publishing misleading information into the public sphere. Those doing so with the intent of swaying public opinion should state up front who is funding them.
My source of income? Semi-retired, trading my own nut.
South America bitchez!
No bailouts needed, no mass currency destruction, no mass-fraud..
Oh wait, that already happened ;-)
The last time they had this much snow in Bastogne was probably 1944, when my dad and Patton came in and kicked some serious ass. Perhaps we all need to grab a snow shovel and help them out again.
you guys really knew how the shuffle snow back in those days, I'll grand you that.
God's great banana skin:
James H. Kunstler is vacationing in France this week (lol).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doPfdM0HBXg
I'm cheering for Jurassic-like global warming! But, it probably won't happen any time soon. In the mean time, I'll take the higher agricultural productivity.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/01/co2_fairytales_in_global_warmi.html
That train schedule board looks like Waterloo station.
Suppose to head out to Amsterdam tomorrow, hoping my flight isn't cancelled from Gatwick.
I think the ice age has begun as was predicted by the gulf loop current getting stuck because of the oil and corexit. Its like a conveyer belt not moving because theres grease in it. When will the media wake up to this fact? How long will the snow need to remain for them to ask questions?
well see how it works out
im curious to see how the oil thing is gonna pan out, were coming into the first storm season since the oil spill so i guess well see
i know they've already talked about exporting the fish for use in pet foods as opposed to human consumption though
Or feed it to the military.
yeah :(
that makes me sad cause it'll prolly happen
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I don't have time for educating those who stubbornly refuse to see reality... here is a 56 page Q&A for those who are willing to leave their self-serving belief systems for a while and at least consider another point of view.
But actually I don't care... me, you and/or (y)our progeny will witness the results of human activity in person sometime fairly soon.
https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1794/3929/Q%26A%...
Nice reference.... unfortunately, it is longer than the average comic book and there are not many pictures of large breasted women which means the people that should read it, won't.
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It is worth a try nonetheless!
Never know who might want to come out of Plato's cave...
LOL!
Someone junked a science based document.
Knuckles bleeding much?
I dunno it sure seems like very little snow. A few inches. Now I am Canadian but that would not even cause anyone to even miss work here. The umbrellas are ridiculous.
Let it snow!
Travelers should book trips south of the Equator where it is summer time to save all the hassle.
It is well that mankind to be so stubborn and greedy to go about normal routine disregarding the power of Nature.
Fucking wankers
I bicycle every day in 4 foot snow and I don't complain! (which means I am walking where it is not plowed)
You want to hear God laugh, Tell him your plan.
Al Gore watches THE INCONVENIENT NEWS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2O_nMSMK0w
I shouldn't really wade into this "debate" about climate change, but I will…
I don't know anything about the data but I can say this. If you take a highly nonlinear system, like the global climate, that you know is poised close to criticality (it falls into *spontaneous* ice ages every few thousand years), and you kick it up the ass as hard as you possibly can, by burning a big slice off all the fossil carbon thats been put into storage over the last few hundred million years in what is, geologically speaking, the blinking of a gnats eye while cutting down a whole lot of forest, messing with the ocean food chains and desertifying swathes of africa, its pretty optimisitic to think that you aren't going to see some climatic "bang for your buck".
That is an example of real common sense....well put
The precautionary principle is baloney...
That's not necessarily the precautionary principle.
"wade" - wink-wink, nudge-nudge, say no more...
Naturally, you were junked for a very objective and non-controversial post on a wildly polarizing topic.
Good post.
I am THIS (--) close to never reading comments on ZH again as the blog seems to have been surrounded by fools.
Still standing by for reason based comments...
I have a science background and had an open mind until I saw the data. It's a scam. It even just takes layman 30 mintues on the internet to conclude it's a scam. It it weren't, I'd be on the other side. As it is, any resources wasted on this could be going to feed the hungry and to real environmental good use. Beleive me when I say the CRU and East Anglia were caught red handed cheating. It's worse than you know.
The basics:
-CO2 is natural, has always been here, life on Earth could not exist without it
-we're actually near Earth all time lows for CO2 and temperature, 388ppm CO2; 54.5F average temp
-CO2 was >5000 ppm 450 million years ago (average has been 1200+). It is only 388 ppm now;
-we are still in an interglacial period or just coming out of the Pleistocene, but historically we're still way cold
-11,000 years ago New York city was still under a mile of ice, planet is warming without us
-After 20 years actual meas., MIT Prof Lindzen: heat energy is reradiated into space, there's no greenhouse "roof".
