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Stunning Time Lapse Video Of China Completing 15 Story Hotel In 6 Days

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Repeat after us - there is no Chinese bubble </sarc>.

Although none is needed, here is some commentary

As the United States and China battle over the finer points of currency manipulation at the G-20 summit, American negotiators may want to take note of this startling testimonial to the productivity of Chinese workers: A construction crew in the south-central Chinese city of Changsha has completed a 15-story hotel in just six days. If nothing else, this remarkable achievement will stoke further complaints from American economic pundits that China's economy is far more accomplished than ours in tending to such basics as construction.

The work crew erected the hotel -- a soundproofed, thermal-insulated structure reportedly built to withstand a magnitude 9 earthquake -- with all prefabricated materials. In other words, a crew of off-site factory workers built the sections, and their on-site counterparts arranged them on the foundation for the Ark project.

h/t Clavin


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Fri, 11/12/2010 - 15:50 | 723020 scratch_and_sniff
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And it only took them 5 minutes to knock it down again!

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 15:53 | 723024 Divided States ...
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I wondered what the inside looks like?? Have anyone been to the Olympic Nest egg stadium?...outside looks emaculate, inside its a dump.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:02 | 723071 dogbreath
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my guess.  Ikea junk.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:27 | 723164 hedgeless_horseman
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Those chi.coms will make bad-ass combat engineers soon enough.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:17 | 723341 Herd Redirectio...
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They are pretty decent financial engineers too, from what I have heard.  When you refi your mortgage, or get home equity, in China you lend that money to a LOAN SHARK!  And the loan shark promises you fantastic rates of return.

How does he do it?  Surely not by way of Ponzi?  Paying out old investors with the funds from new investors? 

Yep, the loan sharks use the money to further speculate in the real estate market, driving prices even higher! I have heard that millions of Chinese have 'earned income' in this way.  The gov't has allowed it because the CCP officials are often in the middle of it, and the extra 'income' means the gov't is under less pressure to increase wages.

One thing is for sure, this won't end well!

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 19:50 | 723698 aleph0
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"They are pretty decent financial engineers too, from what I have heard. "


Very much so !
I worked along side a 27 yr. old Chinese graduate, 10y yrs. later he 's a VP at JPM.

+ 400,000 Engineers graduate each year from Chinese Unis.

+ a city the size of Philadelphia is built in China each MONTH !


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:49 | 723805 sgt_doom
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I just wish those Chinese wouldn't use the PCs and terminals in public places in America (libraries and online cafes, etc.) as they routinely beat the holy s**t out of the keyboards.

Guess they think they are all anvils???

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 00:14 | 724215 i-dog
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In China, we call a hammer a "chinese screwdriver". :)

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:24 | 723880 zaphod
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26 year olds are "VPs" at JPM these days.


Being a VP in a bank just means that you're not a new college hire.....

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 01:10 | 724269 TBT or not TBT
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VPs can sign stuff!   There is a lot of paperwork in need of signing, so...

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 23:45 | 724170 A Nanny Moose
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+ a city the size of Philadelphia is built in China each MONTH !

Staggering numbers. Looks like the junkers are out again. Chinese Junk?

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 19:03 | 723618 Bob
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That was my instant thought. 

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:10 | 723104 thefatasswilly
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So? Can American contractors build something of equally shitty quality in the same timeframe? Doubt it.

Does America even bother building stuff anymore?

"lol we don't make shit, but heylook what those damn chinks are building isn't great, so obviously amerika is the GREATESTER EVER"

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:11 | 723120 Ragnarok
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Listen buddy, America can build gigantic, well constructed commercial space that will never be used thank you very much.  I'm tired of driving 4 miles to the nearest Wal-mart, in fact build one around my house.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:29 | 723372 Red Neck Repugnicant
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First, American unions are responsible for QE2, as proven by Glenn Beck's connect-the-dots theory of everything.

Now, we have video proof that American workers are far less productive than their Chinese counterparts.

American workers:  The real reason America is in the ditch.

Glenn Beck nightly 8pm on Faux. 

Anyone have any commercial free links to Beck episodes? 


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:45 | 723418 tmosley
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Nobody cares, FYI.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 18:56 | 723594 Red Neck Repugnicant
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FYI, yes they do.

The thread with the Glenn Beck video from last week had 400 comments, and incredulously, most comments were in support of him. 

While that's disappointing, it also gives me great encouragement that there are many readers around here that I can teach and influence for the better - like you. 

I simply want to make you a better person.

Help me, help you.     



Fri, 11/12/2010 - 23:14 | 724121 A Broken Bear
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Ha I love the writing style haha!

Beck is a Shill, I watch one episode where he blames US foreign policy for contributing to 9/11 in another episode many months later he tears a "liberal" apart for making the same statement. He is like that dude in V for Vendetta, saying he wants to kill V this rape V that. V turns up at his house and he soils himself

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:49 | 723434 Blues Traveler
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Faux News, fuck you, this is not a politcal site

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 19:03 | 723581 Red Neck Repugnicant
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Actually, this is a political site because the corruption on Wall Street is kept alive by the umbilical cord from Washington.  If you think Washington and Wall Street are mutually exclusive, then you haven't seen the ball since kickoff and you're running the wrong direction with your pants down. Pull up your pants and get a clue!   

