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South Korean President Says Will Use "Self-Defense Measures" In Case Of New North Korean Provocation
From South Korea's president Lee Myung-bak: "If our territorial waters, airspace or territory are violated, we will immediately exercise our right of self-defense. Under these circumstances, any inter-Korean trade or other cooperative activity is meaningless. I solemnly urge the North Korean authorities to do the following. Apologize immediately to the Republic of Korea and the international community. Immediately punish those who are responsible for and those who are involved in the incident" Is this the last warning before war? While we await North Korea's response, now that the ball is again in its court, we have to score one for the South Korea's communist neighbors who once again have manage to bully it (and the US) into nothing but more posturing. Game theory is so much more fun when one of the actors is insane.
From Yonhap:
SEOUL, May 24 (Yonhap) -- President Lee Myung-bak said Monday South Korea will immediately use the right of self-defense in case of any additional North Korean provocation, adding Seoul will ditch all inter-Korean exchanges except for the joint industrial park in Kaesong as the first punitive step for the North's March attack on one of the South's warships.
In a public address broadcast live, Lee defined the sinking as "North Korea's military attack" on South Korea and said Seoul will request the U.N. Security Council to take up the case.
"If our territorial waters, airspace or territory are violated, we will immediately exercise our right of self-defense," he said.
Lee also announced his government will suspend all exchange programs with the North except for the Kaesong project and will maintain minimum levels of humanitarian aid for infants and children living in the impoverished communist country.
"Under these circumstances, any inter-Korean trade or other cooperative activity is meaningless," the president said, adding North Korean ships will no longer be allowed to use South Korean waterways that have served as short-cuts.
"I solemnly urge the North Korean authorities to do the following. Apologize immediately to the Republic of Korea and the international community. Immediately punish those who are responsible for and those who are involved in the incident," he added, using South Korea's official name.
The president's speech came after a team of multinational investigators last week concluded that a North Korean submarine torpedoed the 1,200-ton warship, the Cheonan, on March 26 in waters just below the Koreas' western sea border, killing 46 South Korean sailors.
Below is the full speech of president Lee via Wireupdate:
"Fellow Koreans,
I am standing here today, keenly aware that the Korean Peninsula is facing a critical turning point.
My fellow citizens,
The Cheonan was sunk by a surprise North Korean torpedo attack. Again, the perpetrator was North Korea. Their attack came at a time when the people of the Republic of Korea were enjoying their well-earned rest after a hard day’s work. Once again, North Korea violently shattered our peace.
The sinking of the Cheonan constitutes a military provocation against the Republic of Korea by North Korea.
Since the end of the Korean War, the North has perpetrated incessant armed provocations against us, including the bombing attack against the presidential delegation at the Aung San Martyr’s Mausoleum in Myanmar and the bombing in midair of Korean Air Flight 858. The North Koreans, however, have never officially admitted the crimes they committed. This time is no different. They continue to insist that my Government fabricated the sinking of the Cheonan.
I am not surprised by such North Korean behavior and this was the reason why I emphasized, from the very beginning, the importance of conducting a thorough and objective scientific investigation into the incident. I also asked the nation to exercise patience and self-restraint. It was important for us not to come to any hasty conclusion until the results of the investigation came out.
Finally, on May 20th, the international joint investigation group released their conclusive findings, backed by definitive evidences. With the release of the final report, no responsible country in the international community will be able to deny the fact that the Cheonan was sunk by North Korea.
Fellow citizens,
We have always tolerated North Korea’s brutality, time and again. We did so because we have always had a genuine longing for peace on the Korean Peninsula. But now things are different. North Korea will pay a price corresponding to its provocative acts. I will continue to take stern measures to hold the North accountable.
From this moment, no North Korean ship will be allowed to make passage through any of the shipping lanes in the waters under our control, which has been allowed by the Inter-Korean Agreement on Maritime Transportation. The sea routes meant for inter-Korean exchanges and cooperation must never again be used for armed provocations.
