• Reggie Middleton
    03/16/2010 - 06:48
    I have warned my readers about following myths and legends versus reality and facts several times in the past, particularly as it applies to Goldman Sachs and what I have coined "Name Brand Investing". Very recent developments from Senator Kaufman of Delaware will be putting the spit-shined patina of Wall Street's most powerful bank to the test, as it appears he ain't playin'. Here's the speech from the esteemed Senator from Delaware (yes, the most corporate friendly state in this country), complete with an analysis that you will NEVER see in the mainstream media!!!
  • madhedgefundtrader
    03/15/2010 - 23:09
    A second deflationary tidal wave may hit the US early as April. The Dow is going to crash, possibly heading for a double bottom at 6,000, and bonds are going up for the rest of the year. Gold has had it for the foreseeable future. First, deflation, then inflation. The greatest trade of your lifetime is setting up. This trend could start tomorrow, or in two years. Blow your entry point, and you’ll get wiped out. Oh, and by the way, crude oil futures are discounting war with Iran by 2013!
  • Leo Kolivakis
    03/15/2010 - 20:10
    “The private equity industry always pitches how constructive it is as an investor force to create jobs and growth,” says Mr. des Pallières. “But there are private equity funds that get rich by breaking companies and making others poor — whether they are creditors, states or employees.”

S&P Revises Outlooks on Citigroup, Bank Of America To Negative From Stable

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Citigroup downgrade highlights:

  • We believe there is increased uncertainty about the U.S. government's willingness to provide additional extraordinary support to highly systemically important financial institutions in a way that will benefit debt holders.
  • We are revising our outlook on Citigroup to negative from stable and affirming the ratings.
  • We are also raising our hybrid capital issue ratings (excluding preferred stock ratings) on Citigroup.
  • We believe Citigroup's stand-alone position has improved.

Rating Action

On Feb. 9, 2010, Standard & Poor's Ratings Services revised its outlook on Citigroup Inc. (Citi) to negative from stable. At the same time, we affirmed our counterparty credit and debt ratings on Citi (A/A-1; holding company). In light of what we view as improved stand-alone characteristics, we raised the ratings on its hybrid capital issues to 'BB-' from 'B+' (excluding its preferred stock, which we affirmed at 'C').

Rationale

The outlook revision reflects our increased uncertainty about the U.S. government's willingness to provide additional extraordinary support to highly systemically important financial institutions in a way that will benefit debt holders. We previously stated our belief that the extraordinary support was temporary. We believe markets are beginning to stabilize and the U.S. government is seeking ways to reduce the potential for moral hazard and systemic risk associated with large financial institutions.

One such effort to reduce these risks is evident in the House bill (H.R. 4173) passed in mid-December that would specifically preclude the government from making company-specific bailouts, and would allow it to use public funds to assist in winding down an ailing financial institution only if that entity's debt holders incurred losses (see "Potential Legislation Could Constrain Government Support to Financial Institutions And Affect Ratings On Financial Institutions," published Dec. 16, 2009, on RatingsDirect). The subsequently proposed Financial Crisis Responsibility Fee, which would impose a significant cost burden on the largest banks, further underscores the extent to which the political climate may affect bond holders of these companies adversely. If such legislation were enacted in the form that has been proposed, it could cause us to revise the analytical basis we currently use for imputing extraordinary government support in our ratings on Citi and other highly systemically important financial institutions.

Outlook

The outlook is negative.
Our rating on Citi continues to be enhanced, currently by three notches, to reflect the potential for additional extraordinary government support, should this be necessary. Ultimately, the counterparty credit rating and stand-alone creditworthiness may converge at the current stand-alone profile level (if it became necessary to remove enhancement for government support as a rating factor and we saw no apparent additional improvement in Citi's stand-alone credit profile); converge at the level of the current issuer credit rating (if there were very substantial improvement in Citi's stand-alone credit profile); or end up somewhere in between (with a combination of weaker government support and some improvement in the stand-alone credit profile).

We are uncertain whether Citi will be able to show sufficient additional improvement in its operating performance and profitability over the next two years to benefit its stand-alone credit profile and narrow the current gap between the counterparty credit rating--which incorporates our assessment of potential extraordinary government support--and its stand-alone creditworthiness.

Standard & Poor's Ratings Services will hold a telephone conference call on Feb. 9, 2010, at 11:00 a.m. Eastern Time that will include a discussion of this rating action. The live dial-in numbers for this call are: for the U.S., Canada, and all others, 1-210-795-1098; for the U.K., 44-20-7108-6248. The conference ID is 1837776, and the passcode is SANDP.

And Bank Of America action highlights, essentially a recap of the Citi "analysis":

  • We believe there is increased uncertainty about the U.S. government's willingness to provide additional extraordinary support to highly systemically important financial institutions in a way that will benefit debt holders.
  • We are revising our outlook on BofA to negative from stable and affirming the ratings.

Rating Action

On Feb. 9, 2010, Standard & Poor's Ratings Services revised its outlook on Bank of America Corp. (BofA) to negative from stable. At the same time we affirmed all ratings, including its 'A/A-1' counterparty credit rating and our ratings on all related entities (see list below).