Second, your low-brow, barnyard language is very unbecoming.  If you don't know what inside Tyler Durden's briefcase, it would behoove you to find out.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 19:06 | 723619 stewie
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Yeah he (they) sells GoogleAdds!  Everybody gotta pay the bills...

Figuratively, he sells an opinion that's closer to the truth than a lot out of others there.

But that's obvious.  So, what the heck else did you mean by that? 


BTW, this imagery is hilarious:  " haven't seen the ball since kickoff and you're running the wrong direction with your pants down."

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:25 | 723757 snowball777
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Remind me not to let you near my barnyard, perv.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:28 | 723764 Paul S.
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You're right.  And you are the complete opposite because insinuating Republicans are rednecks and repugnant is very cosmopolitan.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 23:47 | 724173 A Nanny Moose
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....and said teaching will begin, when? Will there be free K00l-Aid?

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 08:31 | 724519 SheHunter
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Why so many deletes?  You comment is well worth the read if only for the  'you haven't seen the ball since kickoff and you're running the wrong direction with your pants down  ' line.  The umbilical cord runs both directions.  Truly a symbiotic, mutualistic relationship between Wall St and DC.  Parasitic for the rest of us.  

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:22 | 723754 Troublehoff
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Zero Hedge, not political? That's like saying the sport pages of your chosen rag only report the stats.


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:55 | 723450 Dirtt
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SEIU gives me hope for America's future.  So does Richard Trumpka.

UAW Volt anyone?

(Soros sure has a loaded payroll.)

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:26 | 723760 snowball777
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You obviously haven't spoken with the purple people eaters directly.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 19:55 | 723705 The Real Fake E...
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i def agree that the American union is responsible for destroying the American worker, meanwhile the unions are often made up of, you guessed it: lawyers, conmen and salesmen.  Much like wall street and washington.  the unions have managed to convince corporations that continuing to pay ludicrous pension benefits is of benefit to everyone, only at a cost to every member by way of union dues every pay check.  Furthermore, unions are getting kickbacks by passing on the insanely high retirement/pension savings to wall street in order to "invest" and grow their pensions.  of course as we all know, it's nothing more than a ponzi scheme as current workers pay out retired workers, and the vicuous cycle continues forever and ever (until there is no more growth, or unemployment is so high amongst union members that fees can't cover benefits)

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 10:25 | 724629 Snidley Whipsnae
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The most powerful union in America is the in, American Medical Association.

Most have only a vague notion of it's existance.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:49 | 723806 mikey
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Hey Red Neck DOUCHEBAG...

American workers are the real reason America is in the ditch??  Go fuck yourself.  The real reason America is in the ditch is because of all the beauracratic bullshit that we have to put up with, like EPA regulations, OSHA regulations, safety meetings, lawsuits, excessive code restrictions, etc.   

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:03 | 723837 Red Neck Repugnicant
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Mikey doesn't like it!

I find it very strange that you could eat - to everyone's amazement - thousands of bowls of soggy Life cereal, yet you can't stomach a little sarcasm.


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:17 | 723868 Nostradumbass
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Hey Mikey, lets try to get you understand SARCASM - OK?

Now read this again - "First, American unions are responsible for QE2, as proven by Glenn Beck's connect-the-dots theory of everything."

Now, Mikey, do you think that the writer was being SERIOUS or SARCASTIC?


Let us know OK?

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:50 | 723807 mikey
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Hey Red Neck DOUCHEBAG...

American workers are the real reason America is in the ditch??  Go fuck yourself.  The real reason America is in the ditch is because of all the beauracratic bullshit that we have to put up with, like EPA regulations, OSHA regulations, safety meetings, lawsuits, excessive code restrictions, etc.   

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:13 | 723835 Money Squid
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Mr. Red Neck, I respectfully disagree with your position that unions are responsible the problems with the American economy. Workers worked 10/12 days seven days-per-week for less money than they needed to survive. Luckily, the Rich business owners provided living space and a company store and charged rates to ensure endless debt. Also, the working conditions for adults were dangerous and if you were not killed on the job your were likely to be killed by the job via over exposure to chemicals, heat, coal name it. Workers realized they needed to band together fight for, and die for, decent wages and work hours. I hope you realize how recent the five-day work week really is. The company owners new they could pay higher wages and pensions because of the schemes they played with the IRS and avoiding paying into the pension programs to fattent he bottom line so they could take the money as a fat salary and perks. Most of the value of the companies have been looted by a relatively few at the top screwing over all the workers, union or not, and passing the bill to the tax payers. The average working person could for a while on one income buy a home, car, raise a family and send two kids to school. Now, two imcomes is not enough to survive.   The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class is a great presentation by Elizabeth Warren.  Ms. Warren describes clearly how through increased costs and reduced wages the middle class is losing ground every year. In comparisson, the richest get everything and the rest get less every year. I have seen many union workers that are lazy and over paid, however, their jobs have been stolen out from under them by the rich who moved these jobs to countries where they can litterly work their employees to death for a pennies-per-day. Bashing the unions workers, the illegal imigrants, the poor, the uneducated is the exactly what the super rich want, to distract you from the real danger of what is happening. Everyone in this country who takes any payout from Social Security is a union worker. If you or any of you family takes any payments from the government, you, or they, are union workers. I do not not care if all the unions are broken up, but if they are the working conditions for every man and woman will deteriorate back to what they were prior to the unionization period. Our society is supposed to be one of intelligence, kindness, liberty, freedom (economic freedom included) and prosperity for all, not economic enslavement to the super rich.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:22 | 723875 Nostradumbass
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Money Squid,

Refer to Mikey's lesson on sarcasm above... RedNeckRepugnicant never actually blamed workers.


