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  • Japan democrats win landslide in historic election (Reuters)
  • As Germany's Angela Merkel poised next on the chopping block (Bloomberg)
  • Must read: REITs racing to bankruptcy (Contrarian Profits)
  • Alan Abelson: Sometimes a great nation (Barron's)
  • World stocks controlled by a select few (Global Research)
  • Russia's perspective on America: The new bourbons (Pravda)
  • Reuters picks up on Barney Frank endorsing HR 1207 story, first reported on Zero Hedge (Reuters) - might be just a little tougher to back out now...
  • Lehman claims could reach $100 billion, as the company's stock skyrockets (Reuters)
  • Halting recovery divides America in two (WSJ)
  • Rakoff pokes further at attorney client privilege in bonus case (AmLawDaily)
  • The dollar carry trade: cheaper to borrow in USD then JPY (Debts of a Nation)
  • CHF1 trillion of Switzerland's CHF2.8 trillion of foreign money is untaxed "black money" (Swiss Review)
  • China Investment Corp fuelling stock market bubble by investing in hedge funds (Bloomberg)
  • More SEC stupidity: regulator designated questionable rating agencies (Dow Jones)
  • China's SOE may terminate commodities contracts (Caijing)
  • AIG shares look overpriced (Reuters), talk about an understatement
  • Fighting alcoholism in Russia absolutely impossible, Medvedev says (Pravda)
  • Wall Street betrayal seen in $4.8 billion company debt losses (Bloomberg)
  • The Zell of the brawl (Breakingviews)



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Sun, 08/30/2009 - 15:59 | Link to Comment Veteran
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with respect to msorense, who posted this earlier.  long but definitely worth it

 

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/53994

 

say that reminds me, what's this horseshit he's saying about going after people who were smart enough to walk away?? 

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 16:58 | Link to Comment MountainHawk
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Great link...thanks...

Thu, 09/09/2010 - 02:59 | Link to Comment qrs521
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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 08:56 | Link to Comment Spartacus
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I know someone in the Northern California area who stopped paying his mortgage MONTHS ago and the bank has not even contacted him. He contacted the bank and they told him they were backed up and would contact him in the future. The bank has not yet followed up with him. Meanwhile he went and bought another home and has already moved. At the same time he is renting out the home he stopped paying on… F—NG crazy. I’m working my job like an idiot and he is making money by renting out a “stolen” home. ABSOLUTELY F—NG CRAZY!!!! Don’t misunderstand me, I don’t blame him. He is just doing EXACTLY what the banks are doing in collusion with the federal gov’t . But when you see it in context of an individual you see how messed up it really is.

This whole thing makes me sick. Atlas Shrugged is playing out in real life. This entire thing is a disgrace to what our nation was founded on… time to get our guns out and reform the banking industry… 1776 style…

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 09:44 | Link to Comment Spartacus
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Blackstone’s Schwarzman Selling Hamptons Home for $7.2 Million .

He’s selling it as he completes construction on a 9.9-acre estate in Water Mill, New York, also on Long Island, the Wall Street Journal reported today. He bought that property for $34 million in 2005, according to the Journal.

 

Schwarzman was the highest-paid executive in the U.S. last year, with compensation topping $702 million, the Corporate Library reported on Aug. 14.

I am sure lots of people would be interested to know where he stays.

Folks, there is nothing wrong in getting those money back. Cheers

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 16:26 | Link to Comment AN0NYM0US
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and from Forbes

Rep. Frank seeks compromise on Fed audit bill

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/afx/2009/08/29/afx6829094.html

"...

The Financial Times reported on Saturday that Frank hoped to bring forward compromise legislation that would safeguard the Fed's independence, while enhancing transparency and creating checks and balances for the central bank's use of emergency lending powers.

Steven Adamske, a spokesman for Frank, told Reuters the congressman would work with Paul on a compromise bill. He said compromise language had not yet been written and provided no further details. A spokesman for Paul could not be reached. ..."

(please note the Reuters article originally put up Saturday around 9:30pm based on input from an 'aid' of Barney's was changed significantly overnight (the Forbes referenced article above was picked up from Reuters and is still the original - also note that the new Reuters article buries and dilutes the "compromise idea" a few paragraphs in)

 

 

 

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 21:51 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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W

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At first I thought a thorough list of caps locked profanities would work well to express my feelings. But these words are very limited so I'll just say that I am angry.

The current bill at last count has 280 cosponsers! That's more than half of all representatives! What is logic's name is he thinking? Do 280 representatives have to compromise with one jerkoff? What is really being compromised here? This audit 'political' process is such blatant display of corruption and the true shepherd and dog relationship of the fed and government yet it not angering the sheep one bit. Why?

