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Wed, 07/15/2009 - 14:50 | 7369 Consistently_In...
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Seriously... who is buying right now...?

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 14:53 | 7373 zeropointfield (not verified)
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Easy. Just press <help> for explanation.

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 16:49 | 7462 Charles Wilson
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No, you misunderstand.

The machine is asking in its own clever Unix way, "Help! Need explanation!

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 14:56 | 7374 Hondo
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I agree, it's a fools game know...........looking for suckers on the taxpayer's money.


While congress is in the investigating mode, lets investigate today's trading.......volume, manipulation, etc.


Wed, 07/15/2009 - 15:06 | 7383 Undertaker (not verified)
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Chris Rea - The Road To Hell Full Version

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 15:07 | 7384 EE
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With VIX increasing and S&P.. may be a good day to sell some calls?

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 15:12 | 7390 Anonymous
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The people can not trust the Congress. If it weren't for the crooks in the Congress, we would not be witnessing the raping of USA.

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 15:14 | 7391 Anonymous
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No point at all. Pardon me while I go get a new job. Oh, damn, there aren't any.

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 15:17 | 7394 Undertaker (not verified)
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While congress is in the investigating mode, lets investigate today's trading.......volume, manipulation, etc.


That ain't gonna be nothing but a dog and pony show, these same whores are why we're here now.

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 15:28 | 7403 Gabriel Gray
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Could you break down those vix/spx rises to options x week. I wonder what the %'s would be then.

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 16:05 | 7427 Anonymous
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The VIX, as with any market tool, is being manipulated to sucker in more shorts. See LIBOR, GSCI, any gov't statistics....pretty much the whole *ucking thing at this point.


Wed, 07/15/2009 - 16:07 | 7428 Anonymous
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The Fed put. Everyones goal in life should now be getting too big too fail. What a wonderful system. I like my moral hazard served cold.

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 16:09 | 7430 Comrade de Chaos
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I suspect no one is buying. I doubt anyone has started to re-balance their portfolios. We have yet to receive a single customer call asking to be more aggressive. Actually despite the whole rally, they want to go more conservative. (!!!) Must be machines going insane. I mean how TF would you manage the risk when decision is taken in 1/10000 sec?  It's all skynet vs. HALO implementing havoc scenarios.

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 17:36 | 7479 silencedogood
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Today looks like to me like a LOT of short covering.  The double head and shoulders pattern stopped the pop up pretty good.  Now that tomorrow's job numbers i am predicting will be WORSE (last weeks were based on a 4 day week!) than last may drop as people realize OH CRAP the fed said GDP will increase with greater unemployment and yet no one threw the BS flag on that statment!  I am expecting to see a 2% pullback at minimum tomorrow....we shall see.


Wed, 07/15/2009 - 18:29 | 7512 Anonymous
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WOPR: "Would you like to play a game?"

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 18:31 | 7514 FischerBlack
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You're getting short covering in equities and short vol covering on the VIX. Obviously few traders expected the size of the move today. Futures ran into some resistance late last night and to me it looked like there might be some opening strength, then a tradeable pullback. That theory was shot early. Even the VIX was behaving normally until 10:45 or so when everyone realized there was no reversal coming. I swear I could faintly hear the cries of 'Shit! Cover!' on the eastward breeze out of Greenwich.

Hours of entertainment today.

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 19:15 | 7543 Shaza (not verified)
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Been in cash for a while now, thanks for confirming.  Only winner is the Asia ex Japan fund I just sold( 200% profit for about 4 years) 

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 20:47 | 7580 SloSquez
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Please, no KABOOM or To the MOON.... Please.

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 20:46 | 7578 Anonymous
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WTF. Why am I still paying attention to this market? Might as well go to Vegas where I know what the odds are.

Wed, 07/15/2009 - 23:50 | 7679 Anonymous
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why is the VIXX continuously touted as a simple 'fear gauge'.... even by blp ...anyone who can use google can see it is based on a formula based on spy is an easy example of this

Thu, 07/16/2009 - 00:28 | 7688 FischerBlack
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VIX measures front month implied volatility of S&P500 index options. Not SPY. People interpret VIX readings to mean a lot of things -- risk, fear, etc. But these are just metaphorical interpretations. There's nothing rigorous or tradable about them. All VIX measures is implied volatility, and that's a very precise mathematical concept.


Added, today is just what happens when more people buy volatility instead of selling. The short vol trade has been crowded and unexpected big moves cause a lot of trade repair.


Added again, the difference between implied volatility of S&P500 index options and those with SPY underlying can create some pretty reliable arbitrage opportunities. Best of all, they can be delta-neutral.

Thu, 07/16/2009 - 02:30 | 7710 Anonymous
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Reading the summary of the "Modeling High Frequency Data in Finance" ( I found the following:

"Finally, Prof. Florescu remarked related with point 2 raised by Prof. Los that in Oct 2008 the S&P500 and the VIX indices were perfectly correlated with a correlation of over 0.98. Since Jan 2009 this behavior has dissapeared completelly. Other participants remarked that this may be due to the new way in which porfolios are hedged since that month."

In my opinion this isnt evidence for anything, but it will be interesting to see if the same thing happens once again...

Thu, 07/16/2009 - 06:14 | 7726 Anonymous
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This is the most blatantly manipulated market I've ever seen in my lifetime!!! Every time it's in danger of breaking, "THE MAGIC HAND" comes out of nowhere to drive it back to a "safe" level.

Thu, 07/16/2009 - 07:30 | 7734 Anonymous
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Any theories on the "Magic Hand"?

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