Sat, 11/13/2010 - 01:11 | 724271 Money Squid
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DOH !    You kids and your <sarcasm>

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:35 | 723905 Red Neck Repugnicant
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@ money squid

The opinions of Glenn Beck are so thick with bullshit that it's difficult to see his head through the roiling miasma of methane in front of his mouth. If the EPA were to measure the air quality in front of his face, he would be forced to have a catalytic converter surgically implanted between his lips.

My post about unions is pure sarcasm, at the expense of Beck and those that ignorantly follow him.  Last week, he actually had the audacity to blame American unions for QE2, yet the real knee-buckling stupidity behind that story are the endless number of morons who still think Beck is an American patriot. 

I commend you and your family for your hard work.   

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:15 | 723861 PeterSchump
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Red Neck,


You are a fucking retard.  Go away.  You are bringing us all down.  I feel dirty and wasteful just writing this, but someone must.  A total waste of 15 seconds just because you exist.  Add up all the seconds people waste interacting with you and we have found the real reason the U.S. can't compete.  It is all due to your incredible stupidity and diversions from worthwhile activity.

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 01:38 | 724293 Midas
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Should we start a drinking game every time Red Neck repugnicant mentions Glenn Beck for no reason?  I mean how did you get from chinese building to Glenn Beck?    If you guys want to start a game let me know.  I will, however, need to stock up first.

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 12:04 | 724715 Red Neck Repugnicant
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I didn't junk you.  I don't junk anyone, ever.


Sat, 11/13/2010 - 06:07 | 724413 Midas
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Hey Red neck-  Instead of flagging me, why don't you answer the question.  How did you get from a chinese building to Glenn Beck?

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 08:39 | 724544 SheHunter
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Crap.  Here I am defending a complete stranger but back off redneck you guys.  He's allowed to state his case without being pegged for delete.  Or is it Beck you really are which case you are beyond hope. 

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 09:51 | 724605 Jeff Lebowski
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Add the word "relevant" into your sentence, and I'll agree with you..  

He's allowed to state his relevant case....

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 15:42 | 725080 Midas
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I don't think I defended Glenn Beck.  I don't listen to his show, so I don't care for RNR hijacking threads to talk about Faux news (This is not an isolated incident).   Maybe Tyler could create a new thread for him everyday and people could go have the Great Glenn Beck debate.  People would come from miles around, just not me.

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 10:28 | 724630 Byte Me
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Interesting viewpoint: - unions run the Fed by extention according to this batshit analysis.

What you smokin' bub?


I don't think so Red Ring Repellant. The real reason USA is in the hole is because of visceral corruption and looting by a financial system gone rogue, coupled with endemic corruption and lawlessness throughout the establishment.

Against that backdrop, unions (who are less than blameless) are very small beer in the blame game.


Sat, 11/13/2010 - 11:00 | 724649 FatFingered
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Remarkable video.  Propaganda indeed.

At least it is far more interesting propaganda than the American dog and pony/Beck and Olbermann shows on American TV.

Sun, 11/14/2010 - 08:38 | 725897 Widowmaker
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"American workers:  The real reason America is in the ditch."

Exactly right.  Very few under 30 can even show up on any sort of regular schedule.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:14 | 723130 Spalding_Smailes
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Its a shit hole ...

About one third of the industrial waste water and more than 90 percent of household sewage in China is released into rivers and lakes without being treated. Nearly 80 percent of China's cities (278 of them) have no sewage treatment facilities and few have plans to build any and underground water supplies in 90 percent of the cites are contaminated.

Water shortages and water pollution in China are such a problem that the World Bank warns of “catastrophic consequences for future generations.” Half of China’s population lacks safe drinking water. Nearly two thirds of China’s rural population—more than 500 million people—use water contaminated by human and industrial waste.

By one estimate one sixth of China’s population is threatened by seriously polluted water. One study found that eight of 10 Chinese coastal cities discharge excessive amounts of sewage and pollutants into the sea, often near coastal resorts and sea farming areas. Most of China’s rural areas have no system in place to treat waste water.

Water pollution—caused primarily by industrial waste, chemical fertilizers and raw sewage— accounts for half of the $69 billion that the Chinese economy loses to pollution every year. About 11.7 million pounds of organic pollutants are emitted into Chinese waters very day, compared to 5.5 in the United States, 3.4 in Japan, 2.3 in Germany, 3.2 in India, and 0.6 in South Africa.

