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Summary Update Of Japan's Nuclear Crisis - The Cable Quandary
Below is the most recent summary update from Reuters on the Japanese crisis. The one topic that everyone is following, however, namely whether some cable is attached to some cooling installation that probably blew up on Monday or Tuesday, gets the proper treatment: i.e., in the span of 4 minutes Reuters reports two completely conflicting stories. Looks like we will be seeing more crocodile tears from TEPCO executives in the next few days.
- From 10:52 pm ET - Engineers have yet to attach a cable to Japan's quake-stricken reactors but hope to be successful either on Saturday or Sunday, the plant operator said.
- From 10:54 pm ET - Engineers successfully attach a power cable to the outside of the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear station in a first step to help cool reactors and stop the spread of radiation.
Credible stuff.
More updates below:
- Further cabling inside under way before an attempt to restart water pumps to cool overheated fuel rods. Engineers able to restart a diesel pump to cool reactor No. 5, plant operator says.
- Plant operator says once power is restored, the next stage will be to check equipment is working and not damaged before trying to crank up the coolers at reactor No. 2, followed by 1, 3 and 4.
- The U.N. atomic agency says conditions at the plant are grave but not deteriorating badly.
- If engineers are unable to cool the reactor, the last option would be entombing the plant with concrete and sand to prevent a catastrophic radiation leak, the method used at Chernobyl in Ukraine in 1986.
- Severity rating of the nuclear crisis raised to level 5 from 4 on the seven-level INES international scale, putting it on a par with the Three Mile Island accident in 1979, although some experts say it is more serious. Chernobyl was a 7 on that scale. - No plans yet to expand the evacuation area beyond 30 km at this point. Japan's nuclear agency said the radiation level at the plant was as high as 20 millisieverts per hour. The limit for workers involved in emergencies was 100 millisieverts but it has been raised to 250 for workers handling the Fukushima incident.
- The head of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Gregory Jaczko, says it could take weeks to cool the reactors. About 300 workers, wearing masks, goggles and protective suits are toiling in the radioactive wreckage.
- Japanese PM Kan plans to sound out the opposition on joining a grand coalition to handle reconstruction policy following the earthquake and tsunami.
- A man pulled alive from the rubble of a house eight days after the quake in Miyagi prefecture, one of the hardest hit areas.
- Nearly 7,000 people have been confirmed killed in the quake and tsunami. Another 10,700 people are missing with many feared dead.
- The Japanese government plans to dedicate up to 10 trillion yen ($127 billion) in crisis lending to businesses to help them finance day-to-day operations and repair damage, Nikkei said
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"Crisis Lending" -priceless
I'm having a crisis -- kin I git some o' dat?
No, but how about a cup of nice warm milk.
From the LA Times...
"The amount of radiation found in the milk, if consumed for a year, was equivalent to levels found in one CAT scan...
The dairy farm in question is "more than 19 miles" from the Fukushima plant, beyond the 12-mile evacuation perimeter set up by authorities, Edano said....
I'm no Dairy Queen but if the cow's milk is radioactive on Friday how much earlier was the grass it ate irradiated, i.e. what is the conversion time from food to milk in a cow?
"I'm no dairy queen..." Very funny.
The MontyPython-SimpleScale Nuclear Radiation Code =
1 - Tis' but a Scratch
2 - Your Arms Off
3 - I'll Have Your Other Arm
4 - I Don't Want to go On the Cart
5 - What behind the Rabbit? It is the Rabbit!
6 - Jezzzzzsus Christ,,,,, that Rabbit's Dynamite!
I imagined Crisis Giving would be the order of the day, ne?
After all close to 30 trillionwent to certain someone' s in a crisis giving mode.
ORI
Here is a good 6 minute vid on what was done to cleanup Chernobyl. The ruskies used humans called "biorobots" and sent them in. Many times the actual robots being used to assist would not work and literally drive into the breach...
Anyway....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zx739LOE8U
I hear Japan is currently taking applications.
they finally sent in some robots.. some radz detector bots
Yea but like in that video the robots can only last so long with radiation levels that high.
wow. Bravery vs. Stupidity. I don't know.
Now that I'm over 40 I know I'd never do that. Maybe when I was 20 and stupid.
Great link.
Bellona ia reporting 3700 mSv/hr at some of the plants. Of course they hate nukes so they make be exagerating. (they also said the release is already 1/10 of Chernobyl which I don't believe either). My WAG would be somewhere between the 15 - 87 mSv/hr reported by the Japanese and the 4 Sv reported by the nuke H8Rs.
Quote "
At approximately 10AM on March 15th, we observed 400mSv/h at the inlandside of the Unit 3 reactor building and 100mSv/h at the inland side of
the Unit 4 reactor building.
"
From http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11031803-e.html
TEPCO Press Release (Mar 18,2011)
If you look on google you can find all kinds of interviews, and documentaries from surviors, scientists, etc that state how much the government lied. Saying things like "there is no radiation, or very little" even in Pripyat they were telling the citizens that there was no threat whatsoever.
Incredible stuff to those thirsting for a taste of the future if you spend the time to look
That was part of what made Chernobyl as bad as it was, the bumbling bureaucracy and denial of reality. It seems to be playing out here as well.
Listen to this guy's rant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crP9PqlPnD0
ive seen this guys videos before he is like the Japanese alex jones.(except he is still white, but he speaks japanese)
He's got ballz.
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/
Uranium one up 13% today
Strathmore monerals up 22% today
Uranium Energy up 11% today
Evil bastard :)
Your comment is misleading as Strathmore is down 45% from the Feb/11 peak and over 90% from the 07' peak. The stock was a dog until QE2.
Well done!!
