TEPCO Now Evaluates Dispersing Boric Acid On Reactor 4 As Fuel Rod Damage At Other Reactors Estimated At 33% and 70%

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Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:18 | 1058005 mynhair
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Needing power suks.

This is bullish for TZA tomorrow.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:30 | 1058066 IQ 145
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 "The water may be boiling--" WTF do you mean, it MAY BE BOILING. Jesus H. Christ you can't tell if the fuking water is Boiling, or not Boiling? This is giving me a headache. I think I'll just stop reading this.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:49 | 1058097 Mark McGoldrick
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I'm not a nuclear physicist, but it sort of sounds like a problem with either the carburetor or a finster rod.  Can't they just run some codes on the CPU? 

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:50 | 1058156 jerry_theking_lawler
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i thought it may be the muffler bearings.....need to check the tie-rod dipstick for confirmation....

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:53 | 1058169 Mark McGoldrick
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Can't be muffler bearings, otherwise you'd hear a rattle.

IDIOT!

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:25 | 1058369 eddiebe
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And anyway, it's all ball bearings now.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:37 | 1058435 Yes We Can. But...
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Its called a 'muffler' because it muffles the bearing noise, you dumbass.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:49 | 1058485 Bleeping Fed
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The engine dropped out several miles ago.  Now it's just a bureaucrat under the hood making vroom vroom noises so the sheeple will still think they have a functioning car...

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:02 | 1058542 oklaboy
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ya'll are worthless, has anybody checked the air in the tires yet?

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 02:13 | 1059570 RichardP
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Can't check.  None of the instruments are working.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 05:06 | 1059749 zhandax
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All of you stay the fuck away from my car.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:38 | 1058439 CheapKUNGFU
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heh, he said finster rod... heh

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:17 | 1058631 cornedmutton
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As self-appointed nuclear expert of this forum, please allow to try to explain the reasoning behind the thought of spreading boric acid on the damaged reactor.

Boron is a poison in the nuclear world. This means it captures thermal neutrons - becoming a radioactive isotope in the process. However, fewer thermal neutrons means fewer fuel fission events. Poisoning a reactor with borated water (dilute boric acid) is done to either (a) shutdown or maintain shutdown a reactor that is potentially capable of reaching criticality even with all moveable control rods fully inserted, or (b) provide additional shutdown margin when the structural integrity of the fuel assemblies must be called into question. As the assemblies melt due to the intense decay heat production (which is not being removed as core cooling has failed), the fuel may change geometry and portions of the blob of resultant molten metal could then potentially achieve criticality (bad).

It is not "sprinkled around" and it's not to cover up radiation in a last ditch effort to prevent "nuclear fallout." The author of this blurb, like so many others that apparently don't know the first thing about the nuclear process as it pertains to energy production, is ultimately guilty of stoking the flames of fear that our out-of-control MSM is so keen to progress.

Everybody, relax.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:27 | 1058680 TeamAmerica
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LOL...you just told ZH to relax.  As if THAT will ever happen!

You also posted a reasoned and factual post, and thus will be targeted as an agent of The Man.   Next you'll suggest that deadly radiation hasn't already reached California and the government isn't covering it all up...  

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 01:08 | 1059401 Tail Dogging The Wag
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Relax, everything is under control. Trust your government and you will be safe and sound. If radiation doesn't kill you, it will make you stronger.

CNN says the new hair trend is no hair. Mutations are chic says FOX. McDonald's has just released its latest TV advert starring a balding Ronald McDonald and his two new girlfriends.

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Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:04 | 1058551 dark pools of soros
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a watched containment vessel never boils

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:55 | 1059193 prophet
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 I don't care who you are, that's funny right there

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:31 | 1058713 Paul Bogdanich
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"Jesus H. Christ you can't tell if the fuking water is Boiling, or not Boiling?"

 

You get close enough to have a good look there slick and let us know what you see before the convulsions start. 

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:07 | 1058913 SilverRhino
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Well let's see. Japan is only the robot fucking capital of the world. No one's got a drone with a freakin camera on it??

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:18 | 1058006 Boilermaker
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....as the nikkie reclaims all of it's losses in 30 minutes and the US futures erase  80 points negative instantly.

This is a fucking full-on flea circus.

What a mother fucking joke.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:21 | 1058018 mynhair
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Project yourself into what should happen, and do the opposite.

It's a Zen thing.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:29 | 1058052 Boilermaker
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Positively, without fucking doubt, the most laughable crock of donkey shit I have ever fucking seen...ever.

Oh, to be a pawn in the game of the rich.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:18 | 1058009 SWCroaker
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The headlines are that the fire @ #4 "appears to be out".  They don't actually say anything like "we put it out", or "we have it contained", but instead it reads more like "when we look for smoke through our binoculars from 8 miles away, we don't see nuthin no mo.  Whew."

These guys are doing crap; they're just providing commentary on what is unfolding!

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:29 | 1058044 ZerOhead
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And well after the fact at that. They must have gone to the same disinformation seminars as Tony Haywood.

Want to get real up to date information on where it's going?