I hope guilt consumes these people sooner rather than later.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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Bawney Fwank is Owiously Cowwupt

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 22:02 | Link to Comment aldousd
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Guilt? Hope? With ammunition like that, this is going to be a lopsided battle.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 22:19 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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Michael Corleone knows how this works:

"I saw a strange thing today. Some rebels were being arrested. One of them pulled the pin on a grenade. He took himself and the captain of the command with him. Now, soldiers are paid to fight; the rebels aren't."
"What does that tell you?"
"It means they could win."

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 01:31 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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...

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 22:13 | Link to Comment deadhead
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I certainly understand your frustration. The item I would point out is that just because someone is a cosponsor of a bill, it does not necessarily mean that they really support it.  It's just another part of the legislative process that is hypocritical, like the members themselves.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 22:22 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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What they will try to do is embrace, extend, and extinguish.  We have to keep up pressure for a real audit.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 01:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 08:26 | Link to Comment JohnKing
Sun, 08/30/2009 - 16:46 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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I found that some of the second tier local newspapers show more truthful RE picture that main media:

http://mortgage.freedomblogging.com/2009/08/29/record-8000-mortgages-set...

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 16:52 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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and yet another one:

http://mortgage.freedomblogging.com/2009/08/28/reader-debates-sinking-mo...

 

1 st paragraph says it all. Not only mid level homes were bought by people who couldn't afford those homes but upper end RE is facing the same problem - financially overstretched owners.  

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 18:29 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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p.s. I realize that ZH is after a big fish, however there are plenty of small times fraudsters  worth covering. If I had a ZH wish list coverage of those would be on it.

exhibit a:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laland/2009/08/pomona-man-and-his-two-co...

exhibit b (Energy LP's was another "hot" area to for the "small" scale charlatans)

http://www.sec.gov/divisions/enforce/claims/providentroyalties.htm 

p.s. I would suggest small/local fraud tip line. 

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:11 | Link to Comment MountainHawk
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I want to move to Asia... hmm need to land myself a job in Singapore or something...

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:11 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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Riverboaters are now gunning Lehman Bros.

And don't forget the former GM, now called "Motors Liquidation"...

LOL...

 

 

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:20 | Link to Comment deadhead
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robo....missed your column friday...you gonna be back right?? please?

and, don't forget the pics!

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:21 | Link to Comment Veteran
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second

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:36 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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x3

p.s. 

http://www.djmick.co.uk/really/24-pictures-of-nice-view-moments/

a good provocative pix that might go well with LEH submariners ...

 

p.s.s. Wonder, what % drop will it take for western funds to start withdrawing money from red dragon - China? The only stats I saw was an inflow of cash into Emerging Market funds, which is rather surreal.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:37 | Link to Comment Veteran
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yo comrade, out of the blue, Kel Tec SU 16.  bad ass little piece

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:45 | Link to Comment pigpen
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Veteran, I have the Kel Tec pf-9. Nice little bugger. Built in the USA.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Veteran
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Thanks.  Haven't heard a whole lot about Kel Tec brand but a helluva lot cheaper than an M4, (strictly US Army Infantry experience on my end).  Interesting mix of AK durability with M4 bolt technology.  Know this isn't a gun forum so will leave with this via Naked Capitalism

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/28/AR2009082802111.html

 

I know Yves is persona non grata around here due to thin skin but knowledge is power, yadda yadda yadda, no matter where it comes from

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 21:55 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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PF9 is Project Mayhem approved!  Very accurate for a pocket 9

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:46 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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you haven't seen a bad ass till you ve seen dat:

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_axes_pentagon_plan_to_build?...

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:47 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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virus alert on the page comrade...

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:58 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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strange, you could try 'em 1st article:

http://www.defensetech.org/

when it comes to toys those guys are my ultimate source.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:46 | Link to Comment Zippyin Annapolis
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The Japanese election bearish for  the dollar?

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/

""""More ominously a link-up between the Yen and Yuan, unthinkable with the former government, now looks possible.  Create a basket-of-currency settlement system over in Asia with the Yen and Yuan as the core elements and the US immediately loses control of the game we've been trying to run with the banksters and fraud-laced credit games in the United States."""