Trade and exchanges between the Republic of Korea and North Korea will also be suspended. We still remember the killing of an innocent South Korean tourist by a North Korean armed guard at the Geumgangsan resort. More recently, North Korea unilaterally confiscated South Korean assets at this same resort. Worse yet, the North sank the Cheonan taking the precious lives of our young sailors. Under these circumstances, any inter-Korean trade or other cooperative activity is meaningless.
However, we will continue to provide assistance for infants and children. Matters pertaining to the Gaeseong Industrial Complex will be duly considered, taking its unique characteristics into consideration.
From now on, the Republic of Korea will not tolerate any provocative act by the North and will maintain the principle of proactive deterrence. If our territorial waters, airspace or territory are violated, we will immediately exercise our right of self-defense.
The North’s military provocation against the Cheonan on March 26 violated the Charter of the United Nations and contravened the existing agreements reached for the sake of peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula, including the Korean War Armistice Agreement and the Basic Agreement between South and North Korea.
In close consultations with the nations concerned, the Government will refer this matter to the UN Security Council, so that the international community can join us in holding the North accountable. Many countries around the world have expressed their full support for our position.
I solemnly urge the North Korean authorities to do the following. Apologize immediately to the Republic of Korea and the international community. Immediately punish those who are responsible for and those who were involved in the incident. These are basic measures that the North has to take before anything else. If the North continues to make excuses and wild assertions as it has always done in the past, they will not find any place to stand in the world.
My fellow Koreans and our compatriots in North Korea,
The overriding goal of the Republic of Korea is not military confrontation. Our goal has always been the attainment of real peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula. Our goal is to bring about prosperity for all Koreans. Our vision is to realize the peaceful reunification of the Korean Peninsula.
This year marks the 60th anniversary of the outbreak of the Korean War. The Republic of Korea is no longer what it once was—an impoverished nation, suffering from the scars of war. Rising above the ruins of war, the Republic of Korea has achieved an impressive miracle of progress guided by the constitutional foundations of liberal democracy and a free market economy. The Republic of Korea is continuing its confident march toward the center stage of the world.
All countries across the globe are competing with one another to ensure the prosperity of their own citizens. At the same time, all nations are working together for the sake of co-prosperity and peace in the global community. The entire world is changing. Changes are taking place faster than ever.
But, what is the situation in North Korea? Nothing has changed over the last sixty years. It is a country still holding onto an empty ambition of forcefully reuniting the Korean Peninsula under the banner of communism. It is a country that still believes in making threats and committing terrorist activities. North Korea’s goal is to instigate division and conflict.
For what reason and for whom is it doing what it does?
As compatriots, I am truly ashamed.
It is now time for the North Korean regime to change.
Today, no country can maintain peace and make economic development on its own. It is imperative to conduct exchanges and cooperate with the world and to join the path that everyone else is taking. It is time to look at reality and make that courageous decision. It is time for the North Korean regime to start thinking about what is truly good for the regime itself and its people.
The Korean Peninsula must not be left standing as the danger zone in Northeast Asia. The two Koreas must take the initiative and resolve this problem. The Peninsula must become a new cradle of world peace.
Fellow Koreans,
Permeating this War Memorial of Korea are the spirits of the soldiers of the Republic of Korea and United Nations who shed blood on this land. Also dedicated here was the monument memorializing the 46 fallen warriors of the corvette Cheonan.
Through the Cheonan tragedy, we learned a painful lesson once again. We had been forgetting the reality that the nation faces the most belligerent regime in the world.
We have to admit that our Armed Forces made mistakes as well. On the occasion of this incident, the Government will solidify the national security readiness. The discipline of the Armed Forces will be reestablished, military reform efforts will be expedited and combat capabilities will be reinforced drastically. The ROK-US joint combat readiness will be further strengthened on the basis of strong ROK-US alliance.
