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Something Broke: Containment Cap Removed From BP Oil Leak After Problems Encountered; Massive Increase In Spill Rate

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This is bad to very bad. Coast guard reports two deaths have occurred in the containment effort. Not all is lost - in what probably shouldn't pass for an attempt at humor yet achieves precisely that, the US coast guard said the oil flow is not completely unrestrcited, and some oil was being burned off on the surface. Nothing like a little oil rain for the already happy happy gulf region.

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Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:22 | 429056 bob_dabolina
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Time for Obama to chip while the Gulf churns. We don't need a stressed prez.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:35 | 429358 DosZap
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bob,

You assume HE cares?,he welcomes this...................it's a BIG Plus for the AGENDA.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:53 | 429621 WaterWings
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Oil rain is happening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un8co1d4zb4

Oh, and CNBC reporting potential blackouts around GoM:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/37844640

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:21 | 429058 MsCreant
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We are idiotic chimps, racing about, politicing, lawing, buying, selling, while our sea dies. Ass holes.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:35 | 429116 I need more asshats
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Yes Ms.

"Coast guard reports two deaths". Only 2? They only focus on human death.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:51 | 429185 Fish Gone Bad
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Evolutionarily speaking, real change occurs following a disaster.  Between this and Chernobyl, I am thinking we are certainly getting real change.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:25 | 429542 repete
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Would that be "Change we can believe in"?

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 17:49 | 430252 cossack55
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More like "Change we can bereave in."

Thu, 06/24/2010 - 00:13 | 430829 Ruth
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hell no that's change we can BREATHE IN!

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:18 | 429278 downrodeo
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As time passes, we won't be able to hide from this reality anymore. Yesterday I watched a video of people playing in the oil at the beach. They were operating on the assumption that you can trust the MSM when it tells you there is no risk to swimming in a little bit of oil/dispersant water. We can't pretend forever, no matter how fun it might be to do so.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:25 | 429302 knukles
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What's going to happen when we quit pretending everything is sustainable?

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:29 | 429320 downrodeo
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see my icon

 

(Hint: it's an ambigram of the word "Chaos")

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 17:52 | 430262 cossack55
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Shut your whiney mouth and boot and scoot down there to them clean and white Florida beachs and throw your kids right out there into the corexit 9500.....uh, I mean pure gulf waters.  Gots to keep them there Florida RE prices high.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:22 | 429296 Whizbang
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Yes'm a bunch of bald monkeys running around in funny hats and declaring war on things. At least you and I see the truth.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:45 | 429398 Gordon_Gekko
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A-ha...MsCreant - there you are - my favorite commenter :-)

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:13 | 429498 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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+++

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 22:58 | 430723 ElTerco
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Next stop, "Soylent Green is people!!!!"

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:22 | 429059 UGrev
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and it's "raining" oil in Louisiana and I'm sure the surrounding areas as well. Rain,oil, lightning .. fire.. hmm. 

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:22 | 429061 10044
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Goldman: buy BP now! Lol

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:23 | 429067 duo
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Workers overcome by methane gas?

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 17:25 | 430176 bingaling
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One guy was shot in the head with a glock an apparent suicide and the other died in a swimming pool accident -Idk but what are the chances 2 ?

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:22 | 429297 Muir
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It's up.

After this news.

 

29.96

+0.28 (0.94%) Real-time:   1:20PM EDT
Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:23 | 429063 Mesquite
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New Volcano..??

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:23 | 429068 Cognitive Dissonance
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I noticed while watching the live feed that it appeared they were pumping mud into the BOP choke line because the color changed, as evident in the photo above. It's a shame more have died from this insanity.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:37 | 429124 I need more asshats
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Corexit maybe?

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:52 | 429164 Cognitive Dissonance
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Click the link below for all the BP feeds. Just be warned that if you have a weak/old video card and/or a slow connection, it might crash your computer. But you'll get to see all 12 feeds, though most of them are blank. It's also higher quality video. Then you will get to see both sides of the oil plume and see that one side shows the darker oil while the backside shows the lighter color of mud. I suspect they're pumping in mud while the collection cap is off to limit as much as possible the "spill", also know as the disaster. You can also see the ROV spraying the Corexit into the plume. Or at least it was. http://mxl.fi/bpfeeds/
Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:57 | 429205 rmsnickers
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This link should work regardless of video card/connection; just select the feed you want and it will open in WMP.

