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So It Begins: The SEC Commences Investigation Into Goldman Sachs Trading Practices

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From GATA:

United States Securities and Exchange Commission
Washington, D.C. 20549

July 20, 2009

Chris Powell, Secretary/Treasurer
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.
7 Villa Louisa Road
Manchester, Connecticut 06043-7541

Dear Mr. Powell:

Thank
you for your letter of July 7, 2009, to Chairman Mary Schapiro of the
U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Your letter has been referred
to the SEC's Office of Investor Education and Advocacy for a response.

We
are taking your complaint regarding Goldman Sachs and its proprietary
software that may be used to manipulate the markets very seriously, and
have referred it to the appropriate people within the SEC.

Please
understand that the SEC conducts its investigations on a confidential
basis and neither confirms nor denies the existence of an investigation
unless we bring charges against someone involved. We do this to protect
the integrity and effectiveness of our investigative process and to
preserve the privacy of the individuals and entities involved. As a
result, we will not be able to provide you with any future updates on
the status of your complaint or of any pending SEC investigation.

I've
attached a flyer that describes our policy as it will apply to your
complaint. If you have any question, please contact Bonnie Dailey, an
attorney on my staff, at 202-551-6364.

Sincerely,

Gloria Smith-Hill
Branch Chief
Office of Investor Education and Advocacy




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Fri, 07/24/2009 - 01:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 07/24/2009 - 01:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/25/2009 - 00:28 | Link to Comment Glen
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Hell no. The appearance of doing something by doing nothing.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 01:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 07/24/2009 - 01:46 | Link to Comment agrotera
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God i hope the "right people within the SEC" are not inside a garbage can.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 01:49 | Link to Comment capitalisa
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Whatever.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 01:49 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 07/24/2009 - 02:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 07/24/2009 - 02:13 | Link to Comment Dont Taze Me Bro
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Gloria is going call GS tonight and it will go like this:

Gloria: Hey Lloyd, its Gloria from SEC
Lloyd: Hi honey, what’s new?
Gloria: well, some pesky lil prick wants us to investigate your firm
Lloyd: Oh
Gloria: Yea, what should I do?
Lloyd: hmmm
Gloria: This thing is starting to generate some bad PR
Lloyd: Relax! I'll have our boys in the media go on the offense
Gloria: But, what should I do Lloyd, I am scared :(
Lloyd: Send a few friendly investigators and we'll play along
Gloria: ok, you are so sweet :)
Lloyd: you too! kisses <3

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 02:47 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL  ..... i'm laughing at this for almost 15 min now

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 06:44 | Link to Comment Will Profit
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iM' laFFin so Hart I cant tipe. Too freakin' funny!!!!!!!!!!!

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 11:40 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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Gloria: By the way pet, in a few years I will be looking for a change.
Lloyd: I have you penciled in already.
Gloria: Do you think you will be able to make me an ambassador by then?
Lloyd: Sweetie, I could probably do it right now.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 02:16 | Link to Comment lenovot60
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Dog and Pony show...nothing will happen.  SEC investigation will be shared with GS to get their blessing before sharing with the public.  It just tells you how bad the SEC is...

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 02:47 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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Bingo. GS OWNS the SEC. I think the point of the "investigation" is more to shut everyone up so they can say, "Hey, we are already investigating this" or "We investigated this and found nothing" while GS keeps minting money all this time. If anybody thinks the SEC can do ANYTHING, they are sadly mistaken.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 08:14 | Link to Comment Gabriel Gray
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Quick, inform CNBS bobble heads to talk up the 24% gain that GS paid to the treasury.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 02:16 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 07/24/2009 - 02:51 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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Forgive me for being so cynical (can you really blame me?), but this "investigation" will likely have the same fate as CFTC's Silver "investigation" - the market manipulation will become MORE blatant and rampant.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 02:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 07/24/2009 - 17:03 | Link to Comment Lou629
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"A democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner..." One can only hope that things don't get to the point where the rest of that quote - "liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - comes into play.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 03:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 07/24/2009 - 03:24 | Link to Comment Keyser Soze
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These are not the trading practices you're looking for *hand wave*

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 04:09 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 07/24/2009 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Bob
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They are no more accountable than the KGB.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 04:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 07/24/2009 - 06:20 | Link to Comment DaylightWastingTime
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investigations of this sort exist for the purpose of analyzing how much criminality can be discovered so as to better reduce the potential for future discovery of criminal acts

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 06:21 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 07/24/2009 - 07:09 | Link to Comment brasil61
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by my eye ..much more important than high frequency trading..should be a detailed look into the oil runup ..I would think a simple explanation of that horror story would be something most American voters could relate too ..like to see you turn your high powered insights on that ..   

