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Sugar High Ending? Retail Sales Tumble 1.2%, Down 1.1% Ex Autos,

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The retail sales sugar high is now over with disappointment across the board. Advance retail sales come in at -1.2%, compared to consensus of 0.2%. Previous 0.4% reading revised to 0.6%. Ex-autos down to -1.1%, versus expectation of 0.1%. Ex-auto and gas -0.8% versus estimate of 0.3%.

From the Census:

The U.S. Census Bureau announced today that advance estimates of U.S. retail and food services sales for May, adjusted for seasonal variation and holiday and trading-day differences, but not for price changes, were $362.5 billion, a decrease of 1.2 percent (±0.5%) from the previous month, but 6.9 percent (±0.7%) above May 2009. Total sales for the March through May 2010 period were up 8.1 percent (±0.3%) from the same period a year ago. The March to April 2010 percent change was revised from +0.4 percent (±0.5%)* to +0.6 percent (±0.4%).

Retail trade sales were down 1.4 percent (±0.5%) from April 2010, but 7.4 percent (±0.7%) above last year. Gasoline stations sales were up 20.2 percent (±1.8%) from May 2009 and nonstore retailers sales were up 15.6 percent (±1.8%) from last year. The advance estimates are based on a subsample of the Census Bureau’s full retail and food services sample. A stratified random sampling method is used to select approximately 5,000 retail and food services firms whose sales are then weighted and benchmarked to represent the complete universe of over three million retail and food services firms. Responding firms  account for approximately 65% of the MARTS dollar volume estimate. For an explanation of the measures of sampling variability included in this report, please see the Reliability of Estimates section on the last page of this publication.

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Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:48 | 407885 firstdivision
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CB/CH is going to start drating QE2 now.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:55 | 407903 Won_Over
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Especially when Bernanke says this on WSJ : Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke says he’s a bit puzzled by surging gold prices.“I don’t fully understand movements in the gold price,” Mr. Bernanke admitted. But he suggested it might be another example of investors fleeing risky assets and flocking to assets that are perceived as less risky, not only Treasury bonds, but also ones like gold."

 

Now is this a scenario when the fox is asked why the hens are terrified......

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:18 | 407905 whatsinaname
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QE2 has already begun - the Coast Guard was given a blanket spending check by Congress (410-0 vote) yesterday.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:49 | 407886 Cursive
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Whocoodanode!

Signed,

Benron

 

 

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:48 | 407887 yabs
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should be good for another 10 pts on the S and P then

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:48 | 407888 billwilson
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Retail sales actually down 1.6% when compared to the intially reported April numbers, not that anyone wants to look at the real numbers.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:10 | 407925 Cognitive Dissonance
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Real numbers and the Ponzi is similar to silver bullets and vampires.

Not good.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:16 | 407940 Jeff Lebowski
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I'll give you a pass, you are truly a contributor here at ZH, but me thinks you meant to say either wooden stakes and vampires, or silver bullets and werewolves. :)

 

 

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:21 | 407946 Cognitive Dissonance
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So that's why the silver bullet didn't kill me. That's what I get when I start juggling bowling balls. :>)

BTW CNBC at 9:15 AM is spinning this retail report as a one month aberration by way of a talking head task force of three people with consensus views. Surprise.

BTW2, Chapter 4 will be posted in a few hours. Thanks for your support.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:33 | 407977 Won_Over
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What is CNBC, it still exists???

 

You probably watch it so you can laugh at their ignorance or straight-face lies... I wonder if they really believe what they say, I really think they do, as if they didn't then they would be just to good to say something with such as passion and never slipping up...

They will do till they get fired, not becasue CNBC is letting them go, but because CNBC won't exist anymore. I now have 1.5 - 2 year timeframe on them, unless they are one of the TARP, QE, QE2, QE28 or QE56, so that the administration (any) can just use them for their version of the story... Then the timeframe is about the same with the first failed auction....

