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Something rather disturbing from a European trading desk...

TODAY TWO LARGE MACRO FUNDS OVER HERE HAVE GONE WILDLY LONG S&P. NOT LONG. WE TALKING 250% NET LONG. IT LOOKS LIKE CONCERTED ACTION ON GDP DGRADES FROM GS AND BOFA ARE THE LETTER DELIVERED TO BEN ON QE3. HUGE DIRECTIONAL BET WITH NEW CAPITAL PUT AT WORK. MOST LIKELY THE TWO INSTITUTIONS ARE COORDINATING ACTION WITH OFFICES IN CONNECTICUT. CHECK INFLOWS OF BLUE CHIP HEDGE FUNDS IN JAN FEB. APPLY 2.5 LEVERAGE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOME 40-60BN PUT AT WORK PRIMARILY ON EMINIS AT THE MOMENT. WHETHER SOME EXTERNAL FORCE WILL LEAVE THEM HIGH AND DRY I DON'T KNOW. BUT IF ANYTHING SEEMED TO BE AT LEAST NOT TOO IRRATIONAL UP TO NOW, IN THIS THIRD WAVE, BE READY FOR REAL ROCK AND ROLL. 

 

 

 

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Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:28 | 1096721 X. Kurt OSis
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I'd like to believe that... if it wasn't for the fact that everything has been bizarro for the last few days. 

Something is up.  Which way to go, which way to go... this is nerve racking.

I want to short e-mini's so bad.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:44 | 1096795 A Man without Q...
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There's been an Executive Order to support the markets since the nuclear accident, covering most markets.  It's funny, it looked like we were going into a correction prior to the earthquake and then the order came to reverse course, but I suspect they have ended up pretty long, so now trying to throw in rumors of QE3.

There's just too much stagflation risk right now to my mind, but who the hell knows - this is not about real growth, it's all about inflating asset values, but the timing seems wrong to be going long on expectations of more QE in June...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:56 | 1096852 X. Kurt OSis
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Thus there is no fucking way to trade in this market.

The bond market has totally run out... no where left to go on spreads.  More QE at this point will send SPX to infinity.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 18:10 | 1097129 A Man without Q...
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the markets will stay irrational for as long as the central bankers want it to, or until the currency collapses.  The point is, the system is insolvent and nothing can be done to fix that without massive restructuring of the banks and insurers, so they are going to try to kill the instrument for measuring value, i.e. the currency, and they don't care how many they impoverish to achieve this goal.  The alternative explanation is they don't really know what to do, but they are most afraid of a deflationary collapse (the Keynesian Nightmare), so they will stimulate the economy to death, because their textbooks don't explain debt saturation.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 19:30 | 1097434 TradingJoe
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I concur. they cant stop printing. not now, not ever. the system will reset itself, once $ is lower then dxy 72...!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:12 | 1096604 LongSoupLine
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silver...$500...2012.

 

fuk u Bernank!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:16 | 1096636 Thomas
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It's actually spelled Fuku (which, in Japanese, loosely translates "toxic debris shoved in dark places")

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:14 | 1096608 Hondo
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We need an investigation and a full blown congressional committiee set up to get this information before CT. gets it.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:53 | 1096837 barkster
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my, what a big avatar you have, hondo. i have avatar envy.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:14 | 1096609 jkruffin
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Bawney Fwank does nawt know anyfwing abowt dis, he doesn't vwant too svee it eiver, nawt the bwankers agwin.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:18 | 1096643 I think I need ...
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u guys are a riot

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:24 | 1096970 New_Meat
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sowwy about that spittle, I'l cwean you up.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:13 | 1096610 jesse livermoore
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well well look who just caught up....   that is exactly what is being referenced

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:13 | 1096611 mmlevine
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So are we going up or down?  I'm not smart enough to decipher this message.  Thanks.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:15 | 1096635 Cocomaan
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To the moon. QE3 is now virtually guaranteed, as someone is betting that the S&P will be skyrocketing.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:22 | 1096677 mmlevine
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Shit.  I've got a boatload of puts on IWM and AAPL.  I thought the madness might be over.  Guess I'm wrong - again.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:29 | 1096716 Cocomaan
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Keep an eye out for other QE3 hints.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:32 | 1096747 RichardENixon
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Where is Randy Macho Man Savage when you need him.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:29 | 1096718 SheepDog-One
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Says who, a leaked Post-It note? Theres not even a name on it...odds on it being at most a head fake setup. 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:55 | 1096854 SheepDog-One
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Right, QE3 virtually guaranteed since a leaked post-it with 'rock n roll go long $250' was found in a Erupean gutter.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:16 | 1096639 Kaiser Sousa
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im with u...

can one of ya'll (Tyler!!!) explain the ramifications for the Fraud Market as well as what the fuck now this is gonna do to the only 2 forms of "real" money???

fucking equity bullshit...sick of this shit...........

