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Strategy And Tactics In The Iran-Israel Theater - How It Would Happen: A 114 Page Close Look
With Geoffrey Batt
In light of the the Herald of Scotland's discovery that massive US-originated armaments are headed for the middle east, it is relevant to evaluate the likely scenario of conflict that could and likely will transpire if the Israel-Iran situation were to escalate. For that we confer to an extended analysis prepared one year ago to the dot by the Center For Strategic and International Studies titled "Study on a Possible Israeli Strike on Iran’s Nuclear Development Facilities." While the entire presentation is fascinating, we bring your attention to slide 37, which classifies the specific required payloads for assorted tactical strikes focusing on Iranian nuclear infrastructure. And as the presentation concludes, an Iranian strike by Israel would be practically impossible without direct US involvement. Speaking of which, has anyone seen Robert Gates and Michael Mullen recently?
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Maybe Obama has delayed his trip for reasons other than selling ObamaCare...
Ok but missing a discussion of the submarines
and the possibility of a refueling stop in Oman.
"The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) is a right-wing, neoconservative think tank which was founded in 1962. Ray S. Cline was a cofounder. (36) Until 1986, CSIS..."
http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/articles/display/Center_for_Strategic...
Is there somewhere I can donate $$$ to the CSIS.....
Sure!
Get in front of a mirror. Now turn around (have your ass facing the mirror) and drop trou, including your skivvies (don't mind the streaks). Bend over as far as you can, until you can see the mirror between your legs. Ok, now see that most disgusting brown thing between your ass cheeks? That's where you put the money.
I am Chumbawamba.
Cui bono?
"However, Timothy S. Healy, president of Georgetown University, examined its affiliate and decided that CSIS was academically somewhat less credible than it claimed to be. Apparently, CSIS has no library, its faculty are seen more often on television than in the classroom (over 4,000 appearances in 1985), and its publications have a reputation (by academic standards) of being superficial. (2) CSIS has been called "a parking lot for former government big shots," and a "conservative propaganda machine," particularly for the policies of the Reagan administration. (2) Most CSIS senior fellows do not teach classes, but do draw handsome salaries (up to $70,000). (2)"
http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/articles/display/Center_for_Strategic...
Forgot This...
The University was also disturbed because large contributions to CSIS come from some of the biggest defense contractors.
'nuff said.
You got it. So says The Bumbledoublebee Center for Supposing Something Could Happen and Writing a Very Serious and Official Looking Report and Then Dragging it Out Whenever It's Politically Useful.
Or maybe we could just call it the Ministry of War (oops!) Peace. White is black, war is peace, and we have always been at war with EastAsia.
Representation eh?
The reports view on the political effect (page 101) supports the strong reaction to Israel settlements of late would be useful if the US is to imply ignorance, it would make a good cover for it.
you read 101 pages in half hour??! hats off to you bro
Lots of graphs :)
Good catch. That would make some sense of the recent and sudden Israel-US "disagreements", i.e. there are none.
http://wp.me/px1MN-fx
This was a story on NPR last thursday night.
Sorry, my comment added nothing at all to this. I'm just wondering if anyone else heard this? I thought it was strange at the time.
Anyone who isn't fixated on "American Idol" and Rush Limbaugh thinks it's strange that Iran is a threat to the U.S. and world peace.
It was an interview with participants of these "war games." I understand that certain "scenarios" are probably always being considered, but what struck me as odd was the fact that the mediator/host didn't seem fazed by this.
Your fresh, insightful and astute analysis is such a gift to the rest of us.
I'm guessing to avoid your flaming I should have signed off with
gold bitchez?
sorry to bring down the collective IQ.
I think the asshole was talking to me.
All I want in this earth is peace. I am not asking for anything but only to have peace because if one country has its peace then everything will follow. I do not think the Guardians of the Free Republics are going to achieve much, and also the right wing is getting too strange for their own good. Sending letters warning governors to resign or else, despite the fact that they don't advocate violence (they propose legislative solutions) after the business at Eric Cantor's office means many of these guys in the Restore America (part of the <a title="FBI on the edge: Guardians of the Free Republics" href="http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2010/04/02/guardians-of-the-free...">Sovereign Citizen</a> movement) thing may need payday cash advances for lawyers eventually. Of course, there is some very justified reasoning behind a lot of what these people are about.