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 14:13 | 408042 Cognitive Dissonance
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I watch it because, like it or hate it, I'm in the business. So I need to know what others are seeing real time on CNBC. The fact is that CNBC is being displayed on all trading desks, usually with volume off. So I would be at a disadvantage not knowing what "they" know if I didn't have it running (volume off) on my desk top.

But I understand exactly what you're saying. The spin has gone off the disgraceful meter. CNBC puts the old 60's-70's Pravda to shame with their bald faced boob laced propaganda.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 12:29 | 408321 Problem Is
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"What is CNBC, it still exists???"

Ratings Counting Captive Viewers
I walked into a TBTF bank with a friend in a state capital city that shall remain nameless...

While standing in the slow line due to the poor service since the bank is TBTF...

Teevee monitors above the inefficient tellers were playing mind numbing CNBC idiocy while the sheeple waited in line.

I am sure each one of us was counted as "viewers" for "ratings" purposes as a deal between CNBC and TBTF...

What an UNHOLY alliance...

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:43 | 407989 Dapper Dan
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We eagerly await, thank you C/D.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:49 | 407890 voltaic
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With millions of unemployed losing all benefits, or knowing they will lose benefits shortly it's not that surprising that retail sales are down. 

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:15 | 407938 Cursive
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@voltaic

+1.  If we had a real media, they'd be investigating the circumstances of the people rolling off of the extended unemployment benefits.  As it is, yesterday we were treated to stories that the economy could be improving because these people "might" be finding work.  Was Isvesta this bad?

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:48 | 407995 papaswamp
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They are rolling over to Food Stamps (SNAP), which crossed the 40 million mark (March latest numbers out). I wouldn't be surprised to see April's numbers at 40.5 million...the number projected for Sept 2010.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:50 | 407891 chinaguy
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Yeah, knocked the stuffings out of the Futures

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:50 | 407893 Rick64
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If BB doesn't understand the rise in Gold then he probably doesn't understand this either.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:09 | 407915 John McCloy
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Oh Ben undestands. " Oh Ben talk Thai..Ben talk Thai real good" Ben and the 4 Bankerteers also understand the money printing eventually would no longer outrun the money sucked out of annuities, spending, mortgage/credit card payments and whatever is left in stocks if the recovery never showed and here we are in June 2010. Time to take the recovery off the milkcarton because it is In a ditch somewhere. Earnings estimates have to come down.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 12:05 | 408296 Rick64
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" Oh Ben talk Thai..Ben talk Thai real good"

LOL. Of course he understands both, but feigns ignorance very well.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:53 | 407894 poorold
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Why do you think they gunned the S&P yesterday?

Now it can drop 300 points and, from the market's perspective, nothing has changed.

They talked about how all the wealth that was created in Q1 was from equities, but that is a fallacy.  Marginal pricing of equities does not creat WEALTH.

Just like marginal pricing of housing did not create wealth.

Wait till the run on equities really starts in earnest. It will when people realize their stocks are no where near equal to the "dollar" value on their monthly statements.

It's a figment of everyone's imagination.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:53 | 407896 docj
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+1

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:55 | 407901 Temporalist
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Too many people prefer imagination land to reality.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:44 | 408116 A_MacLaren
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Retail sales - the cummulative actions of hundreds of millions of individuals vs. a survey of 500 households (consumer sentiment):

 

Market says who to we want to believe?  Consumer Sentiment

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:04 | 407908 Rider
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+1

I will laugh at all morons that say equity markets create VALUE, I mean yes, just as casino does.

And the most PATHETIC lame-ass spectacle is the upstanding ovation or cheering once the markets close higher or reach a cetain level, clapping at the market is for imbeciles. Like lame fraternity kiddos cheering after downing a beer.  

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:08 | 407921 Implicit simplicit
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Create value by shorting the ramps;o}

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:27 | 407958 Rider
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+1 yeah, thats the game, short all the way down to S&P 500 in 2011 then a rally and S&P 300 to 2014-16.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 12:33 | 408368 Cpl Hicks
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I never understood that either...strange, unless they're just happy to be getting out to the nearest pub to get hammered.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:08 | 407920 LoneStarHog
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WHAT? Are you telling me that the wonderful men and women in our military fighting for "democracy and free-markets" are receiving NEITHER here in their home country?