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:17 | 1096648 tekhneek
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Up equities, down PM's.

Thanks God for another BTFD opportunity like we saw in January, February. I've been hoarding cash like crazy in anticipation of the biggest drop to date.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:32 | 1096742 disabledvet
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rrroooooow.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:14 | 1096618 Theta_Burn
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They need another crisis, no 1 will stand for QE3

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:13 | 1096933 centerline
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Already being worked on.  Just let the state budget problems fester a little while longer.  A wee little taste of austerity in the public sector, further contraction in housing and tax revenues, etc.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 19:12 | 1097376 Bicycle Repairman
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The Bernank crashs the market and the mob will be baying for QE3. And then .... QE3.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:16 | 1096624 jkruffin
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But on a real note,  how the F**K do you go 250% long? Does margin rules not apply to the vermin? Obviously not...only the sheep.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:30 | 1096725 SheepDog-One
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No, really, like...250% long fo reelz!!

LOL this all makes me laugh.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:55 | 1097092 ZeroPower
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?

I.e margin is allowed (and typically suggested from the PBs). Dont see the query here..

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:59 | 1097108 sharkbait
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Say fund with $1bln buys eminis with a notional of $2.5bln.  They are 250% long but still meeting all margin requirements.

 

Make sense?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 18:33 | 1097193 falak pema
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You go 250% long by watching that bimbo take her underwear off. That is the usual route...but these days people find strange alternative byways...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:15 | 1096629 Waterfallsparkles
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Looks like the Market is a buy.  What do they say hold your nose and buy.

Prices and valuations do not make sense but I guess you have to go with the trend and buy.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 21:04 | 1097751 Billy Bob
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I did not like the market when my momentum indicators generated a buy signal on 9/1/2010, but I bought the SPY anyhow and made a great profit into early November.  Then, I did not like the market when my momentum indicators generated a buy signal on 12/1/2010, but I bought the SPY anyway and made a nice profit into late February.  Now, I don't like the market today, but my momentum indicators generated a new Buy signal on 3/23 and I went ahead and bought the SPY anyhow.  I also bought the UWM, the QQQ, the QLD and the TNA and the JJC.

 

But what the fuck do I know.

 

Bill

Fri, 03/25/2011 - 16:50 | 1101146 ShittyLipsMcCra...
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Care to share your momentum indicators??

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:17 | 1096631 pragmatic hobo
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QE3 will cause riot in China and India, and perhaps in US as well.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 18:35 | 1097207 falak pema
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Who wants q-daffy's oil when S&P is back in vertical mode.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:17 | 1096634 Randall Cabot
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"WE TALKING 250% NET LONG."

I don't know about this-what European trading desk has guys that speak ebonics?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:17 | 1096652 Kaiser Sousa
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was that necessary???

mah' fucka...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:21 | 1096664 Sophist Economicus
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Sweden

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:39 | 1096774 Cash_is_Trash
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Haarlem, The Netherlands?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:52 | 1096829 Cash_is_Trash
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DP

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:31 | 1096732 SheepDog-One
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Fo REELZ! Personally I be 350% long silver! HA!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:38 | 1096766 ummuhhh...
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is this the nigerian prince that keeps sending me email?

he uses all caps too...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:18 | 1096646 jowenchrist
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 C O C K   S U C A Z -   time to burn washington to the ground - bang da ho !

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:26 | 1096703 Ruffcut
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That would prove nada. It is a divisional office of wall street.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:16 | 1096647 The Axe
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Someone took the other side of that trade..So what,  over-leverage, always leads one to the unemployment line....good luck Chuck

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:01 | 1096879 tekhneek
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You're right, because it's all of a sudden impossible for them to take the other side as well hedging themselves 2x? Do you really think with this volume and the way the markets are some guy with 60bn was just like eh... I'm'a go super short S&P? Look at the chart man, smell the roses. This shit's a game to these guys.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:50 | 1097078 UninterestedObserver
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LOL what volume are you referring to?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:17 | 1096650 normalcybias
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Sweet Jesus looks like Christmas in St. Barts is on again.  Bernbank seen fueling fleet of CH-47s pallet loaded $$$$$ on tarmac. fuse is lit prepare for ramp job bitches.....

