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Stratfor On The Libyan War
From George Friedman of Stratfor
The Libyan War Of 2011
The Libyan war has now begun. It pits a coalition of European powers
plus the United States, a handful of Arab states and rebels in Libya
against the Libyan government. The long-term goal, unspoken but well
understood, is regime change — displacing the government of Libyan
leader Moammar Gadhafi and replacing it with a new regime built around
the rebels.
The mission is clearer than the strategy, and that strategy can’t be
figured out from the first moves. The strategy might be the imposition
of a no-fly zone, the imposition of a no-fly zone and attacks against
Libya’s command-and-control centers, or these two plus direct ground
attacks on Gadhafi’s forces. These could also be combined with an
invasion and occupation of Libya.
The question, therefore, is not the mission but the strategy to be
pursued. How far is the coalition, or at least some of its members,
prepared to go to effect regime change and manage the consequences
following regime change? How many resources are they prepared to provide
and how long are they prepared to fight? It should be remembered that
in Iraq and Afghanistan the occupation became the heart of the war, and
regime change was merely the opening act. It is possible that the
coalition partners haven’t decided on the strategy yet, or may not be in
agreement. Let’s therefore consider the first phases of the war,
regardless of how far they are prepared to go in pursuit of the mission.
Like previous wars since 1991, this war began with a very public
buildup in which the coalition partners negotiated the basic framework,
sought international support and authorization from multinational
organizations and mobilized forces. This was done quite publicly because
the cost of secrecy (time and possible failure) was not worth what was
to be gained: surprise. Surprise matters when the enemy can mobilize
resistance. Gadhafi was trapped and has limited military capabilities,
so secrecy was unnecessary.
While all this was going on and before final decisions were made,
special operations forces were inserted in Libya on two missions. First,
to make contact with insurgent forces to prepare them for coming
events, create channels of communications and logistics and create a
post-war political framework. The second purpose was to identify targets
for attack and conduct reconnaissance of those targets that provided as
up-to-date information as possible. This, combined with air and space
reconnaissance, served as the foundations of the war. We know British
SAS operators were in Libya and suspect other countries’ special
operations forces and intelligence services were also operating there.
War commences with two sets of attacks. The first attacks are
decapitation attacks designed to destroy or isolate the national command
structure. These may also include strikes designed to kill leaders such
as Gadhafi and his sons or other senior leaders. These attacks depend
on specific intelligence on facilities, including communications,
planning and so on along with detailed information on the location of
the leadership. Attacks on buildings are carried out from the air but
not particularly with cruise missile because they are especially
accurate if the targets are slow, and buildings aren’t going anywhere.
At the same time, aircraft are orbiting out of range of air defenses
awaiting information on more mobile targets and if such is forthcoming,
they come into range and fire appropriate munitions at the target. The
type of aircraft used depends on the robustness of the air defenses, the
time available prior to attack and the munitions needed. They can range
from conventional fighters or stealth strategic aircraft like the U.S.
B-2 bomber (if the United States authorized its use). Special operations
forces might be on the ground painting the target for laser-guided
munitions, which are highly accurate but require illumination.
At the same time these attacks are under way, attacks on airfields,
fuel storage depots and the like are being targeted to ground the Libyan
air force. Air or cruise missile attacks are also being carried out on
radars of large and immobile surface-to-air (SAM) missile sites.
Simultaneously, “wild weasel” aircraft — aircraft configured for the
suppression of enemy air defenses — will be on patrol for more mobile
SAM systems to locate and destroy. This becomes a critical part of the
conflict. Being mobile, detecting these weapons systems on the ground is
complex. They engage when they want to, depending on visual perception
of opportunities. Therefore the total elimination of anti-missile
systems is in part up to the Libyans. Between mobile systems and
man-portable air-defense missiles, the threat to allied aircraft can
persist for quite a while even if Gadhafi’s forces might have difficulty
shooting anything down.
This is the part that the United States in particular and the West in
general is extremely good at. But it is the beginning of the war.