 

http://data.plan9.de/akamai-bp-streams.html

 

 

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:10 | 429247 Cognitive Dissonance
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All I was saying was that some older computers on slow connections might have trouble viewing all the feeds at the same time. Click on my link and they are all live, at least the ROVs that are transmitting. No choices to make, see them all at once.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/23/gulf.oil.disaster/index.html?hpt=T2

(CNN) -- BP's containment cap over a ruptured Gulf of Mexico well was removed Wednesday after a robotic vehicle apparently bumped into a cap vent and closed it, raising the possibility of hydrates forming, said Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the government's response manager.

Allen also said that two oil recovery workers in the Gulf of Mexico have died. One died in a swimming accident; the other was an operator of a boat, he said.

Also Wednesday, the embattled oil giant tapped its managing director to lead a new and permanent oil disaster organization in the Gulf.

Dudley was appointed president and chief executive officer of BP's Gulf Coast Restoration Organization, BP said in a statement.

Dudley said the new organization was designed to enable BP to push more of the company's resources toward the overall recovery effort and to make sure the claims process is transferred smoothly to Kenneth Feinberg, the independent director of BP's $20 billion compensation fund.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:14 | 429267 TreadwCare
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A swimming accident?  A gun shot wound?  Same person or different?

Smells oily to me . . .

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:24 | 429301 WaterWings
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People are swimming!?!

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:08 | 429472 rmsnickers
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Thanks CD, I knew what you meant.  My computer crashes everytime I go to a page that has all the feeds going live; the one I linked to solves that by showing all the feeds but they are static...you just click the one you want and it opens up live.  Bottom line, mission accomplished.  Keep up the good contributions btw :)

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:12 | 429491 Cognitive Dissonance
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It's always nice to know about another link. Thanks.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 16:16 | 429892 Windemup
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What's up with the gun shot wound? Is the gun guilty of misconduct or was there someone actually handling the gun? Death by gun is either murder or suicide. It's rarely an act of errant gun.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:57 | 429209 I need more asshats
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Nothing like a wide open 16" crude oil pipe with 30,000 psi of pressure in it...

Straight to the moon Alice.

With the cap on it the pressure really builds and must have a negative impact on the sub-surface damage that was reported by BP on the 12th.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/30/AR201005...

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:59 | 429222 Marla And Me
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CD,

Completely unrelated, but thought you might like the madness exhibited in this video:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/06/23/japan.baby.robot.population/index.html?hpt=Mid

The Japanese are an odd and fascinating culture.  The amount of disconnect and their love of robots is mind boggling to me.  It's almost like human interaction isn't good enough.  Thought you might appreciate.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:34 | 429355 Cognitive Dissonance
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I watched the video and something said by the "repeater" blew my mind. "The robot will trigger human emotions, making them want to have babies." Wow. Let that sink in for a second. It takes a robot to trigger our innate reproductive instincts.

Insane.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:12 | 429481 thesapein
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You never played with dolls either?

Ah, you're insane for thinking robots are just for other robots.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 21:50 | 430628 StychoKiller
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We're on the road to an "Idiocracy."

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:07 | 429464 thesapein
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Oh, like you never played with dolls?

You just sound so old fashioned. To me, you're more odd than "them" since you believe humans shouldn't be building robots.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:56 | 429671 Marla And Me
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I never said that thesapein.  I played with dolls plenty, and now play with them for the kids to amuse them.  I have no problem with robots, at least as long as they are not Boston Dynamics robots...  However, that being said, you couldn't pay may enough to take care of an inanimate object, although to be fair, it is comparable to people who keep up religiously with online avatars - i.e. second life, World of Warcraft, The Sims, etc. - which I also don't do.

I've always been fascinated by some of the sub-cultures in Japan - the dakimakura, the Tamagotchi, the male and female "host" culture, animated porn, etc.  What I'm curious about is what is it about Japanese culture that makes them susceptible to what appears to me, as an outsider, to this extreme human disconnect where people would prefer to take care of a robot or pillows instead of a real person, or that a robot baby would be needed to make you want to have real ones.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 17:18 | 430143 tip e. canoe
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M&M : try some butoh?

kazuo ohno (who died this month at 102) in the dead sea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUjhQLB0hXY

 

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:24 | 429071 LoneStarHog
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It just might be what I posted the other day - trashed by THE DEGREED EXPERT, like no one else is degreed - that the subsurface casing has eroded further and support of the BOP is in jeopardy, as it appeared to be leaning.