Water consumed by people in China contains dangerous levels of arsenic, fluorine and sulfates. An estimated 980 million of China’s 1.3 billion people drink water every day that is partly polluted. More than 600 million Chinese drink water contaminated with human or animal wastes and 20 million people drink well water contaminated with high levels of radiation. A large number of arsenic-tainted water have been discovered. China’s high rates of liver, stomach and esophageal cancer have been linked to water pollution.

In many cases factories fouling critical water sources are making goods consumed by people in the U.S. and Europe. Problems created by China’s water pollution are not just confined to China either. Water pollution and garbage produced in China floats down its rivers to the sea and is carried by prevailing winds and currents to Japan and South Korea.

Water pollution and shortages are a more serious problem in northern China than southern China. The percentage of water considered unfit for human consumption is 45 percent in northern China, compared to 10 percent in southern China. Some 80 percent of the rivers in the northern province of Shanxi have been rated “unfit for human contact.”

A poll conducted by the Pew Research Center before the 2008 Olympics found that 68 percent of the Chinese interviewed said they were concerned about water pollution.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:19 | 723149 thefatasswilly
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Thank you for copying and pasting a shitload of irrelevant, useless information that can be summed up with a concept that just about everyone reading this website understands: "China doesn't give a shit about the environment, and thus pollutes a lot."

My original point was that Americans love to prove the superiority of their own piece of shit country by pointing out the deficiencies of other countries.

This sort of behavior is unbecoming of the greatest nation in the world, and proves that America has indeed fallen far.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:21 | 723157 Spalding_Smailes
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My my my my  pa pa pa ...ppppppoint beeeeeeing Bla,Bla,Bla........Fuck U


China blowwwwwwwws , next.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:25 | 723173 Boilermaker
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You have obviously never been there in the person.  It is a festering toilet, literally.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:37 | 723391 Village Idiot
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If you doubt what's being said, read Over Poplation In China by Wee Fukum Yung.  It's all there.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 18:02 | 723466 Bananamerican
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After i'm done with "The China Challenge" by Wang Hung Lo

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 19:02 | 723616 Lndmvr
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Crap on the wall by who flung poo.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:05 | 723840 Village Idiot
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that book stunk

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:16 | 723864 kathy.chamberli...'s picture

i junked you, just sayin†

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:46 | 723931 Village Idiot
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I agree, it was a shitty book.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:12 | 723326 ElvisDog
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My grandmother in-law just got back from 3 weeks China. They were told to brush their teeth with bottled water and to be careful when showering not to ingest any water.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:51 | 723438 Spalding_Smailes
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They have toothpaste ?

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 18:14 | 723494 gmrpeabody
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They have teeth?

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 18:17 | 723503 kathy.chamberli...'s picture

we know they got, Chins.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:58 | 723819 Clayton Bigsby
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ha!  nicely played

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 23:43 | 724168 macroeconomist
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Its not even funny as a joke..

By the way, those pollution pics just look like late1800s-early1900s U.K or U.S. So chill out, you polluted your share, now its somebody else's turn..

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 15:41 | 725079 MayIMommaDogFac...
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look like late1800s-early1900s U.K or U.S.

you polluted your share

Who are you speaking to?  100+ year old vampires?

Macroeconomist?  Really?

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:37 | 723787 shortus cynicus
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newest trend must be implanting gold-teeth

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 23:15 | 724122 dogbreath
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they never told me that when I was there for 10 weeks.  I can testify that the rivers looked sick and the smell in the evening of the river running thru Chung du was awful.  But with 1.4 billion people palying catch up what do you expect..........switzerland

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 06:11 | 724414 Arkadaba
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like Mexico! Point ?

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 18:19 | 723508 azengrcat
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The state sponsored tour was pretty fun actually!  Just make sure you bring some Oxypads to clean the soot off your face every 4 hours.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 23:10 | 724109 Cathartes Aura
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while I have few doubts those in charge of the china-nation-state entered in the world competition to the bottom care about "their" humans or environment, anyone who was a child in the 70's El Lay "basin" will no doubt recall "third stage smog alerts" that confined children to classrooms in lieu of recess/PE. . . I can remember the burning eyes after a freeway drive, the airborne dark particles collected on skin and clothing. . . and looking down the street at trees that were differing shades of grey dependant on distance.

it is the way of gov't. to allow corporations free reign until the suffering populations gain some voice/rights. . . or just continue until everything's so fucked no one's left to care.

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 00:27 | 724228 i-dog
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"gov't. to allow corporations free reign "

Sorry to correct you CA, but governments don't "allow" free reign, they are "bribed" to not prosecute. Before the massive expansion of the state apparatus of the 19th Century, it was possible for private citizens to sue polluters for the damage caused. Now it is left to the EPA ... and they don't.

