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Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:02 | 304893 Cistercian
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 Being bleeding edge and right makes enemies.Especially out of no talent sycophant cretins

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 23:35 | 305233 drwells
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"Wall Streeters" often confuse brains with a bull market in corruption and political capture.

Sat, 04/17/2010 - 02:08 | 305340 dnarby
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...Barry who?

Sat, 04/17/2010 - 20:25 | 306145 Canucklehead
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Barry is otherwise known as the Naked WallStreeter.  You know, like the Naked Cowboy only he has a briefcase instead of a guitar to cover his speedos.

Sat, 04/17/2010 - 00:53 | 305292 Cursive
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Phuck Barry Ritholtz and the shetland pony he rode in on.  I used to be a TBP regular.  Barry pissed me and most of his other regulars off in Fall of 2009.  The seminal event was that he declined an invite to speak before Congress because he didn't want to waste his time.  Well, a lot of fine people gave their blood, sweat and tears so that Mr. Ritholtz could enjoy his time.  Thank God ZH came along.

Sat, 04/17/2010 - 13:38 | 305791 Problem Is
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Buy Ritholtz's book (sarcasm)...

Barry knows all, sees all and IS the smartest guy in the room. Just ask him. He'll tell you...

Sat, 04/17/2010 - 16:06 | 305935 Nicodemus
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Amusingly both Rithholtz and Trivisonno take a pretty nice beating in the comment section of his own blog.  Trivisonno ends up losing all credibility.  Towards the end of the blog one reader sums it up pretty well...

"As for Matt – I hope you are in your teens or early twenties. Your hyper defensive and belittling responses are unseemly for anyone who has outgrown the “I’m always right” age."

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:03 | 304897 theworldisnotenough
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At least he is swinging up. I guess he needs the traffic...

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:53 | 304965 Cognitive Dissonance
Fri, 04/16/2010 - 20:03 | 304979 hungrydweller
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Wow!  GO ZH!  Nice link Mr. Dissonance.  Thanks.

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 22:49 | 305179 nonclaim
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ZH Yearly Change: +54,730.87%

I think that is how much we all gained in knowledge.

Sat, 04/17/2010 - 09:46 | 305243 hedgeless_horseman
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It is not an efficient use of efffort for the intelligent to pick on the retarded, as there are so many of the retarded.  Let it rest, Tyler, and get used to it. 

Nice response, CD.

Cheers and may you find solice, as I have tonight, retarded by EtOH via 2x the following:

2 oz cognac

1/2 oz yellow chartreuse

1/2 oz lemon juice

1/2 oz gomme syrup

dash of angastora bitters

shake and serve in a Waterford crystal deep champagne saucer (Kildare pattern-God bless Wolfe Tone).

By the way, all of you, it is a fair chance today is payday for you, so...

Enjoy the self-determined-variable-subscription-rate offer while it lasts.



Sat, 04/17/2010 - 02:08 | 305341 dnarby
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That would make a sweet pair trade.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 11:34 | 306617 Problem Is
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"This comparison of web traffic says it all."


Rithholtz Rationalizes

Rithholtz: "But my book is BRILLIANT. Why would they read ZH when they could pay me for my pompous pontifications? I AM the next Thomas Friedman... don't those dickweed ZH readers know anything?"

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:05 | 304899 casino capitalism
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I read that earlier today.  Frankly, I didn't pay much attention.  Rest assured you have a lot of credibility with people like me who are thankful for you exposing the reality of our casino financial system.  Forget about it.

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:05 | 304900 sporb
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ZH really is the best one. I haven't seen a better one. 

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:05 | 304901 Bill DeBurgh
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I stopped reading the Big Picture months ago. 90% of the posts are dull drivel. This site kicks Barry's ass sideways.

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:48 | 304960 HappyWarrior
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1,000,000 +

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 20:27 | 304999 Hansel
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Ritholtz used to do good work.  Then he got clients and stopped doing good work.  I quit reading when all his posts started being about how many different times a day you could see his fat face on TV, or what music he listens to, or him pumping his book, or how great his new proprietary software is and why you should give him your money, or his "open threads" where he asks the internet to do all his work for him.  He sucks now.

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 23:39 | 305236 drwells
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Once you're raking in the $ pontificating on the idiot box and the book tours, there's no need for further thinking. And having to listen to CNBS for 15 minutes (even if it was me being interviewed) would probably cut my IQ by half.

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 22:32 | 305156 Cookie
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Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:06 | 304902 johngaltfla
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I like Ritholtz but it was a cheap shot. He's better than that.

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 20:58 | 305038 perchprism
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The comments by both Mr. Trivisonno and Ritholtz are deliberately calculated to spark a feud with "Zero edge" a conspiracy-theory blog.



Fri, 04/16/2010 - 23:30 | 305230 johngaltfla
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Conspiracy theory blog? Just because Tyler and Co. are nice enough to let the moonbats post here does not make it a conspiracy blog, hell, I let some post at my site because they play by the rules also. But this is no conspiracy blog. Often times FACTS are displayed here along with some very prescient market analysis that many others refuse to address.

Tyler's place kicks ass.


Sun, 04/18/2010 - 01:22 | 306410 WaterWings
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John? Uh, nano-thermite.

Sat, 04/17/2010 - 02:11 | 305342 dnarby
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Not very smart to drive traffic to someone who's clearly DRINKING YOUR MILKSHAKE!



Sat, 04/17/2010 - 08:39 | 305442 Citizen of an I...
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Drinks his milkshake?  Hell. is fucking his couch.

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:09 | 304906 dark pools of soros
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does Timmay blog??