Public awareness of the importance of national security will be strengthened as well. We must never waver in the face of threats, provocations and divisive schemes by the North. We must become one when it comes to national security.
Fellow citizens,
Regardless of how rough the storm may be, we will continue to walk steadily on the path toward a prosperous nation, a compassionate society and a strong country.
The great people of the Republic of Korea will build an even greater country.
Fellow Koreans,
Let us all join forces and march forward together.
Thank you very much."
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'New'? so as long as they kill less than 46 sailors all is ok? I guess it begs the question at what point does one get pissed off?
"You know, if they would have killed one more sailor, we would have let them have it. 46 is one thing, but 47, that's a game changer."
If things are getting bad for the rest of the world
Things must be getting unbearable for one of the few remaining expirements in pure socialism -- N Korea
What if the US did not drag China out of its cultural revolution
China would be a larger and more dangerous N. Korea
Does he mean self-defense as in turtle position?
+1,000 !!!!!! only usa fights wars !!! just ask saudi arabia !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WWIII Pregame warm up.
Insane ??? I don't think China is insane. The North Korean puppet will do whatever his masters tell him.
Beijing is trying the U.S. limits. So far, they are right. The U.S. is a rudderless vessel with no captain aboard.
And all the rats have left the ship.
"And all the rats have left the ship."
Ummm....I was in my hole sleeping it off when the "abandon ship" order was given. Since I'm a rat, I don't swim very well. Or float for that matter. Too little body fat is what they tell....er....told me since everyone is gone.
Any suggestions?
PS. Send lawyers, guns and money. And cheese.
+1
Everyone needs to look at a map. North Korea does exactly what China tells them, and this is "probing" (the US).
North Korea doesn't have their morning boiled-grass-and-mud tea without China's approval. China can swallow North Korea in an hour if they were in the mood, and North Korea knows that.
I solemnly urge the North Korean authorities to do the following. Apologize immediately to the Republic of Korea and the international community. Immediately punish those who are responsible for and those who are involved in the incident"
I'm telling Mom!! You killed 46 people. Apowoghize. My feewings are hurt.
South Korea has just opened itself up for more attacks. This is not a warning, this is just political posturing in the face of impotence.
Again, in diplomatic speak, SK has said it will not respond to attacks unless they are real invasions. The rest if political show. This has given NK a very, very bad learning experience on pushing the envelope.
I suspect they asked the US for back-up and they got....uh- please leave a message.....
"Obama, we need blackup!"
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That's some funny shit!
They probably phoned the Windows Help Centre. They are still on hold.
And so, the NKs' take the SKs' advice and provide a comment to the whole event. The next time you play war with an American sub, make sure you are behind it.
+1
An escalation in language, definitely. Change we better believe in.
I'm sure that, given our recent exposure to it, we're all getting very good here at reading between the Diplo-speak lines. Pretty serious choice of words in this statement; gives me considerable pause for the potential consequences on this one.
Look for nk to run war games and practice manuvers along with a few test missles to be fired off..Then will be followed by "whatcha gonna do it we dont say were sorry"
As a nuclear power - as the only nuclear power to have used a nuclear weapon - the United States has a moral responsibility to act.
Barack Obama
Nuke 'em
Unfortunately there's little to nuke in NK.
Perhaps we should take a page from the ChiComs and force down one of China's recon planes to an American air field, then take our sweet time before we release the crew, and send the plane home in pieces?
Why do you think killing people enMass is good ? just for punishment, are you human ? don't you understand that you are going to kill innocent people who has nothing to do with the their crazy leaders decision ? NK people are living in poverty, they never agreed their leaders decision, they didnt elect him either.< go and Nuke yourself
Enough with the questions. How about some answers? I'm all ears.
>>Game theory is so much more fun when one of the actors is insane
+10. The prisoner has a dilemma only if he refuses to split the horns. The correct choice is e) none of the above...but only if picked with insane confidence.