-every Sq meter of the planet constantly emits CO2, decay of dead stuff = 97% of CO2 is natural, man only 3%
-the vast oceans hold 5700% more CO2 than the atmosphere, and absorbs the excess atmospheric CO2
-Oceans cyclically warm* and release CO2 into atmosphere like a soda warming on a table. Repeats.
*PDO = Pacific decadal oscillations = Ocean warming cycles, which are produced by sun activity, ocean currents warm the land masses of earth
Yes, of course. In order to "have global warming", in the usual meaning; you have to eliminate the medieval warm period; otherwise it's obvious that the, very small, cooling and warming trends are not correlated to CO2. But it certainly is a viable cult and the propaganda continues.
I don't have the patience: This was posted upstream
https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1794/3929/Q%26A%20for%20Climate%20Skeptics.pdf?sequence=1
Refute what it has to say about the Medieval Warm Period
I dont know if global warming is real or not and honestly i don´t care, but these reports about beeing snowed in here in europe are totally exaggerated. I happen to live in europe and travel a lot and we´ve had much tougher winters than this one. I think they try to hide the fact they budgeted all public winter services into oblivion behind obscure headlines like "Beware the white snowterror from outer space"
Just been talking to friends stuck at Heathrow. There are planes landing/leaving, but if you were due to fly between 17th-20th, the wait is 7 days for the flight to catch up with the backlog.
The roads are clearing up in London, but the article is probably right about dismal retail sales because of the weather.
No point in going into a discussion about climate change - most here seem to think they're far smarter than all the scientists combined. Sorry, that should be all the accredited scientists combined. What a cliché to be still sneering at Al Gore after all these years.
A quick comment about the photos and not about global warming:
1. Appears to be about 6" of snow - RELAX it is not the end of the world.
2. Read a book, enjoy the time off, go have a pint, take a walk....life is to short. A week from now you can be safely cocooned in your fortress of solitude watching the world on your Ipad.
Its not global warming or climate change, it is global volatility. It does not just effect out environment. Global volatility is/will directly effect economics and politics. Global volatility is not caused by co2, it is caused by unsustainable human practices. It is natures methods of ensuring sustainability.
Please continue arguing about + 1° and ignore the extreme weather patterns.
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At risk of vindictive attack... I will say that those who think/believe/cling to ideas that humans are above nature and that our actions have no impact tend to be caught up in some sort of religious doctrine or dogma and do not care about this (sinful to them) world and its inhabitants (except for their own believing clans). Some of them are hoping to be pulled up into the sky by some savior, leaving all their earthly detritus behind while the rest of us deal with the mess they have helped make.
And so, regardless of any/all research/facts on the impacted ecosphere, they will deny any responsibility and keep their numb minds focused on some "heaven" to come - thus crapping in our Earth nest is of no concern for those types. Extremely selfish.
If any religious types would simply look at this, they would see that it is true. Only the NEXT world is important - not this one. And so let's go ahead and F*** it up for all life forms here.
I am often ashamed of my own species...
+1
Yeah I hate economists too.
But seriously, that is true of many who claim a religious belief. However, some of the most compelling ecological knowledge is found, and rigorously verified, in religion.
Sacred Ecology is a good book covering this well.
+1
Global volatility, (probably what's coming next after "chlimate change" doesn't work), is not caused by co2; it is caused by unsustainable human practices. Would you care to be more specific? This is a perfect example of magical thinking; you could probably get a job writing propaganda for the global warmers.
BWAAHHHHH
Boo hoo.........welcome to life in the midwest, suckers
Thats all for now....gotta get the better half her X-mas gift..
Thanks for taking the time to cowpunch some of the denialist freaks into their feedlot. Can't let them get too much air time without a fight. Especially since I suspect a lot of them are paid to be here, as has been demonstrated elsewhere. There are so many hot button issues right now it's hard to know what to trust any more.
Well we can start by trusting each other. Outside that, what else is there?
Cheers,
c@
Twas a pleasure indeed, thanks for your contributions. I owe it to my conscience as a human being to call people out.
Tis the work of the moment, my friend. We will look back one day and smile.
Glide the net in peace.
Europe is a big place - it's only snowed in above - say - the line with Geneva on it. the rest of "Europe" is totally unaffected.