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 20:05 | 304982 hungrydweller
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No.  But you can bet his underlings read them - with ZeroHedge at the top of the list!

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:19 | 304920 Crime of the Century
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I stopped reading the Big Picture months ago.

Me too - hence the sniping. He knows where his readers went...

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:22 | 304927 Optimystic
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Barry Rithholz is a paid lackey!  He is a corrupt as they come .........he and Gary Weiss are big buddies!

Sat, 04/17/2010 - 01:18 | 305299 Cursive
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There is something to this.  Months ago I read something linked from Deep Capture that put Barry Ritholtz at the center of (if memory serves) stock market manipulation.  Interested if you have any details.


ETA: Svendtrift has the link a few posts down the page!

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:22 | 304928 10044
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Fri, 04/16/2010 - 21:42 | 304939 jdrose1985
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ZH is blowing the competition away. Enough said.

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:32 | 304940 BlackBeard
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cat fight!

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:58 | 304971 nmewn
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LOL...+ a quadrillion.

Barry lost me with his incessant self promotion...a TRUE contrarian predictor if there ever was the immortal words of Mencken;

"...the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard" ;-)

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:36 | 304945 GS is short Gold
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Ritholtz is just jealous. ZH probably does 10x the traffic BP does these days. Barry's research is excellent, but obviously he comes here for half his info.

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:37 | 304949 Pat Shuff
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$10,000 says your wrong, a matchup between one of my least favorites and lesser favorites, may the best man win.

Last time BR offered $10k money-your-mouth-is (CRA caused it) was with a blogger who drives an '85 Accord in need of repair.

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:47 | 304959 Biff Malibu
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your ripping on somebody for having the intelligence of buying a honda accord and then being able to drive the piss out of it???  

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 20:04 | 304981 Pat Shuff
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No. The car and blog are older than BR('s.)

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:38 | 304950 girl money
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I think I see what see what Trivisonno is trying to graph, but, this being a YOY comparison, if you stack the first two bars in his graph, both under the zero line, then compare with the third bar, which is above the zero line, the difference is a picture of how much lower the tax receipts are YTD compared to 2009.

He's trying to point out that there appears to be an overall improvement because the last four weeks show a 2.97% YOY improvement over the period that included the crash of March 2009.

Disagree with his conclusions, though... for an overall improvement, you need to stick to YTD YOY comparison, not slice it up for convenience. 

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:42 | 304951 percolator
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A while back I made a comment on TBP that Mish ripped apart one of his posts.  BR didn't like that and ever since none of my comments are accepted. 

I still go there to read some of his posts, but its less frequently.  Today he had a post saying that bloggers have it ass backwards when they claim people who are not paying their mortgage are contributing to the uptick in consumer spending.

This is a ridiculous comment by BR, how can 7.8 million people not paying their mortgage not be spending at least some of this money on retail purchases?

What are they doing with this money?  Its surely isn't be saved based on the savings rate though some of it is being used to pay down debt.  So that doesn't leave many other options for this money to go.

I've also noticed he seems to be quite arrogant and self righteous of late.  I think his bottom call has gone to his head.

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 20:31 | 305004 call me ahab
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"I think his bottom call has gone to his head."

no doubt

Sat, 04/17/2010 - 09:10 | 305432 dead hobo
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Hi, buddy.

I finally capitulated, this time for sure. There's too much self promotion going on over there. I'm tired of trying to educate him. He can now go back to pondering magic charts without fear of ridicule, although I have to admit it was loads of fun pointing out the weaknesses in so many of his arguments. Usually it was easier than catching fish out of a barrel. I wonder if his car has a bumper sticker "Support you local financial advisor" or "10% to God; 2 and 20 to His Assistant"?

On TBP, BR was the perfect straight man. He would lob soft balls that were so easy to hit out of the park, it became addictive to write snarky crap over there. Oh well, everyone has to grow up eventually so now I plan associate with the adults. It's not as much fun as TD runs a much higher quality joint and my shtick doesn't work here. 

PS: I think I recall several bottom calls, his memory is a little selective.

Sat, 04/17/2010 - 10:34 | 305560 call me ahab
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the way BR is shaping up in my mind is more of a pundit-  he definitely does put some stuff out there that beg for rebuttal-

but maybe that's his shtick-  he hasn't banned me yet-  so he has that going for him-

the dude can be pretty damn funny though- that's always a plus in my book- and he lets you know what he thinks w/o the sugar coating- which is also a plus-

and he is willing to take criticism- which means- although a big ego- it is not fragile






Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:41 | 304953 John Law
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This is just a guess, but with the level of information and analysis on this site I would be willing to bet Mr. Durden is a bigger and more powerful wall streeter or former wall streeter than Mr. Rithholtz.

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:45 | 304956 Biff Malibu
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Not to start a financial blog war, Barry has some good pieces and I check his site maybe once a week, but he is nothing but pompous self-promotion of his book.  He's the kind of guy that I'd like to have behind me in his fancy car when I'm driving my '85 Ford Dually 1/2 ton pickup and spray gravel all over him.  But alas, I don't have a '85 Ford Dually....  while currently Google is my homepage, Zero Hedge is the link I click on first every time I sit down at the computer.  They have opened my eyes and proven to me things that I thought were happening, but as an American steeped in Patriotism, I could not believe that one American would do to another.  they have proven to me that it is up to me to watch my own A$$ and trust no one when it comes to finances.  Thank you ZH!!!!  

Uber Pwnage!


Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:55 | 304969 merehuman
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same here. Zerohedge is the best site period!

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 19:49 | 304961 TwoJacks
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Barry is a television personality who knows a little about the market. talks a lot

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!