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:18 | 1096653 Atomizer
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This Groundhog day flick plays on.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:25 | 1096695 jesse livermoore
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watch out for that first step,, its a dooozzy.

 

needlenose ned....

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:18 | 1096654 sabra1
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did anyone tell china yet?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:20 | 1096656 Waterfallsparkles
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That is probably why Amzn, Crm, Cmg, Aapl, Goog all went up big today.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:22 | 1096661 bob_dabolina
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So? I would have done the same thing.

-John Meriwether

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:21 | 1096663 Alea Iacta Est
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Angry, emo trader.  The CAPS gives it away.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:21 | 1096666 babylon15
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Always listen to financial advice from anonymous sources that use the phrase "rock and roll".

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:54 | 1096838 SheepDog-One
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Time to rock n roll, and go long 250%! Comical.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:38 | 1097035 serotonindumptruck
Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:21 | 1096669 spekulatn
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BTFD 250%!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:20 | 1096670 MGA_1
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Setting cruise control.... $100B / month... done.  Let's go on vacation.

-B

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:22 | 1096673 SunBlaster
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"TWO INSTITUTIONS ARE COORDINATING ACTION WITH OFFICES IN CONNECTICUT. CHECK INFLOWS OF BLUE CHIP HEDGE FUNDS IN JAN FEB."

So what institutions and whos in Connecticut?

It sounds like these guys knew about GS and BOA GPD downgrade back in Jan 2011, and if so than QE3 was decided back in Dec 2010

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:37 | 1097037 Larry Darrell
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QE(n) was decided a couple of years ago when we bailed out the banks.

Once the printing started in earnest with QE1, it was never to stop because it can't.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:22 | 1096676 TapeReader
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If you want to validate huge inflows into the CME's e-Mini S&P 500 electronic futures contract you can monitor the Order Flow Momentum of this contract in real-time here:

http://algofutures.com/

If there is monster order flow as described, it will show up on the tape.

Hope this helps.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:23 | 1096680 MGA_1
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Setting cruise control.... $100B / month... done.  Let's go on vacation.

-B

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:23 | 1096682 nonclaim
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EU funds hedging against the Euro?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:37 | 1096768 disabledvet
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Turkey just "dropped a bomb."

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:22 | 1096685 vote_libertaria...
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So if this is 'leaked' to aggresively go long that means big money wants to cash in at the highs.

 

Heeeeellllooooo.  Calling all bagholders...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:22 | 1096686 Hondo
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I think it's all BS

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:24 | 1096687 Lapri
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Do not worry, do not care. Join the NYFed and join the party. They are looking for a senior PR person. Job was posted on March 15.

http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=1423005

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:25 | 1096702 Atomizer
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Harry Wanker would be the ideal candidate.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:23 | 1096689 Waterfallsparkles
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Maybe Benie Bucks has plans to really CRASH the Dollar.

Default on Us Debt?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:23 | 1096694 DutchTreat
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I would recommend everyone to act on this message.

 

Disclaimer:

The information provided above is not a subsitute for sound financial advice from a reputable firm such as GS but who gives a rat's ass. BTFD

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:25 | 1096696 nobusiness
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RIMM job Bitchz

 

Who other than the Fed has $50 billion to bet?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:26 | 1096698 JackInTheBox
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New to the party, fellas.  I guess we didn't get the QE3 press release that found it's way to GS and JPM.  And here I thought I was part of the "in" crowd.  

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:28 | 1096709 DavidC
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How on Earth do they think this is going to work out?

DavidC

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:38 | 1096765 tekhneek
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I'm not a rocket scientist, but probably similar to QE1 and QE2...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:45 | 1096794 SheepDog-One
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So, total fail you mean?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:27 | 1096713 Josh Randall
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Silver doesn't sweat QE3

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:34 | 1097020 geminiRX
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Agreed! The only real short term threat to pm miners and the metal itself is a collapse in equities. QE can never end because the ponzi would unravel....therefore I hope some people bought some PM or miners on this dip/margin adjustment....or whatever you call it.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:27 | 1096717 BeeTee
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Seems suspect. 