Nukes Bitches!
Interesting, I'm waiting for the false-flag dirty-bomb attack on Chicago or St. Louis...
if one were to take place (assuming something extremely serious, ie nuke) where would it take place? When you consider the condition of the surrounding area after something like that, its hard to conceive it happening in a major city......no?
This idiocy was the subject of my "holiday" post on my blog last December... Since the reaction will be an instant 40% decrease on global oil availability, Iran is a "nuclear power" already and has been, by virtue of geography alone, since oil was exported from Saudi Arabia. The contango trade will certainly rake in a fortune, as all of those Goldman / Citi 'yachts' full of oil quadruple in net value, but the global economy will not withstand the shock for more than a few weeks.
Insightful...and it will not last more than a few weeks...remember Gulf War 1, it will last just enough to offload the contango at enormous profit.
And they will NOT go with a ground phase, they will just arm the opposition after having bombed Iran back to the stone age.
very OT, but we need a post about this. Those damn census forms are going around, remember, you only need to answer how many people are in your household, according to the Constitution (you remember that, right)?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-5095844-503544.html
come on Ghost, I see your point, but please--support your local ACORN unit--pimps and ho's gotta get theirs too!!
I wrote about this last June and used the same report as a basis. Here is what I said then:
http://brucekrasting.blogspot.com/2009/06/politics-of-gold.html
The thrust of this was timing. When might it happen? So look at the info re the Chinese supplying the Iranians with a missle defence system. 9 months ago the timing was a year or so. So that brings it pretty close to today.
I got an odd off the grid response on this. The thrust was that Israel could not execute this plan today. The would have to fly too far. They would not be able to cross the airspace of Turkey (or Jordan/Syria). I thought the guy who sent it to me sounded like he knew what he was talking about. I guessed he was spook who liked to blog.....
I bet it will be B2 Spirit Strategic Stealth bombers to deliver, not Israeli F15 E...The Spirit has the range, and is out of radar detection.
Why not some civil airliners. Worked on 9/11
I'm sorry but I don't understand your point. Are you saying you believe this CSIS paper is credible?
Israel only gets one bite at the apple. Don't know that that would be enough unless they had 100% intelligence , reached all their targets and hit them. Operating at such long range that is a tall order even for the Israeli AF.
My previous, more salty comment was deleted by ZH. So I'll be polite.
This Administration is not going to attack anyone. It is completely antithetical to their world view. The other story relating to the shipment of 400 bombs to Diego Garcia doesn't mean anything, given the thousands of bombs and hundreds of strategic assets that would need to be prepositioned to pull something like this off.
And there were would be months if not years of back and forth at the UN vis a vis sanctions. I rate the chance at 0% that we wake up one day to find that the US has launched a unilateral strike on Iran's nuclear infrastructure.
Going to delete this post too?
It could all be a cover to prepare for war against China in the not terribly distant future.
No one, apparently, has considered that angle.
I am Chumbawamba.
I won't believe a word of this until I get confirmation that Blankfein signed off on it.
Skateboarding on the Sea of Natanz*...
*Sea of Natanz- euphemistic term for the glassified zone surrounding the Natanz Uranium Enrichment Facility
Gates was in Riyadh March 10th at the Saudi's request to explain Obama's new stance on Iran
So it's the southern route then (p. 60). I was wondering how they would go past Syria without them warning Iran.
That's the easy part:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Orchard
The attack is on, and by them positioning the bunker busters at Diego Garcia says it all. The Israelis can't possibly attack all the sites, also there fighter bombers can't carry the bunker busters that far and/or can't period.
Is The US Preparing For "The Total Destruction Of Iran?" The quick answer?! "YES! SIR!”