I am SHOCKED...SHOCKED!

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:08 | 407923 Insert witty title
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I just fell in love with you a little bit.

Bernanke, god i nearly ate my fist listening to that bare faced lying shit yesterday. This number was always going to suck.

I don't know whether to be excited that I am alive, at 30 years old, in this time of history, or be absolutely fucking terrified about what is likely to be a shitstorm to make the 30's and 40's look like a walk in the park.

To any other gen x's or y's or whatever the fucking media chooses to label those born 1970-1980 - how often do you talk to your mates and think

'what gives you the idea that we have defeated history and are immune from events such as the cultural revolution, the great depression, the french revolution, WW1 or 2, the dark ages or any other expression of human history?'

 

At least we have the world cup, extend and pretend bitches.

 

 

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:51 | 407997 mnevins2
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"I don't know whether to be excited that I am alive, at 30 years old, in this time of history, or be absolutely fucking terrified about what is likely to be a shitstorm to make the 30's and 40's look like a walk in the park."

I'm 50, two kids (19 and 16), and a wife who is 45. "Finance" is one of my main passions and where I make my money (mortgages), but my MAIN "passion" is History and this period has me both excited and petrified. How am I "coping?" At worst, just like the frog in the slowly boiling pot.

I'm guessing that I'm not alone.

BTW, my parents, born in 1920 and 1921, met in HS and both are now resting peacefully. When I consider their experiences for the first 25 years of life AND that I'm just about to send a Care package to a Marine in Afghanistan.......I have perspective, too!

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:06 | 408022 Insert witty title
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For whatever reason, i give a lot of thought to what i would like for my future kids, if i'm lucky enough to have any (otherwise whats the point right? i imagine myself as just a super complex suit of armor for my DNA that has attained self awareness, kinda like the terminator movies but carbon rather than silicon based... anyway...)

soooo, if i had two kids that age, i would say go into a trade such as mechanic work, carpentry, or if they are REALLY gifted engineering of some kind. but in general extending the hoop jumping government high school scheme of poodle training another 3 years and paying for the privilege is not worth it.

Learn to do something real. The carb either works or it doesn't, the table is either level or it isn't. Encourage engagement with the physical world. For a good book try that 'why working with your hands is good for or why office work is bad for you' or whatever its called.

Think for yourself, dont' join the dog and pony show that is corporate america/britain/australia. Do NOT get a credit card. Learn to earn what you have, and respect what you have. Learn where things come from, and if you choose to abuse the system, at least understand it.

oh yeah, and learn to surf, play the guitar and play as much rugby as possible - smashing people on their ass is only second in terms of fun to getting smashed and standing back up. golf can wait.

best of luck sir

 

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:26 | 408063 SteveNYC
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I'm with you, capping myself and wife to one kid. That's it. She wants more, I'll have a vasectomy same day she asks.

99% of our generation is, unfortunately, not self-aware. They do not even have a clue about the world they are living in. They have I-pods stuffed in their ears, their eyes glued to the I-phone or TV. We are effectively "machines" until we realize this, look inside, and choose to be consciously aware of what we do, how we effect others etc.

I choose no television. I choose no I-pod/I-phone. I choose no main-stream media. I choose to educate myself, to study history, to study the wisdom of Buddha, to understand the nature of all things (emptyness), to meditate, to feel my emotions, to watch my thoughts. I choose to be aware.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:40 | 408104 Insert witty title
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haha totally. 30 minute tube ride home - what is it in New York? Metro? Most people need the constant ADD media input from iphones, whatever, anything to distract their crack addict brains from thinking. Then those who like to think that they 'care and are nice people' jump on whatever the liberal press tells them. More band aids for an actual thought process.

I should know i used to be one of them.