So let's see. NK sinks an SK ship. As punishment, SK decides it will continue the Kaesong project, continue sending food to NK (ostensibly for women children and orphans) ahem. And demanding NK say it's sorry. And they claim Kim is the crazy one?
South Korea has been reduced to this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT96xH8UoeY
I saw The International last night. Kind of formula, kind of fun, but not a great flick. Still, they got one message out that was clear, war is not about the power, nor the money, it's about the debt that can be created.
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what a coincidence, yesterday night i watched the same movie:) it was intersting to see the bankers fucking the world, just like GS today:)
I laughed hard at the ending. Mobsters, all of them. Had fun watching the movie with you, separately. The wine was great. :-)
so they found German explosive parts in the sub explosion ,now pray tell who uses German subs in their arsenal
blame the name of the game ,
the culprits hide in the shadows
Greek rioters in scube gear did it
Pshaw! Next thing you are going to tell me that its the same group that was trying to sell nukes to South Africa in 1975.
It was an accidental hit. They should apologize to Dear Reader for colliding with his peaceful torpedo before he gets angwy.
'i agree with much of what you said
but
as you say , one of the actors is insane
so i wouldnt be too hasty in characterizing us or SK as having been bullied
this isnt speed chess, we have time to look for a best move
kinda like the gulf, looking for the best move. North i say, go north
But it doesn't matter. The SKoreans have 10,000,000 people concentrated in Seoul, about 25 miles from the DMZ. If they do anything to seriously piss off the dwarf in the Members Only jacket (acronym DIMO), they risk massive, apocalyptic losses.
They'll posture and double-talk but nothing will ever happen. And frankly, who can blame them? Imagine if New Jersey was run by the DIMO and you were mayor of NYC. You'd do anything to pacify the little fucker and just hope he doesn't do anything crazy.
When Geithner gets to China this week, with his head bowed and his tail between his legs, the Chinese are going to shove a picture, from their golden eye, of this whole event, up his ass.
Gulf of Tonkin.
I am quite sure we do not know the truth, at all.
We know the truth. NK torpedoed a SK ship. Why did they do it, because they could. SK doesn't want attacked because of the proximity of a large population to the border, and they don't want to attack for the same reason, also they would have to take care of millions of starving peasants. NK will benefit from their aggression, and as long as that is true their aggression will continue.
So what do you think SK should do?
There is no easy answer now, since even a perfect military victory would saddle S.K. with a whole country full of starving peasants for which they must feed and care. That's the optimistic outcome, but we know N. K. has got nukes and we know they'll use them. The U.S. and S.K. will find that kind of loss unacceptable, so we're going to shut up and pay the tribute.
Lusitania
USS Liberty
If there's a fucking war, all those irritating Obama college kids had better be required to soak up the shells on the front lines.
By JEAN H. LEE, Associated Press Writer – 26 mins ago
SEOUL, South Korea – South Korea's president said Monday that the country will no longer tolerate North Korea's "brutality" and said the regime would pay for the surprise torpedo attack that killed 46 sailors.
President Lee Myung-bak said Seoul will take Pyongyang to the U.N. Security Council, suspend inter-Korean exchanges and ban North Korean ships from passing through its waters.
North Korea must be punished for its repeated provocations, Lee said in a solemn address to the nation from the War Memorial as he recounted the "incessant" pattern of attacks by communist North Korea, including the downing of an airliner in 1987 that killed 115 people.
Lee said South Korea was prepared to defend against any future provocations.
"We have always tolerated North Korea's brutality, time and again. We did so because we have always had a genuine longing for peace on the Korean peninsula," Lee said.
"But now things are different. North Korea will pay a price corresponding to its provocative acts," he said. "I will continue to take stern measures to hold the North accountable."
A joint international civilian-military investigation team announced last week that their probe confirmed a North Korean torpedo sank a South Korean warship, the Cheonan, on March 26.
