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TEPCO Provides Complete Fukushima Status Update And "Roadmap To Recovery"

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Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:01 | 1282986 Robslob
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If you provide the public with the truth then how can you effectively kill off excess...the excess is human beings in this scenario.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 12:25 | 1283374 jus_lite_reading
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MOTHERFUKKERS!!!!- "The Obama administration urged the Kan gov't to take steps to prevent further decline in TEPCO stock."

To hell with the people!!!! We care about the  stock price!!!!!!!!



Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:07 | 1283009 traderjoe
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"grave inconvenience"? wow, that's an understatement.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:30 | 1283118 ZackAttack
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I think that is just a translation error. What they actually meant to say was 'an inconvenient grave.'

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 12:22 | 1283363 BillyBoy22
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Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:39 | 1283646 Fiat2Zero
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As in the "inconvenience of digging your own grave"

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:40 | 1283654 Fiat2Zero
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Actually, when japanese use the word "grave" it means something like "truly fucking awful".

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:57 | 1283718 Use of Weapons
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Shikata Ga Nai

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:08 | 1283010 Cognitive Dissonance
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And so the farce continues. Two months later and what was clearly obvious to everyone except the ZH trolls and mentally deficient, that a catastrophic accident happened and the only truth we were getting was and would be that there would be no truth coming from any authority that couldn't be obscured, obstructed or hosed down with sea water first. But now, finally, we are getting the whole truth about the glorious way forward.

 "We will continue to make every endeavor to bring the situation under control."

They are, of course, talking about getting the public relations situation under control. Sorry folks, but TEPCO and the govts of Japan and even the USA have no, zero, nada, zilch credibility left. Try again.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:14 | 1283028 bob_dabolina
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They admitted they knew three reactors were melting down within one day of the event occurring.

How long did it take for them to raise this to level 7? I recall it being weeks....this also after a clear nuclear related explosion in reactor 3.

Now, the US is not releasing data on radiation levels; in air, veggies, or fish. And get this...with at least 3 reactors in full meltdown they declare the reason they are no longer releasing information to the public is because the situation is stabilizing and levels are going down. Give me a fucking break.

Oh, by the way, 2 Sieverts per hour were reported in one of the reactors....good luck with the clean up.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:19 | 1283059 cossack55
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Story on www.enenews.com about Obama admin influencing Kan to not report accurate info so as to not endanger TEPCO stock.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:39 | 1283661 Fiat2Zero
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+1 enenews. Great site. A little hyperbolic at times, but they get the good news snippets.

Also, what about our US counterparts explanation "we really didn't know what was going on - it was confusing." Nice try.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 12:16 | 1283338 Ckashan
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Tue, 05/17/2011 - 12:20 | 1283366 FriedEggs
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It seems like the BP oil spill all over again - one year later...

Remember the HUGE 80+ days-in-a-row oil spill in the Gulf...all the sheep have forgotten about it...and have almost forgotten about Japan...




Tue, 05/17/2011 - 21:23 | 1285580 Dirt Rat
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The BP oil spill is exactly TEPCO's model for handling its situation. With both incidents, I think there will come a time when everyone realizes that the environmental impacts are still there and were never mitigated. You can call me a tin-foil hat, but with Fukushima I expect a huge uptick around the world in birth defects in the next 1 to 2 years.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 12:25 | 1283386 jus_lite_reading
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"except for ZR trolls..." HEY CD! Speak for yourself!!! LOL

What really gets my goat is that they tried to stamp out so-called rumors that were really the truth!!!!!!

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 12:46 | 1283444 Cognitive Dissonance
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There was and is no doubt that a coordinated effort to suppress the truth was orchestrated by TEPCO and various other interested parties during the days and weeks after March 11, 2011. What wasn't so obvious was that this effort extended to web sites and blogs, the so-called Internet social media.

Those who spoke very loudly against anyone who posited that we were being lied to, saying we were being alarmists or rumor mongers or just plain dumb have been slowly backtracking since then or just plain disappeared. Those who frequent these sites and blogs know exactly who and what I am talking about.

This process is usually sub contracted out to corporate disinformation services for hire, a practice that was officially exposed when the Washington Post ran it's Top Secret America series where it discussed private contractor's roles in influencing public opinion.

What wasn't talked about much in the series, but was mentioned several times, was the practice of public and private companies hiring these subcontractors to troll the various blogs and web sites with a ready made/created cast of personalities and avatars ready to jump in and post 'opinions' on any matter that money can buy.


Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:01 | 1283487 trav7777
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yes, yes, and this paranoia led you to accuse various people as psyops who are so far from it that the mere mention is laughable

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:12 | 1283545 Cognitive Dissonance
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Nice of you to respond to my mention of ZH trolls and the mentally deficent.

But of course Trav, you always had the best interest of the nuclear industry at heart while you carried their water. Particularly in the first two weeks after the earthquake/tsunami, you hammered away with ad hominem attacks anyone who spoke out about offical government lying and/or pointed to obvious contradictions or obfuscations by the so called 'officials'.

