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South Korea To Formally Blame North Korea For Torpedo Attack On Thursday
Europe is broken, HFT traders are about to make cameo appearances on "How to catch a predator", Iran and Israel are scrambling to weaponize plutonium, and now South Korea is about to escalate its involvement with North Korea, by formally blaming Pyongyang for the recent torpedo attack. What happens next nobody knows, but something tells us Hillary Clinton will be completely useless (as usual) in resolving whatever conflict develops out of this. As WaPo reports: "South Korea will formally blame North Korea on Thursday for launching a torpedo at one of its warships in March, causing an explosion that killed 46 sailors and heightened tensions in one of the world's most perilous regions, U.S. and East Asian officials said."
More from WaPo:
South Korea reached its conclusion that North Korea was responsible for the attack after investigators from Australia, Britain, Sweden and the United States pieced together portions of the ship at the port of Pyongtaek, 40 miles southwest of Seoul. The Cheonan sank on March 26, following an explosion that rocked the vessel as it sailed in the Yellow Sea off South Korea's west coast.
The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because South Korea has yet to disclose the findings of the investigation, said that subsequent analysis determined that the torpedo was identical to a North Korean torpedo that had previously been obtained by South Korea.
South Korea's conclusion underscores the continuing threat posed by North Korea and the intractable nature of the dispute between the two Koreas. South Korean President Lee Myung-bak must respond forcefully to the attack, analysts said, but not in a way that would risk further violence from North Korea, whose artillery could -- within minutes -- devastate greater Seoul, which has a population of 20.5 million.
Time to diversify Au holdings with some Pb.
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The NK people are starving to death...have to do something to divert the attention of the masses. What better way than saying look they are blaming us!! Head south for plenty of food!
So what do they do? Seoul is too close to the border to initiate further conflict. Half of the city would be in flames within minutes? What is the U.S. role to be in all this? Has N. Korea responded to allegations?
Easy. National holiday in Pusan. Watch out for tar balls, though.
Well, that was completely pussified.
What is it with these dictators like Kim and Castro with serious illnesses hanging on so damn long. Just get a spy in there and shut off the lights before they enter rooms, old people fall down all the time, plus I don't think Cuba or North Korea have Life Alert.
Heh, I think there is a video out there somewhere of Castro falling. Didn't kill him. :(
Funniest comment I've read in a long time.
harder then it sounds. CIA missed taking castro out countless times.
Wars are great distractions. They give the restless population something external to hate and kill rather than focus on the domestic wizards behind the curtains. I call them "Hail Mary Wars" because they come just in time, usually at the last minute, when the current leaders hear the sounds of lynch mobs outside their front doors. Then, with seconds to go and burning torches flying over the walls, there comes an evil doer to score the come from behind win.
WAR trumps TARP, TALF, PPIP, TGLP. Just get it over with already.
Correct. War is a good excuse for corrupted Gvnts to survive. Socialists always used war to distract people from the problems they caused. Greece has also a similar experience because Greek civil war ended just when Korean civil war started.
I agree completely. Merely talking like this is some huge issue "in my opinion" it almost seems like the same shit going on for half a century now keeps us scared. As always, "In my opinion" North and South Korea are the least of our worries. The world is a stage. It's like trying to find the match that will light the conflict out of thousands of dud matches when there is a torch burning right in front of you.
Yep. Our occupational sandbox wars are mainstream media fatigued so the current administration won't get any real mileage out of them - we need a new shiny object.
Wars cause death. Death is never clearer or as painful when another dies so you can live. Those of us who have seen first hand this kind of sacrifice understand. Those who have not speak of war as just an inconvience. See my memories, see my tears, see my friends die so I could live, then talk of war.
May I suggest you direct your comments towards the men and women responsible for the USA waging two wars for the past 8 or more years. The facts are clear. War is used for many things by the powers that be. The people who fight the wars and those caught in the wars are never asked their opinion.
My comment was intended to display the cavalier attitude the powers that be have towards human life. While they make great speeches about how terrible war is, they don't seem to have a problem with starting them when they feel it would further their goals. And many are started through false flag attacks.
I think this is predictable.....it's all about China. In this administration....we will abandon Taiwan; Japan will therefore rescind or modify Article 9 (I think) of the JAP Constitution and begin a major defense buildup; we are leaving Guam etc; China will unleash its' currency; we have abandoned space exploration and all that brings in new tech; the Ruskies watch with wonder.
Change you can believe in!
WW II version 2.0
or WWIII
Join now before you get drafted.
Bugs, I welcome a draft, or even the very mention of it within the halls of Congress.
Armchair quarterbacks and "hawkish neo-cons" all behave more responsibly when they have skin in the game.
MP
China supported wich side again? And America supported what side?
so confusing :)
Looks like a pitbull fight where the owners stand behind the fence :)
I wish China would wake up to the fact that it does them no good to support this crazy little man and his starving population next door. China has the influence there.
If they could helf defuse the N.Korea situation, we could pull back from S.Korea and perhaps some other locations near China. Could be a win/win.
Right. If China wants to increase its influence in the region, get the US the hell out of there.
Also, if the diffused the Korean situation they could gain prestige (among retards -> political class) on the world stage propelling their aspirations.
Just like that time when the Soviet Union collapsed, and we pulled right out of Germany.
They know it ain't gonna happen, so they use the Little Leader and his tantrums as a means toward various political ends (because they are the only ones that can calm him down--or so they would have us believe).
Touche.