Fifty-eight sailors were rescued from the choppy Yellow Sea waters off the Koreas' maritime border, but 46 perished — the nation's worst military disaster since the 1950-53 Korean War.
North Korea has steadfastly denied responsibility and warned that any move to retaliate or punish Pyongyang would mean war.
The two Koreas remain technically in a state of war because the fighting ended in 1953 in a truce, not apeace treaty.
The U.N. Armistice Commission was investigating whether the sinking of the Cheonan constituted a violation of the 1953 truce.
In Beijing, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton was urging China to work with the United States to coordinate a response to the sinking of warship.
Opening high-level U.S.-China talks in Beijing, Clinton said North Korea must be held to account for the incident.
China, North Korea's main ally and benefactor, has urged restraint and has so far remained neutral on the investigation results.
Oh, goody. Hillary's on the case. That ought to fix everything.
Come on People
The Chicom Fascists got Dear Leader to torpedo the SK ship.
This action increases the need of Obamster to suck up to the Chicoms, and to drop any demands for raising the Renminbi and to stop shipping their lousy crap to the U.S.
Remember that with China's currency pegged to the U.S. dollar, the Chicom's have the worst of all possible worlds happening in Europe- the Renminbi is rising along with the U.S. Dollar, the European economy is shrinking, and Europe, generally, has more balls about keeping European jobs at home.
So the only play the Chicoms have is keeping the U.S. consumer market. As our weak President fiddles, the Chicoms play him like a chump.
The revolution in China will always trump a few dead South Korean sailors.
The sooner Obamster stops sending official appeasers to China, the stronger the U.S. will become.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6460FC20100507
The metallic debris and chemical residue appear to be consistent with a type of torpedo made in Germany, indicating the North may have been trying to disguise its involvement by avoiding arms made by allies China and Russia, Yonhap quoted the official as saying.
North Korea has denied involvement and accused South Korean President Lee Myung-bak's government of trying to use the incident for political gains ahead of local elections in June.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aBwEH0sH7LxY&pos=8
Hatoyama Says Japan Must Keep U.S. Base on OkinawaJapanese Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama decided to honor an agreement to relocate a U.S. military base within Okinawa, saying threats from countries such as North Korea trump local sentiment to shift it elsewhere.
Hatoyama has “no choice” but to relocate the Futenma Marine Air Base on the island, he told Okinawa Governor Hirokazu Nakaima yesterday. Apologizing for abandoning a campaign pledge, he said the decision was made “given security concerns in East Asia such as the situation on the Korean Peninsula.”
Damn it! And links, too. ;)
So...NK is using German torpedos? What am I missing here?
Yeah. It's a German torpedo, according to a crew of investigators. I'm unsure of what kind of experience those guys might have in finding evidence of German torpedo attacks.
How the hell do they know?
The US can't uphold its treaties. GOOD. Bring 'em home. The Koreans can fight this one out alone.
The US has 28,500 troops in South Korea. They have done nothing when N korea launched missiles and now this.
This weekend the US forced the Japanese to accept at least another 10 years of having the Marines on Okinawa despite tens of thousands of Okinawans protesting and urging PM Hatoyama to kick out the US.
The reasons given for keeping the base on Okinawa was North Korea.
What the fuck?
hint: there is no north korea
Before we get ourselves into another war, perhaps our trusted officials should look into it a little deeper.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6460FC20100507
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/LE05Dg01.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin_class_submarine
Oh, of course. Why didn't I see it before? The Evil Zionist Entity behind everything.
Gimme a fucking break.
Turd, you deserve your exact ordered break today, so Sally will be along presently to help out. If you'll just grab your ankles and hang loose. Sally isn't a Zionist, but he does like to get behind everything. Especially with a strap-on.
/extreme word-play humor off/
Very interesting, the second link is a south Korean source and claims it happened as a friendly fire accident and by US fire, very possible, i was always thinking how the Nk sub came and fired and escaped undetected, it was fishy.
