So Much For The McDonalds Jobs Renaissance: Burger Maker To "Hire" Computers Going Forward

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Tue, 05/17/2011 - 09:55 | 1282685 TheTmfreak
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Subway already does this. Funny because that was what Subway used to be known for. (Interacting with your sandwich "Artist")

Their food sucks now. Not surprisingly.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:06 | 1282716 Dr. Richard Head
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Mmmmmmm.....Fiat Food. 

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:20 | 1282782 Left Right Wrong
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Have you guys ever been to an international McDonalds?  Incredibly different experience, not just for a tourist like me but for all of the local people too.  I was trying to party in Morocco one time and the most popular damn place was the McDonalds!  There was a live band in the back, everyone was on their laptops for the free WiFi, it was well lit, exceptionally clean, and offered a nice respite from 24/7 Moroccan food (plus the golden arch fez on the cashier was just adorable).  However, had to go to an underground place to secure myself a nice G&T.


Much different experience in America though.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:21 | 1282818 Oh regional Indian
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It's true here in India. In fact some of the fancier ones (McD's) have doormen! i near fell flat on my face when I saw that. And some of their Indianised food is supposedly tasty even.

BUt it's all machine food now. With electronic cashiers, more so than ever.

We're becoming borgs in ways we don't even realize.


Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:28 | 1282859 vxpatel
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it's funny to watch the 'indian shining upper middle class crowd' pay top INR for white trash dining...Pizza Hut, Subway , Dominoes, KFC etc...

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:39 | 1282914 Oh regional Indian
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Too true. People actually dress up to for "dinner" to these places. 


Tue, 05/17/2011 - 12:45 | 1283442 aerojet
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Well, Indian food is good and all, but try eating it 24/7 and you, too, would enjoy the typical American "slumming" experience.  If they only knew, though...

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 12:42 | 1283443 aerojet
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Well, Indian food is good and all, but try eating it 24/7 and you, too, would enjoy the typical American "slumming" experience.  If they only knew, though...

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:32 | 1282870 Dr. Richard Head
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Unfortunately the I have not left the Amerikant prison except for Canada eh.  America, Canada's Mexico.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:34 | 1282877 ElvisDog
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It's funny (to me anyway) that McDonalds is trying to become the Starbucks of fast food. People tell me their coffee is good too.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:39 | 1282901 Dr. Richard Head
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I love diarrhea as much as the next guy, but I find it hard to eat their garbage since Ronald put his hands out to the taxpayer as well. 

Think about how much better the world would be without the taxpayer propping up the undesirables of this world. 

Just thinking about this gave me a chubby.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:15 | 1283043 Brevard Times
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Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:50 | 1282950 serotonindumptruck
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I generally make a conscious decision to never eat the infectious waste that is served at this particular establishment, however I did order a meal from MD while visiting Rotterdam back in '87. I only knew a few words of Dutch, so the ordering process was a bit confusing. I think I still have the receipt in a souvenir box somewhere. I'm not sure exactly why I decided to keep it.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:03 | 1282719 Fish Gone Bad
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Has anyone noticed that Timothy "Eraser Head" Geithner looks considerably like the creepy original McDonald's Hamburgler? 

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:32 | 1282882 r101958
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Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:04 | 1282725 Ahmeexnal
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So the much touted McHiring was nothing more than an act. Hypocrisy.

Speaking of hypocrisy, the Governator, who used any and all oportunnities to attack illegal mexican aliens has just admitted that he has a half mexican son:


Donald Trump no go in 2012.

Terminator no go in 2012.


Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:15 | 1282760 Derpin USA
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Arnold can't be president. He wasn't born in Kenya.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:20 | 1282801 c0ncerned citizen
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I knew he was a Keynesian!!!

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:22 | 1282822 c0ncerned citizen
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I knew he was a Keynesian!!

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:29 | 1282851 American Sucker
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Now?  Their food was always terrible.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 17:33 | 1284783 Rainman
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agree....if you could eat a picture of the burger you're supposed to get maybe it would taste better.

Copper slang for a burger and fries is gut bomb and a sack of snakes. They are major consumers.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:37 | 1282905 max2205
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Sooo, now they will fire those 50,000 people they just hired last month? or was it last week. These Corp boys need a PR Road Map

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 12:01 | 1282998 sun tzu
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In most major America cities, a good chunk of the population is illiterate (47% illiteracy in Detoilet). Those people are the customer base for McDonalds. Dumbed down food for a dumbed down population

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 09:59 | 1282688 Doode
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It was inevitable with the advent of both Asimo and Watson. They will merge those together and make them cheap in about 10 years and then first 10% then 20% then 50% of the labor force will become unemployable within another decade or so. Fun times are coming!

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:13 | 1282749 topcallingtroll
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There are always potential jobs available for everyone. Legal liability and regulatory barriers cause unemployment.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:18 | 1282785 Derpin USA
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Yeah, because people who make $7/hour are living like kings. Let's cut it in half so we can magically claim unemployment is lower. Damn those OSHA requirements for a safe work environment. Just faggy liberal red tape that makes good, white businessmen cry into their pillows at night.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:04 | 1283008 sun tzu
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Those blue-eyed devils always keepin the brothas down. 

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:21 | 1282796 Doode
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Heh, I have been working for years on the forefront of making people absolete. I am saying that a new societal order will be required because there will be virtually 0 humans employed in services/manufacturing fields. Most clerical and even a lot of white color jobs will not be outsourced, but permanently replacedwith machines as well. I would say you will start seeing it in the next 10 years culminating in about 20-30 years from now.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:06 | 1283004 theopco
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Oh we're already seeing it. The fact is that we only need a small fraction of the populace to produce everything anyone might need or want. The vast majority of people today are doing make-work jobs, even now. Pushing paper selling paper- corporate and government bureaucrats. The trend will continue. In the end, once we find a way to adjust to this reality, it could be a good thing. But we are living in the past, and there will be great pain until we change the nature of our hierarchies.