Gadhafi’s primary capabilities are conventional armor and particularly
artillery. Destroying his air force and isolating his forces will not by
itself win the war. The war is on the ground. The question is the
motivation of his troops: If they perceive that surrender is
unacceptable or personally catastrophic, they may continue to fight. At
that point the coalition must decide if it intends to engage and destroy
Gadhafi’s ground forces from the air. This can be done, but it is never
a foregone conclusion that it will work. Moreover, this is the phase at
which civilian casualties begin to mount. It is a paradox of warfare
instigated to end human suffering that the means of achieving this can
sometimes impose substantial human suffering itself. This is not merely a
theoretical statement. It is at this point at which supporters of the
war who want to end suffering may turn on the political leaders for not
ending suffering without cost. It should be remembered that Saddam
Hussein was loathed universally but those who loathed him were
frequently not willing to impose the price of overthrowing him. The
Europeans in particular are sensitive to this issue.
The question then becomes the extent to which this remains an air
operation, as Kosovo was, or becomes a ground operation. Kosovo is the
ideal, but Gadhafi is not Slobodan Milosevic and he may not feel he has
anywhere to go if he surrenders. For him the fight may be existential,
whereas for Milosevic it was not. He and his followers may resist. This
is the great unknown. The choice here is to maintain air operations for
an extended period of time without clear results, or invade. This raises
the question of whose troops would invade. Egypt appears ready but
there is long animosity between the two countries, and its actions might
not be viewed as liberation. The Europeans could do so. It is difficult
to imagine Obama adopting a third war in Muslim world as his own. This
is where the coalition is really tested.
If there is an invasion, it is likely to succeed. The question then
becomes whether Gadhafi’s forces move into opposition and insurgency.
This again depends on morale but also on behavior. The Americans forced
an insurgency in Iraq by putting the Baathists into an untenable
position. In Afghanistan the Taliban gave up formal power without having
been decisively defeated. They regrouped, reformed and returned. It is
not known to us what Gadhafi can do or not do. It is clear that it is
the major unknown.
The problem in Iraq was not the special operations forces. It was not
in the decapitation strikes or suppression of enemy air defenses. It
was not in the defeat of the Iraqi army on the ground. It was in the
occupation, when the enemy reformed and imposed an insurgency on the
United States that it found extraordinarily difficult to deal with.
Therefore the successes of the coming day will tell us nothing. Even
if Gadhafi surrenders or is killed, even if no invasion is necessary
save a small occupation force to aid the insurgents, the possibility of
an insurgency is there. We will not know if there will be an insurgency
until after it begins. Therefore, the only thing that would be
surprising about this phase of the operation is if it failed.
The decision has been made that the mission is regime change in
Libya. The strategic sequence is the routine buildup to war since 1991,
this time with a heavier European component. The early days will go
extremely well but will not define whether or not the war is successful.
The test will come if a war designed to stop human suffering begins to
inflict human suffering. That is when the difficult political decisions
have to be made and when we will find out whether the strategy, the
mission and the political will fully match up.
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perhaps the elitists have thought it out, noonan. we are getting similar reports regarding the entire north coast of the continent of Africa:
1) the oil is playing out, revenues are down, and people are just not doing well, viv-a-vis 'modernization'.
2) strong men of the oil days need to adios and get ready for a new deal, here.
3) this area is the southern flank of europe and the northern zone of interface with Africa, as well as of keen interest to israel, if i don't miss my guess. it is also right there that israel may be important for the defense of this part of africa somehow, or are maybe not gonna let it just be up for grabs.
4) suffice it to say there is a lotta beachfront property involved, right across the pond from the french riviera and Monte Carlo.
5) the moslem world which has keen interests here, as we also saw in egypt, seems side-tracked in 2 places over stuff which is, apparently, quite newsworthy.
slewie thinks that keeping the moslem world distracted is the lynchpin of the "allied" strategy.