To make an analogy, if "Canada" was totally snowed in, it would really mean nothing to Dallas, Denver or Des Moines. (Not to mention Mehico, etc.)
Usa'ers have utterly no grasp of geography, so hopefully this simple analogy will help! :)
Can someone superimpose this song to the videos/pictures in this post?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aShUFAG_WgM
Global Warming Doomsday called off. Everyone lives. They must all be ecstatic.
Trend. Southern hemishere all time record cold this year produced mass fish kills from cold near the equator.
Yes, all these organizations were duped by the hoax.......
October 21, 2009
Dear Senator:
As you consider climate change legislation, we, as leaders of scientific
organizations, write to state the consensus scientific view.
Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is
occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the
greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver.
These conclusions are based on multiple independent lines of evidence,
and contrary assertions are inconsistent with an objective assessment of
the vast body of peer-reviewed science. Moreover, there is strong
evidence that ongoing climate change will have broad impacts on
society, including the global economy and on the environment. For the
United States, climate change impacts include sea level rise for coastal
states, greater threats of extreme weather events, and increased risk of
regional water scarcity, urban heat waves, western wildfires, and the
disturbance of biological systems throughout the country. The severity
of climate change impacts is expected to increase substantially in the
coming decades.1
If we are to avoid the most severe impacts of climate change, emissions
of greenhouse gases must be dramatically reduced. In addition,
adaptation will be necessary to address those impacts that are already
unavoidable. Adaptation efforts include improved infrastructure design,
more sustainable management of water and other natural resources,
modified agricultural practices, and improved emergency responses to
storms, floods, fires and heat waves.
We in the scientific community offer our assistance to inform your
deliberations as you seek to address the impacts of climate change.
1 The conclusions in this paragraph reflect the scientific consensus represented by, forexample, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and U.S. Global Change ResearchProgram.
Signed:
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Chemical Society
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Biological Sciences
American Meteorological Society
American Society of Agronomy
American Society of Plant Biologists
American Statistical Association
Association of Ecosystem
Research Centers
Botanical Society of America
Crop Science Society of America
Ecological Society of America
Natural Science Collections Alliance
Organization of Biological Field Stations
Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
Society of Systematic Biologists
Soil Science Society of America
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
The weather debate is fruitless. We have not had enough observations really to even come up with a testable, replicable hypothesis. We are barely out of the trees on the veldt some 2.5 million years and no written word uptil what, 5k ago and we are talking as if we have a clue about the weather. Statiscally we have no viable sample. We have probably have not had a settled weather pattern because of all the 'changes' the earth has be through for say 10k years. The discussion is a a tempest in a teapot of time. SORRY for you all who want to stampede us into the end of the world as we know it due to CO2 build up.
The is climate data stored in geologic proxies going back several millions of years.
But that doesn't matter. The current round of changes in the climate are driven by human agents and all that activity is well within the reach of conventional science. The models of CO2 behavior in the atmosphere go back to Arrhenius. We've got 100 years jump on this, and the most interesting is the last 20 years. We have everything we need to figure this out.
Most people in the world are ready to make a change. Except the Saudis. And ExxonMobile. And the coal states in the US. All of whom run the US MSM engine and bend it to their will. So the "debate" must continue until something terrible happens.
Fine with me. If that's what it takes, it's actually fine with me.
Yes geologic proxies like tree rings cherry picked and mud cores that show the cause and effect of co2 and warming are reversed but that cannot be the research money would dry up..
No worries, Chicago Exchange is dead as a doornail and your religion will shortly follow as the money dries up..
So here's a simple assumption and a question.
Assume climate change is fiction, along with unicorns and a modern republican government that actually believes in limited government.
Then what do you think the consequences will be of the "death of birth"? Google that, and the Millennium Ecosystem Assessment, and let me know.
For my money, it means a buttload of hurt. And the climate community is as complicit by focusing only what makes them and big corporations money, while destroying ecological credibility among the public.
My cousin from Frankfurt was working in Newfoundland when a cat1 hurricane/subtropical storm hit us a few months ago and he had no electricity for 4 days. He was dumbfounded that such a thing could happen in Canada. He's back in Europe now.
let's call it weather...............and when it is bad we will call it bad weather..........and when it is good we will call it good weather..........................this is so cool..........when someone trys to scare us with weather we will call them asshats............sounds good!?
Dear Al Gore
FU