As Speculative Bullish Bets Surge, Is Rice The Next Silver (And Manipulated In Kind?)

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Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:25 | 975986 putbuyer
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Another Friday treat.
Chick who lives in a cabin in the NC Mountains. Got a donkey and chickens, and looking to go solar. As America collapses, we can learn a lot about her trials and tribulations. It has not been easy for her. Once in a while she dances.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:00 | 976085 sabra1
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is the donkeys' name Kong?

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:17 | 976134 putbuyer
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LOL. No Juju. She is a bit nutty, but I have land in NH and will be building a cabin this Spring so I try to see what others have done. Got to have an escape if SHTF. I follow lots of survival sites. No 1. guest post here often

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 23:11 | 976568 dark pools of soros
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make sure there is no shale under your well...  a frackin they will go

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:17 | 976136 Don Smith
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OMG, isn't that from Napoleon Dynamite? 

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 13:20 | 977463 EscapeKey
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Throughout that piano playing session, I kept expecting a more sinister background music to emerge and eventually overpower the piano, and the narrator interrupting with "next week on Lost"...

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:26 | 975988 Hugh G Rection
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Time to go long plastic

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:51 | 976046 The Limerick King
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It's time to go long plastic rice

The profits are looking quite nice

It's fresh and it's new

Tastes great in a stew

And also grows tumors in mice

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:38 | 976186 akak
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After their melamine pet food fiasco, maybe the Chinese can adopt a new marketing slogan:

"Rice: The Other White Plastic"

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 21:08 | 976279 VegasBD
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Fri, 02/18/2011 - 21:10 | 976281 VegasBD
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Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:57 | 976250 Armchair Bear
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Hilarious - thanks!

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 04:08 | 977022 phil silver
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Fully agree Limerick King.

Any ideas on the expiration date?

It tastes OK, but I suggest that you go heavy on the MSG.

Don't like the Rice Wine much.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:17 | 976133 slewie the pi-rat
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lyme rickey: rice is nice, that's what they say.

sumbuddy call KINKY and see what (s)he tinxaboot my insane idee about putting the FOOD com-odditees on cash!

well, how about 90% cash?

EAT ME!!!!!!

kinky?YouTube - Kinky Friedman, They Ain't Making Jews Like Jesus Anymore

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 21:01 | 976154 slewie the pi-rat
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oh, yeah, i can hear U hot shot richierich's: but slewie~~~it's so much fun baptiZe tender-skinned children in the blood of the bapTiZmal/DiZmal font of our friends @ the crimex, the nymex, and, of course the "market" where, if we only BTFD, we can never lose, b/c of QE to infinity.

shhh. don't tell anybody:  you ARE the fuking DIPS................%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%@@@@@@@@@@@@@^^^^^^^^^<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<shitheadZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sat, 02/19/2011 - 14:02 | 977532 akak
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You know, they do make decaffeinated coffee.

Might want to try it sometime.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 16:25 | 977821 slewie the pi-rat
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it makes me ill.  so do you, asswipe.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 16:35 | 977840 akak
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Sticks and stones will break my bones

but you're still a tweaked-out jerk.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:29 | 975992 NOTW777
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cool - time to add rice


chinese good at copying?

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:29 | 975995 e_u_r_o
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wtf, its like ppl want rice to rise? how is cheap rice anything but good for ppl

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:03 | 976091 sabra1
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will, will, the price of rice krispies go up?

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:58 | 976253 Armchair Bear
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sushi, sake, rice krispies, everything!

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:31 | 976000 Caviar Emptor
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Rice is to the emerging world as oil is to the developed world. Game over if there's another 'rice shock'

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:31 | 976001 NOTW777
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hey - you guys good with paying 350+ for gas

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:31 | 976006 dryam
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How does a small investor invest in rice?

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:37 | 976022 Twindrives
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Order it with your egg rolls.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:41 | 976033 Flakmeister
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 Or talk to the other Uncle Ben

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:42 | 976029 NOTW777
Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:56 | 976069 topcallingtroll
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thanks dude!  I kinda wonder if we are too late for this party.  However agriculture may be in a secular uptrend.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:22 | 976148 NOTW777
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also look at DBA.  however its had quite a run.  i bot @ 29 and recently took profits @ 34.5ish; hoping for a pull back to reload.

DBA top holdings recently: cocoa, sugar, coffee, live cattle, soybeans corn and wheat.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:42 | 976030 jesse livermoore
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buy some bags and then sell them on ebay India......

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:45 | 976041 DaBernank
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Tough w/o buying futures contracts or options. The RJA ETF contains a small weighting in rice.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:26 | 976155 NOTW777
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its also diversified so there is less risk; e.g. wheat pulled back good today -28

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:49 | 976220 BigJim
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Spreadbetting is one way to directly place bets on rice prices. Tax-free gains, too (at least in the UK).

Although my provider (CMC Markets) has just yanked rice, for some reason.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 01:12 | 976850 Non Passaran
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A bowl (or a grain?) a time!

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:34 | 976014 SilerLibertyLondon
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use some certificate from rbs

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:41 | 976032 spinone
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ZH is a ringside seat to armageddon.

I hope that someone is making an archive of ZH.  It will be a record for whatever posterity is left.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:58 | 976076 topcallingtroll
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I wish they would open a bar with a bloomberg terminal on big screen.  This is definitely the best seat in the house.  Now if they could just add some liquor and some bar snacks.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:20 | 976142 Don Smith
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They could call it Bar Chart...