Me thinks another alternative, may be done deliberately but shown as an accident , just to convince the japs to keep the US okinawa base few more years. Its worked that way though.
Will GS benefit from this potential war?
I doubt anything will come of this.
Despite repeated NK provocations in the past (remember the U.S. Army officer hacked to death in the DMZ by an NK patrol?) the evidence is not strong enough to conclusively nab the NKs.
Besides, with thousands of long-range NK artillery tubes and missile launchers within easy range of Seoul which could dump over 50,000 rounds per hour of high-explosive in the heart of one of the world's great population centers, there is simply too much downside for the SKs to push the issue. And, if there was war--the SKs don't want to win anyway and have to deal with a few million impoverished and indoctrinated NK refugees--think German reunification on steroids.
I am sure that the SK's will make a convincing case in front of the Security Council and that a pointed communique will be issued as a result.
(More convincing would be the mysterious disappearance of NK submarines and patrol craft over the next couple of years. Think that might be arranged?)
Well-said.
I was thinking along those lines too. Do some real sneaky-pete stuff like you mention, and if either SK or USA has some assets in NK, then the next year or two might be a good time to have some quiet & nasty things happen to the Dear Leader and his homies.
They might shell Seoul for a little bit. How many hours does it take for a B52 to fly to NK from Guam? Those little 500 lbs fall so close together you could plant corn in the craters.
So the Koreans are turning the other cheek and doing a thorough investigation before making a counter attack. How much trouble would the US have avoided if we did that in Vietnam, WWI, WWII, and after Fort Sumpter?
If Bush was in charge of SK...NK would no longer exist.
bob_dabolina
He did give China a walk over forcing down our spy plane.
I would say all evidence presented by SK govt are fake.
It's clearly an inside job self-directed by US+SK.
Anyone thinks otherwise are brainwashed by our govt successfully.
AT this point the only thing I am interested to see is what China says and does.
I suppose it is possible that NK could wig out and start a shooting war, but at this point it looks like everyone is waiting (and lobbying) to see what cue the Chinese give.
And frankly, fair enough. This could turn into a nuke exchange right on their border, they are going to take this pretty seriously.
To date their response has been - do nothing rash, take a deep breath and investigate calmly and openly...
Probably they are hoping that if they can drag out the process, it will blow over.
Hey Kim J,
Got rice, bitchez!?
"Game theory is so much more fun when one of the actors is insane."
The real question, which side is insane? Given the NK constant need to have a foreign treat, wouldn't the rational side expect the hostility and would prepare its forces better? Not to mention a month long hesitation of making a decision on how to respond, etc.
You've got to be pretty damned sure as to who launched an agressive act of war against you, before you unconditionally demand an apology. What if it had been Fiji?
And what if it was an accident, your own sumbarine (designed in the Germany & using their torpedos.) accidently openning fire on the wrong target. How do you save the face then, hm.
Now, if he is so "f crazy", how come he is able to cling to the power despite the femine, cut throught intra party competition and other factors?
The "crazy dude" is the best chess player of 'em all at this moment.
Clearly a WWII German U-Boat went into the Bermuda Triangle on its way to America, passed through a temporal vortex, thrusting it into the Korean Sea (Sea of Japan) in 2010, where it unloaded its deadly payload on a Korean ship. So claims the psychotic Kim Jong-Il, who also regularly shoots 9-12 holes in one while golfing.
We need to bomb NK getting "KJI" to show China we aren't going to take their shit...but we won't act and they know it.
I have been to South Korea at least four times a year for the last 10 years. They could have lost 500 sailors and still not have responded. South Koreans wants no part of war or bloodshed! They are a fat, happy, scotch drinking, sex trade paying society.
They have too much to lose and like France would never fire back, instead offer drink and whores to those that invade them!
There is 0% likelihood that North Korea and South Korea will get into a war.