Could be - but my view is that the business elite don't think past the next quarter and the political elite don't think past the next election.
perhaps we are both correct, mark.
maybe we could get to the "perceived elite" and the "elite elite". what you say is true for the former. the latter are the creme de la creme and may be factoring such things as dollar crash, food inflation, and the future role of the IMF and World Bank, depending on outcome a), b), c), &tc.
diff groups of internationalist banksters hold frequent meetings all over the place. they are "financing" every military asset on the chessboard, except for moQ, whose accounts they drained! they seem to own the US goobermint and maybe a few others, also. how many nations have banking "problems"?
when the Federal Reserve Act became US LAW almost 100 years ago, were there not politicians and banksters thinking PAST the next election and financial reports? were there not international agents involved? secrecy? duplicity? the need to make sure no one with a voice connected the dots till it was too late? financial interests colluding to back 3 men for president?
yep. could be...
Well said! That's the real key to understanding these games.
The "perceived elite" (corporate CEOs, bankers, politicians) are the magician's left hand, while the magician's right hand (TPTB) is where the control is. As 'Creed' said above: one needs to "dig deeper than the 20th century" to understand the long-term strategies and the reasons for them.
TPTB work on almost geological timescales ... not current quarter, not current year, not current decade, not even current generation.
The "moslem world" is auto-destracting, auto-destructing, auto-fucked. No need for an external force to mess it up. We are its life support, not the other way around. We feed its existence. It continues screwing itself over. We don't need to distract it for that to continue.
Now that is some funny shit coming from a member of an auto-distracting, auto-destructing, auto-screwed, sheepy-looking, dumb, drugged, angry, lazy populace.
of course, I'm presuming you are an American (the vast majority of them anyways).
You are their life support? I'll count that as delusions of grandeur.
You feed it's existance?
The kool aid has you by your nuts TBT man.
ORI
excellent../.the hand of the arab is always against his brother, always has been
The "moslem world" is auto-destracting, auto-destructing, auto-fucked. No need for an external force to mess it up. We are its life support, not the other way around. We feed its existence. It continues screwing itself over. We don't need to distract it for that to continue.
BO and his team must be holding their collective breath. Most Americans don't know much about Libya, beyond its cartoonish leader Qaddafi. I doubt they are prepared to risk much money and certainly not much American life to effect regime change. I know there are no "boots on the ground" but these wars are tricky, aren't they. A few American dead and BO's prospects don't look so hot. How many wars can one man fight simultaneously?
We'll soon find out if three is the limit for a Peace Prize winner...
Wars are cheap dudes, it's the occupations that are expensive. We are still occupying Japan, Germany, and Kosovo. Afhanistan and Iraq are pretty hot, lotta soldiers there, but not as mant as you'd think, compared to the total force available.
Don't forget Cuba. Fidel is a personal puppet of the Rockefellers.
But when he is no loger needed...he'll get the treatment too.
Bring "democracy" back to Cuba. Pack the island with McDonalds, Walmarts.
Let them party like it's 1999. Then...start another "revolution".
It's a formula that always works. Until it doesn't.
Most Americans don't know much about anything (present company excepted)! And they will have no say at all in whether the US stays or goes.
Most Americans were against the Gulf War and TARP and where did that get them?
Canada would be willing to spend troops. You can count on PM Harper.
Canada is sending troops? What are they going to do?
Club baby Libyans and make purses with their skin?
Waste of money, waste of time.
I'm entertained, all the same.
If they had gotten Spain in on it, they could have taken North Africa first which makes taking the rest of Africa easier, and gives you another front to engage Brazil...
Hmmm...O'bumble is in Brazil...
Maybe they're just stacking the troops there so they can attack North Africa from Brazil? These guys are cagey players...
How will this be paid you ask?
With your gold and silver!
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/03/18/libya-cost-no-fly-zone
Regime change to what, and why? Helloooo?
Farrakhan warns, advises Obama on Libya
One of the most eloquent common sense speeches I have heard lately.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY-_JsNrxiM
One of the most eloquent common sense speeches I have heard lately.
Farakhan has common sense? Farakhan wants to kill whitey & take the reins of power in America for himself & his sycophants. You are way way off the deep left end.
That douchebag can't wait for an opportunity to use his black muslim warriors on white people. There's going to be blood a foot deep in Shitcago.
Farakhan, Rev. Wright, William Ayers, Obama- peas in a communist terroristic Christian white people hating pod.