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 18:07 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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That'll be working and in place before mid november. US will be in time out and in enforced isolationism.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 18:32 | Link to Comment MurryRothbard
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Too bad the article in Gloabal Research wasn't more explicit. Names would be helpful.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 22:13 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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The Global Research article is based on an upcoming article in Physical Review E  (a physics journal).   I will be getting a copy of this upcoming issue as soon as it's out, probably next month.  I'm sure someone at ZH will do some sort of detailed article on it when the study comes out.

http://pre.aps.org/

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 02:03 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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Fantastic! Thanks a bunch

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sun, 08/30/2009 - 18:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 08/30/2009 - 18:39 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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Japanese Housewives in action after the landslide election victory:

 

 

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 21:00 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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Robo,

Biggest moves look to me to be in dollar/yen, euro/yen, swissy/yen, pound/yen, with yen gaining against all four.  Thanks for the heads up.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 18:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 08/30/2009 - 19:47 | Link to Comment TaroASSo
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Our voters are idiots....

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 20:28 | Link to Comment AN0NYM0US
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An Echo Chamber of Boom and Bust

By ROBERT J. SHILLER

Published: August 29, 2009

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/business/economy/30view.html?_r=1

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 20:47 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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Soros is the puppet master!!!!

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 22:03 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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I think Soros is a criminal but thats my 2c

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 22:55 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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He was convicted in France of criminal activity, involved in Columbian narco-trafficking, connected with the international Bilderberg elite, etc.  I'm about to go see that new movie District 9 so I've got to go... this is an okay article on some of Soros' stuff... not a fan of AIM but I can't look up better articles atm.  I don't care about the drug legalization but the criminal activity stuff gets on my nerves  Cheers

http://www.aim.org/special-report/the-hidden-soros-agenda-drugs-money-the-media-and-political-power/

 

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:19 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Isn't it funny how all the rich people want democracy and are all philanthropists and yet we have all these people starving and all the power is just a few hands. It's like they are all lying so we won't FIGHT them becuase after all some GOOD comes out of it.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:23 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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Arrogance is the least of his nefarious traits!

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 07:49 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sun, 08/30/2009 - 20:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 08/30/2009 - 20:52 | Link to Comment OSR
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<i>AIG shares look overpriced (Reuters), talk about an understatement.</i>

 

The fact that AIG shares are priced creates an ipso facto overpricing situation.

 

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 20:55 | Link to Comment crzyhun
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In the melt up cometh there was a discussion about a chart in BBerg...here is a better one via doug short...proves to be clearer and more depressing. Hope this works.

 

[via Doug Short]

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 20:59 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 08/30/2009 - 21:09 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-102756987285596323&hl=en

 

it's not going to blow unless the party says so..., or else.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 21:17 | Link to Comment nopat
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On the subject of REIT's, I'll be really anxious to dig through some 10-Ks at the end of this year, if we even get that far.  In particular the creative application of the FASB13 rules and how these firms report non-cash straight-lining of revenues (if they even get that deep into it).

 

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a sudden surge of fixed-escalators as the index-of-the-month and a re-papering of entire portfolios at 2x term rates to drive some pro forma metrics and hedge refinancing risk.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:17 | Link to Comment loki
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good christ.... how 'bout in English (just a little, huh?)  for the not-so-initiated? (Please?)

Thank you.  

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:25 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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well, it was the first news release about Chernobil (week after); it said a small accident, all injured are being treated and that the party will investigate. There were no warnings about radioactivity fall out, info about mass evacuations or possibility that reactor might.. blow.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:14 | Link to Comment nopat
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Without getting too detailed, if you lease out real estate in a contract that covers multiple years, and you know what the rent will be in the first and last periods of that contract term (rent increases at a fixed amount or percentage, not random like CPI; little more complicated than that, but whatever), under GAAP/FASB13, the number you report as revenue from that lease contract is the average of those payments.  So let's say you own the land under Foxboro Stadium, and the Patriots have agreed to pay you $1M/year for 20 years, and to adjust for inflation you've agreed to increase the rent 3% each year.  Even though you are collecting $1M in cash payments in the first year, you report $1.34M - the average of those 20 years and the $340k being a non-cash item.  The rub is in year 20 you are collecting $1.75M in cash payments and offsetting it with a -$410k non-cash charge to get back down to $1.34M.  Hence you have straight-lining: you can't ask the tenant to give you some lump sum up-front (presumbably for a discount in rent), or structure the payments such that you collect a majority of the cash in the first half of the term.

 

Need me to go on?  There's a nasty black swan in this if you haven't already caught it...

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:26 | Link to Comment nopat
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Think of it like a sub-prime, no doc, 100% financed mortgage.  And if the holder has no cash and is 90-days delinquent, doubling down by refinancing the equity.