In the middle ages, it took the peasantry about 10 hours of labor a week to provide for themselves and their masters. Something to think about.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:11 | 1283030 sun tzu
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The homeless will purchase the millions of cars and electronic gadgets produced by the machines and robots.

In reality, there are a few jobs that robots and computers can't do. Construction, maintenance and repairs on machinery, medical field, fine dining, farming, etc. 

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:32 | 1283112 buzzard
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Farming... now there's a thought. Why don't we all become farmers before the rush?

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 12:03 | 1283283 sun tzu
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I guess farming is beneath the elites like you. How about construction? Electrician? Plumbing? There will still be jobs, but not enough for 6 billion people. 

Wed, 05/18/2011 - 00:31 | 1286026 aka_ces
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For a long time the advent of robots was supposed to free all humanity to a life of leisure.  Perhaps the actual has something to do w/ concentration of wealth and of ownership of capital ?

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 12:16 | 1282869 carbonmutant
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Who needs robots if you have a cell phone and a vending machine?

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:04 | 1283000 NumberNone
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Without people, who videos the transgender beatdowns? 

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 20:45 | 1285400 StychoKiller
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I'm reminded of the Nutrimatic™ Drink Machine from the Sirius Cybernetics® Corp...

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 09:59 | 1282691 SwingForce
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Good luck with that, people are too stupid to know The Benbernank is killing them, you think they can order a happy meal on their own? Where's the NO PICKLES button? Ha.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:06 | 1283020 blunderdog
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This is what I was thinking.  Half the customers don't know what they want after waiting on line for 10 minutes, don't see a self-order line helping that.

On the other hand, it could eliminate the half-hour delays that always result from someone being handed their bag and saying, "Hey!  I ordered pies, not fries!"

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 20:49 | 1285403 StychoKiller
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It's right next to the 'Any' key...

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:00 | 1282692 hedgeless_horseman
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Already happening at Home Depots, too, with self-checkout. 


Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:04 | 1282696 bob_dabolina
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Walmart has self-checkout and many other places.

Soon to be replaced:

Gas station attendants

Wouldn't surprise me if the BLS adds jobs done by computers to the labor statistics to put some really rosey lipstick on this pig.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:08 | 1282712 Cognitive Dissonance
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Gas station attendants have already gone the way of the dodo bird unless you live in NJ. Or are you talking about the person inside the convenience store that sells gas to get you to buy the coffee and muffins?

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:08 | 1282737 bob_dabolina
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If you add a cash feature at the pump to accompany the credit/debit feature and replace the convenience store attendant with a vending machine type machine then you have eliminated those jobs right there.

You might need a guy to come by periodically to facilitate restocking/refueling.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:21 | 1282791 tmosley
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That is tremendously capital intensive.  Raise the minimum wage a few more time and that might happen.  Further, the likelihood of vandalism destroying said capital would be too high for most convenience store owners to handle.  Further, beer and wine sales would be difficult or impossible without human judgement.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:29 | 1282848 bob_dabolina
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Capital Intensive?

In the first year you would be saving $15,080 in a state with a minimum wage of $7.25 p/h. A state where it is higher, let's say where min wage is $8 p/h you are saving $16,000. This assumes 1 employee working a typical 40 hour week.

Over the course of 10 years you will save (with the conservative $7.25 p/h) roughly (not taking into account future min wage increases over a 10 year period) $150,000. And that is PER employee, which many stations have several employees on the pay roll and stay open 24/7. Like I said that $150,000 is for 1 employee working a standard 40 hour work week.

What is more captial intensive?

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:36 | 1282893 Sgt.Sausage
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==> In the first year you would be saving $15,080


You'd be saving quite a bit more than that. Employer share of SS and Medicare, worker's comp, unemployment, and all the various other expenses, on top of the $15 KiloBucks in salary.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:08 | 1283029 tmosley
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Have you ever been inside of a convenience store?  We're not talking about one or two vending machines here, but DOZENS.  You would need machines for coffee, machines for doughnuts, machines for candy (easy), drinks (easy), bread, milk, plates, plastic cutlery, motor oil, window washing fluid, etc, etc, etc.  How many hundreds of thousands of dollars would that number of vending machines cost?  

And again, how many are going to be destroyed each year by vandals?

If it was cheap and easy to do, it would have been done already.  Automated checkout works in grocery stores and fast food restaurants because there are other employees there.  In a convenience store, the attendant does everything from providing security, to cleaning the bathrooms to making change to restocking.  Might be able to get away with cutting down on the number of people at larger convenience stores, but you are going to need SOMEONE there, for security if nothing else.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:37 | 1283153 blunderdog
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Make the entrance/exit an armored airlock mechanism, and keep the customers under surveillance.  When the system detects vandalism, just seal the perpetrator in the airlock as he leaves, gas him into unconsciousness, and send a security-bot by to scoop him up and drop him into an onboard wood-chipper.

Sure maybe it's capital-intensive, but it would be efficient.  And anyway, they can just print more money or something.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 20:49 | 1285416 StychoKiller
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Where's a RoboCop® when ya need one? :>D

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:19 | 1283067 sun tzu
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It won't happen. The majority of convenience store profits come from alcohol and tobacco sales. You can't sell those from a vending machine. 

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