You need to start thinking bigger and look at the big picture. If there is one thing I have learned is that you can sometimes find truth in what you might consider the strangest places. What you say is true, once upon a time, but then a man can change, a man can grow in wisdom, a man can start seeing the big picture and realize that this problem we have , has nothing to do ( in reality) with so-called black white issues, but is something that goes much deeper than that. Listening to him , I see that he knows this and in his old age, he no longer cares what anyone else thinks. He speaks from the heart. Can you name one white man that you know of , that says things like this? Name one. In the end my friend, when the shtf, you may be surprised who is alled with who, on the mean streets of Chicago......
I think the changes for him about race etc, started in the 90's when his people started making a close and well researched look into just who it was that was in charge of the institution of slavery in this country, just who it was that brought slaves here, who benefitted financially from the slave trade in this country and just how many black people from Africa died as a direct result of this horrible institution. I believe it was during these years that this man named Farrakhan changed.
Here he is in 1995, talking about banking. Have you ever been to church and heard such a sermon? I think not, surely not in any 501-3c church where they cannot speak of such things or lose their tax free status....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxO-z0XWaLc
a white man? David Duke?
Too true, you can find truth in the strangest places sometimes. Whenever the main stream media vilifies a person, hates on them or calls them names then it's time to peek and see what that person is *really* saying. Listen to their entire interview, speech or presentation then analyze and decide for yourself. Farrakhan's WVON interview and 1995 speech have too much truth to appear in MSM.
Outstanding speech. Full of truth. It will be remembered very soon indeed. Thanks for posting!
If you are not up to speed on Algeria, spend a little time on it. Its similar to Afghanistan in many important ways.
Other than the US army not being engaged there to the tune of 100k troops, nor our Dim-ocratic party having harped on about Algeria being the location of the legitimate war since, oh, about 2003. France is pretty pissed about Algeria still today, but not much US blood or treasure has been lost there, and France today is almost as ridiculous as Algeria, IMHO.
France still pissed at the headbutting Algerian for losing the world cup to Italy?
A pretty lame analysis. Nothing insightful or "out of the box" thinking was expressed in this article. All the author does is ponder outcomes and demonstrate his mastery of the obvious.
Any first year plebe could have written this.
still, i consider it a pretty good place to start, with the obvious. when i posted above, i critiqued the lack of info on the rebs, so that got me into some homework, and now i have a little better idea of the playaz, esp the Rebs.
when i got into bankster and possible israeli interests & input into this (mossad), wondering if the "From Gaza With Love" burst of 20 mortars into israel might be the Pales way of expressing their unhappiness with israel over this "intervention", Ameexnal started calling me names and tried to argue a much more superficial "just linear progression, here, since WWII" analysis which, once his values started showing, left at least one zero on the floor, laughing.
this, to me: "I wonder if you also blame the mossad for your severe mental retardation. You have the facts right up in front of you, but you turn around and keep feeding the nazi inside of you. This is about european colonialist interests." okey dokey.
hey, maybe it is! didn't (don't) these interests have banksters? are they not involved in intel & intrigue? are there not embassies, and agencies swapping "information"? i am not the only one who mentioned banksters and the $; other wrote of china & ruska laughing up their sleeves, of the m. brotherhood "claiming" another state, and so on.
my opinion is that mossad is stronger and pulling more strings than most people give them credit for. i can't prove it, but it explains more of what i see and read, that way, so, yes, it IS a slewie operational hypothesis, and i will own it. more answering another comment.
peace?
slewie, you do good work. We've seen the rebz with lotsa' Soviet h/w, no fire discipline (I wonder how many 'civilians' have been killed with 7.62x39 coming down vertically at terminal velocity.
Where is the log tail? (we both know about tail, n'est ce pas?) Who is 'permitting' it to function? Where are the depots?
- Ned
{Mossad b bad. When I say bad, baby, that means good.}
"...special operations forces were inserted in Libya on two missions. First, to make contact with insurgent forces...." We're from the government and we're here to help you.