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 03:11 | 724362 Cathartes Aura
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not exactly sure where you quibble with "allow" & "bribed" being vastly different, seems more a toe-may-toe/toe-mah-toe thing to me. . . if government is bribed not to prosecute, then are they not allowing the action to continue?

but whatever, the verbiage can shift, the shit stays the same. . .

earlier this year the president appointed Michael Taylor "deputy commissioner for foods" - a couple of decades earlier he'd been a staff attorney at the FDA, then moved to a firm representing Monsanto, then back to the FDA, whereupon

the FDA approved Monsanto's bovine growth hormone, and Taylor was partly responsible for a controversial policy that said milk from BGH-treated cows did not have to be labeled as such.

no doubt he or someone like him also pushed for not labeling GMO-foods in the marketplace, and about 75% of food in american grocery stores now contains GMO ingredients. . . revolving door corporate/government job-swapping is nothing new of course, and I'm sure he'll do his part to make the codex alimentarius standard practice within the coming months, just like many other nationstates have so far.

and we all know, that's just one example of many.

good article on the ubiquity of GMO food, should anyone be interested:

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 09:14 | 724576 i-dog
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I generally agree with all your valuable posts, CA. I was merely pointing out that the very fact of having a government introduces a well-armed middle man -- who is open to the highest bidder to upset the normal functions of a free market between private citizens. Without government, local citizens would not allow the pollution and they would sue for any common law damages caused to them personally.

So it is not just an innocuous or inadvertent "allowing", it is a very sinister "bribery" situation involving an armed criminal gang. My point was: Let's call a spade a spade.

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 00:34 | 724240 Oh regional Indian
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Hmmmmmm...... I can feel all that, every time I venture out of my house here in Bang-bang-Bangalore. Layer of grime. 

Funny, strange and sad to see though, that most of the commentary is "China Hating". Using words like Chink this and derogatory that, sounds like people here have bought the line that China is the enemy.

Just like their Grampa and Grandma bought the fact that the USSR was the enemy and then the VietCong was the enemy and Koreans were the enemy, till finally the whol eworld is the enemy.

C'mon folks. shake up, wake up. Nation-states came about as convenient agglomerations of power, easier to control. Take India, a 1000 princely states vs. one giant, staggering mis-fit, that is India today. Or the European Superstate.

Now the American superstate looms.

Bigger is better, survival of the fittest, us vs. them.

Feels like a minority of a few in a "Hog Containment Operation"  on this thread.

Surely a sign of things to come.


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:49 | 723257 downrodeo
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I have to agree with your notion that nationalism is bullshit. Although, I don't want Von Rompuy's will to be done either.


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:36 | 723384 M.B. Drapier
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Although, I don't want Von Rompuy's will to be done either.

What! You would defy the will of the Holy Roman Emperor?

But wait, that's this? So does everyone else, including his electors? Oh, never mind then.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 18:32 | 723487 Bananamerican
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Nationalism is Bullshit? Why?

Unless we all adopt the same ontology, political system and skin color overnight the only way to ONE world is thru continents of blood.

A single global Corporate State is most likely to occur if any global entity ever arised... but it won't....That's a pipe/wet Dream of the oligarchs....I certainly wouldn't want to live under it..."Globalization" (Global Feudalism)has been the next best thing...a kind of global "Federalism"....It sucks.

I personally think "Nations" help break the human race into more manageable chunks...makes the pool of social ideas more diverse, allows specialization (the "fish" people" the "chip" people, The "oil" people, the "tree" people etc).

Besides, the will and ability of peoples to keep tabs on their "leaders" becomes more diffuse as the citizen unit shrinks in relative size to the Entity and most cultures postulate an "end times" that involves a One world precondition because they instinctively realize it to be the fulfillment of Orwell's "boot stamping on the human face— forever."

"let a 1000 flowers bloom"-Wang Hung Lo

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 19:39 | 723679 kaiserhoff
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Only small countries are both tolerant and free.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:26 | 723759 Troublehoff
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yep - a country of population 1

i could see how that could work - but then what about inner turmoil?

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:09 | 723769 Bananamerican
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Well then you can "go fuck yourself"....less collateral damage that way

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 15:53 | 725096 MayIMommaDogFac...
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but then what about inner turmoil?

Self-immolation is always an option.  But there is the carbon 'footprint' to consider. I mean, that's like a 100kg of semi-organic meat just up in smoke... 


Sat, 11/13/2010 - 03:13 | 724367 Mr Vepr Vyatskie
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Your brain seems to be in perma-hyper-doublethink.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:10 | 723319 kathy.chamberli...'s picture

i was there during the building boom leading up to the olympics. what a mess everywhere.

this is nothing more than a propaganda piece, to show the world they are constructing a hotel that probably isn't needed at all.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:28 | 723763 snowball777
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Perhaps they're trying to point out the 'magic' behind China's growth and productivity...if you can save money by dumping toxic sludge out the back door, it makes it hard for those who can't (legally) to compete.

And, no, I'm not advocating that the US follow them into the (poisoned) gutter.

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 01:01 | 724263 Oh regional Indian
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Smowball. America IS already in the poisoned gutter.

Only, US style, it's all hidden.

Chemtrails? Nah! PCB's? Harmless. Fluoride in your water? It's good for you, toothless eater! Depleted Uranium...well, don't you see? It's Depleted for god's sake.