In Iraq we lacked a paper trail for WMD's that would not have our (our being the U.S.A.'s) finger prints all over the documents...
The Russian's as the second largest producer of oil would be happy to see the Middle East get irradiated, broadly speaking... and thusly... would happily provide the paper trail for the equipment that they the Russian's did provide and how it was easily modified by Iran (who is now out of warranty because of the modifications). http://www.eia.doe.gov/cabs/Russia/Background.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4301889.stm
Russia-Iran nuclear deal signed ***(Sunday, 27 February, 2005, 12:56 GMT)***
Russia and Iran have signed an agreement for Moscow to supply fuel to Iran's new nuclear reactor in Bushehr.
Under the deal Iran has to return spent nuclear fuel rods from the reactor, which was designed and built by Russia.
So, since we learned our lesson last time… and we will need to have good proof… due to the cycle of time between the invasions… we don’t have time to wait for a generation to forget and die off… thusly, paper trail or “Proof” not an issue…
Yes, Iran is going to have a change of leadership… will it be us (us being the U.S.A. proper) or will it be Israel? Israel can bomb the leadership and Mullah’s in short order… cruise missiles are accurate to 10 feet.. (more like 30 feet, but close enough) and in this massive one blow, decapitate the snakes many heads along with the most staunch supporters of what is the Iranian’s craziness… We should have stepped in during the election… but one crazy for another and all that… plus Israel is tired of being beaten on… they need a win, to keep up moral at home.
Flag it garbage again all of you Bush luvrs... and thanks for the Lobby!
Anyone who says this is not happening… is lying to themselves. The best part is the eagle and the bear in the holy valley, ala George Bush the evangelical… he really might have been the anti Christ. Because there is no walking this back.
Russia will give up Iran, if the price is right, and the price is Europe, or the missiles the US placed on Nato soil, ostensibly to protect Europe from an Iranian attack, but which are aimed at Moscow. (It comes full circle here) We attack Iran, and then withdraw the missiles from the newly minted Nato countries, in exchange for Russia's support in stabbing Iran in the back. Obama makes a speech about a new detente, nuclear weapons reduction with the Soviets, and the Iranian nuclear threat is neutralized. It is the same seductive game theory bozo thinking that Bush loved so much, the idea that you can set off a chain of win-win-win events. Iraq was going to be a political win for the Bush Presidency - get rid of the dictator - win - open their oil to the world markets, and bring down gas prices - win - restore America's glory, lost in Vietnam - win - prevent another rogue nuclear nation from joining the club - win - the hits just kept coming, Bush couldn't keep his hands out of it.
The price of all this is Europe, and Russian control of the region through an energy monopoly. Destroying Irans nuclear facilities will actually take oil off the market, oil Iran will need for domestic purposes. Russia will let out a rebel yell when that happens. Remember Bush threw Europe under the bus during the war on terror, as he loudly bragged that we stopped terrorism, that is except in London and Madrid.
What does Obama want? Pax Americanus? Obviously. Does he have some racial animus toward Whites, particularily those old colonial empires? Bush was the anti-christ, yes, he projected his sins on the rest of the world. Is Obama really any different?
The Russian's got most of those missiles already...
U.S. replaces Bush plan for Europe missile shield
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLH51098820090917
wait? I mean…
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2010/02/201024173236190795.html
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Wait you mean the nukes?
Germany's Call for Removal of US Missiles in Europe Reopens Debate
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/europe/Europes-Nuclear-Deterrent-Debated-83904482.html
Plus! 14.06.2004
http://www.cap-lmu.de/fgz/reviews/31.php
The facts: Germany's unemployment rate is at 4,5 million, when adding the quiet reserve it is more like 5 to 6 million. Trend: consistent. Black market labor has reached, with approximately 17 % of the GDP, its highest level since the Federal Republic's coming into existence. Trend: increasing. The employer's costs on a high level. Trend: persistent. Fewer German company's go public. Trend: reaching zero. In 2002, the number of insolvencies rose 10%, not only because of new insolvency policies. Trend: restrained.