"sign this blank paper and we'll give you a no-fly zone"
Stratfor: "The test will come if a war designed to stop human suffering begins to inflict human suffering. That is when the difficult political decisions have to be made and when we will find out whether the strategy, the mission and the political will fully match up."
They will not match up.
You have to read up on Sarkozy and the Mediterranean Union to understand this. Nobody is bombing Libya "to protect innocent civilians" as we have been hearing all the heads of states repeating over and over these last few days/weeks. Does anyone ever recall any Western nation going in militarily to protect "innocent civilians"?? Let me know. I can't think of any.
"The Mediterranean Union: Dividing the Middle East and North Africa"American and European automobiles don't run on service agreements. The majority of Iraqi output is pledged to the Chinese, isn't it?
What's NEW...Remember the CIA in Congo 1961? Lumumba out! Mobutu in! TY Cia... Remember 'France-Afrique' in Gabon, French Congo, Cameroun, than Angola ...all west Africa, PRECISELY since 1961 to counter CIA thrust in Belgian Congo. It got so bad that they tore up Nigeria as French (ELF) and Anglo-Dutch interests (SHELL) fought to control the Nigerian oil patch in 1968-1969, Biafran war Crisis. Then it went to Chad where Q and France faced up for ten years before Lockerbie. Then it went to Algeria where US and French interests fought for Algerian gas (LNG). Then it went on into Egypt where Nasser's successor Sadat jumped into bed with "Dear Henry" kicking out all European intervention through surrogate "Arab League"...Boutros-Boutros... Then it went to Sudan and Darfour. Now it's back in Libya.
Conclusion : Africa like the world is very round. But we knew that since Galileo. Unless you are a latter day born again catholic fundamentalist who thinks NWO is... USA, USA, all the way. And the world stays flat!
Quoting from Nebojsa Malic’s “To the Shores of Tripoli: Blundering into Libya” on ANTIWAR.COM
“Between all the non-news about Libya and the shocking images of devastation wrought by the earthquake and the tsunami in Japan, the tiny Gulf kingdom of Bahrain has received very little media attention. It is the events in Bahrain, however, driving up the global oil prices and possibly portending a wider conflict in the Gulf.
“Bahrain is an island kingdom ruled by a Sunni Arab dynasty with connections to the Saudi royals, itself connected to Saudi Arabia by a causeway. The majority of Bahrainis, however, are Shia Muslims. For a month now, the people have been demonstrating against the government in Manama, only to be clubbed, gassed, and shot. All assembly has now been banned, and Saudi troops have entered Bahrain to help the royal family suppress the protests. Even as Washington called on the government to negotiate with the protesters, all the protest leaders were under arrest.
“How come there are no calls for an intervention in Bahrain? Well, for one, it is a major base for the U.S. 5th Fleet. Sunni Arab rulers of Arabia and the Gulf states have been the principal U.S. allies for decades. So, while the Shia majority in Bahrain is crushed so as not to give their brethren in Saudi Arabia any ideas, Washington turns the other way.
“This may well provoke Iran, which sees itself as a protector of Shia interests in the region. Strangely, Washington doesn’t seem to care. Unless a war with Iran is what the Empire really wants…”
http://original.antiwar.com/malic/2011/03/18/to-the-shores-of-tripoli-2/
I really appreciate you. Like the induction of Abesenth brew. You boil off nicely with a smooth icey re-lease.
You are a cosmopolite. Hemmingway’s "Death in the Afternoon" - 74% free speech! The ban’s been grudgingly lifted in the U.S….but for how long?
Libya hipocracy and the betrayal of the UN........
http://nakedempire2.blogspot.com/
Libya hipocracy and the betrayal of the UN........
http://nakedempire2.blogspot.com/
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Gadhafi is done, no way out... question is will he burn the oil fields or not?
you guys know that these chaps been calling for world war 3 every day for the last 10 years right?