Worked at JPM from age of 20. Fresh out of uni. Blah blah blah, credit crunch came - i had a bet with my mate that (and I quote myself, so embarassed) 'we have Hank in the treasury and Bernanke has studied the great depression, we'll be fine, short lived minor recession at worst' - again see, a bandaid answer so i dont' have to think for myself right?

How fucking wrong. How utterly embarassingly completey wrong.

Well, there started the re-education process. I thought to myself, if what i was taught in uni (econ/finance/mandarin majors) was so right -oh and so ironic my school taught me keynes and freidman ie government interference in an economy is good - where THE FUCK was Hayek, Mises, Woods etc???? - how the hell did we end up with these imbalances and why (LTCM, tech boom, sub prime, sovereign (coming soon) are they getting more frequent and more severe? something must be wrong.

I remember as a kid asking my mommy what a (NZ) dollar was, and being utterly baffled at 7 years old as to the answer.

'So if i turn up to the RBNZ they will give me the equivalent value in gold?'

'uh no sweetie, its worth a dollar cause they say it is'

'who is they?'

'the government'

'oh fuck this'

seriously, i thought i was stupid for not understanding, now i trust MYSELF and if i don't get it i think I'm not stupid the system is.

My reeducation started with:

 

Thomas E Woods

Ron Paul

Hayek

vonmises.org

zerohedge.com

and most importantly - that spongy grey matter in between my ears.

a big thankyou to all the commentators on zerohedge over the last two years. You have delivered a great service to at least one hick dumb fuck antipodean kid. cheers.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 13:46 | 408518 faustian bargain
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+1...I remain impressed with most of the minds I meet from down under. Sometimes I think you kiwis and ozzies are going to be the last ones standing. It must be the Foster's.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 23:27 | 409357 StychoKiller
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Fosters? Fsck that, Tooth Sheaf Stout!

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:42 | 408109 Insert witty title
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Oh and SteveNYC, please. Breed. Breed like a fucking rabbit, otherwise the welfare sponging braindead classes will outnumber us 5:1 in 30 years time and it will be hell on earth. You owe it to your forefathers to carry on that dna that can at least generate independent thought.

Sat, 06/12/2010 - 19:35 | 408306 Rick64
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Comments like these really inspire me not to loose hope. Thanks

Not the breeding comment.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 13:29 | 408474 SteveNYC
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Haha, I am completely flattered, thank you. But it has nothing to do with me. I needed a full-blown nervous breakdown several years ago to see the light. Now, I simply try to be a good custodian of the "light". Ensure my life is primarily spent trying to ease suffering, to maintain sovereignity over my own mind and help others do the same. Like we all should.

We are a race that is wasting away. I always wonder when I see young Indian and Chinese kids in the city, striving away, working untold hours, listening to their Shit-Pods and looking at their Shit-berries, WHY, OH WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO BE LIKE US?? Seriously, your cultures had it RIGHT thousands of years ago. Pick up the torch you schmucks, purge yourself of this "consumer", "me, me, me" mentality that is a cancer in our society.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 23:28 | 409359 StychoKiller
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We are living in the age of Kali (google it).

Check out www.worldvision.org for another way to alleviate suffering.

Sat, 06/12/2010 - 18:11 | 409886 SteveNYC
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Bless you brother. My family and I have been supporters of World Vision for 2 decades now.....and going strong.....

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:26 | 408060 -Michelle-
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I wander back and forth between a strange excitement and severe anxiety.  We've got an almost three-year-old, a 15-month-old, and another one due in a few months.  Sometimes I wonder at the world they'll be raised in and sometimes I think we'll need as many hands as possible to stay afloat.