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 22:05 | 976414 duo
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The Admirals Club in LGA has 4

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 21:25 | 976161 slewie the pi-rat
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spinone:  meg-a-tron dogg:  i hope so, 2!

got friends? let's get viral & send these 'cUnT-puppies' where they BElong!!! 

ACTION, jackson!

lol...these moronZ have absolutely no freaking idea how many "blind" melons are waiting in the wings, armed to the teeth, waiting to have THEM 4 lunch.  and, slewie is gettin a little weary holding back the flood that is to come. for them!  get w/ the program, NOW, or enjoy the HELL outa your last freaking lunch.  capiche?

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Sat, 02/19/2011 - 13:24 | 977470 EscapeKey
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I spent a crazy amount on books last year, so I have plenty of reading material when the shtf.

"Tragedy & Hope", "The Collapse of Complex Societies", and "The Mystery of Banking" were the standouts of last years reading material.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:43 | 976035 bob_dabolina
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I think Bernanke is keeping the presses turned on like this in large part to pressure the Chinese to revalue the renminbi.

It think that may be part of it.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:57 | 976078 Shameful
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Why? Think it through.  What happens if China revalues RMB? 

Well first off their ability to buy commodities rises, and their exports get more expensive, and they have less incentive to hold dollars.  Granted their economy will shudder and shake, forcing them to unleash public spending (IE rice and veggies) to keep people happy, where will that money come from?  Treasury sales?  Now unless Americans can find a cheaper place for their imported goods it's still China, meaning the cost of Walmart goodies rises.  Now China will be able to buy more commodities for the RMB, that means less for Americans at current "low" prices.  Finally if they have no incentive to hold dollars to maintain the peg they will dump dollars, which will further weaken the dollar.

If China jumps off the peg then Ben is forced to print into an oncoming tsunami of dollars headed back to the US.  The US consumer will get caught between the hammer of returning dollars and anvil of Zimbabwe Ben's printing press.  Oh and for the after shock of the worldwide panic selling of the dollar after China gets out of dodge.

In all reality I expect there has been a lot of jawboning behind the scenes to keep China from dumping for this very reason.  Also by publicly calling for it we would make them lose face if they did it.  China would get hurt in a revaluation but the US consumer would be ripped into bloody pieces.  If prices radically rise, like I would expect we would finally get to see if Americans are really as spineless and brain dead as it seems.  If the rocketing of prices in a depression doesn't jolt them awake nothing will. 

Granted it would be easier for Americans to export goods, as our wages and standard of living would be radically reduced.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:05 | 976096 topcallingtroll
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On balance I believe we are in better shape to survive yuan revaluation than they are.  They may be the biggest malinvestment bubble and bank corruption scandal in history, but you have the best seat in the house to watch it unfold whatever happens,  Zerohedge. 

We had an artifically high standard of living for a couple of decades now due to the debt binge.  Our standard of living will go down no matter what, on average.  Hopefully we get our imports and exports in better balance and get a few more americans employed as a small benefit.   If Asia can continue to grow really fast it may help bring their wages up so ours don't have to go down so far.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:18 | 976139 Shameful
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Bull!  Ok lets talk a little psychology.  1st the Chinese remember brutal poverty.  Most of them are still there or 1 gen out.  So a wave of poverty hits and they know how to deal. If the CCP is smart they can dance around it buy either a fight or cashing out and buying time with free rice with the assets they have.  Oh and they will nationalize all western companies, that should help with capital.

But what happens when people are spoiled and are forced down many rungs at one.  Now take that same society and spit it along racial, cultural, religious lines, now give them guns...does that sound stable to you?

People will lose their minds when they lose something.  Lose is seen as way worse then the absence of gain.  So you hit Americans with massive loss and a radical change of living standard that they have not seen in at least 80 years in a 3 month period.  With a rotten infrastructure, Byzantine regulations, and a group of fat cat parasites never before seen in the history of the world.  Yeah America will do great, we'll all come together and sing songs around a bowl of thin gruel.  Walk from miles around to gather to share a gallon of $20 milk.

China will get hurt, bad.  Might even toss out the CCP unless the CCP plays it smart.  America will go into a tailspin that will result in civil war or USSR.  Look around you.  Look at the Black Friday events, what will these people do when they can no longer afford to drive, or feed their children or heat their homes.

"When the chips are down, these 'civilized' people will eat each other"

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:32 | 976167 bob_dabolina
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China is so fucked up. I'm pretty sure they worse then us. And the Chinese people often revolt against their country if you look at history at all. The following are just the last 100-200 years.

-The Boxer Rebellion

-Taiping Rebellion

-Opium Wars

-Nien Rebelliopn

-Miao Uprising

etc, etc, etc

They are already feeding their citizens plastic rice and at somepoint the citizens there will revolt just like they are all over the world.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:46 | 976215 Shameful
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Will you look up from your bowl of gruel and think "Well at least someone else is worse off then me, so I guess this is ok"?

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:55 | 976229 bob_dabolina
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I think the entire world in large part is going to have a drastically reduced standard of living (China AND the US included) People often go on these tangents about how great China and it's just bullshit.

So if your question is if I would rather be the best of the worst then I would have to reply yes. I obviously would prefer to be the best of the best but if had the option of gruel vs. plastic rice then I would rather be the guy eating the gruel.

Fri, 02/18/2011 - 20:56 | 976241 percolator
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Bob, I respectfully disagree that China is worse off than USA.  USA is a debtor nation - China a creditor nation. And at least they've got the balls to rebel, whereas Americans are too damn lazy to get off the couch from watching American Idol.

I think it's good to have a rebellion now and then.  Keeps the politicians on their toes.

BTW, I'm an American.

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