Q says he is going to bomb civilian centers in Europe if they give him this ongoing tough shit. The Reporter asked him to be more explicit. Q replied "I will send my followers to eat all those french fries in Corsica. They will take the Champs Elysees by storm".The crowd chanted " We will die for our great Guide". The camels snorted "Nobody knows how to dig his heels into our hides like the great Q, our desert fox". The women swooned as they whispered "It is an honor to be by his side...Oh, boogie nights". They formed a human shield around his camp. One woman triumphantly shouted "Even Hillary Clinton can't get him now, like RR tried. We will defend him with our lives". One reporter was heard telling the other..."Q and Hillary would be quite a honey-moon match for a night at the Oasis in Vegas". They chased the two reporters from Tripoli with flying shoes for having suggested that Q would bunga-bunga with Hillary. "He is no Bill Clinton" they shouted at the fleeing reporters. "She is no Monica Lewinski" muttered the reporters as they ran to save their pants from being ripped off. It made the twitter around the world. Now every american female wants to go to Tripoli for a night with Q-camel. To show him what true "Monica style" US generosity has to offer the world.
it won't and quickly or as easy as everyone thinks. Just look where MG is. in the middle of tripoli surrounded by thousands of people, troops and even western 'news reporters'. A human shield. now, how do you think anyone can take him out just with this no fly zone? he basically can sit there for ages and keep doing whatever his fucked up neurons in the head thinks of.
As I said before any "economic end times" scenario that does not contemplate the actions of the US military is incomplete.
Last Friday, the pundits of PBS news hour gave their weekly analysis of the news. When they discussed Libya, they pontificated about the degree Obama was handling the affair astutely, and about the "humanitarian" crisis.
But they didn't mention "OIL" even once.
This Stratfor analysis is more of the same.
Stated humanitarian motives of the ruling elite are patently false despite the willingness of the general populace to uncritically believe in them. The goal of "regime change" posited by Stratfor begs the obvious question: WHY?
Libya is estimated to have twice the oil reserves of the United States. Libya has been on the (neoCON/neoLIB) list of places where oil resources needed to be "secured" for some time.
Libya has huge gas and oil reserves that are considered “vitally” important, especially to Europe. The usual financial vampire suspects have been active in Libyan finances. But so also has China invested heavily. The US/Europe would be happy to muscle in against the Chinese, especially with the added prospect of gaining control over the Trans-Saharan gas pipeline from Nigeria to Algeria, expected online in 2015.
Oceania has *always* been at war with Eurafrica. To suggest otherwise is crimethink.
Based on recent experience, let's go ahead and make a few bold predictions:
- The early moments of the war will be reported as a spectacular success with hardly a casualty... for both sides.
- Fast forwarding 3 months, or possibly 3 years, let me tell you how it ends: with an uneasy puppet on the throne, just as in Afghanistan, Iraq and even Iran in the 1950s.
- It's a good thing that, if they sense defeat, Q's forces aren't smart enough to blend into the populace and conduct an asymmetrical war of attrition against western occupiers and their puppet regime. No one would ever think of that.
- Going *way* out on a limb - this puppet will offer extraordinarily generous rates to British, Italian, French and American oil companies who wish to work in Libya, in return for a cut for himself.
Seen enough of this shit to last a lifetime at this point. Hopefully, Q will burn those refineries and oil terminals to the fucking waterline so we can see how long the US can handle $6 gasoline.
Let me see if I have this straight.
Coalition (loose) military forces (check)
UN resolution beforehand (check -- resolution 1973!!!)
Resolution sponsored by Britain and France to dodge possible vetos -- (check)
France looking like the main 'counter-aggressor' -- (uh, check)
Bits of the ArabLeague in on the 'plan' --- (uh, possibly...)
US keeping a lowish profile (check)
Whole op run by committee (++ check)
So when this degenerates to guerrilla desert warfare -- who ends up holding the baby?
Memo to committee : If this lasts longer than a week -- it's a SNAFU. Decap quick, and move on.
PS You've probably given Al-quaeda in the Magreb a resource base. Good one.
Obuma the great unifier..his school records - under lock down, his BC secret, now he makes war while partying in Rio.
is there anyone on ZH who can defend this man??
anyone???
even our Nation of Islam leader has said this weekend to Obuma: "who do you think you are??
well I can understand that even Obuma does not know who he is..it's secret.