Rationale

The outlook revision reflects our increased uncertainty about the U.S. government's willingness to provide additional extraordinary support to highly systemically important financial institutions in a way that benefits debt holders. We previously stated our belief that the extraordinary support was temporary. We believe markets are beginning to stabilize and the U.S. government is seeking ways to reduce the potential for moral hazard and systemic risk associated with large financial institutions.

One such effort to reduce these risks is evident in the House bill (H.R. 4173) passed in mid-December that would specifically preclude the government from company-specific bailouts, and would allow it to use public funds to assist in winding down an ailing financial institution, but only if that entity's debt holders incurred losses (see "Potential Legislation Could Constrain Government Support To Financial Institutions And Affect Ratings On Financial Institutions," published Dec. 16, 2009, on RatingsDirect). The subsequently proposed Financial Crisis Responsibility Fee, which would impose a significant cost burden on the largest banks, further underscores the extent to which the political climate affects bondholders of these companies adversely. If such legislation were enacted in the form that has been proposed, it could cause us to revise the analytical basis we currently use for imputing extraordinary government support in our ratings on BofA and other highly systemically important financial institutions.

Outlook

The outlook is negative. Our rating on BofA is enhanced, currently by three notches, to reflect the potential for additional extraordinary government support, should this be necessary. Ultimately, the counterparty credit rating and stand-alone creditworthiness may: converge at the current stand-alone credit profile level (if it became necessary to remove enhancement for government support as a rating factor and we saw no apparent additional improvement in BofA's stand-alone credit profile); converge at the level of the current issuer credit rating (if there were very substantial improvement in BofA's stand-alone credit profile); or wind up somewhere in between (with a combination of weaker government support and some improvement in the stand-alone credit profile).

We are uncertain whether BofA will be able to show sufficient additional improvement over the next two years in its operating performance and profitability to benefit its stand-alone credit profile and narrow the current gap between the counterparty credit rating--which incorporates our assessment of potential extraordinary government support--and its stand-alone creditworthiness.

Standard & Poor's will hold a telephone conference call on Feb. 9, 2010, at 11:00 a.m. Eastern Time that will include a discussion of this rating action. The live dial-in numbers for this call are: for the U.S., Canada, and all others, 1-210-795-1098; for the U.K., 44-20-7108-6248. The conference ID is 1837776, and the passcode is SANDP

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by Number 156
on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 10:31
#223230

In other words, S&P has determined that the BofA and Citigroup have been officially deemed by the US government as TBTF.

Of course thats a load of crap because:

1). S&P has more marionette strings attached than Pinocchio.

2). There is nothing TBTF, the math says so, and the US economy will make that plainly clear as local and state governments begin defaulting one after another.

by Anonymous
on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 10:41
#223245

FASB or FAZ?

by Racer
on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 10:42
#223248

And the share price goes up of course!

by Rainman
on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 10:47
#223252

Yup.......PPT got into work today on dogsleds. The magic number is 10. All else be damned.

by Anonymous
on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 11:04
#223287

The market is weakening, you stupid bulls. The reflation trade is dead, even with the criminal Federal Reserve propping the market. They can pump Wells all they want. In the end there will still be no equity. That fucker's finished.

by John McCloy
on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 11:14
#223308

I think BAC finally hits below 13.00 today. And I think CHAOS ensues. All those trying to make it a year for that sweet 15% cap gains tax are going to have a VERY interesting call to make.

by Anonymous
on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 11:47
#223374

BAC will not hit even below 14 today

by girl money
on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 11:55
#223390

market being propped by the mystery buyer at 11:30, check out big sticks on the SPY.  time for a little song:

Ted Nugent - Free For All

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c2OM7HEfrs

by Assetman
on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 12:04
#223411

I wonder what makes S&P so confident that they can base a downgrade on the prospect that our leaders in Washington DC won't provide another stick save?

What do they know that we don't?

by Anonymous
on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 12:25
#223466

Citi can't help themselves. They manage to get embroiled in EVERY single financial scandal and disaster that has come down the road in the last 30 years. First they were run by a lawyer who was more concerned about recognizing the contributions of transexual employees than whether the company had loaded the boat on "AAA" CDO floaters at all-time tight spreads. Now, they have an ex-college professor whose claim-to-fame is that he picked Citi off to the tune of $800 million on his Old Lane hedge fund (i.e., smoke and mirrors) that was eventually written down to zero.

by Mark Beck
on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 17:39
#224143

My top three picks, for Q1 reporting exposure made in Oct 2009, for the financial sector:

#1 Citi

#2 BAC

#3 JPM

My largest unsecured loan risk was Wells. However, tracking Wells has become a circus. It looked like the accounting strategies may be in place for Q1, but I really can't tell anymore.

So we wait. What will be the magic formula used in releasing the financials? Should be an interesting Shake-N-Bake accounting experience.

Looking ahead though, the real question is how the TBTFs will be treated when facing insolvency. What will happen? Politically, the use of TARP, or a TARP like remedy is not a wise option.

Mark Beck

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