 

Not really CPA territory, considering I'm not an accountant.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 21:33 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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As usual, psycho FX trading in Asia.

Robots are short-circuiting everywhere.

ForexRobot, GridBot traders are getting massacred.

Yeah, watch the money roll in....

LOL....

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 21:45 | Link to Comment Nictrades
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Nothing beats Sunday night/Monday morning FX trading.  I love Mrs Watanabe!

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 21:52 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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Here 'ya go...

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 22:30 | Link to Comment deadhead
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can we see the parts with the freckles?

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 01:51 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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!

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 22:11 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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Would the crazy bitch stop selling the dollar already?

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 22:17 | Link to Comment deadhead
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we can always count on you Robo.....you are the man!

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 22:05 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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How do I skip to Step 3 and get the girl in the green shirt ??     Thx in advance

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:03 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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Andy, I have added more to our earlier chat on IRS's so check it out at that thread.  By the way, no one answered your question as to why Soros is so evil--Project Mayhem--I'm talking to you. Interesting how that happens. No one wants to go into the Russian Mob talk about Soros. Whether it is or is not true--makes little difference. One person cannot rule the market and suffers the consequences of their market investment decisions.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:37 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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How is that different than Buffett or Vampire Squid??? 

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:46 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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He who pays, picks the music...

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:48 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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He has more brain cells? Buffett is dead. The man is a poacher at this point. Vampire squid is the same, short term suck it out of all of us with 98% trading profits out of 100%. There is a difference. I could be wrong...they could all be the same organism..oh well. Stay safe. 

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:45 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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He's a smart man. He thinks miles ahead...and has done very well. 

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:45 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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Hyman Roth: What I am saying is, we have now what we have always needed, real partnership with the government.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:54 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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I don't enjoy discussing money that does not belong to me...my quote to Mr. Soros 15 years ago...

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:22 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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Crime Pays ----Blankfiend

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:33 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people

JFK

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:43 | Link to Comment MinnesotaNice
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Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder. 

George Washington

 

And I am afraid he was right, as exemplified by most of our politicians.

 

 

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 01:58 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 02:07 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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@Howard  Hey -- I said earlier I was leaving , so I didn't have time to go back and review the research on him... just over the course of the years Soros always sticks out in the middle of things, in terms of funding nefarious activities... I hadn't heard anything about the Russian mob and Soros but that would not surprise me.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 06:09 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 09:09 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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Obviously you cannot be bothered with facts like criminal convictions.  

 

Soros Is Found Guilty in France On Charges of Insider Trading
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/21/business/soros-is-found-guilty-in-france-on-charges-of-insider-trading.html

French court upholds Soros conviction
 The conviction of George Soros, the billionaire investor and former fund manager, on insider trading charges was upheld on Thursday by a French appeals court, which rejected his argument that his investment in a French bank in 1988 was not based on confidential information.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/24/business/worldbusiness/24iht-soros.html

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 09:35 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:30 | Link to Comment MountainHawk
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SH down 5%....sweeet!!!!!!

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:41 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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bye bye stimulas money...lol

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:38 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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wow, even japanese housewives are in retreat. Greenshots are here & greenshots are there. greenshots are everywhere!

Whoever is trading $ will have a fun time. Just imagine the rat race between FED trying to lower $ and every other central bank trying to drop their own currency. Good Times. 

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:46 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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Is there a country not trying to debase the snot out of their currency right now? If so, can they handle massive deflation?

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:51 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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The simple answer is NO

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:54 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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My GUESS (!!!) would be countries in the Eastern Europe, because they have to pay back huge loans dominated mostly in EUR & CHF. It's kind of a double jeopardy for them. If they keep their currencies afloat they face drop in exports to EU. If they drop their currencies, they face defaults. In both cases it creates an extra strain on their GDP.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:55 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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Ok smarty pants, so what's our next move?

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:57 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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who you calling smarty pants?

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:59 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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lmao

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:00 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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You..;-)

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:10 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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ahahaha

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:07 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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TRADE WARS !!! 

Whoever puts trade obstacles the last loses the most, and everyone will probably lose a little. Cheap OIL & other commodities.  (not for too long) Our government giving up on RE prices stabilization and artificially low interest rate. 

Finally, new equilibrium where we spend less and save/invest more with spend/invest level catching up to the historical average level for the US.

p.s. Invest, I meant invest as the whole country into production and not necessary as herd taking on the Vegas.  Now it's a good scenario, I shouldn't discount the ability of clowns upstairs of figuring out how to prolong our pain so there might be a bad scenario.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:06 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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Maybe you're right. The purpose for the question was to, through process of elimination, figure out the best place to live. Eastern Europe is facing great exploitation and civil unrest so its out the question for me. China is not debasing but I don't think it can handle deflation. Israel raised rates but it has exploitation and civil unrest (understatement of the year?)