North Korea's army is big but hugely underfunded and out-of-date. They don't have the supplies necessary to launch a massive war. Their generals realize this, and they do not want to lose their cushy positions as top of the totem pole just because their idiotic and crazy leader wants to engage in war. They would rather posture and sabre rattle and look menacing, rather than engage in a real war and get their asses kicked.
As well, South Korea does not want to win a war against the North Koreans. There is no way their economy can absorb that vast amount of undereducated, undernourished, brainwashed North Koreans who would flood Seoul and the rest of the South once the fences came down. They want slow integration, they don't want what happened to West Germany once they reunified with East Germany.
Neither side wants a war. The North Koreans will likely execute whoever gave the order to torpedo that South Korean ship. They won't admit to it, but they'll probably send some form of message that the person was a rogue, and they were dealt with.
Cmon J. Kim Jong Il's bodyguards along would need only walk across the DMZ to conquer SoKo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlRVTUVIaiQ
Now that the UN is asking for a look at the evidence for the sinking, the US is admitting the torpedo debris from the sinking comes from a GERMAN torpedo, but we are supposed to somehow assume that a German torpedo still points the finger of blame at North Korea.
Pop Quiz, students; what nation gets their submarines (for free) from Germany and has a long history of using false flag dirty tricks to trick other nations into wars?
Hint: Think "USS Liberty", "Lavon Affair", and the Bombing of Libya!
HISTORICAL NOTES ON HOW TO START WARS WITH SINKING SHIPS.
How many US sailors died in the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which was justification enough for the Vietnam war?
Anyway, the funniest phrase that I have read in the internet in a while: "Game theory is so much more fun when one of the actors is insane."
LMAO
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Kim Jong Il: It will be 911 times 2356.
Chris: My God, that's... I don't even know what that is!
Kim Jong Il: Nobody does!
Where is Team America when you need 'em.
HISTORICAL NOTES ON HOW TO START WARS WITH SINKING SHIPS.
President McKinley told the American people that the USS Maine had been sunk in Havana Harbor by a Spanish mine. The American people, outraged by this apparent unprovoked attack, supported the Spanish American War. The Captain of the USS Maine had insisted the ship was sunk by a coal bin explosion, investigations after the war proved that such had indeed been the case. There had been no mine.
FDR claimed Pearl Harbor was a surprise
attack. It wasn't.
The United States saw war with Japan as the means to get into war with Germany, which Americans opposed. So Roosevelt needed Japan to appear to strike first. Following an 8-step plan devised by the Office of Naval Intelligence, Roosevelt intentionally provoked Japan into the attack. Contrary to the official story, the fleet did not maintain radio silence, but sent messages intercepted and decoded by US intercept stations. Tricked by the lie
of a surprise attack, Americans marched off to war.
President Johnson lied about the
Gulf of Tonkin to send Americans off to fight in Vietnam.
There were no torpedoes in the water in the Gulf. LBJ took advantage of an inexperienced sonar man's report to goad Congress into escalating the Vietnam War.
Israel has a long history of sinking other peoples' boats and then denying it happened.
WE HAVE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE.
DO NOT GET SUCKERED!
THE US GOVERNMENT IS DESPERATE FOR A WAR TO DISTRACT FROM THE CRASHING ECONOMY, THE ALREADY-LOST WARS IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ, THE GULF OIL DISASTER AND THE CORRUPTION OF WALL STREET.
DEAR LIBERACE RESPONDS:
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Attack us again and we shall taunt you a second time!
kinda takes the market off the front page..
Kim was paid to do this, by
a. china
b.wait for it yep USA.
too much interest in things better left alone
(market manipulation - robbing the treasury and EU melt down)
distraction plain and simple..how far will they take it? actual conflict?
depends on how many Americans wake up to the plunder of our wealth.
Talk is a waste of time. Talk is cheap. That is all your leaders have been doing for years. The United Nations is a waste of time and will do nothing. The United States will do nothing. As for a proportionate response -- the only correct response is a disproportionate response.