I can theorize that this was done to relieve pressure at or below the BOP.

 

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:27 | 429088 Caviar Emptor
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I, for one, agree with you. I'm no expert, but observation leads me to conclude that they're covering up the worst case scenario. 

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:58 | 429212 Village Idiot
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"observation leads me to conclude that they're covering up the worst case scenario."

 

Of course they are, this is ZH. ;-0

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:49 | 429416 Gordon_Gekko
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Which is WAY the f*** better than being NYT, WaPo, WSJ etc. etc.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:40 | 429380 Cigarette Smoki...
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I still think Methane might be the worst case scenario! What if the well head is getting ready to pop?

http://www.shteconomy.com/2010/06/22/tsunamis-from-the-gulf-oil-well-is-this-for-real

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:32 | 429306 cougar_w
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You shouldn't have been trashed for saying that.

The expert opinion over at theoildrum is that the subsurface casing is toasted, maybe all the way down.

The 450 ton BOP could be falling over as the casing (which holds it up) turns to something like cardboard. If the BOP breaks off and the casing fails, then the game is completely over. They would either have to nuke it or just let it go, I guess. I don't think anyone has even hazarded a guess what would/could be done if the BOP caves. At the very least, the fleet would have to get the hell away, and right now.

They couldn't actually stop the leak because the pressure below grade would blow the casing. Maybe they had to take the cap off because even that was too much back pressure.

Christ, I just thought of something. If the bore hole is caving in and they are getting ready to bug out then they would have to pull the cap.

Oh Fuck isn't even the word for this.

[edit] Some news that they were worried about gas in the lines at the BOP, so they pulled the cap. Maybe. I don't know what to believe, these guys spin everything.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:11 | 429489 Augustus
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The casing is not turning into cardboard.  the BOP is not going to blow off, even if the nutter Matt Simmons has said that it already has.

The flow lines to the surface were plugged some way.  The capture system is getting cleaned out.  It will be back soon.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 15:44 | 429798 LoneStarHog
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All Hail Augustus Caesar!...While the rest of us post a THESIS, the salad assures us with IS NOT...IT WILL...!!!

Thank You, Oh Great Caesar!!!

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 15:50 | 429825 TuesdayBen
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Hail the All Knowing Salad!

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 16:12 | 429921 Windemup
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So,...

The rigs that are nearby will be toast too?

Buy Oil, Coal, Natural Gas while it's still cheap.

 

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 17:46 | 430247 Japhy Ryder
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Maybe it is time to vacation in Nigeria and experience a society dealing with massive oil spills and environmental impact on a daily basis.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:43 | 429072 Comrade de Chaos
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We just qualified (World Cup), yes !

 

1:0

 

o YEAH !

 

p.s. FUCK BP, their disregard to safety is well know within the industry.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:24 | 429074 JR
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Speaking of “something broke,” the entire thread on Zero Hedge’s article, General Stanley McChrystal Resigns, June 22, 2010, has been pulled.  Does anyone know why?  It began:

General Stanley McChrystal, who commands 142,000 troops in Afghanistan from the U.S. and 45 partner nations, has offered his resignation to Barack Obama. The reason for the departure is a profile of the general in Rolling Stone which shows the general as critical of the handling of the Afghanistan war…

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:26 | 429084 Tyler Durden
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Taken down for the time being as the number of comments on the thread was causing server database to crash.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:28 | 429093 JR
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Thanks.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:42 | 429144 I need more asshats
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Yea, Bruce's small thread was pulled also:

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/stuy-town-%E2%80%93-who-got-%E2%80%9Cst...

The "who got stuffed" Stuy town thread which was small but had some sensitive data in the comment section. LoL.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:58 | 429216 chumbawamba
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So what's up with that, ZH?

With all the ads and contributions and shit you fucks can't go down to Best Buy and get another hard drive?

Hmmmmmmmm.......

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:48 | 429165 Ted K
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Or it could be because offering a resignation letter isn't the same as resigning and Tyler is afraid he will look like an ass very soon.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:30 | 429329 MsCreant
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STFU!

