The Strategic Considerations In The Choice Of Osama's Safe House

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Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:10 | 1238674 goldfish1
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Who buys this shiite?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:14 | 1238685 Smu the Wonderhorse
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He was a Sunni, of course. But funny stuff nonetheless!

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:18 | 1239081 DocLogo
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I'd believe the official story more if the safe house was in foreclosure.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 00:14 | 1241980 nkktwotwozero
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JP Morgan REO for sure!

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:49 | 1238888 chumbawamba
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Seriously.  This is like Star Trek fans filling in all the details of the Star Trek universe, including where Captain Kirk slept, what his favorite pajamas were, how warm he commanded Computer to make his nighttime milk, etc.

Next, we'll learn what Osama billof Lading's Xbox Live screen name and what his high score on Call of Duty was, along with his internet browsing history and the favorite channels programmed on his remote.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:52 | 1238906 trav7777
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2 details not mentioned in the article....1 is it was close to the capital and ISI and lots of military folks.

2 is that it was close to the capital and ISI and lots of military folks.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:54 | 1238919 fries_with_that
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Great question - no-one sane buys it. Tyler - this ZH website has to be one of the best on the web. If you are intent on making it THE best please research this nonsense. Bin Laden has been dead for years! Please research this with an open mind. But thanks for the website ZH - much appreciated.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:12 | 1239024 goldfish1
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Bin Laden has been dead for years!

Irrelevant to the euphoria.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:20 | 1239077 Ted Celeste
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Sad but true.  ZH is still the best website out there but posting this Stratfor nonsense is embarassing.  OBL has been dead a long time.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:00 | 1240209 scratch_and_sniff
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How the f*** would you know?, what a windbag...if you want to hear yourself talk then buy a DAT recorder and stick it on a loop.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:28 | 1239113 bankonzhongguo
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"Geronimo" was not hiding.

He was hidden (by ISI and "retired" Pakistani military-intelligence). 

If you even believe the current narrative.

If you were hiding from the FBI, what resources would you need to score a private doctor, mail order bride, a ton of friends, lots of pet rabbits and build 3 story compound within 700 meters of the entrance to the FBI Academy?

For this guy to be purportedly in this area is no different than the numerous CIA and FBI "safe houses" that populate the sleepy suburbs of McLean, Falls Church, Great Falls and Vienna Virgina.

Regardless of when and how (if) UBL went off to paradise, it is clear that a major schism between the US and Pakistan has been created and will be further exploited - threats of Pakistani loose nukes to invade our underwear, or more GWOT.  Going forward, the US will be funding various "anti-Muslim" groups in India to otherwise foment more regional distrust and work on the chronic and fanatical paranoia contained in Pakistani perception of Kashmir.

Your tax dollars at work.

Meanwhile, 1 in 7 Amerikan debt prisoners are now getting Food Stamps.

Where are the bankster prosecutions Obama/Holder?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:21 | 1239449 patb
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" you want to have the ability to control the geography. You own the public safety apparatus, you have a system in place that’s going to alert you to outsiders. But it appears to me that this safe house was chosen for a specific reason and one could certainly suspect that the area was controlled by al Qaeda."

The area was controlled by the ISI. The Taliban is a ISI subsidiary,  and AL-Q was definitely in bed with ISI.

The ISI knew he was there, and, was controlling the flow to his safe house.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:38 | 1239547 Hugh G Rection
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USA USA USA!!!

 

What, you won't release pictures and he was dumped in the ocean right away? Well I guess we can all take the gubbermints word for it.

 

They should have done this with JFKs corpse, then they wouldnt have had to fix the autopsy.  Maybe examination of a body thats been on ice since 02 would ruin a wonderful story...

 

Who is going to be boogeyman #1 now??? 

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:12 | 1238681 Smu the Wonderhorse
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And how have the newly installed Duke and Duchess of Cambridge been able to "hide" in plain sight in their cottage at Anglesey for several years? No reporters, etc. bother them there. Simple: the people there like them and are happy to cooperate in their privacy.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:22 | 1239995 Diogenes
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The CIA has been looking for them for 10 years and not been able to find them, now you give them away.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:14 | 1238690 Segestan
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What kind of ' Leader' hides in a safe house? Perhaps he should have lead his troops onto the battle field, like a warrior,  instead of die like a lamb. I mean he was going down one way or another.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:22 | 1238718 writingsonthewall
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...what you mean like Bush 'lead his troops into war' - oh wait, I forgot, he didn't, he cowered like a lamb.

 

In fact - if I recall old Bush baby sat and listened to a class of chidren when he was told "sir - America is under attack" - when even the least patriotic American would have jumped up and headed off to do something about it.

 

Lets not make comparisons between the 'brave leaders' who send their subjects into war but don't attend themselves - I don't think this has really happened since George Washington (the highest ranked military president) - so people in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:24 | 1238729 NOTW777
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so much koolaid this early in the day?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:44 | 1238854 disabledvet
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i need a woman.  why do you always have to go out and get one of those, too?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:25 | 1238747 Segestan
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Stop twisting words.... I never wrote about bush. Same would apply to Bush except he never hide himself nor was he a warrior. Osama was purported to be a warrior.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:42 | 1238860 disabledvet
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he?  her?  what?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:46 | 1238862 Gert_B_Frobe
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Yes, perhaps Obambi could have gone along on the raid.