For the purposes of propaganda, QE3 won't ever exist but QE2 will continue to rumble.  This means that there won't be a big fanfare in June and a grand unveiling of QE3 because it wouldn't be politically acceptable.  Instead, there will be a gentle re-test of support, which will prove solid due to behind the scenes continuing POMO.  The Bernank didn't ever say that QE2 would come to an end... 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:30 | 1096728 tekhneek
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I disagree. I get what you're saying, but at this stage in the game it doesn't make a difference if they announce it or not. The markets will just keep climbing and people will continue being clueless.

Fuckin' QE3ple.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 19:37 | 1097461 TradingJoe
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you really want to go long here, thanks for the money!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:28 | 1096722 tekhneek
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Definitely bullish for Jesus. He's supposed to be on his way back by now.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:30 | 1096724 Frank Redner
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anyone trading on this? if this is for real than i will appreciate the ZH bitchez a little bit more in the future. You can all doom here as long as you want, i would bet 10K that most of you guys are willing to drink out of chairsatans pisspot if you could frontrun QE3...   if you cant beat em, join em <evil> bitchez

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:31 | 1096731 mynhair
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Big whoop.  S&P will tank at 1360 anyway.

God told me so........

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:40 | 1096776 Sophist Economicus
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He told me 1355!   Wait till I get a hold of Him.    He talks to me through the toaster, how about you?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:11 | 1096919 prophet
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He told me 1280 in AUG98.  Been long term underweight US large caps ever since.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:34 | 1096737 bob_dabolina
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Wouldn't this be a wet dream if this was the work of anonymous or A99, or whoever the fuck they are...

Hack into some large funds and bloomies and just start fucking with shit.

If I recall in the last video they gave Ben two weeks to step down and that was about...two weeks ago.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 18:41 | 1097224 SheepDog-One
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Sure as hell would be awesome.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:45 | 1096738 bingaling
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Jeez no wonder the Dollar trades like dog shit. Goldmans call for 1.50 euro might not only be right they may have low balled it by about 6 . What happens when Japan dumps its 1 trillion in bonds over the course of a couple of months ? Thats your fucking QE3 .

Let me explain

Bank of Japan will cause a currency crisis in the Yen when they overshoot their load -

They will commence selling their large UST's en masse which will flood the US markets with dollars causing MASSIVE inflation in the US hence whoever has dollars puts them in the market as a "safe haven" being bernanke somehow keeps rates low at the same time .

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:17 | 1096946 eddiebe
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that's what I see.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:33 | 1096744 plocequ1
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Joe Weisenthal says BTFD  .

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:32 | 1096749 SheepDog-One
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Sissy Europeans, I'm goin 450% long fo reelz!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:34 | 1096753 Traianus Augustus
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Aren't hedge funds just chum for the TBTF banks?  Shark attack coming soon!!!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:48 | 1096757 SheepDog-One
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Make that 451% long.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:47 | 1096758 SheepDog-One
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500% update.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:53 | 1096843 Kaiser Sousa
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"sho ya right!!!"

now cut it out playa....

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:55 | 1096859 Cash_is_Trash
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Youz gonna silva-plate ya wheelz, sheep?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:38 | 1096771 blindman
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the vault is open and cash just appears.

why would they lock it up, ever?  not only do they have

a technology called a printing press and super computers,

they also have the political and legal framework to

steal in broad  daylight, distributing value one way and

corresponding debt the other.

they will not stop until they are removed from positions

of influence.  why would they stop?  there appears more

to steal.  they will just get bigger trucks and bigger boats

and bigger estates to put more self sufficient survival stuff.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:39 | 1096778 thepigman
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If true, they must have shit for brains. I'd just as soon be long Arkansas condos.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:50 | 1096824 Black Forest
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Prepare to go long Arkansas condos.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:03 | 1096897 tekhneek
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+250% LMAO

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:39 | 1096781 Hedgetard55
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Damn. I want to know how Tyler got ahold of my e-mail. That shit is confidential, and I'm going to sue your pants off!

 

/s/

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:43 | 1096786 Humpty Pundit
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QE3 been berry berry good to me!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:45 | 1096790 thepigman
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Get us their names. They must
be feeble minded.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:45 | 1096796 mfoste1
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this is complete bullshit....fucking warburgers!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:51 | 1096814 SheepDog-One
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Total BS I'd say, WTF is long 250% supposed to mean? If anything a big plunge is on deck. What are we to believe, that its 2008 and 'stocks' will go bananas with a whisper of more fake money being printed and everyone will finally bow down to the animal spirits and put their last dime in? Its not 2008 anymore, and the world is on fire with world war, disasters, and bankruptcies! But go buy all you like, whatever.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:53 | 1096849 Hondo
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I agree.......look at the volume.....nothing going on there.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:49 | 1096809 Piranhanoia
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does anyone really believe a puppet president has a thing to say about all this?  We aren't that naive?  