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 09:10 | Link to Comment John Self
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That could come out yet.  In the SemGroup bankruptcy, there is some pretty hotly contested litigation in which oil & gas producers have made those kinds of allegations against Goldman.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 10:21 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 07/24/2009 - 07:13 | Link to Comment Eagle
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I had my inside source at the SEC look in the filing cabinet where this complaint was filed, and the bad news I have to report is that it's BEHIND the Roswell folder. Doesn't look good for a timely review. It also had the same "seriousness" classification ranking but my source was unfamilar the the scale.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 07:11 | Link to Comment brasil61
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ps ..thanks for all you do ..love the work and spirit ...

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 07:19 | Link to Comment chindit13
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TD, in your haste to print this hopeful note, you inadvertently left out the last line, which I will repeat here for the benefit of the masses:

 

Gloria Smith-Hill
Branch Chief
Office of Investor Education and Advocacy

Securities and Exchange Commission

85 Broad St.

New York, NY 10004-2434

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 07:34 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 07/24/2009 - 07:54 | Link to Comment FischerBlack
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Dear GATA,

Thank you for your letter of July 7, 2009, to Chairman Mary Schapiro of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. As you know, your letter had been referred to the SEC's Office of Investor Education and Advocacy for a response.

Our report on the matter is below.

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp54/Pablin17/fuck_you.jpg

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 08:09 | Link to Comment Gabriel Gray
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Promptly filed under G

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 08:21 | Link to Comment mil
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The only thing more ludicrous would be putting God on trial.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 08:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 07/24/2009 - 08:54 | Link to Comment Daedal
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No one is disparaging TD. If anything he/she ought to be commended. All we're saying is that the likelyhood of SEC doing anything about it is slim. If they do indeed investigate GS, I think all of us will be more than glad.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 11:36 | Link to Comment silencedogood
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Wouldn't it be easy to simply start organizing fight club chapters where folks can meet to argue and discuss these issues vs. bitching ineffectively online?  I am ready to set one up in KY if anyone else is game.  Enough talk...action is needed.

-Silence

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 12:35 | Link to Comment Alexander Supertramp
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Word.  We deserve the mockery of CNBC half-souls if we can't maintain a shread of optimistic dignity.  Was there any other strategy other than exactly this that made our Forefathers *successful* in their day amid much worse circumstances and odds then ours are today?  See my post to Brother deadhead below, and let's stay unified.  I also note that the two SEC staffers on this letter are female.  Wonder how many of these whiny infantile ZH posters are Dudes?  I'd venture to say about the same percentage as are GS partners.  Hmmm, any correlation?  Our own version of the masculine run amok is not going to help our cause, but instead just maintain our currect financial system status quo and make us again legitimate targets of critics for all the wrong reasons.  Just take it easy, and be thankful that the feminine is there as always to rescue our sorry asses (full disclosure, I am in fact, a Dude) when we get meek and lose focus.  To Ms. Daily and Ms. Smith-Hill I say thank you for your efforts.  We're with you, and you can count on us to help.

Sat, 07/25/2009 - 01:44 | Link to Comment agrotera
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Thank you for the vote of confidence in women Alexander Supertramp! The band with your name had a great song that reminds me of your post, "Give a Little Bit".

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 12:36 | Link to Comment PrDtR
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Sent a letter to the SEC.. received the same form letter..

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 12:40 | Link to Comment Alexander Supertramp
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"If you have any question, please contact Bonnie Dailey, an attorney on my staff, at 202-551-6364."

Please tell me you called her to follow-up on your complaint.  What did she say?

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 08:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 07/24/2009 - 12:35 | Link to Comment PrDtR
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Nice one there..

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 08:57 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 07/24/2009 - 09:38 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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Sarcasm?

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 09:43 | Link to Comment jedwards
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The government, the SEC, and Obama all view Goldman Sachs as their saviors.  They believe that GS is doing whatever it takes to keep the country running, and if it means those fucktards on Wall Street make a few billion, well it's better than the alternative.  The government doesn't care about moral hazard, they care about keeping their jobs and about keeping us poor saps happy and quiet.

They believe we don't understand the great role that GS is doing, so they will pretend to answer to the populist cries, but frankly they don't give a shit.  As long as people aren't taking up arms against the government, they're happy.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 14:43 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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All correct.

However if GS takes a shot to the head in the PR domain over any of this they will quickly become "less useful". Thus as an issue of national security (whatev') they'll have to do something to paper it all over, if only long enough to drop back under the radar for another couple months. We're talking about weeks of strategic thinking now at the highest levels of the financial halls of power, the long term goal of a "stable market" evaporated in November and nothing seems to have arisen to replace it. I think this should signal that there IS nothing.

End game approaches, methinks. Politicians under the gun are actually far MORE rapacious than GS, the contrast is breathtaking. The latter are in a dangerous situation and would be quickly handed their corporate head on a plate if 1) their utility in massaging "consumer sentiment" via the markets became impaired, and 2) some powerful politician needed a high-level patsy to take a fall to provide additional padding against the coming public outcry as the last gambit unwinds.