Something not so, so dated then? 06-06-05
http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/euro-chaos-8650
In Germany, for instance, a recent poll showed that 56% of the population hates the euro. They want to dump it and restore their beloved German mark.
No wonder! The German economy — like France’s — is mired in one of its worst recessions since World War II. Unemployment is running at 12%. Tax receipts are plunging. GDP growth is a paltry 1%, despite massive efforts to get it going.
How about this one?
The Germans posturing for their Gold back out of our repositories in New York video is or has been removed? I watched the Video last year… in which the cameras had to be turned off inside oval office for the emergency of the Germans wanting their gold back… this was a full access day when the problem accidently was presented… http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30892505/#31073805
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2265231/posts this summation of the event is wonderful.
The German’s… being the German’s… and going protectionist have been pre-cursory events to… The German’s being the German’s… Russia?
Russia seems to get along with whoever does not like us… have you noticed that? I would like you to review this picture and tell me if you see any animosity or worry? http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/bush-2dand-2dputin-2din-2dcar-2dgaz-2d21-2d2.jpg
http://manolomen.com/images/bush-and-putin-in-diplomatic-wear.jpg
http://thedefeatists.typepad.com/apoplectic/images/bush_putin.jpg
So… maybe you would like to see George with Putin directly after Russia practiced naval war games with Venezuela? They look like those you have already seen… Russia is one of the U.S.’s best friends the chess game that goes on is for public consumption.
War games with Venezuela…
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5225275.ece
Fishing Games with George in Maine…
http://blogs.abcnews.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/07/02/bush_putin_fishing_2.jpg
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://blogs.abcnews.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/07/02/bush_putin_fishing_2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/07/a-fish-story.html&usg=__OZBdzm7_2M7x7Jj2geINzMKgkow=&h=534&w=800&sz=315&hl=en&start=8&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=ePnR-_E0KmlzXM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbush%2Bputin%2Bdecember%2B2008%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1
So the Mid-East… has an Nuke problem as provided by Russia the World’s second largest oil producer… and America as the second largest importer I doubt they want any trade problems with us (us being the U.S. proper)… and it would seem that Russia’s friendliness with another Oil rich country at odds with the U.S. would be consistent with their (their being Russia) past behavior… to what end? World domination? Or so they can jack up the price of oil or be the number one supplier because they allowed the idiots to be what they truly are? Idiots.
I am not trying to say that the German’s are really to be watched… and that Iran is screwed… the leadership in the Bunkers is screwed… for the record the Iranian people that I saw running around with Ted Coppel look fine by me… downright friendly even… educated and not wearing Burka’s. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2642456727429311901#
Maybe we should have stepped up and helped Iran during the elections? I think so.
To answer your last question… no Obama is a Lobby puppet… don’t get me wrong Obama is a politician thusly owes and must pay his Pipers… But Obama has forwarded Bush Policies in how many different instances? Almost All!? And taken Bush’s “Right Wing Policies” and pushed them even further than Bush. That’s a fact.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=obama+continues+bush+policies&aq=0c&aqi=g-c6&aql=&oq=obama++Bush+policies&fp=a73b11f867dbecea
I have to add... these Children... like all Children should be protected from the Madness of old fools... http://dsc.discovery.com/beyond/?playerId=203711706&%3bcategoryId=226602802&%3blineupId=284952661&%3btitleId=302033983
which leads us to the Bunker Busters... sorry after watching this I thought maybe you or someone else would enjoy having it handy.
I do not think the <a title="FBI on the edge: Guardians of the Free Republics" href="http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2010/04/02/guardians-of-the-free...">Guardians of the Free Republics</a> will accomplish much, and the right wing is getting too strange for their own good. Mailing letters warning governors to resign or else, even though they do not advocate violence (they propose legislative solutions) after the business at Eric Cantor's office means a few of these guys in the Restore America (part of the Sovereign Citizen movement) thing might need payday loans for lawyers before long. Of course, there is some very justified reasoning behind a lot of what they are about.
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