Like that. On and on. Olean? Of Course! Aspartame? Chug it baby! Partially Hydrogenated oil? It's partially hydrogenated, can't you see? All good. Supersize that non-molding burger please? Yup, One Supermassive, Slurpee too!

Head out of sand, Ostrich!


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:07 | 723843 quasimodo
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Nothing irrelevant about it dicksmack

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:37 | 723897 Nostradumbass
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Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:39 | 723917 Mark Noonan
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The real point is that they can build a hotel in 6 days, but can't provide clean drinking water.  There is no point to the hotel if you can't get clean water.

Half of China's population lives in abysmal poverty while their bubble economy puts up buildings no one needs...its a Potemkin Economy and it will collapse.

As for us - we've already collapsed, but as we are Americans - and thus better than everyone else, by far - we'll make it all better and still be on top a century from now when pundits are saying we'd better watch out because those Bangladeshis are out-competing us thanks to their Brand New Economic Model What's Better Than Dumb America.

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 09:02 | 724573 SheHunter
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I disagree.  We have NOT yet collapsed.  Spending too much time with the ZH et al blogs will make you believe we are beyond hope just as living on bear blogs will make you short yourself into oblivion.  When you are out and looking around what do you still see?  People working, people spending, people who are fed and clothed and primarily free of disease.  While we certainly are whittling away at our foundation and do risk collapse- it is far from too late to rebuild/repair our base.  Volunteer, help a neighbor, join big sisters big brothers help that old oriental guy on the interstate change his tire.  We are survivors.  It'll take more than Wall Street thugs in our politician's pockets to bring us down.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 18:12 | 723478 Green Leader
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Thanks for the valuable information.

I am a water quality hydrologist. Good water is so important!

China's health is really going down and their population will not be able to handle well race-specific bioweapons. The post WWIII world will be daunting.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 18:25 | 723532 spinone
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Don't worry, they're fixing all that by next Tuesday.  You'll see the timelapse videoon Youtube on Wednesday.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:58 | 723818 sgt_doom
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Thank you, Spalding_Smailes, for posting fact.

I have had far too many idiotic conversations with Chinese engineers who couldn't hope to find their own vaginas.

When speaking of architecture, they claim we build house to solidly in America, and suggest they could be built as rickety as they earthquake-traps they normally build there.

And the conversations usually go downhill from that point.

Well, hopefully, at least with this building they are beginning to build earthquake-proof structures.


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:28 | 723876 Money Squid
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The US used to be exactly like China. Dumping waste from mines and chemical factories directly in to the water of this country polluting everything in site. Rivers in the Eastern US used to spontaneously catch fire because of high concentration of chemicals. Essentially all of the groudnwater aquifers in the US have been contaminated with industrial and agricultural chemicals. Love Cannal, rivers catching on fire, children born with terrible birth defects is the reason Nixon (a Republican I might add) signed into law the legislation that created the US Environmental Protection Agency. The US paid a high price for the massive industrial complex, which helped make the US a superpower. China is now attempting the same feat but has seriously damaged its own natural resources, polluted its environment and contaminated its people. If you have never investigated the extent of contamination from a large facility, and seen the hundreds of thousands of people have been drinking contamianted water, breather contaminated air, and have been polluted to their very core, you will not understand just how important it is not to be like China, with no environmental regulations. The Chinese people will one day wake up and realize they have been poisoned and that their dreams of a better life for their children have been contaminated by their greed and drive to succeed at all cost.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 23:20 | 724130 Cathartes Aura
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thank you.

and of course, there are all the amrkn corporations worldwide who pollute the environments while extracting "resources" in nations bribed to look the other way when left with the toxic waste dumped. . .

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 22:28 | 724029 szjon
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This in defence of a country that is currently trying to fight back a rising tide of pig feaces by vaporising it into the AIR!


Glass houses - stones.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 22:56 | 724086 nedwardkelly
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About 11.7 million pounds of organic pollutants are emitted into Chinese waters very day, compared to 5.5 in the United States

So what you're saying is, per capita they're doing a much better job than the US is?

The thing that little stat proves is that China still has a whole lot of fucking the planet up their sleeve if they really want to work for it.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:16 | 723140 whatsinaname
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But.. but.. we will have a DREAMliner ready soon wont we Daddy ?

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:47 | 723248 Boilermaker
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No, we opted to fly on the AirBus 380 with optional exploding engines.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:47 | 723425 tmosley
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The explosions make it go faster.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:33 | 723773 snowball777
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At least until it reaches terminal velocity.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:48 | 723252 hbjork1
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Central planning, prefab and a selected workforce= shell up.  Quality of interior, elevators, plumbing, amenities very likely to be finished later (much later?).


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 18:23 | 723524 carbonmutant
Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:17 | 723744 kinetik
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Hilarious, look at the piles.  Aren't they supposed to fill hollow piles after they've been driven?

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:44 | 723796 shortus cynicus
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Really stunning. On the other way I must admit it has fallen without falling apart. So it was  build well above a ground, but some fat finger made wrong basement drawings.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 22:34 | 724042 kinetik
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Found this on some website:  "According to the Chinese Press, the fall was caused by a late change to the design — a garage was being excavated on the south side of the building; the excavated material was piled on the north side. When it rained the extra lateral pressure (maybe 3000 tonnes) was over the design load of the pilings, which snapped."