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:49 | 1096812 bbucks
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Total headfake.  Yeah right--a leak.  You all know the drill.  QE until the dollar is on the verge of collapse, stop QE until the dollar gets too strong and everyone is certain a deflationary collapse is a guarantee. Then hit the gas for more QE until the dollar becomes so weak everyone thinks hyperinflation is coming.  Wash, rinse, repeat until the air is completely out of the balloon.  I say another decade should do the trick or unless the sheeple demand it stop.   

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:56 | 1096853 Hondo
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No, he said he took a leak.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:51 | 1096815 azengrcat
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Acheter le creux putain!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:55 | 1096817 Rogerwilco
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Pro: QE(shhh)3 is now a EU-based operation

Con: Disinformation = "mega" bagholders?

To me this "leak" smells like more BS. The downside risks in U.S. markets far outweigh any possible advantages.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:06 | 1096902 SheepDog-One
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'I dont know', 'could be' 'if' 'rock n roll', sounds like a real highly positioned fund manager to me with real solid info! Or, maybe you shouldnt bring me every piece of trash you find lying around.....WIN for the sheepdog for first Fight Club reference!!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:50 | 1096823 Shermanium
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40-60 bn? Must be from Quadaffi's $$ that they siezed!!!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:53 | 1096831 dogismyth
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WOW....ZH putting to print unverified bullcrap to sway sentiment.  I thought I'd never see it here.  But alas, google ads only pay so much.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:02 | 1096887 bingaling
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Someone placed huge bets the dollar is about to nosedive into oblivion . Is that so hard to believe ?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:10 | 1096915 dogismyth
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i'm naive...and I thrive on shitsandwiches.  Is that so hard to believe?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:54 | 1096845 Convolved Man
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Assange!

Put the iPad down, Now!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:54 | 1096851 John McCloy
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Glenn Beck Fed "expose" on at 5pm.
Would love to see what the masses are being Fed. This episode will reveal how captured / if he is.
My bets on watered down.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:55 | 1096858 eddiebe
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Equities are starting to act as a hedge for fiat and bonds.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:13 | 1096936 Black Forest
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Simple logic, sounds veritable.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:57 | 1096861 thepigman
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This shit is 'sposed to
drive you bagholders in
for the kill, I think,
because you're not 'sposed to know stocks are only worth 60% of what they're selling for today.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:22 | 1096960 eddiebe
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And a T bond is worth what again?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:59 | 1096864 Blorf
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Sounds like BS to me.  If they knew QE3 was a lock they'd go ultra long commodities.  Why invest in something like S&P that only gets propped up by QE, when you can invest in something that surges with QE.

Everyone is just waiting to hand the bag off in June when QE2 ends.  The market and commodities will all tank.  After a 2 month bloodbath people will be begging for QE3.

It will the the largest BTFD of all time.

 

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:57 | 1096865 RobotTrader
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ES now pinned at the highs of the day.

Looks like "The Fix is In".

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:11 | 1096920 alien-IQ
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I'll venture to guess that RIMM is one of the very few stocks you were not holding long since it is now having a less than glorious after hours session thanks to abysmal earnings and guidance?

Aren't you just sooooo lucky?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:58 | 1096870 NotApplicable
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*wonders what Bill Gross is doing with that $45B war chest today*

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:11 | 1096932 dogismyth
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refinancing the Dubai debt?  You really think the Gross announcement and his supposed "cash out" was setting the pace for something obvious?  Bahahaha....they're all shills....the lot of them.  Off with their heads....(after we figure a way around their security)

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:00 | 1096875 Zeilschip
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I already wondered what these 6-8 point spikes in ES were at 5.40 EST today and 5.20 EST yesterday on no news. Don't know what to think of this, it's way to early to put on a trade now with QE2 still running and an at least two month pause after June.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:00 | 1096876 pauldia
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From this mornings ABC News "Presdential Planner".

"In the afternoon, the president will sit down privately with Treasury Secretary Geithner in the Oval Office."

Maybe the former N.Y. Fed Prez leaked from his one on one with the "Kinetic occupier of the Oval Office"

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:01 | 1096886 Hannibal
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HEY,..I CAN'T BE BROKE, I HAVE 481 CHECKS LEFT.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:02 | 1096890 I am Jobe
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FINRA’s “Suitability Rule” 2111 (or how to legally trade with reckless abandon)

http://marketshotnyc.com/2011/03/23/lawsuitapalooza-2012/

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:06 | 1096903 freedmon
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Will QE3 really be good for the markets at this point? At this point enough people understand what QE2 has been doing that announcing another round should just make everyone afraid of inflation.