I try to prepare as best as I can without succumbing to panic.  I'd rather transition to a simpler life of my own volition than be forced in to it by the external crisis.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 11:23 | 408194 RichardENixon
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I'm 53. When I was a kid, and all the way through my teen years, the general feeling among my peers was that we would eventually be annihilated in a nuclear exchange with the Soviets. I recall vividly the general zeitgeist that we should not take things to seriously and have fun while we could because the end was inevitable. You never know how these things are going to turn out. Do what you need to do to position yourself and your family to get through whatever comes along and don't panic about what you can't control.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 11:31 | 408218 Insert witty title
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Give us the grace to accept with serenity
the things that cannot be changed, Courage
to change the things which should be changed,
And the wisdom to distinguish the one from the other

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:19 | 407945 sumo
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Gunning the futures ahead of a bad number - another perfect trading day for GS prop desk.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:56 | 407898 John McCloy
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That's the best they could do with tax refunds? Does not bode well. This looks like the beginning of the end Forunemployment check bonanza. Look for eBay to have a great month as people turn to their home for income.I also notice I have been seeing less armed forces commercials lately. Likely because they are not needed. Falling sales and rising dollar cannot be great for retailers.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:11 | 407926 Insert witty title
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'Look for eBay to have a great month as people turn to their home for income'

you win at connect the dots, i love and hate this site because comments like this make me feel like a grade A retard, when my ego wants to go 'yah you're clever'

nicely done Sir.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:55 | 407899 -Michelle-
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I guess everyone blew through their tax "refunds" in April. 

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 23:31 | 409360 StychoKiller
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I filed our return late (extension, etc).  I'm STILL WAITING for the $2,300 the Govt owes us.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 08:55 | 407900 LoneStarHog
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Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, do you not understand?  It was not cold/warm weather this time.  People are glued to their televisions watching the BP disaster.  People just can't stop watching the BP live video stream of the leak. 

See how simple it is to explain the disappointment in sales?

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:02 | 407909 E pluribus unum
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Maybe they can sell a few hundred thousand "Dow 10K" hats as the market slowly sinks into the abyss. They go nicely with those "Nikkei 40K" chapeaus

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:06 | 407913 wang
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where's Christina Romer?

where's Austan Goolsbee?

where's Jared Bernstein?

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 12:37 | 408377 Cpl Hicks
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In some dictionary...under "shill".

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 13:48 | 408523 faustian bargain
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I want to see Christina Romer busted down to high school teacher in inner city Detroit.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:08 | 407918 lizzy36
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One wonders what the number would be ex-ipad sales?

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:14 | 407932 b_thunder
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Yo Yo Yo!!! wait a minute!  I thought China-land exports liek doubled or something!  And now i hear that yanks ar enot buying?  Europeans sure as heck are not spending as they used to....   so where the heck this chinese sh*t is?  in some giant warehouses?  or like  those rented tankers full of oil, there are cargo boats full of "consumer good" floating around?

 

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:24 | 407956 sumo
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According to Marc Faber, about half of China's exports go to emerging markets.

Speaking of giant warehouses, China is stockpiling hard commodities big-time,  according to the RBS:

http://www.arpllp.com/core_files/The%20Absolute%20Return%20Letter%200510...

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 23:32 | 409363 StychoKiller
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Look up miniscribe on wikipedia (Ship those bricks!)

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:14 | 407933 doomandbloom
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jobless, sale'less recovery?

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:16 | 407939 SofaPapa
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Rule 48, anyone? ;)

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:16 | 407941 poorold
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Retail Sales in U.S. Fall as Consumers Boost Savings (Update2)

By Bob Willis  June 11 (Bloomberg) -- Sales at U.S. retailers unexpectedly dropped in May, signaling consumers boosted savings as employment slowed and stocks fell. ...

 

"as consumers boost savings"...well then, it's all okay.  Folks are just saving a little more.

The decline couldn't possibly be due to a contraction in consumer credit or the fact that the total dollars available to be spent is shrinking due to higher unemployment and lower overall wages.

No, not those reasons at all, otherwise peoeple would realize the "recovery" is nothing of the sort.

It's more like a boa constrictor slowly tightening itself around the economy.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:53 | 408001 papaswamp
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They are guessing savings is increasing...it will be interesting to see if they really are.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:18 | 407943 Chartist
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You just knew when Cramer came on CNBS yesterday afternoon talking up retail stocks, today's news on lousy retail sales numbers was a given....