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 17:21 | 430155 tip e. canoe
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if that was indeed the reason then dear tyler should trust his/her instincts more.

curious to know about the stuy town pull though.  hope it wasn't my squatters' paradise prediction ;~)

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:00 | 429226 Village Idiot
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I'm sending my first donation now.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:42 | 429511 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Waldorf Astoria I would totally book my res now but can't find your homepage.  Maybe you should advertise here some more nod nod wink wink.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:26 | 429545 Hephasteus
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It's weird how you post something about the military and a shit storm of gomer pyles come crawling out to correct everyones judgement.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:34 | 429112 Clycntct
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Strange stuff? maybe no news is our news.

From Google cached

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aLZrY57iNZkJ:www.ze...

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:24 | 429075 realitybiter
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"Yeah, yeah, this is Barack.  Yes.  THE president.  uh-huh.  Well thank you.  uh, looks like I need to get another round in.  Can you fit us in a tee time within the next few hours?  That'd be great.  Super.  What's that?  The greens are oily?  well.  Hmmm?  How 'bout we just go a little further North....."

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:25 | 429076 buzzsaw99
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Only two dead? Go find the families and have them sign waivers asap!

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:25 | 429077 Caviar Emptor
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Krakatoa!!

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:25 | 429080 Ragnarok
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The world is cratering around Obama... You have no clothes!!!!!!!!

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:29 | 429083 John McCloy
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 This should be good for a 220+ Dow rally. Destruction of the Gulf economy is incredibly bullish. Also Red Lobster has ceased selling Oysters as of today because they are reliant upon Gulf supply.

Wow 2 deaths..just saw that. I feel for those courageous submariners at those depths that is at a terrible way to go.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:34 | 429109 Caviar Emptor
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Agree! A clearly bullish contrarian indicator. 

Gulf coast economy is broken. Also the Western and Midwestern states economy. Northern New England is tanking, the Mid Atlantic is sluggish, the Mountain States are in trouble and Alaska/Hawaii, well, no comment. 

SO that leaves, well, NYC and some of the burbs. Although I read that Queens NY has a huge backlog of impending foreclosures.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:35 | 429118 John McCloy
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  Yeah Queens, Long Island City and soon Williamsburg/Green Point.

I am confused about those deaths. I have to assume that someone was operating MIR like submerisbles that we were unaware of? How else can the two deaths be explained.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:38 | 429128 Caviar Emptor
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Definite conspiracy theory material. Do we know the nationality of the two dead?? Or were they killed because they "knew too much". ??

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:43 | 429146 Gully Foyle
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Caviar Emptor

"Or were they killed because they "knew too much". ??"

Is there six degrees of separation from the Clintons?

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:47 | 429162 Caviar Emptor
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Bill Clinton was at the soccer game. Like we believe THAT wasn't part of the conspiracy!!

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:02 | 429233 DosZap
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Another VINCE FOSTER, where blood flows UPHILL?.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:05 | 429239 Lucky Guesst
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+100 GF

Oh no, did you really post that?  Watch your back.

BTW to everyone. Our IP address shows up every time we visit and/or post at any site. Spokeo lists your IP's associated with your name as well. You can go to tracking sites like

http://www.ip2location.com/?rid=731

http://www.n2yo.com/

and look up exactly where people live. Kinda scary.

Most probably already know this info, but just in case.........

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:27 | 429309 WaterWings
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After the USA win today Bill was shown shaking some hands and someone threw an Algerian scarf around his neck! It cut shortly after but I really, really, really hope a freeze frame or photo of that makes it to the interwebs!!

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:49 | 429176 tip e. canoe
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"Yeah Queens, Long Island City and soon Williamsburg/Green Point."

john, any idea of what this map is lookin like now?

http://nymag.com/realestate/features/57904/index1.html

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:18 | 429274 John McCloy
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   I can tell you fewer people are going to Williamsburg than in past years because there is minimal benefit because the pricing parity is close to Manhattan levels. In the search for what developers believed would be an unending increase in rental prices and co-op sales they all rushed to purchase overpriced land all along the waterfronts. Stuy Town is an excellent example as well on the Manhattan side. What they did not realized are a few things:

  • All of that inflated pricing was the result of a large amount of rent controlled and stabilized apartments that have not been unlocked to the market for decades.
  • The only reason those prices were paid was the infatuation by the younger generation after viewing Sex & The City & Friends entirely too many times artificially driving up the prices of the few available apartments.
  • The Wall Street crowd began to deviate from the Upper East side high rise midtown luxury buildings since trendy Soho/Nolita, West Village, LES and East Village living was the new desired zone. Wall Street workers do not have the same constraints such as a deviation in 400-500 dollars more monthly than their competition and is only a fraction of their yearly bonus so they pushed out value seeking competition and began competting against one another to lease in the same relative zone.
  • This led to an exodus to Williamsburg to seek fair value however the prices soon chased over the bridge because of limited supply and then boom.
  • The developers believed that like a plague this would spread & that  the yuppies/hipsters would have an endless supply of money and began buying up all property in "up and coming areas" only to find out that there is only a finite supply of Wall Street money and employees and they can afford to live in the city and will remain in the city.

  In the interim more Manhattan locations such as the South Street Seaport/ Financial district are now being built up and will become more desirable further removing demand from the Astoria/WBurg/L.I.C./Greenpoint locations and you have a large amount of oversealous developers that all had the same brilliant idea 6 years too late at the exact same time. When the Wall Street industry begins to implode again it will be a commercial bloodbath.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:42 | 429141 Gully Foyle
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Caviar Emptor

Western NY is FUCKED. Has been since the eighties. I think Hillary pimped Casinos when she ran for office.

I also imagine the Senecas will find new excruciating ways to fuck the state since they are now forced to pay taxes on Tobacco. One hopes to see the burning tire mounds blocking any interstate crossing the res.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:47 | 429159 Caviar Emptor
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Yup. Feel bad for Western NY. Nice place, but real estate is deader than a dead parrot. Getting sucked in to the rest of the Great Lakes region depression.

Just wait till they announce that the Ohio "miracle" that they've been pushing to protect big TARP banks was actually a sham. 

THe real estate news has implications for many regional banks. THink there's a wave of bank failures looming in the next few months.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:56 | 429197 Gully Foyle
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Caviar Emptor 

There are pimping WNY real estate in NYC. Relatively inexpensive for the old retirees to live.

They pimp Western NY in Puerto Rico, or so I hear. I gather they have big come visit posters. But the subtle word is easy access welfare is the carrot drawing them to the slumord houses.

It is almost time for a new religious revival in WNY. Damn near every Christian offshoot from the Shakers to the Mormons started there as well as Spiritualism big names like the Fox sisters.

 

 

 

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:01 | 429228 Caviar Emptor
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Interesting. i know there was big money sunk into W NY real estate starting about 8 years ago. Big political connections too. They were hoping to engineer a "revival". But your stuff makes more sense.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 17:24 | 430167 tip e. canoe
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gully, the god and goddess run deep in them waters fo' sho

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:08 | 429250 DosZap
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The Gulf disaster may be good for Michigan, Detroit, and NYC.........where are all WE southerners going to live, once they poison the entire SW.

And the entire Gulf area's are deemed "THE DEAD ZONE".

Seriously, the INACTION of this Administration, is CRIMINAL.

Lest WE forget, WHY the oil companies are even DRILLING at these depths..................look no further than D.C., and the Eco Nazi's.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:27 | 429312 trav7777
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This wasn't a production well.

They're drilling out there because that is the only undeveloped oil left.  All the ANWR and shallow water stuff isn't but drops compared to this.  Don't believe?  Look at where Petrobras is drilling.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:31 | 429334 WaterWings
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That's just it. People are still hoping there is a solution even thought they KNOW there isn't one. They can't make it past the denial/anger phases. Bellies and lungs full of toxins is all they'll get if they don't figure out a personal solution yesterday.

I'm on the other side of the country but I feel as unsafe as you all. I sincerely hope the best for all but the standstill only has one outcome: human megadeath.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:32 | 429342 knukles
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Cheap property for southern US "ex-patriots" to re-locate. 

 

We are Just Sooooooooooooooooooo Fucked.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:10 | 429254 Reductio ad Absurdum
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Wow 2 deaths..just saw that. I feel for those courageous submariners at those depths that is at a terrible way to go.

I don't think human beings are operating at those depths; the submarine/robot devices (that are placing caps, cutting pipes, etc.) are remote controlled. There are only a few specialized mini-subs that go down 1 mile (such as the Russian mini-subs used to film the Titanic).

Right now I have to guess that the deaths occurred at the surface. No specific information has appeared in the news.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:26 | 429085 schoolsout
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Jesus....