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 22:20 | 724017 Anal Picnic
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Chinese dry wall. POS.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 22:31 | 724034 caconhma
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American Empire is about to fall.

The Soviet empire collapsed just 20 years ago. Looks like nobody learned anything. Socialism combined with a central planning system and "a human face" does not work.

A long time ago, I came to America from the Soviet Union. Back there, people believed that USSR will last forever. But an empire built on lies and demagoguery could not last for ever. It was not America or Ronald Reagan who destroyed USSR. It was corruption at all levels of government and society that killed them.

Now, I am seeing in America all the same ills that killed USSR. It is a very sad story. Unfortunately, I do not see anything to reverse an American march to an abyss and civil unrest.

My first boss in America was a Chinese man. He was an immigrant from Taiwan with a PhD from MIT. He told me that he did not like hire Americans since they are too lazy. He was very fare and very good. For the last 30 years in America, I worked with many Americans and he was one of the best. Trust me Chinese have very capable people. Do not underestimate them. They are on a move.

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 05:50 | 724406 fiftybagger
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Sat, 11/13/2010 - 10:00 | 724613 Imminent Crucible
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Completed in six days?  I don't think so. In the last daylight sequence they're still putting the exterior facade panels on.

They assembled a 15-storey shell in six days, not a completed hotel.  Still, a nice trick--but nothing like what's implied: wiring, plumbing, HVAC, all the interior appointments and fixtures, trim, wallpaper, drop ceilings, carpet, etc.

Heck, I've pulled more than a mile of cable in a single residence.  That box would have many miles of fiber lines and security wiring, etc.

Also, there's something odd about the last 20 seconds or so. The sky is changing, the sun arcing overhead, clouds zipping past--but no apparent change in the shadows and lighting on the building itself.  Doesn't look real.

Hey, far be it from me to suggest that the Chinese might doctor a propaganda stunt a little, but....

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 19:01 | 723613 strannick
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Fri, 11/12/2010 - 19:06 | 723625 Oligarchs Gone Wild
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Don't forget the Chinese empty city of Ordos, where all the real estate is sold, but nobody has moved in.  Video from about a year ago, watch from 1:13 on.  Wonder how it's doing today.


Sat, 11/13/2010 - 16:11 | 725119 MayIMommaDogFac...
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If you don't look directly at it -- you know, look sort of out of the corners of your eyes -- and DON'T BLINK, then you can see the people of Ordos...

Sort of.  </sarcasm>

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:57 | 723816 Clayton Bigsby
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1 question - 1 comment - how long till the fucking thing falls over?   aaand, too bad there are no guests to stay in it

kinda reminds me of the saying (what was that movie?) "What's your dirt doing in my hole?"

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 01:16 | 724279 Pez
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See, that means they can re-use the concrete that hasn't set yet!

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 13:03 | 724792 Unlawful Justice
Sun, 11/14/2010 - 10:20 | 725957 Moby
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Communism never changes ... this is nothing more than a modern "green" version of the old Soviet era apartment block (ref. image link).


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 15:54 | 723028 superman07
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look at the blue sky in the end, this is obviously a "prepared" video full of much deception.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:01 | 723069 dogbreath
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obviously,  really? 


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:06 | 723094 Boilermaker
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I've been to China many times and don't remember even seeing a sky yet alone a blue one.  Of course, my eyes were burning and tearing like hell from the deisel fumes know.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:40 | 723401 Anarchist
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I too have been to China numerous times. I have seen perfectly clear blue sky the majority of times in the south and most the days I have spent in Beijing.

I guess you never make it to some of the $hitholes we have in this country. Why don't you explain the off the hook cancer and retardation rates we have in this perfect country?

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:58 | 723457 Boilermaker
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Aw, shucks, you got me.  China isn't a polluted shit hole.  Now, if you could just convince every single fucking authority on the matter that seems to 'think so' also.

Good luck with all that.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:04 | 723725 Captain Courageous
Captain Courageous's picture you wear a ski mask while you type?


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:57 | 723975 Anarchist
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So your name is Pussy?

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 21:00 | 723823 sgt_doom
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That was the ceiling of the brothel you were staring at, nimrod....

Sun, 11/14/2010 - 12:55 | 726096 Green Leader
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"Why don't you explain the off the hook cancer and retardation rates we have in this perfect country?"


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 19:42 | 723685 dogbreath
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Beijing in the late august and september gets stunning blue skys when the air flow shifts to  a north west flow.  Summer is 40c and hummidity vapor to 35000 ft. 

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 22:15 | 724013 Anarchist
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Just got back from Beijing where I worked a trade show. It was smoggy the first day and then it rained. It was then gorgeous the next 10 days, not a cloud in the sky. My multiple trips to north, south and east China have generally been smog free. I never stay long enough to know the general smog conditions. Does not seem to be much worse than some Japanese cities when I used to work there.

