• Leo Kolivakis
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    In the first quarter, the US economy grew by 3.7%, revised up from an originally reported 2.7% increase. But growth estimates all the way back to the start of 2007 were revised lower. Moreover, the level of real GDP in Q1 was revised down by $100 billion. Does this mean the secular bull market in bonds will continue? And are Treasuries the "last diversifier left"?
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    07/30/2010 - 13:51
    The Japanese economy operates on the assumption, soon to be proved false, that the government will always be able to borrow at low interest rates. As internal demand evaporates, the government will have to start hawking its debt outside Japan — in a more realistic world, where interest rates are a lot higher.
  • Phoenix Capital Research
    07/30/2010 - 09:55
    Dear Mr. President, You don’t know me, but I was one of the millions of Americans who voted for you in the last election. I have since been fairly critical of your Presidency largely because I, like many others, feel betrayed by the policies you have enacted upon winning said election.

The Sovereign CDS-To-Leverage Correlation

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As more and more of the broad public figures out what this thing called sovereign CDS is, the next logical question (especially for algos and correlation desks) is whether or not sovereign leveraged levels can be gamed, or is there any specific correlation that can be arbed as the dominos start to fall (not everyone has the luxury of printing limitless amount of the world's reserve currency). Below we present a chart correlating the CDS with the Debt to GDP ratios of various indicative countries. The chart excludes the outliers of Argentina, Venezuela and the Ukraine, which even though having less than 100% Debt-to-GDP are all trading 1000 bps and wider.

Is there a correlation here? You decide. The R2 is 0.5143, which probably means that algos will gradually start to flatline the correlation as more and more sovereign CDS-trading players emerge.

 

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by trav777
on Mon, 12/14/2009 - 10:22
#163180

another gambling vehicle...angels on pinheads next CDS trading underlier

by Anonymous
on Mon, 12/14/2009 - 11:33
#163259

You should use NET EXTERNAL debt-to-gdp. Unfortunately, that number is not readily available. BTW, on that basis, Japan is fine.

by Anonymous
on Mon, 12/14/2009 - 11:35
#163260

Could you list what countries are on tihs?

by Anonymous
on Mon, 12/14/2009 - 11:38
#163266

Not a compelling fit. Remove the two outliers (top right), and a linear regression would slope DOWN (southeast).

by jd2iv987
on Mon, 12/14/2009 - 13:00
#163377

yeah maybe if you are looking in a mirror? was that serious?

 

 

by Anonymous
on Tue, 12/15/2009 - 00:27
#164212

True, it isn't a good fit. False, a linear regression of this data would have a positive slope, but the correlation coefficient would be no better than 0.5. My calibrated eyeball tells me a log curve would be the best fit, and the correlation coeff. would still be unconvincing.

by kennard
on Mon, 12/14/2009 - 11:58
#163292

You should use NET EXTERNAL debt-to-gdp. That number is not widely available, so it may represent an arbitrage opportunity. For example, Japan looks good by that standard,

by Chopshop
on Mon, 12/14/2009 - 12:19
#163308

great note TD ... if it can be arbed its gonna be.  but that does not mean that it will be done well.  and is the strategy even the 'right' one for the issue?

seems to be yet another idea to throw money at which isn't really a great one; but hey, why not, it ain't my/ your money, so ... "jim, whaddya say we ..." 

someone's gonna do it.  just find it so funny how so much actual capital and time duration / commitment / risk is actually arbed instead of just placing a directionally leveraged bet ... call it what it is when you have tenuous relationships, which are much more coincidental and lagging than anything else and anything at all but predictively accurate or actionably timely.

half-assed tongue-in-cheek: does anyone still place predictive bets or is it all just an umpteen stage attempt to synthetically hedge which, um, could work.

by Joe Sixpack
on Mon, 12/14/2009 - 14:04
#163465

I see two clumps of data (around 100 bps and 250 bps), and two oultiers (around 525 bps). Given that you already dropped two outliers, I wouldn't even bet FRNs on it.

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