 

that's all I've got at the moment

 

 

Jesus.......

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:01 | 429225 Übermensch
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There are no atheists in foxholes.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:27 | 429086 The Rogue Trader
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Tyler, what is the source of this info?....looking....

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:34 | 429111 Arkadaba
Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:53 | 429196 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Reminder: NOT COMPLETELY unimpeded...

(just shoot me now)

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 16:22 | 429956 Windemup
Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:37 | 429122 VK
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Check out twitter breaking news and MSNBC as well.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:27 | 429089 schoolsout
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Oh, and I guess I should hang on to the 40 lbs of shrimp we have left over in the freezer...might not have a rec shrimp season for a while in SC.

 

 

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:33 | 429110 Currently Smoki...
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Shrimp, bitches!

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:50 | 429181 Gully Foyle
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Currently Smoki... 

Now know what TREME season two will be about. Oil must really fuck with those Indians feathers.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:59 | 429223 Careless Whisper
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@ schoolsout

yo fratboy, i suggest beer boiled shrimp.

http://www.yesyoucancook.com/beerboiledshrimp.php

 

 

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:20 | 429282 schoolsout
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Fratboy, eh?  that gave me a hearty chortle.

 

You should have seen the meal I had last night...

Grilled Mangrove Snapper, Hogfish, Shrimp and some Fresh Greenbeans.  It would put any meal from any restaurant to shame.  Just how I roll...

 

 

edit...and my hushpuppies are always beer battered.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 16:43 | 430028 CPL
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I wouldn't count on one in your lifetime ever again.  IF they can't breed for a couple of years, how will they magically restore themselves from nothingness.

 

Oh I know.

 

Jeebus!

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 22:00 | 430646 Hephasteus
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But jeebus can only multiply loaves and fishes when he has a fisherman and a hooker who likes screwing bakers in his possie.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:27 | 429090 Cursive
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I run into people who tell me this is all being overstated.  Some of those people post here.  All I would say to that, is that this story continues to worsen.  Why would you stick you neck out and suggest that we will be surprised by good news in the future?  Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:46 | 429156 Mitchman
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Augustus.  Where are you and your snarky attitude now?

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:39 | 429370 Augustus
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What do you need now, asshat?

Afraid that the GOM is going to swallow you soon?  What nonsense.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:54 | 429661 Panafrican Funk...
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Your moniker has been particularly appropriate in regards to this issue, and I would further suggest that your subconscious sympathy/jealousy/hatred/envy complex for established power elites has clouded your judgement to the point of being contrarian for it's own sake, independant of the rationality or lack thereof regarding the topic you are attempting to discuss.  Please kindly decouple your psyche from this ridiculous ass-covering by proxy.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:58 | 429210 SteveNYC
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I ran into four people from MS in NYC on the weekend. They say it's "much worse" than it is being reported. Right from the horse's mouth. I empathize with my Southern brethren.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:13 | 429260 chumbawamba
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I have a good friend who's a geologist (not that that makes him smart) who's also very smart and he is downplaying the long-term damage of this mess.  He has always maintained that, for example, more oil leaks naturally along the California coast in a year than the Exxon Valdez (something like this).

He claims that the oil will eventually evaporate and within 2-3 years the sealife will come back bigger and stronger than ever, his reasoning assuming that fishing will be banned, giving the stocks time to recover and replenish.

I don't take his word as gospel but like I said, he's a geologist, a smart one, and he's waaaaaay ahead of me on matters relating to energy (peak oil, etc.)  In fact, he's the guy that initially opened my eyes to a much scarier and more evil world than I knew existed.  It is he that is responsible for GOLD BITCHES!!

Meanwhile, you can't get a straight answer from anyone, and the only sites that one would think would be presenting reliable information are now just outlets for disinfo, misinfo and sensationalist bullshit that increases page views for ad revenue (cough cough ZERO HEDGE cough cough spit bleah at least buy some hard drives and bandwidth with that shit cough).

So I don't know what to think anymore.  So I won't.  I don't care.  Because it doesn't matter.  The fact is the Gulf is and will be polluted for years to come, and that will likely severely damage the economy along the entire Gulf coast, not to mention Mexico's and Cuba's.  This will result in the final blow that tips America over the edge, and that's what I'm looking for.