There has to be at least one though. GDP is not a factor so I just can't imagine that there isn't a small opprotunistic country trying to lure investment into its premises.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:18 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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HAL9000: I am afraid I can not answer your question.

DEEP THOUGHT: 42

SKYNET: you can run but you can not....

AWSOMO: The answer is classified, however if the price is right....

 

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:35 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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Zimbabwe it is then!

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:24 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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Key word *seeks*

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:47 | Link to Comment MinnesotaNice
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Futures are falling... wonder if we'll have a repeat of Aug 17th... or if they will pump them up overnight?  And for such a great election in Japan the Nikkei doesn't seem terribly enthused.

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 23:56 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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The Nikkei did not get the memo...lol

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:03 | Link to Comment MinnesotaNice
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Yeah... I think pretty much everyone in Asia was left off the email cc:

Geithner and Bernanke have just got to get better secretarial help... maybe the gal in the green shirt is available.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:14 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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http://alcachondeo.com/videos/perro-huele-culos/ver.html

Bernanke and Geithner interviewing secretaries.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:25 | Link to Comment MinnesotaNice
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OMG... where do you find these videos?  Just when you think you have seen it all... just ask Sqworl to show you that you clearly haven't.  Although it does not top the baseball bat guy... subtract the racist comments and he was really funny...

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 06:42 | Link to Comment Glen
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Anon, China tends to blow alot of hot air around - typically like the biggest kid on the block. They made alot of threats "statements" when raw material prices were being re-negotiated that really amounted to nothing. China's foreign investment is plummeting so making threats like this just really isn't helpful.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:26 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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-10 Anon

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 01:21 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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That Anon post did not deserve your typical judgement.  -10?  Get serious. He had a point and it was not worth shooting him down. Sqworl--have you ever seen Bill Maher who you blasted in BOLD CAPS earlier? I'm sick of your nonsense..you KNOW soo much. If you are so smart than profit on it and shut the fuck up. You scream Maher doesn't know what he is talking about. You have no idea that he is 1) against big government, 2) against idiots and religious idealists and 3) a  kickass MF because he called out the Government on the war against terror and the MSM ate him alive. He is one of us, not the enemy you portray him to be.

So why not educate yourself with all your opinions, which are so uninformed. You just swing your small dick in the way you think is popular on ZH. Try the smart way. Towards the urinal. Stop being a bully and get your facts straight. Or stop drinking and posting.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 01:52 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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I'm waiting Sqworl...just waiting for your nasty reply. In the meantime, post your anonymous resume of real world Wall Street experience. Something that gives your blasting of all opinions credence. Because as far as I can see, you are a hack. Just another bloghag with truly nothing to offer.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 02:02 | Link to Comment Veteran
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Take it easy ,Howie. These internet tough guys are slightly more pathetic than telephone tough guys.  facebook/my space/zero hedge (unfortunately) are merely one more sign of the pussification of America, (sorry), World, (wouldn't want to offend our European/Cossack brethren).  Heaven forbid we engage in real world discourse.   

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 02:18 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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Thanks...off to bed. You said it well.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 07:23 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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Howard: You must get a hold of your thong and gently pull it from your coolie.

Screaming on ZH about China's constant chatter is nonesense and you well know it.

If my post offend you, ignore them!!

Have a great trading day!!

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 09:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 00:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 01:04 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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aspiring HF(Traders) be aware:

"The Commission's (SEC) complaint alleges that, from at least October 2006 through the present, Graulich and iVest have raised approximately $13 million from at least five investors by offering and selling investments in a trading program that purports to generate guaranteed weekly returns ranging from 22% to 140% with little or no risk."

http://search.sec.gov/secgov/index.jsp#queryResultsTop

 

and their website: 


http://www.ivestcapital.com/

 

and.. it's gone!

 


 

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 01:16 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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That is correct

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 01:43 | Link to Comment Silver Bullet
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I'm loving this new Russian news site. lol.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 03:46 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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You mean Pravda? 

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 02:05 | Link to Comment TaroASSo
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It's no brainer that Japan goes to protectionism under DPJ. Shanghai knows it.

 

http://ichart.finance.yahoo.com/t?s=000001.SS

 

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 08:07 | Link to Comment AN0NYM0US
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Roach on Bloomberg 8am EDT to 9am

 

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