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On Systemic Risk - Black Swans Or Market Innovations?

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Institutional Risk Analyst's Chris Whalen together with Dennis Santiago and former NY Fed economist Richard Alford take on the topic of systemic risk, and present it in a unique light. (pdf link)

 




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Tue, 08/18/2009 - 19:34 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 19:41 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Just read the post at the IRA.  Makes for quality discussion and thought provoking reflection. 

The "Black Swan' approach assumes a stable distribution of price changes with fatter than "normal" tails. The alternative posits that the distribution of possible price changes was altered by innovation and the low cost of leverage. It also posits that the new distributions allowed, indeed require, more extreme price movements.

Thanks for posting this one TD.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 19:42 | Link to Comment Steak
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I am encouraged and dismayed at the same time.  What did I learn?  That VaR models use normal distributions.  What the flying fuck on that one!  ANY system that incorporates human emotions and insider information will never have a normal distribution.  So that is the dismayed part.

The encouraged part is how easily one can expose this "no one saw this freak occurance coming" argument is exposed as BS.

I very much appreciate that their alternate hypothesis to the black swan framework utilized the imagery of jumping to different quantum levels.  It very much squares with Koo's idea of the balance sheet recession where a shift in what is being optomized (reducing debt as opposed to maximizing profit) causes a sudden shift in where the market clears.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 19:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 19:43 | Link to Comment pinkboxtrader
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i thought 'black swan' was the name of the bizarro-world deus ex machina who messes up our 'win-win' situations. oh cruel demiurge!

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 19:48 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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LISTEN UP....JUST HEARD THE USD IS GOING TO COLLAPSE....PLEASE CONFIRM THIS....

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 20:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 10:48 | Link to Comment chunkylover42
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I confirm.

now what?

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 20:36 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 20:52 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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Need a picture of Bernanke and Tim "Eddie Haskell" Geithner under duress.  Anyone have one?

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 21:23 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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Hard to find a photo of that.  Had to settle for one sans Little Timmy:

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/political-pictures-paul...

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 23:11 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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Not under duress.

Merely being questioned by Maxine Waters.

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 01:40 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Since Ron Dellums is no longer there..

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 23:17 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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Just need a pic of Timmy covering his ears, to complete the monkey picture.  This begs a skilled Photoshop.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 21:01 | Link to Comment Rollerball
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 00:57 | Link to Comment gearbox (not verified)
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 21:17 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 22:28 | Link to Comment Chumly
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A well-summarized reminder that we still stare headlong into illiquidty-insolvency and those who may have (or had) the greatest capacity steer us clear of crashes are incapable of doing so.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 23:44 | Link to Comment wheaties
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Damn good paper.  I have to pass this around to my friends.

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 01:03 | Link to Comment Bruce Krasting
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I looked at few private MBS deals in 05-06. These deals were built on two assumptions. (1) A zero probability of a nation wide RE decline. (2) A zero probability of a decline in any one region greater than 10% in any given year. That was crazy. As discussed in this piece, things happen. But MBS was not a Black Swan. This was not some creature that jumped out and surprised us. It was out in the open, swimming in the same lake as the originators of the swill MBS. 

The folks that were doing this knew it would end bad. They were just making too much money to leave the table. The big error was misjudging how fast things could move once they got moving. There was a recognition of the risk. The assumption was that liquidity would be sustained and positions reduced with manageable losses. A month before LEH went under there no liquidity in major asset classes. There was no exit from the ship.

Financial innovation was a euphemism for "more leverage". It led to the jump in Vol and the resulting illiquidity.

 

 

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 02:57 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 08/19/2009 - 07:28 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m3d27-Electrical-power-grid-to-be-blasted-by-2012-solar-storms

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/10mar_stormwarning.htm

 

from NASA: "History shows that big sunspot cycles 'ramp up' faster than small ones," he says. "I expect to see the first sunspots of the next cycle appear in late 2006 or 2007—and Solar Max to be underway by 2010 or 2011."


Who's right? Time will tell. Either way, a storm is coming.

 

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 08:15 | Link to Comment -273
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We have had massive solar flares before. The biggest was the carrington event.

In September of 1859, the entire Earth was engulfed in a gigantic cloud of seething gas, and a blood-red aurora erupted across the planet from the poles to the tropics. Around the world, telegraph systems crashed, machines burst into flames, and electric shocks rendered operators unconscious. Compasses and other sensitive instruments reeled as if struck by a massive magnetic fist. For the first time, people began to suspect that the Earth was not isolated from the rest of the universe. However, nobody knew what could have released such strange forces upon the Earth–nobody, that is, except the amateur English astronomer Richard Carrington.

 

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127001.300-space-storm-alert-90-...

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:00 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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http://www.spaceweather.com/

Still no sun dancers. But when they come they are going to be jumping hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNu9wp3tYdU&feature=related

 

 

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