You see, here's how it is: life is way to complicated.  I have all sorts of government asshats after me in one form or another, all of them money-grubbing bitches that think I owe it to them to fill the coffers for their pensions.  Being that as it is, the only way out of this zoo is to set it alight and bust open all the cages.  Let chaos reign supreme, and under the cover of that chaos I will skulk away, never to be seen or heard from again.

So this is why I don't care.  The world is fucked.  Your world is fucked.  My world is fucked.  We are all equally fucked.  So I have no sympathy for you.  I did my part.  I tried to warn you all, but most wouldn't listen.  So fuck you.  I don't care.

We can all go to hell.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:39 | 429372 WaterWings
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This will result in the final blow that tips America over the edge, and that's what I'm looking for.

That is also my view. So what if the fishies come back bigger and better than ever - toxic rains on the plains won't help the FedGov convince the world they are good for the money. 

Expect war. Yes they will kick us while we are down. Yes they can.

(I appreciate your insight Chums)

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 16:06 | 429896 A Nanny Moose
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A-friggin-men Chumba. It is difficult to lead people to the path, when the serpent is offering free apples.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:28 | 429092 ydderf1950
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golf of mexicoil the new dead sea thanks bp

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:33 | 429108 CB
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That thing George Carlin is so famous for saying:  Mother Earth will shake off humanity like a bad case of fleas.  He was probably right.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:37 | 429123 Gully Foyle
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 CB 

Ask and ye shall receive

George Carlin!


We’re so self-important. So self-important. Everybody’s going to save something now. “Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails.” And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. What? Are these fucking people kidding me? Save the planet, we don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven’t learned how to care for one another, we’re gonna save the fucking planet?

I’m getting tired of that shit. Tired of that shit. I’m tired of fucking Earth Day, I’m tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren’t enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world save for their Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don’t give a shit about the planet. They don’t care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don’t. Not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They’re worried that some day in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me.

Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are fucked. Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We’ve been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we’ve only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years. Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we’re a threat? That somehow we’re gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that’s just a-floatin’ around the sun?

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles…hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages…And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet…the planet…the planet isn’t going anywhere. WE ARE!

We’re going away. Pack your shit, folks. We’re going away. And we won’t leave much of a trace, either. Thank God for that. Maybe a little styrofoam. Maybe. A little styrofoam. The planet’ll be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet’ll shake us off like a bad case of fleas. A surface nuisance.

You wanna know how the planet’s doing? Ask those people at Pompeii, who are frozen into position from volcanic ash, how the planet’s doing. You wanna know if the planet’s all right, ask those people in Mexico City or Armenia or a hundred other places buried under thousands of tons of earthquake rubble, if they feel like a threat to the planet this week. Or how about those people in Kilowaia, Hawaii, who built their homes right next to an active volcano, and then wonder why they have lava in the living room.

The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, ’cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed, and if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new pardigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn’t share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn’t know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, “Why are we here?” Plastic…asshole.

So, the plastic is here, our job is done, we can be phased out now. And I think that’s begun. Don’t you think that’s already started? I think, to be fair, the planet sees us as a mild threat. Something to be dealt with. And the planet can defend itself in an organized, collective way, the way a beehive or an ant colony can. A collective defense mechanism. The planet will think of something. What would you do if you were the planet? How would you defend yourself against this troublesome, pesky species? Let’s see… Viruses. Viruses might be good. They seem vulnerable to viruses. And, uh…viruses are tricky, always mutating and forming new strains whenever a vaccine is developed. Perhaps, this first virus could be one that compromises the immune system of these creatures. Perhaps a human immunodeficiency virus, making them vulnerable to all sorts of other diseases and infections that might come along. And maybe it could be spread sexually, making them a little reluctant to engage in the act of reproduction.

Well, that’s a poetic note. And it’s a start. And I can dream, can’t I? See I don’t worry about the little things: bees, trees, whales, snails. I think we’re part of a greater wisdom than we will ever understand. A higher order. Call it what you want. Know what I call it? The Big Electron. The Big Electron…whoooa. Whoooa. Whoooa. It doesn’t punish, it doesn’t reward, it doesn’t judge at all. It just is. And so are we. For a little while.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:48 | 429166 Ragnarok
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+1000000

 

Needs to be its own post.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:49 | 429177 juangrande
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I miss george already.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:58 | 429211 Horatio Beanblower
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George Carlin - "Saving the planet" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

 

A genius.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:32 | 429344 nhsadika
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Obviously our concerns over the planet begin and end with ourselves and in the middle of our concerns are creatures nearer to ourselves than an amoeba and things we can eat.