Sure, sure, you provided enough disclaimers and hedges to cover your ass. But only the blind couldn't see what you were doing or what you are. A troll.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 15:42 | 1284307 Sock Puppet
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Here is Travs theme song, give it a listen, thanks akak.


Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:41 | 1283665 Fiat2Zero
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trav you landed in an obvious fucking troll trap!


Et Tu, trav?

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:00 | 1283492 serotonindumptruck
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It may be a somewhat broad generalization to label all the naysayers at ZH as paid disinfo agents. I believe some of them just like to debate any opposing views. Now that we have the benefit of hindsight, and know that many of our worst fears have been confirmed, it still is not sufficient justification to label all of them as paid trolls.

Just my opinion.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:09 | 1283514 Cognitive Dissonance
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Please point to where I "label all the naysayers at ZH as paid disinfo agents" or that I "label all of them as paid trolls".

I'll wait for you to do so before proceeding.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:18 | 1283569 serotonindumptruck
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I suppose without naming specific names or personalities, your post seemed to suggest that. My apologies for reading it differently.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:52 | 1283656 Cognitive Dissonance
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First no where in my post above discussing the coordinated attack do I mention Zero Hedge. I do say various blogs and web sites. Specifically I said.....

What wasn't so obvious was that this effort extended to web sites and blogs, the so-called Internet social media.

Second, I never say all in that post nor did I infer all. And I didn't say naysayers either but rather...

Those who spoke very loudly against anyone who posited that we were being lied to, saying we were being alarmists or rumor mongers or just plain dumb have been slowly backtracking since then or just plain disappeared.

I was discussing those who attacked people who claimed we were being lied to. Many people who defended the industry weren't defending the lies. There were only certain people who defended the official lies under the guise of chaos or a fluid situation or that the officials were doing the best that they can and so forth. And always they used invective and ad hominem attacks to do so. They used those two techniques together.

And it was done all over the web, not just on ZH. This is why I didn't narrow my comment to only ZH.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:55 | 1283722 serotonindumptruck
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Thank you for the clarification.

Actually, the issue that you brought up really isn't that important (to me anyway). It seemed like some kind of assignation of blame, even though I find the type of collusion you mentioned reprehensible.

I'll refrain from making such hasty conclusions in the future. 

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:52 | 1283712 Fiat2Zero
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It's true, but I'd also say people are naive if they don't think there are paid "opinion influencers" on ZH. You have them on fucking amazon.com for chrissakes.

ZH is no different.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:10 | 1283520 jus_lite_reading
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WOW! Thank you CD for that. I've always known about these paid shills who come here just to counter the truth but i didnt know there were actual subcontractors that do this! It shows almost anyone can be bought for a dollah....

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 14:55 | 1284066 Fiat2Zero
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We should contract Amazon.com's "Mechanical Turk" to counter robo and zings posts. Mechanical Turk is a service where you essentially email electronic work which is bid on and performed by people in places where the rate of pay is substantially lower than in the US.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:07 | 1283011 Use of Weapons
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My name is Elena. I run this website and I don't have anything to sell. What I do have is my motorbike and the absolute freedom to ride it wherever curiosity and the speed demon take me. This page is maintained by the author, but when internet traffic is heavy it may be down occasionally.



Her numberplate is "KIA" which is just pure brass.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:25 | 1283097 Cabbage_the_cat
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***Possibly Debunked***

 However, Chernobyl tour guide Yuri Tatarchuk claimed that Filatova "booked a tour, wore a leather biker jacket and posed for pictures.




Tue, 05/17/2011 - 12:25 | 1283375 Use of Weapons
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Um, yes. Her wiki page admits it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Filatova

Even Neil Gaiman has blogged about it being a hoax / exaggeration - the page/meme has been alive since before 2004. In internet terms, ancient ruins.

The juxtaposition was deliberate: TEPCO's version of what the future holds for Fukushima is comparable in terms of credibility. Aka, just like the 'girl on a bike' [<HINT> "KIA" <HINT>], they're spinning fairy tales to make reality a bit sweeter, a bit more livable. In the long run, the truth will out, the cynics will be proved right, a little bit of hope will die and the next generation will get exasperated by the older people's insistence on focusing on things that aren't important.





Note: $540,000 in funding, and I can't find any follow up - peer reviewed or otherwise. You do the math on that one: fraud or <Top Secret>? How does one test that for FDA approval anyhow?

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:08 | 1283017 Gert_B_Frobe
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What, no crates stenciled "Nuclear Power Plant Fixit Stuff" from Acme?

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:08 | 1283018 trav7777
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typical japanese response, apologize for inconvenience and anxiety...NOT actual harm

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:06 | 1283019 Guinny_Ire
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This is just the first draft in a series many many many.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:11 | 1283039 Ethics Gradient
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I missed the bit where they descrive how they're going to deal with a pool of molten fuel.