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:24 | 407955 n2dark
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are people stocking up on gas now in anticipation of an upsurge in fuel prices ?!

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:30 | 407970 Ryan1053
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I donno - last month my american express credit card bill was 5.5k, this month it's 900 dollars. i didnt stop spending. just noise.

the above: not to say ppl didnt spend as much - only that there's noise and it's not 'bad' if ECO data doesn't move in a one-direction linear line at the exact median forecast..

you know. a tent city in central park hasnt been established. there's a lot of leasing activity with more pricing power shifting back to the seller...  sure. lots of time needed to get over all the stuff that has happenend...

you know. we'll see, etc etc etc

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:51 | 407999 Temporalist
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"a tent city in central park hasnt been established"

Looking to be the first?

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:34 | 407978 trillion_dollar...
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Retail sales way down. Now Congress is looking to extend the home buyer tax credit until Sept 30.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/10/AR2010061005434.html

HOMEBUYERTAXCREDIT4EVA

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:35 | 407980 stickyfingers
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Ironic, sugar is down ~ 42%YTD.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:40 | 407987 Running on Empty
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Hey Everybody Leo's Signing in as Ryan1053. You crazy malaka.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:44 | 407991 huggy_in_london
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so ridiculous to hear every bank economist trying to tell me that "this number isn't that bad" ... looks pretty bad to me....

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:57 | 408005 papaswamp
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Market rally if Consumer sentiment comes in at concensus or higher...

and it did.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 09:58 | 408010 Ryan1053
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no - i'm not leo ... medium term-reader, first time commenter :)

never signed in as someone else - just not as negative on the state of the world as most here - (i know that's rare as far as ZH commenters go)

 i love the site - one of the best for consolodating important fin/eco news in a timely period of time. well-written, by someone who has a great depth of understanding on most topics ...

so i love to read - also for the alternate opinion -- balance out my opinions, which are muted-positive...not discounting what happened or saying all is well... but I blv things are, and will continue, to improve..

most of the issues that are affecting the world feel natural from the events--which were not natural--that took place. I think most of this will work itself out in 2-3 years.

 

just my morning thoughts

 

 

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:23 | 408050 AssFire
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"I think most of this will work itself out in 2-3 years."

   Ah, the people who believe it is possible to be slightly pregnant still exist. So naive, yet able to pass the basic math test to post a comment.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 23:36 | 409366 StychoKiller
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It's always darkest just before it's completely black!

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:01 | 408014 HEHEHE
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Love it, headline on Bloomberg is that they dropped "unexpectedly".  Yeah it was unexpected if you were just plain ignorant or a Wall Street snake oil salesperson.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:05 | 408020 HEHEHE
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The miniscule rise in March and April was strictly due to tax refunds.  Anybody who didn't see that was high or trying to sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:11 | 408029 divide_by_zero
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Looks like indices all went positive, unepected drops are good

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:23 | 408052 HEHEHE
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Yeah, Michigan Survey said consumers are very confident, apparently with the governments wallet not their own.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:24 | 408053 Strider
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Yep the market ran back up on consumer sentiment survey. What a load of hooey. I guess consumers feel better now that they are buying less. Who is it that feeds these circle jerks on news? I guess if they didnt trade they would have nothing to do.

Spending down but sentiment up. good one.

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 11:40 | 408242 Insert witty title
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go check out how the michigan survey is constructed.

what a load of shit. 30 michigan stoner uni students asked what they think about the future and stoxx puts on 70 points...

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 11:34 | 408225 Ripped Chunk
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Here comes the summer of discontent

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 11:40 | 408241 Groucho
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where can i buy food stamp futures?

Fri, 06/11/2010 - 12:27 | 408346 Cpl Hicks
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The sugar high is over; next is the body politic's withdrawal from all of 0bama's distilled rainbow and powdered unicorns horn.

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