"Sorry Sir, your ride is toast and this transport is full. Don't worry, we'll come back for you."

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:53 | 1238908 Segestan
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Actually that is Exactly what Obama should have done. Just Imagine history if Mohammad did what Osama had done... hide. If you have an agenda dont respond to my post.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:42 | 1238840 NonAggressionPr...
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if we are talking rational arguments here: the guy, as sick as he was, was no chicken hawk.  he sacraficed a life of sweet luxury when he fought on the front lines as a mujahadeen against the russians and then took on the US empire.  His chances of being hunted and killed were high....

 

Piece of shit murderer: yes

Coward: no (although crazy religious wackjob)

 

 

 

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:44 | 1238872 disabledvet
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"i didn't do it" and "if you're gonna dream, dream big!"

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:55 | 1238926 trav7777
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murderer?  You mean like Harry Truman?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:49 | 1240139 HeadintheGame
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uh, dunno; kinda think King George would've referred to Sam Adams, Paul Revere and those 500 American boys who wasted all of those Brits at the North Bridge in Concord with the shot(s) heard round the world as terrorists too.  Simply depends on your perspective.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:49 | 1238851 DaveyJones
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what kind of democratic champion of freedom executes political enemies for claimed crimes without any proof, trial or procedure except for information gained through torture  

oh, that's right, we're in a war against terrorism with no boundaries, rules, limits or end

terrorism has always existed but the "war" began curiously around the time, place and people drenched in peak oil

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:54 | 1238930 trav7777
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the Israelis?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:57 | 1238953 DaveyJones
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touche

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:18 | 1238694 blindman
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he hid in plain sight because he was dead in a freezer
for the last 9 years.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:24 | 1238745 NotApplicable
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With an Al-CIA-duh controlled dummy managed by the ISI from the nearby military academy ready to take the fall.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:28 | 1238767 blindman
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Dr. Steve Pieczenik: Bin Laden, The Oswald Like Patsy Died 10 Years Ago! 1/7
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj0pM5FoYbs&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
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here the doctor throws it down !

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:58 | 1238937 trav7777
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look...the ISI and CIA are not friends.  The ISI is the real terrorist organization behind 911, the Taliban, and Mumbai, along with others.  The taliban was and is merely their foreign policy arm in the manner that Hezbollah serves as Iran's proxy

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:59 | 1238968 Raynja
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High walls with barbed wire and multiple gates. They claim he was unarmed and he had no security. Was this a safe house or a prison.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:48 | 1238879 disabledvet
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"he's been defrosted" now "here come the pics."

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:53 | 1238928 fries_with_that
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PRECISELY!!

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:19 | 1238699 mspgrandi
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if Friitzl has kept for 18 years 7 people in a basement... i really dont see how hard can it be for Obama to remain hidden in a house for a few years....It s not that Pakistani police was going there to knock the door every day....

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:22 | 1238714 disabledvet
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Had a slight mis-read at first.  Thought it said "Obama"--I did take note "no former Presidents are joining our current President on his visit to the 9/11 site."  It has been said by downhill skiiers "it is the loneliest of competitions."

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:22 | 1238735 magpie
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Lots of freudian slips going around these days.

I too was awakened on monday to the news that Americans were celebrating on the street and greeted Obama's[sic] demise.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:23 | 1238721 NonAggressionPr...
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I have to believe that something happened where they wanted him dead all of a sudden. 10 years is still too much to believe for 3 reasons:

 

1.  in a land of midgets, not too tough to find a guy thats 6'4" to 6'6"

2. diabetic that constantly needs insulin in rural pakistan

3. they did let him go in late 2001

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/afghanistan/article6937049.ece

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:29 | 1238774 bpj
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If Eric Rudolph could stay on the lam for 5 years in Georgia, then 10 years aint no big thang in Pakistan.

 

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:08 | 1239377 WeeWilly
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BPJ, Rudolph was in the NC mountains...

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:20 | 1238722 NOTW777
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wonder who holds the paper BAC or Chase.  could he get the note?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:21 | 1238725 lsbumblebee
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The best place to hide is in a crappy Hollywood movie.

http://sergfox.20x.cc/?p=4938

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:23 | 1238736 bpj
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Let the CIA release info that one of the computers was just chalked full of gay sex movies, and then sit back and watch the fun began.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:26 | 1238754 10kby2k
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Check out his 29 year old shield (wife). She's for sale.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:27 | 1238757 Greenhead
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One commentator made the point that he was being held there.  A kind of house arrest if you will.  Considering we were sending $3 billion a year to Pakistan to help with the search, I'm pretty sure they wanted to make sure the gig lasted as long as possible.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:01 | 1238963 trav7777
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yes I believe it is likely that Pakistan was harboring him, perhaps shielding him as well

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:29 | 1238758 Mr. Poon
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No discussion of the sweeping vistas?  The recently landscaped yard?  The granite countertops that Mrs. bin Laden insisted on having installed?  The neighborhood whose housing prices haven't gone down in the last 20 years?  I can't believe Stratfor pretends this is a discussion of why bin Laden picked the house, when they haven't so much as mentioned the extraordinarily spacious walk-in closets!

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