How our military can act on his orders makes those that have tried to have his backround made public the true hero's of our age as they are marched off to prison..
Obama may be "partying" the way to the rape and pillage of Brazil...offshore drilling deeper than in the Gulf of Mexico, and more nuclear plants.
See the list of his corporate fellow travelers:
http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=48881Dear Brazil, As you can see, we want you to be a subject of the crown (as it were). You have resources that my corporate overlords covet. You can invite us to put in military bases for your safety or you can begin to have a terrorist problem. There is a misconception that you have to supply both sides to be on the right side of history. The correct reading is that you have to be both sides to be on the right side of history. ( If you catch my drift)Obama.
p.s. Have you had the gay Rio Carnival parade yet?
Al-quaeda already has a resource base in the Magreb: Spain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOe-sRUnO7Y&NR=1
Louis Farrakhan discusses banking. You must hear this. Unbelievable.
I made the rounds of the Sunday morning church shows on televsion just to see what was being said this morning. It was as I had suspected. They are all ignoring the world around them and pretending that nothing is happening. This is one of the reasons why I quit going to organized church. It was the rampant hypocrisy and the willful ignorance that is on display these days in the American church. I simply no longer can abide with it. They too, are part of the problem and not part of the solution. This I fully know now.
I noticed the chumpstain news reporters and curious onlookers around destroyed Libyan government armor as a result of being attacked by Nato planes etc., near Benghazi. They had better hope against hope that they did not use DU rounds in those Vulcan cannons or whatever is in those planes these days. I sincerely believe they probably are using DU.
http://rense.com/general93/roth.htm
It must be stated, that any damaged vehicles hit with this stuff must be considered a extremely unhealthy place to be around. If any of you don't believe me, ask the man who was tasked with cleaning up Iraq after the war.
Major Doug Rokke
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvIqhVnaalo
http://www.ecotecture.com/library_eco/interviews/rokke_du_1a.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3551.htm
What they will do in Libya, they have done in other places and will continue to do. It is now being said that perhaps half of the population of India is infected with DU radiation poisoning as a direct result of their exposure to radioactive nano particles from the DU that was used in Iraq and now has been spread by the winds to other areas. It is obvious they are killing the population of the world. We do this to ourselves and we think we know what we are doing. What fools we are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDGl0QccKrw
"A new gov't run by the rebels"... No that sounds STABILE?
You don’t stop the Libyan army with a bunch of kids. These people are more organized than you think.
And, you know something? These are people just like all people. They would like to decide what's best for their lives rather than leave it to someone else – be it Gaddafi or Joe Biden. IOW, they’re saying, If it’s all the same to you, we’d’ just as soon decide ourselves.
Yes, some have malicious and awful motives, and, yes, some are business men; Patrick Henry was a business man who fought the Stamp Act for business reasons, but he was willing, the same as many Libyans, to give his life for something else, and that was freedom
All that these Libyans are asking is a chance. And here come the airplanes, the bankers, the Stalin-like tyrants, wanting more and more money, more and more pleasure, more and more control, to stomp on their faces.
There are so many who don’t know how to add 2 and 2 together, yet, they know what’s best for these people - "just nuke ‘em." Or, as the British used to say: They’re wonderful workers.
Wouldn't this be a war against the speculators who are positioned to profit from $200 per barrel oil?
I sure hope so, because if it isn't, it's a war to benefit those same speculators and then I'll pay $6 for gas.
Ok, so it's basically several bankrupt Western nations against one tiny oil rich nation with lots of gold and money.....mmmmmm.
Hamas rockets falling on Israel again. Hmmm ,let's see here.
Well what we do know is that the creature known as hamas is a mossad operation.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html
It was created by the mossad to conflict with and to destroy the PLO organization which has outlived its usefulness.
So let's see why this is happening now. Hmmm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0pjvwSt-dY
The Israelis want to make it look like they are the poor babies are being attacked and so they can attack the Palestinians and it looks like the poor inocent Israelis are doing nothing worse than responding to unwarranted attacks from those wascally terrorist in Gaza....
Yep that's about it.
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You're on a roll today. Well done!