So Much For Austerity: Greece Has Already Overspent In Just The First Two Months Of The Year

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Thu, 04/08/2010 - 15:37 | 291967 bugs_
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Race to the end of the tracks.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 15:37 | 291968 holdinmyown
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What is surprising about this is that ALL of the Greek ministries haven't spent more than they should in the first 2 months.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 15:39 | 291971 Eally Ucked
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Don't be so concerned about Greece, how much US spending on food stamps and extended unemployment payments and other shit. Lets look what we do here to prevent popular uprising, is it any different than Greece? The only difference is printing press and everybody is proud of strenght of it! Hurrah! we have press so we are much better than those low lives!

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 15:43 | 291979 DoChenRollingBearing
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I will watch closely to see if/how California follows Greece into insolvency.

The train wreck does appear to be in sight.  Although I have been watching for it for a long time.

Repent!  The end is near.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 15:48 | 291990 truont
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The Greek Govt will only tighten their spending when they A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y have to.

They are playing a game of chicken, betting that they will get bailed out by EU, IMF, or Benny-Boy (or perhaps even Asia?)

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 18:06 | 292181 Oracle of Kypseli
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Let's say the have to.

The bail out will only be temporary. 3 months later more will be needed. the catch 22 situation is real.

No government can stay in power, if austerity measures are implemented.

Between the anarchists (the Greek Zorba-like free spirit is at work here) and the opposition of whichever government is in power, will demonstrate to the nth degree of destruction and chaos will indeed ensue.

There are no pleasant solutions here.

And elsewhere? Ireland, Portugal, UK, USA, China, Spain, Italy, even tiny Luxemburg let alone the eastern block. The list goes on and on.

Two options:

  1. Head for the mountains (for the old folks)
  2. Reclaim your government. (for the younger ones)

At least here in the US we have our guns and ammo.

I have already reserved a spot for me in the Andes.

Fri, 04/09/2010 - 00:14 | 292619 perchprism
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The Romans had a political out in times of dire national distress:  elect a dictator for 6 months or a year.  He would reign supreme for that time period, and provide cover for the Senators who could not otherwise possibly vote for what they all knew was necessary.  This was when Rome was still a Republic, of course.

So the dictator could order into being all the unpopular decisions and austerity budgets.  Makes sense to me.

Fri, 04/09/2010 - 07:30 | 292868 Adam Neira
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Another example from history, circa 600 bc is Solon. He came in and basically saved the Athenian State. There is a way out of the global mess but real wisdom is required. A modern day Solon is required. He will work with other righteous people. G-d is just. He always makes sure that a certain number of truly righteous individuals are left down here on terra-firma to hold the very fabric of the universe together. As history attests wisdom flows through the zeitgeist to the most righteous of an age. All the pieces of the divine jigsaw puzzle are falling into place...G-d has a plan !

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 15:49 | 291994 Al Huxley
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Spend/claim as much as possible BEFORE the austerity measures are imposed and enforced, or before the default occurs.  Good strategy on the part of the greeks.

Fri, 04/09/2010 - 04:35 | 292812 nathan1234
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Exactly. That's what they are doing. Spend what's budgeted and worry about defaults as and when it occurs.

Fresh lenders will be taken to the cleaners

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 16:00 | 292007 Shameful
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Out of the gov handbook

"When in doubt double spending."

"If things are bad, double spending"

"If things are good, double spending"

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 16:01 | 292010 MsCreant
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I think you all give the playas too much credit. Bureaucracies are too big, left and right hands do not know what the other is doing, redundancies and inefficiencies pervade the system. They aren't planning anything. It is just happening.

O-U-T O-F C-O-N-T-R-O-L 

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 17:23 | 292137 tmosley
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I agree.  In general, one should never blame on conspiracy what one can blame on incompetence. 

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 17:41 | 292153 carbonmutant
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The culture of corruption isn't going away just because they've been promised a bailout.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 19:26 | 292305 Lux Fiat
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Shades of 1931.  By the time some countries finally hammered out the terms of loans to support others, things were already moving beyond the event horizon.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 20:53 | 292402 Miles Kendig
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Pure momo fo sho

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 16:10 | 292027 hedgeless_horseman
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....the department of health insurance for the self-employed...

I wonder if they also have a

  • Dep't of food for those with actual jobs
  • Dep't of transportation for those who can afford gas
  • Dep't of shelter for the one's who are not suckin' on the .gov tit
Thu, 04/08/2010 - 18:21 | 292197 Oracle of Kypseli
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BTW: Health insurance in Greece is a coupon method. Something that we may end up instituting here in the US of A, if we overuse the system as determined by the Obama 129 agencies. 

The only good thing is that the coupons can be traded sold exchanged etc. (Illegally of course. as the people are fighting corruption with their own version of corruption.)

Evading tax has been turned into a form of a national sport. The name of the sport is called survive the big government.

Small companies hire each others relatives on the books and claim their meager salaries as deductions. No money changes hands. Only on paper. companies have to pay for some benefits only.

Hundreds of similar schemes. part of the game of surviving the big bro. 

The relatives pay no taxes and get health insurance.  


Thu, 04/08/2010 - 20:56 | 292405 Miles Kendig
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Sounds like swapping insurance cards here in the US or purchasing burnt out light bulbs to swap out when in a public space or at work...