As such my impression is that GS is doomed, I'd give them even odds of weathering the next 6 months intact. I wonder if they've been sufficiently warned already. It would explain the hieghtened, open level of looting they seem to have adopted. Game over; grab what you can and hit the roof running for the helicopter pad.

If TPTB really are playing this like an end game, then the rest of us are pwned.

cougar

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 10:06 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 07/24/2009 - 10:50 | Link to Comment deadhead
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It's not that I don't share the cynicism about the SEC properly investigating GS, but the only way that the matter can be resolved is through constant pressure and light on the subject matter.

 

Let's all just keep hammering away as it is our best chance for success.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 11:51 | Link to Comment Alexander Supertramp
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Nice work, best post in this thread.  Overdosing on pessimistic sarcasm does not help us, funny as it may be to read.  Just take it easy, all it takes is one person with a conscience at the SEC (or FBI, for that matter) to light this candle.  I'm saying they exist, and I'm saying thanks in advance for sticking with it in what is an underpaid, glamourless and thankless job.  Even at ZH, there are those pulling for you.  Kick mega-ass today.  Go ahead, take the red pill and make my day.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 12:55 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 07/24/2009 - 11:51 | Link to Comment Bob
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I would suggest an online work group to develop, catalogue and track SEC complaints. 

Tyler, you have the "soldiers", the knowledge and the IT resources. 

How about we bring this scandal forward in a public way that is both qualitatively and quantitatively meaningful?

Otherwise, we're left to our impotent cynicism, which serves little useful purpose.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 13:37 | Link to Comment BoeingSpaceliner797
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Bob,

 

I second that motion.

Sat, 07/25/2009 - 01:49 | Link to Comment agrotera
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Awesome idea Bob!

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 07/24/2009 - 11:21 | Link to Comment Milton
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The response from the SEC was computer generated.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 11:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 07/24/2009 - 11:37 | Link to Comment dnarby
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They need to follow up with a FOIA & class action suit.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 07/24/2009 - 17:24 | Link to Comment silencedogood
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Tyler and Marla have a stunning opportunity to bring about fundamental change.  Our society is on the precipice of an egalitarian state ruled by corporations vs. the representative republic we were created to be.  Tyler and Marla’s and their high speed team’s Zerohedge website is triggering the questioning of the status quo and bringing to light egregious financial practices that have crippled not only the United States but the worlds economies causing incredible harm to innocent people.  Our political system has been hijacked by corporations thru the “lobbyists” and “political donation” scams that turn hard working public servants into political whores for corporations instead of serving the public good as they were elected to do.  I ask that Tyler and Marla create a special forum in the forums room where we can gather by state and start to actively organize so that Zerohedge followers may meet and communicate and….eventually protest the stunning rape of our country by corporations and their paid political lackeys.  Until we can do this, sending e-mails and letter to politicians will be useless.  It is time to start to actively organize so that we can communicate as a TEAM to the people rather than allowing the masses to get their daily news from the corporate news broadcasting circus and other such corporate controlled news outlets.   What say you?

-Silence Dogood

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 18:01 | Link to Comment Alexander Supertramp
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You are a man of action, Ben Franklin icon guy.  I dig your style, man.  You've already begun the organizing no matter what Tyler and Marla might choose.  Check www.lebowskiparty.com and see if anything trips your trigger.  We can collaborate from there in whatever form it might take if interested (Tyler and Marla already have that info).  New social order, sensible economic reform and a viable third political party for the masses (in which I proudly count myself) are all aggregated there.  What else do we need to make this dance floor happen?

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 18:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 07/25/2009 - 16:52 | Link to Comment silencedogood
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Anon 15055, that has to be one of the best insults I have 'heard' in a long time.  I love coming to Zerohedge.com not only for the incredible information censored from the mainstream press but for the pithy comments and the screamingly hilarious insults and witty rejoiners!  I haven't laughed this hard in years!  Thank you for that....

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Fri, 07/24/2009 - 12:17 | Link to Comment cdub
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Just let GS build a perfect market short position and then they'd be glad to turn off the HFT computers for a few weeks to see if they alter market pricing.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 12:37 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 07/24/2009 - 14:15 | Link to Comment ShankyS
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Get Ron Paul as President is the only thing I see that could make a difference. 

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 13:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 07/24/2009 - 14:58 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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Word to the wiser, disconnect your computer from the Internet.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 15:50 | Link to Comment BoeingSpaceliner797
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unfortunately, that is all too true.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 14:57 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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In other news:

 

Washington, D.C., July 23, 2009 — The Securities and Exchange Commission today charged a trader located in Kuwait and three related foreign entities for engaging in an illicit scheme through which they reaped millions of dollars in profits when trading around hoax offers to acquire U.S. companies. The SEC has obtained an emergency court order to freeze more than $5 million in trading profits located in various U.S. accounts in their names.

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