Come to think of it, I missed the bit where they described their mitigating actions.

Actually, on reflection, seems like bollocks to me.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:02 | 1283498 trav7777
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yes...pour in lead and tin if the corium temperature is below the melting point of sand, otherwise pour in all 3 plus some boron.

Crack open the cores and get them flowing into the pipes.

THEN you can entomb.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:17 | 1283554 serotonindumptruck
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Easier said than done, Trav.

At 2 Sieverts per hour, who in their right minds would volunteer for this work? Like Arnie Gundersen stated, it wouldn't be a slow death, it would be quick and ugly.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 13:53 | 1283694 Fiat2Zero
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The radiation has shot up from about 50 millis to 2 in a week. That's an increase of 40 times. It's not clear that this was measuring the exact same spot, so this might not be an accurate increase over time.

But 2 sieverts is starting to fall in the kill faster scenario. 1 sievert exposure for a few hours gives you cancer at a pretty high percentage rate, and makes you "feel nauseus". 4 sieverts will kill you pretty fast (not immediately, but I think you fall down and blood starts spurting out your nose).

So we're already past the point of getting people in to make the situation better, at least at one of the reactors.

So it's just going to get worse.

They're going to have to get super creative at this point.

Not sure how they'd crack the core of a 2 inch thick steel encasement if they can't get near enough to use a tool on it.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:17 | 1283050 fuu
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Fukushima will go down as the event where all government credibility jumped the shark. Anyone still trusting any governemnt employee to have their best interest at heart is a sucker victim waiting to be abused.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:20 | 1283071 NotApplicable
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But... but, they love me!

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 21:37 | 1285638 StychoKiller
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Mo'ammar!  Long time no see!  How's the disgruntled employees thing going?

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:25 | 1283060 strannick
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The collective obedient stupidity of the Japanese people in this instance is proving detrimental to the world in the form of radioactive rain.

I presume #$%#ing Tepco hopes to save some bucks and save some face by eventually salvaging this shitshow, when they should be burying in concrete.

Japan now falls behind the Soviet Union for humanitarianism and enviromental stewardship

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:29 | 1283107 Juice Box
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Sounds a lot like Dr Evil's "Project Vulcan" in the Austin Powers movie.  Next thing you know, the Japanese will be extorting us for One Million Dollars!  Let's hope we can pay with paper and not PM's.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:35 | 1283147 sschu
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Not making apologizes, but not sure what can be done about this situation right now.  They cannot get close to the reactor vessels.  The containment buildings are leaking, water for sure, maybe molten fuel.  So they have no real way to stop the reaction and cool it down. 

The amount of water already sprayed that needs to be "decontaminated" is staggering.  Unit 4 could collapse with hundreds of tons of spent fuel sitting there.  Entombment is a non-starter until temperatures go down.  Build a big tent to hide the shame, classic response.

What happens if we get another 8.0 aftershock?

It will be years before any real progress is made, Tepco and the Japanese government must know this.  Who wants to deliver this news to the people?

I hope I am wrong, but this will go on for years.





Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:56 | 1283236 pazmaker
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Not making apologizes, but not sure what can be done about this situation right now



Not Sure?  I know your referring to the clean up, but how about they could have been honest with the people and evacuate at a greater radius then 20KM?  Do you realize they are just now evacuating further out?  Take a look at this article.....by the way some of the farmers aren't evacuating yet because they need space for their cattle!!!   Really????  Them there cows are useless now!!!  Kill them out of mercy and run like hell to get out of there!



Tue, 05/17/2011 - 14:41 | 1283992 sschu
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You are correct, Tepco etal has been criminally negligent in not telling us the truth.  Punish them severely.  If that makes you feel good, so be it. 

That is not the point of my post, however.  This punishment changes very little about the problems at the site, they still remain.  Thanks for highlighting my point.


Tue, 05/17/2011 - 14:58 | 1284086 Fiat2Zero
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How about notify the people in 20KM that the plutonium spent fuel was vaporized in the reactor number 3 explosion.

A tiny bit of plutonium gives you cancer. It's been found far from the reactor.

Fairwinds shows a compelling side-by-side video to show that the hydrogen explosions were 100s of times less violent than #3 (which they claim exploded due to "prompt criticality").

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:36 | 1283151 Fix It Again Timmy
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Trumpets blare, now a drum roll, now the message you must never forget:

“Every government is run by liars,” independent journalist I.F. Stone observed, “and nothing they say should be believed.”

Repeat after me....

“Every government is run by liars,” independent journalist I.F. Stone observed, “and nothing they say should be believed.”

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:53 | 1283219 glenlloyd
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If I bothered to read the rubbish Tepco puts out for public consumption....it would be at least an hour of my life I would never get back.

So...since all they seem to be concerned with is apologizing for the inconvenience of having been caught in their own blundering...by literally everyone, I'm not reading none of it cuz it's all just a bunch of lies and fabrications.

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