Fri, 04/09/2010 - 00:18 | 292622 perchprism
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Dunno, but they've got  The Ministry of Economy, Competitiveness and the Marine.



Thu, 04/08/2010 - 16:12 | 292033 InsanePonziClown
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that one's easy to figure, when you know you're company is going bankrupt, everyone steals the office supplies, everyone

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 16:23 | 292056 mikla
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+1, that's exactly what's happening.

Similarly, have you ever filled out your "weekly progress report" about stuff you got done this month, when a significant part of that time was spent in the streets rioting?  You need to be paid overtime to process the government checks that it's your job to mail out.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 17:42 | 292156 carbonmutant
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Thu, 04/08/2010 - 16:21 | 292048 MacedonianGlory
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The Socialist Govt tries to destroy Greece. Socialists created the enormous debt back in the 80's and were re-elected 6 months ago promising money to the people, saying "money do exist". Now GAP (PM) is hidding as Greek people feels painful austerity measures that lead them to poverty.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 16:50 | 292093 SimpleSimon
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Ben is retrofitting his helicopters to get them to be able to fly the Atlantic, drop some loads, then fly back.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 17:08 | 292120 seventree
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C130 Hercules rigged for pallet drops.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 16:56 | 292100 nedwardkelly
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Haha, of course everyone department is going to spend money 'ahead of schedule'. Once it's spent, noone can tell you not to spend it.


(I'm not sure spending 18.2% in two months is anything to get hysterical about... Wouldn't ~16.7% be what was allocated?)

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 17:01 | 292113 holdinmyown
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Exactly.  What else would you do if you were the Greek gov't?  The gig is up so party-on until all other gov'ts around you fall with you.  Don't let up until absolutely necessary.  This party is going to crash but Greece won't be the only one with a hangover.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 16:55 | 292103 rsi1
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Wow, this is looting, they know this is going to implode, so take advantage of the system while you can. it looks like a lost cause.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 17:07 | 292116 Mongo
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Thu, 04/08/2010 - 17:08 | 292119 Mark of Zerro
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Drachma...come to daddy!



Thu, 04/08/2010 - 17:10 | 292124 BlackBeard
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Once a junkie...

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 17:31 | 292144 buzzsaw99
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i admire that actually

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 19:34 | 292310 plocequ1
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This Greece shit is nothing but a Plug, A cork, A piece of putrefied Fecal matter stuck in the Asshole of progress causing severe constipation. We need to flush out all the dead Feces from the Asshole if we are going to get anywhere. In the mean time, Rally on. I knew the market would go up today,. ZH, Shorts are taking it up the Asshole of progress. Nothing like a good Bowel movement.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 19:35 | 292322 Lux Fiat
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I hereby dub thee Sir (or Lady) Proktos.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 20:52 | 292385 plocequ1
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Thank you. I do so accept the privlidge. Being a short is a pain in my dirty Rectum. GS up over $3.00 on Greek news. Excuse me whilst i insert an Enema up my Royal Ass.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 19:31 | 292313 Lux Fiat
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Greece has been trying to claim kinship to emerging markets in yet another bizaare "marketing" attempt to gin up interest in their bonds.

I think the theme music to their road show (assuming it happens) should be a Prince variant -  "Tonight we're going to party like it's 1998..."

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 21:24 | 292432 Miles Kendig
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G-Pap doing Day's of our Lives, live and in color!

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 23:35 | 292584 Lux Fiat
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I heard he's going back in a couple of weeks for an encore.

Edit - Oopps, they just changed the line up.  Instead of the Pap-whatever-ster, they are looking to have some regular Athenians make an appearance instead.  You know, keepin' it (or makin' it) real...

Fri, 04/09/2010 - 08:59 | 292945 MsCreant
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Would that be a G-Pap smear?

Fri, 04/09/2010 - 09:21 | 292961 Miles Kendig
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@ 14%+ on the 3m?  Hardly.  He is running headlong into the hard, unforgiving wall called objective circumstances .. as the food stamps get collected and the trailer parks evacuated in sunny southern Europe while the termites choke on the splinters. 

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 21:05 | 292419 Buck Johnson
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Why did this information come out, it's because they are gearing up the world and the markets to know that EU will not bail Greece out.  Trying to make them out as incompetent, foolish, greedy etc. etc..  And in so doing they can rationalize their reasons for not bailing them out.  And one of the posters where correct, if a bailout was signed and sealed tomorrow 3 to 4 months from know they would need another bailout and then another and another.  And thats not even saying anything to what will happen for the rest of the PIIGS.  A country of 11 million people who have 1,400 Islands where most of them are uninhabited (about 1,175 don't have anybody living there).  If they want money they should ante up property/territory as collateral or just let them buy it outright and considered soverign territory of said loan countries (France, Germany whomever).


When Greece govt. officials over the past weeks been saying this or that and going back on things they said even hours after the incident, tells me that they are desperate.

Fri, 04/09/2010 - 04:54 | 292817 nathan1234
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They should sell some of these islands to GS. And after the event  raise annual property taxes on full islands owned to 50% of purchase value.

GS should get it a$$ buggered.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 21:53 | 292470 Captain Willard
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The Colonels of our youth are coming back to Greece.... they will bring martial law, austerity, devaluation and official theft.

I give civilian government in Greece no more than 6 months.

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