 

I think that the Fed wants a strong dollar now. A bit of a market crash would flush out a lot of weak hands and let the TBTF buy up more. A real correction in PMs would likewise flush out anyone who's bought on margin, let JPM off the hook with some or all of its shorts, and also let the TBTF accumulate at the lows.

 

Remember that the TBTFs are still fully insolvent, and are only being saved from their masses of toxic derivatives by the changed mark-to-market rules. Bernanke and Tiny Tim's ultimate goal has to be to allow them a way to get back to solvency, and robbing people through a provoked market crash is as good a way as any.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:10 | 1096913 Verstehen
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Its all true, we are living the greatest geopolitical conspiracy in human history. It all started with Nathan Mayer Rothschild and the Napoleonic Wars. From Napoleon to Hitler to George W. Bush. They all are puppets of the greedy Jew. No wonder Nixon called them obnoxious. You must understand history to see the bigger picture.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/amidst-growing-world-doubts-abou...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:21 | 1096951 pauldia
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Listen you stupid POS. This site does tend to attract some of the lower IQ racists and unfortunately those of us who enjoy the eduducational info, we must tolerate the smell of farts like you. BTW, you cropped the rest of the image on your  avatar of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Seig heiling Nazi troops. Go back and beat off to your ebay WWII Nazi helmet.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:47 | 1097069 Verstehen
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I do not think many Americans understand the evolution of nations since most are creationists. Your government is dumbing you down. Darwin is completely marginalized. The best example are you and your prejudices. America is done. Example? 2 in 3 births in Texas are Mestizos. You are colonized before your very eyes. Wake up you fools. This is war without firing a shot. Liberalism only benefits minorities until they become the majority.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 19:50 | 1097499 Savyindallas
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Unfortunately you are right. My stupid fellow americans sat on their ass -or had their heads firmly up their ass - while our country was taken over by treasonous bastards

Fri, 03/25/2011 - 00:27 | 1098425 Dolar in a vortex
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You earned 11 junks.

It's amazing how stupid people can be.

I don't want to say ZH has jumped the shark but some of the lower intellects are truly sad.

Fri, 03/25/2011 - 00:30 | 1098426 Dolar in a vortex
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Hmmm, talk about stupid, somehow I double posted.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 18:04 | 1097120 Old. No. 7
Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:12 | 1096924 Bazooka
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This just got leaked from Wikileaks:

Crawford Perspectives see's uranus bum fucking mars and the rear rape throws earth into orbital orgasm.

However, stocks don't tank like he thought.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:13 | 1096929 Tom North
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" WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOME 40-60BN PUT AT WORK PRIMARILY ON EMINIS AT THE MOMENT. "

The contract value of eminis is $50 X futures price ~ 1300=$65k

emini Open interest at the end of Feb was around 3mil X $65k= $195 bil

so.......even if we preclude the notion of position limits as they might apply to " TWO LARGE MACRO FUNDS" , let's try & get our arms around the impact a new inflow of $60 bil would have on a market that was recently valued@ <$200 bill. I guarantee you would be seeing a far more ICBM launch-type of price action than we are.

Sounds like a load of crap......

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:14 | 1096943 dogismyth
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my charts  say we swan dive tomorrow!  my intuition says to grab extra Depends tonight at WallyWorld.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:25 | 1096979 eddiebe
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If I was holding that kind of cash I would be buying incrementally on dips.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:29 | 1097000 Zeilschip
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Yes and you're not even taking into account margin..

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:14 | 1096940 the grateful un...
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It's probably a hedged move. Most likely they have put on some massive shorts of individual stocks, and gone long the index, because as we all know the generals can go into battle without the soldiers behind them, as long as Bernanke tells them to.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:21 | 1096957 prophet
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Lots of cash at Bridgewater, GMO, even PIMCO too.

So they go long es, then they will short their selected under-performers, right?  Large caps with no dividends preferred?  Lets see here  

There was after all a dip last week.

The G7 is now actively managing the race to the bottom.  Do we really need a QE3 in that environment? 

Anybody else notice how this week is

Tsunami Awareness Week: March 20-26, 2011 ?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:22 | 1096962 trampstamp
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ES popping WTF?

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