You forgot to add:
* As a result, prices everywhere set to rise
All your purchasing power are belong to us,
-the cabal
Deja vu? How about top kill or maybe a junk shot and then a containment cap? Sorry I'm not a taker anymore, Just tell us it's going to take 100 +- days and cause Catastrophic economic, enviornmental and human health issues. And please if you have so much uncertainty can you show some humanity and initiate an evacuation plan for Tokyo like you should have done 5 days ago.
those poor workers....gonna be a lotta lawsuits
The Japanese don't typically sue as a culture.
I recall some devastating airline crash and no one sued the company.
I believe the company gave a small amount of money to each family for their loss and that was it. It's completely different over there than the US or other countries.
What you DON'T SEE in Japan at this point is looting, violence, anger, and people complaining the GOVT isn't doing enough for them. So,,,,, a bit different than say a Katrina reaction. Different people are the Japanese, a people who don't feel everything is owed them.
However their GOVT officials and CEOs need to be more upfront with their people, and quite HIDING all the trouble. Ask for Assistance EARLIER rather than later. They could improve on that. However their GOVT and the clowns who ran the Gulf of Mexico disaster and are still running it, are very very similar. Why is it the Top Brass are so F'n Stupid in every Country and Culture?
I hope they can get these Reactors under control and the winds don't switch and blow over Tokyo.
"The Japanese don't typically sue as a culture." True. As an island-based culture they restrict the majority of their sharks to off-shore.
"...conditions at the plant are grave but not deteriorating badly."
How do you deteriorate more than "grave"?
Mass grave.
I think it goes like this:
Grave, graver, gravest.
Brave, braver-->Gravest.
See?
ORI
https://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/axis-trembles/
Such crap ...
These sites could not be made operational in 6 months under perfect working conditions, never mind a lethal exposure in < 5 minutes !
If by 'operational' you mean 'not careening into disaster on an hourly basis' then yes, if radiation took a holiday....
look familiar to anybody?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HPddRn-Sn8
Why hasn't anyone blamed Bush yet for the earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear reactor meltdown in Japan? It's surely all his fault. Just ask Obama. He'll tell ya.
10:55 pm ET - Engineers have removed all radioactive material and the site is now fully built out as "Disney Japan".
whomever junked me, I was merely trying to underscore the ridiculousness of "fact reporting" coming from govt agencies.
If you couldn't see that, then F-off.
Ultimately, this catastrophe is EVERYONE'S responsibility.
Yeah, I'm talkin' to YOU.
It's a tragic testimony to humanity's technological advance into the fields of nuclear energy. Should the "unthinkable" happen, and there is a catastrophic radiological release due to a nuclear meltdown, many people seem to assume that there just has to be a contingency plan in place to deal with this type of worst-case scenario.
Newsflash: Try implementing that contingency plan in a disaster scenario. Bear in mind that it requires you to consign many brave souls to their death, but hey, as long as YOU don't have to deal with this mess personally, what's the problem?!?
F*ck this shit. Who wants to fight?
GAMMA RADIATION LEVELS ON WEST COAST 2 T0 10 TIMES LEVELS ON EAST COAST - GOOGLE CACHE OF THE STORY THAT WAS DELETED
Google cache of story - since taken down.
References Zero Hedge.
No cover up. Suuuuure.
I see that you didn't get the memo.
RadNet is run by the EPA. Earlier captured values have been wiped.
The data is suspect, and before you cry 'tin foil!,' please tell me why so many reporting stations were and are offline?
Edit - I was just informed that there was confusion as to reported values versus reporting station IDs, but there's still a question as to why so many stations are or have been offline.
I see you're an idiot who will use any excuse to justify your confirmation bias of conspiracy.
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EPA RADNET data is down again. Must be under survey. Or as it's called in the US, "quality review".
https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/showMap.do
https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet/query.do
Is Rick James working for Reuters?
Real Rick James: See, I never just did things just to do them. Come on, what am I gonna do? Just all of a sudden jump up and grind my feet on somebody's couch like it's something to do? Come on. I got a little more sense then that.
[pause]
Real Rick James: Yeah, I remember grinding my feet on Eddie's couch.
So it is just as we skeptics thought. This is like the old sayings about Isvestia: they do report the news, you just have to know how to read between the lines.
Connecting to the BUILDING is not the same as connecting to the REACTOR. Presenting the reports as being in conflict is simply nonsense. It illustrates the lack of understanding of the work that is being done.
What I want to know is why portable generators were not flown in immediately (as in two weeks ago to provide power for the water pumps. Of all the nations the US and Japan have the technology and logistics to do this within hours. They could have brought in a nuke sub and run an extension cord (its been done before) to provide electrical power to at least one of the plants if not all of them.
LA Times reporting that they have the cable at the building of No 2 reactor but have not yet connected the power - first, all internal circuits have to be checked by workers (presumably just checking for water pools and obvious physical damage?) and then the workers have to actually hook up the power lines, which I would guess possibly involves a transformer too. All while wearing hazmat suits and working short shifts due to the radiation...
Also reporting that they hope to connect power to 3+4 tomorrow.
Perhaps the best news is that they have jury rigged a device to spray water onto the top of reactor 3 constantly and unmanned, for 7 hours at a time. (I'm not sure what the 7 hours is - maybe that is the intervals between fillups of diesel?)
I would evaluate this news as good positive progress.
Unfortunately, I imagine they are going to have to continue doing this indefinitely though - I have not seen, anywhere, any suggestion - apart from "entombment" - for how to deal with this situation longer term. The alternatives would seem to involve, for each of reactors 1, 2, 3, 4:
1) Filling the spent fuel pools full of water, so that workers can work safely on the roofs of reactors
2) Removal of debris from the destroyed roofs
3) Reactivation of cranes, if still working
4) Removal of all spent fuel rods to an off-site location
That doesn't even begin to deal with the cores.