Choose the 111 images dot then hit 'play'. Northern Pacific Infrared. Last two days. Japan upper left corner in gray area.

http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/satellite/animateweb_e.html?imagetype=satellite&imagename=goes_pac_1070_m_..................jpg&nbimages=1&clf=1

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:37 | 1058085 Amish Hacker
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How do you say, "Heck of a job, Brownie!" in Japanese?

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:55 | 1058187 Hedge Jobs
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This was on B'berg

"TEPCO said the fire was spotted by a worker around 5:45 a.m. local time. The company later said it was no longer visible."

No longer visible? f'cking hell! everything must be fine then if its no longer visible!

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:16 | 1058299 knukles
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Like them pesky no-see-'em's.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:17 | 1058310 10kby2k
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I didn't have sex with that woman.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:40 | 1058446 CheapKUNGFU
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define 'sex' - heh

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:26 | 1058374 SWCroaker
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Replying to myself here.  I just want to add that I realize that there *are* people on site, dealing with a seriously fubard situation, and that personal forays into or near the reactors carry a major risk of personal hazard and/or death.  Some of these folks may very well dose themselves to death in their efforts to do what needs doing.

What puzzle me is the lack of surveillance that hasn't been deployed.  Cameras with independent power sources, broadcasting wireless feeds, so the control peeps can see what is what, rather than wait for obvious clues.  You shouldn't have to by chance notice "smoke billowing" while "carrying batteries" from building to building.  Get some freaking cell phones, prop them up with the cameras on, and bug your butt out.  Cheap on the spot eyes, and after 5 days, surely you can have a copter fly in more robust stuff. Early detection of issues can give you a chance...

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:18 | 1058991 Stuck on Zero
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RPVs dude.  There are hundreds of them that can fly into anywhere you'd like and take HD pictures and send them back.  They're not so sophisticated that you can't get one on eBay.  There are a bunch listed here: http://www.rccarmax.com/.  I've flown them down corridors of buildings and theough the structure of bridges and returned HD images.

A few thousand invested here and there wouldn't be any question as to what is going on at the site.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 05:47 | 1059768 zhandax
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Keep in mind that the coast is in shambles and maybe by the time reactor two went south (last night) was there any capability to send in any outside equipment.  Also keep in mind that since battery power went dead (likely around Monday) those reactor buildings have have been pitch black hellholes of death.  As in no interior light.  Probably everything in the country that can still fly and hasn't gone to Singapore bearing bankers has been pressed into rescue service.  Then factor in the bureaucratic bullshit between two countries, and maybe tomorrow can they get some of the useful equipment for such circumstances airlifted in.  The tech goodies are indigenous to the country, buy you can't just jump on the bullet train to rush them up from Tokyo yet...  Remember, all the Japanese car manufacturers closed on Monday and to get Honda's prototype robot, someone in command must have the bearing to remember it exists and then have the phone number of Chairman-san of Honda.  The US does not have a monopoly on beaurecratic incompetence.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:20 | 1058011 william the bastard
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Where are the gold pimps?

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:22 | 1058030 mynhair
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Waiting for the low.  Too many morons left that need to sell.

Mostly NFLX shorts.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:40 | 1058091 tmosley
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We're running a train on your mother.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:20 | 1058012 Worker Bee
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But but but...Karl D says everything is fine!! And anyone who disagrees is a meany greeny!

 

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:56 | 1058189 Ray1968
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Yeah, I read Karl's piece. Nice to see he can use Google like the rest of us.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:04 | 1058230 Cursive
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Ha. Ha. I'm not a Karl D hater, but if he has taken this position, I nominate him to fly over there and straighten it out.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:12 | 1058292 stormsailor
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not a karl d hater either, he is a very bright man.  but not bright enough to know he doesn't know everything or the difference between what is and what should be. he does try hard.

me,foxy,karl and another guy learned to trade /es by practicing at night and charting for each other.  we had a lot of fun in 08 and 09 shorting the market.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:23 | 1058351 Worker Bee
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His "Its my ball and Ill take it home" thing he has going is a bit over the top

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:19 | 1058013 jerry_theking_lawler
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up next....reactor #5....

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:27 | 1058039 mynhair
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Now, that would be bad.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:17 | 1058304 Real Estate Geek
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Are they saying that the #4 reactor is a problem as well?

I thought that reactors 4, 5, & 6 were shut down cold for maintenance, and the "only" risk at each of those reactors was associated with the spent fuel storage.  And #4 storage had been on fire. 

WTF?

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:21 | 1058019 ZippyBananaPants
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I guess that they will do just what the did during the Toyota disaster, the government buys the stock, and now using some of the billions to buy the whole market/

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:21 | 1058025 gimli
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Where have I heard this before ---- Hmmmm -- Oh yeah! ..... BP plans to use chemical disperants in Gulf of Mexico.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:20 | 1058342 e_goldstein
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a little corexit, a lot of radiation, throw in a lizard and we may have created godzilla.

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:51 | 1058496 StychoKiller
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Thus spake a glowing Hypnotoad -- ALL Hail the Hypnotoad!

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:21 | 1058028 randocalrissian
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Welcome to the new reality series: "Atomic Cafe - Japan."

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:25 | 1058033 Widowmaker
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My question is who are the 50 heros at such risk assisting on the ground, and how do I get them a couple cold ones?

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:27 | 1058048 mynhair
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Dunno, tried over the Algorenet.

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