The dip$hits who constantly rag on China and the Chinese haven't a clue. They think the US is 1000x better than China. The US has huge pollution and tainted food problems too but they are hidden well by the government and big business. This country needs big enema to cleanse itself of the crooks, morons and sheep that infest this country.

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 03:32 | 724379 Mr Vepr Vyatskie
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Shit, who would be left?

A few Amish people, one congressman;), a bunch of gun owners, and Mr. T?

Fuck yeah, and these are the same people I plan to contact in the case of a zombie virus outbreak.

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 05:59 | 724411 fiftybagger
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Sat, 11/13/2010 - 06:19 | 724417 Arkadaba
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+ 1

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 12:56 | 724785 carbon
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zerohedge is the best site there is

It is a slow day in a small Florida town and streets are deserted. Times are tough, 

everybody is in debt, and everybody is living on credit


A rich tourist drives through town, stops at the motel, 

and lays a $100 bill on the desk saying he wants to 

inspect the rooms upstairs to pick one for the night.

As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs 

the bill and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.

The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to 

retire his debt to the pig farmer.

The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay 

his bill to his supplier, .the Farmer's Co-op

The guy at the Farmer's Co-op takes the $100 and runs 

to pay his debt to the local prostitute, who has also been 

facing hard times and has had to offer her "services" on credit.

The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays 

off her room bill with the hotel owner.

The hotel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter 

so the rich traveler will not suspect anything.

At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, 

states that the rooms are not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves town.

No one produced anything. No one earned anything

However, the whole town is now out of debt and 

now looks to the future with a lot more optimism.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the 

United States Government is conducting business today 


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 18:14 | 723495 Green Leader
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I saw the chemtrails.

This is world wide.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 23:38 | 724159 Cathartes Aura
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dejunked.  I noticed them too.

really people, a lot of this is already search-able on the internet, should you care to add to your knowledge.

Chinese meteorologists say they brought about Beijing's earliest snowfall in a decade, after seeding rain clouds with silver iodide to ease a drought.

The Weather Modification Office sprayed clouds with 186 doses of the chemical to bring rain for the wheat crop, the Beijing Evening News said.

and more, of course.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 15:54 | 723029 DavidPierre
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How to take a 47 story building down in 8 seconds...

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:06 | 723097 Cognitive Dissonance
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That just goes to prove that New York City fires burn hotter. Much hotter than nature can ever achieve anywhere else. And New York City fires destroy all structural support elements at exactly the same instant, thus completely collapsing and putting itself out in 8 to 10 seconds. Except for the 1500 degree fires in the basement that last for weeks afterwards.

The Big Apple. A great place to have a fire.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:18 | 723144 Rick Masters
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This is excactly right CD. It's the same as in "My Cousin Vinny" where Joe Pesci points out that that one guy's grits cook faster then other people's cause his kitchen is imprevious to the laws of Physics!

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:19 | 723153 DavidPierre
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WTC 7 - Penthouse Collapse Missing

Between 0:34 and 0:35, the collapse of the east penthouse has been cut from this footage.


Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:19 | 723155 BobPaulson
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It would be an excellent place to build a foundry since you can achieve adaiabatic flame temperatures above the melting point of concrete or steel even with non stoichiometric combustion of jet fuel in a non refractory lined space radiating to surroundings at 300K. Not only that, this has been investigated and proven true by the top scientists in the country who are experts in combustion so you don't need any discussion of this in peer reviewed scientific literature.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:26 | 723178 hedgeless_horseman
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Hot enough to melt all that gold into CO2 and water, dirt, something other than the element Au.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 16:59 | 723283 BobPaulson
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Just need some fissile gold and enough neutron flux and you can turn gold into straw!

I think I was junked for my lack of knowledge in thermodynamics and chemistry. Time to go back and get another Ph.D. I guess.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 17:54 | 723447 TBT or not TBT
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Well, you did introduce the red herring question of what is the melting point of steel...and then on on top of that the melting point of concrete...a substance that doesn't melt so much as chemically decompose under sufficiently high heat.   But I digress on the matter of concrete.   My main beef is the the mention of the melting point of steel, which is irrelevant.   The question of interest concern measures of the strength of structural steel versus temperature, not the red herring question of what temperature steel melts at...because a steel building collapse would occur long before the load bearing steel could reach the temperature  at which said steel melts.

So, long story short, if you have a PhD in thermo and so forth, why is the red herring questiobn of the melting point of steel (or concrete for fffs sake) flapping around there in the middle of your otherwise erudite sounding post?

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 18:31 | 723544 Jean Valjean
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Because he's nuts, just like CD?

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:02 | 723721 Cognitive Dissonance
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Specifically I'm cashews.

Fri, 11/12/2010 - 20:35 | 723780 defender
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hmmmm, where did I put that chocolate?

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 01:39 | 724294 FreakuentFlyer
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Sounds like a Facebook status to me. Are you single?

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Sat, 11/13/2010 - 10:47 | 724643 BobPaulson
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Look at a graph of the Youngs Modulus of steel vs. temp or the UTS vs. temp. (but not to try to add seriousness to the surreal and farcical "scientific explanation" of a building structure simultaneously failing uniformly on every floor because of a fire). 


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