China* doesn't want any NK refugees or any NK breakup drama, and it isn't too fussy about how it doesn't get them. Besides, even if the US troops leave a united Korea, as long as the new country is a successor to the US-aligned/now-democratic Republic of Korea (South Korea) then China won't want to be sharing the Yalu (or any other long land border) with it. Finally, while China evidently doesn't approve of Kim's worst troublemaking, it may be quietly happy with the normal level of constant expense and grief that NK gives the US and the ROK. Anything that regularly makes US presidents look impotent can't be all bad, right? So China doesn't want to rip the rug from under Kim, which is not to say that it isn't constantly expanding its influence in the DPRK. It's a reasonable guess that China plans to make some signficant moves as soon as Kim gets his promotion, when a certain amount of drama will be unavoidable anyway.
* Meaning mainly the Chinese leadership, of course.
One way or another, the only way out of this crisis is when we have another World War. Sad, but true. You'd better get a food stock and a small self defence organised. Just in case.
Fuck ... we are being distracted ... something is afoot and it ain't the German ban on short selling, Calpers insolvency, Iranian nuclear weapons or S. Korea blaming N. Korea for sinking a ship.
I think I will stop by the ATM and the grocery store on the way home. We may wake up tomorrow and find a totally different world.
tomorrow might well be the end of the thuesday we all know today as today... as 24h comes closer I feel that the end is near...
guess what? most of america does not even know about the sinking, german naked ban shorts, or anything else besides american idol. gonna take a big bang to wake the masses up.
I don't trust anyone in this administration to competently handle the complex chain of events about to unfold across the planet.
Come on! Look at the vast experience Barack Hussein Obama brings to the office of President of the United States. Look at his grades; he didn't just get into Harvard because he is black. What has this man, formerly known as Barry Soetoro, done to make you not trust him? We elected him because he is the best of the best of the best. Now relax.
Oh thats right. He won the Nobel Peace Prize. Case closed. Everyone go to sleep. We are safe.
That's right, he is a Nobel Peace Prize winner. Those Norwegians don't just give those out for doing nothing, don't you know? Look at Al Gore and his Nobel Prize for Best Actor; he probably spent weeks filming.
I'd like him more if he were actually from Kenya.
Kenya would be perfectly fine; almost anywhere would be better than Harvard. Even Yale is looking good at this point.
Speeking of Tentions....
Ms Drury seemed a little uneasy being so close to Jimbo.
She kept backing away everytime Jimbo moved in.
Entertaining to watch.....
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1497525011&play=1
So many problems out there. I do not see how we get out of the box.
Seems like things are really accelerating. Bad, bad, bad.
If we get a TEOTWAWKI, then my Au and Pb and pitifully small food stocks probably aren't going to cut it. We get that, the USA loses 80% - 90% of our population.
On the other hand, we have a President who is bringing Hope and Change. Feel better already. Not.
In Darwinian think those would be acceptable losses.
If you are really concerned about your food stocks look around town for someplace that sales food grade barrels(our local military surplus store sells them along with the local feed store). Get 4 55g barrels then go to costco/sam's club and get 300lbs each of rice, beans, corn(sam's club is selling 50lbs bags of popcorn for $16 dollars) and wheat. You can get once washed wheat and corn at most feed stores. That should keep you in calories for about 6 months. If you want to make it keep for years look up long term food storage on youtube, there are some vids that show how to package up the bulk stuff in Mylar bags using oxygen absorbers that will keep the stuff from spoiling for many years. It is a very bland diet and you would want to add some fresh protein and fat to it if you eat it long term but at least you won't be hungry.
Fuck that. I've got guns, ammo and toilet paper. A single sheet roll will feed you for a week. Double sheets will feed you for two weeks.
Well....since you seem to be eating your toilet paper, might I enquire as to what caliber you're using to wipe with?
If this weren't so fucking serious I would be laughing my ass off right now. But since you asked, 9 mm and a 20 gauge shotgun. Lots of ammo.
TD, don't forget about the ongoing Eyjafjallajökull eruption and the imminent Katla blow-off.
and december 2012 is getting closer and closer and closer and closer....
I work very close with credit and financing. If things get bad banks will shut down or change lending very quickly and I will know within hours if not minutes.
Yeah...a storm is coming, and even here already. We survive by thinking.
"The boundaries of our country, sir? Why sir, on the north we are bounded by the Aurora Borealis, on the east we are bounded by the rising sun, on the south we are bounded by the procession of the Equinoxes, and on the west by the Day of Judgment."
The American Joe Miller's Jest Book
I think most of this is tongue 'n cheek. At least it is for me. I fully expect to wake up tomorrow and it will be business as usual. This will be forgotten (and adjusted to) in a day.
Don't think for ONE minute that TT and BB didn't see this coming. You don't spring a surprise like this on the Masters of the Universe.
True but the plan for TT and BB is to pretend to be surprised.
I didn't know that "blue blood" gives you immunity from radiation poisoning...
This incident happened nearly 2 months ago, and since that time, all that has happened, is for SK to decide to wait two more days to formally announce that NK did it. Bahh! Next?
I expect there to be stern words. And little else.
Had a funny thought...
If you wanted to set up a false flag incident, does this mean you have to sink one of your own ships now to make it credible?
Not saying that the Norks aren't stupid enough to have actually done it, but just saying...
I have no doubt that Kim Jong-il has plans to make his death an event that South Korea and the World will remember.
oh noez
North Korea calls rare second parliamentary sessionhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10122505.stm
Probably it's for a ritual war-dance, which is quite scary at the moment. If any actual politics breaks out, that will be a lot scarier: "summon the Estates General!"
This is like the Gulf of Tonkin incident times 10 and the hawks have all been silent. This tells me the west perceives itself as too weak to confront NK the way they really want to.
Seol is within NK artillery range. End of story.
Hmmm...
Depends how BIG you want to go.
Nukes could solve that problem technically, but there could be some political problems with that...