I don't think we're interested in sustainable,  but at least we could ride out our greed/rape of the earth over a longer time scale.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:03 | 429442 CB
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thank you gully.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:49 | 429634 Cathartes Aura
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So, the plastic is here, our job is done, we can be phased out now.

 

and not a moment too soon. . .

thanks for that reality break Gully.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 16:15 | 429932 A Nanny Moose
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Earth plus Plastic!

Carlin was one of the greats. There was a certain wisdom in his comedy. He is truly missed

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:06 | 429458 w a l k - a w a y
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George was on message in this performance.

George Carlin - Saving The planet

 

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:35 | 429113 Xibalba
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So this is what 90% containment looks like, eh?

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:35 | 429114 Yes We Can. But...
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Jesus Christ.  Turn your screen upside down and it is like watching the space shuttle lift-off

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:02 | 429232 Max Hunter
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As much as this is not a laughing matter.. I nearly spewed liquid through my nose after reading that..

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:35 | 429115 buzzsaw99
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Don't worry, the press has already said the dead workers have no case:

The deaths reported Wednesday were not tied to the containment operation. The Coast Guard said the workers had been involved in cleanup operations did that their deaths did not appear to be work related. Details were not immediately available.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37841204/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf/?ns=disaster_in_the_gulf

 

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:43 | 429147 -Michelle-
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One death was a boat captain who died of a gunshot wound, a Coast Guard spokesman sai.d Further details were not immediately available.

What did he see?

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:53 | 429195 Currently Smoki...
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Nice how the coverage breezes right by that little fact.

After the bullying tactics we've seen, my inner cynic says that the shooting and killing of a boat captain was probably not an "accident".

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:59 | 429219 Brindle702
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... agreed ... I'd love to find out the rest of the story on this one

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 16:48 | 430043 CPL
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back and to the left

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:35 | 429361 MayIMommaDogFac...
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In a bizarre tragedy, the boat captain was mortally wounded while cleaning his rifle and simultaneously piloting his craft at 30 knots. 

A passenger also died when the discharging weapon recoiled causing its butt to strike the passenger's head, ejecting him into the water.  The passenger then died of a heart attack.

</sarcasm>

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 16:37 | 430010 A Nanny Moose
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back of the head.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 17:04 | 430094 -Michelle-
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They're calling it a suicide.  He was despondent over the spill and shot himself.

 

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greenspace/2010/06/gulf-oil-spill-boat-c...

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:35 | 429117 Gully Foyle
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What is everyone crying about? FREE OIL IS RAINING DOWN! Just toss out a bucket and Bobs your uncle.

Some enterprising Creole will be bottling the air for FREE METHANE!

Opportunity is knocking loudly, people.

Best put on the old thinking cap and get while the gettin is good.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:36 | 429364 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Is it ok if I smoke here?

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:36 | 429119 HarryWanger
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From Coast Guard:  Adm. Allen said that they noticed a 'burp' in the line, of either natural gas or hydrocarbons coming up through the line meant to carry heated water down. They elected to remove the cap as a safety measure. Before they decide to replace it they have to check for hydrates; if they are found, they'll have to clean it and possibly reseat the pipe, then recap it.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:52 | 429191 Mitchman
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Why would you give any credibility to anything said by anyone who reports to the commander-in-chief?

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 13:43 | 429391 WaterWings
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Especially when they are threatening citizens on public beaches with arrest per "BP rules".

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:36 | 429121 John McCloy
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 Anyone see that market goose?

With this kind of news I feel like they did that because they are about to throw on some shorts and unload massive stock.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:58 | 429214 Caviar Emptor
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The Central banks are intervening in currencies. To prevent the vultures from circling the corpse. But they can't keep it up forever. Hungry vultures soon return.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 14:54 | 429664 Cathartes Aura
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nom nom nom. . .

 

(sorry, irresistible set up Caviar!)

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:37 | 429125 John McCloy
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  What is that rust color?

Mud mixed with oil? Seems to bright. Sulfur perhaps?

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:49 | 429174 Caviar Emptor
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Either Agent Orange or Magma

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:50 | 429179 Miss Expectations
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Yes sulfur...me thinks they have pierced the roof of hell.

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