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TEPCO Releases First Robot-Captured Video From Inside Reactors 2 And 3

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Now that TEPCO has finally procured some iRobots (with about a one month delay) with freaking webcams attached to their heads it has released the following stunning footage from inside Reactors 3 and 2, showing the situation in the only reactor which has plutonium as well as one of the reactors to have experienced an explosion. While we doubt the validity of the data, according to IDG the radioactivity level in Reactor 3 is 57 millisieverts/hour. In reactor 2 the radioactivity is disclosed as being too high for workers to enter.

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Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:32 | 1188935 Silver Bug
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Hmmm, can't really trust these guys at all anymore. Meanwhile, looks like JP Morgan just hammered the price of Silver.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:41 | 1188968 SheepDog-One
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JPM will lose. Soon.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:30 | 1189514 Fish Gone Bad
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The skull and cross bones that appear at 0:28 in the lower right tell you all you need to know.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:51 | 1189023 jus_lite_reading
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Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:53 | 1189040 Sock Puppet
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Paging TRAV7777

Paging TRAV777


We need your Nuclear Sock Puppet Expertise stat.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:14 | 1189142 jus_lite_reading
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He drank the radioactive rainwater and is now in a coma..... i knew that when radiation was found in human breast milk it was as bad a chernobyl and getting worse because of its location!!! GAME OVER FOLKS!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 23:21 | 1191039 Element
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by trav7777
on Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:58

when the fuck did I ever say all was well?

I simply said stop being fucking hysterical and stop the paranoia.

Shit is most certainly not all well...the most negative outcome now revolves around spent fuel.  As it boils off its water pool, it becomes exposed and this DRAMATICALLY increases the amount of radiation at the plant complex, making it impossible for humans to work there.

They simply have to keep this shit underwater to have a prayer here.  Absent that, they have to allow all cores to meltdown and all fuel rods to melt down (which will actually help disperse heat) but prevent a zirconium fire at ALL costs.

A major fire or explosion will place core elements airborne, which is starts to get into the Chernobyl range of outcomes

    flag as junk (8)



Given this is what he really said, what's with the on-going character-assasination and trolling BS?

That's the position Trav7777 stated 4 days after this nuclear emergency started.

There were actually quite few people who stated similar things before him, and he was in fact correct, in most regards, throughout this.

'Sushi' was aother zh-er who got it spot-on, almost immediately that the reactors blew.

The content of what trav actually said, in the wake of that, is substantially different from the perception people now troll-out about it based on how he said it.

And in that resect, he did indeed screw the pooch.

But that's another matter entirely - so quit the rediculous trolling and BS-athon.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:33 | 1188937 Erra
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Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:29 | 1189512 avonaltendorf
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Wow nothing. The radiation counter was strapped to Robot A, no telemetry, so the camera on Robot B was pointed at it to "read" the display. Hokey fucking bullshit par excellence. Human workers had to open doors for robots to enter electrical rooms, not reactor floors - to do what? - Public Relations Photo Op sightseeing.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:35 | 1189557 Ident 7777 economy
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Wow nothing. The radiation counter was strapped to Robot A, no telemetry, 

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  There may be a market here for mission specific equpment here; obviously, they are going for 'light and cheap' here using COTS (commercial of-the-shelf) gear ad hoc'd ...


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:41 | 1188938 bob_dabolina
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"Radiation levels of “several dozens of sieverts” possible near No. 2 reactor"

lol...several dozen

Could that be 10 or 20? As in 10 or 20 dozen sieverts.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:53 | 1189649 slewie the pi-rat
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sieverts?  that's not about the NGas, is it???  LOL!

i watched arnie, yest, and he thinks #3 is not too raging outa control.  maybe they could start the entombment there, fairly soon...???  who knows???

what the hell happened to the putzmeisters?  stuttgart wants to be paid in gold to ship?  france decided to use them against moQ in libya?  what has the UN done, now? 

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 04:02 | 1191554 steveo
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They are in Wisconsin, and the union leaders want overtime and more bene's before they ship them.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 22:35 | 1190945 goldfish1
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Agency admits 'melting' of N-fuel

The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency has reported to a Cabinet Office safety panel that nuclear fuel pellets in the Nos. 1 to 3 reactors at the quake-hit Fukushima power station are believed to have partially melted.

The report was the first time the agency, an organ of the Economy, Trade and Industry Ministry, has acknowledged that nuclear fuel has melted at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant.

Hidehiko Nishiyama, a spokesman for the agency, told a press conference Monday about the agency's report to the Nuclear Safety Commission. The agency had previously only described the nuclear fuel as having been at least 3 percent "damaged."

According to Nishiyama, damage to reactors can be described in three phases of increasing severity. In the first phase of initial damage to a reactor's core, the metallic casing surrounding the fuel pellets are damaged but the pellets remain intact. The second phase involves some melting of nuclear fuel. In the third phase, what is known as a meltdown, all the fuel pellets melt and accumulate at the bottom of the containment vessel.

The agency said it now believes the fuel pallets have melted because of the high levels of radiation detected at the Nos. 2 and 3 reactors. Melting fuel pellets also likely led to a hydrogen explosion at the No. 1 reactor, Nishiyama said.

Tokyo Electric Power Co., the operator of the crippled plant, has said the cores of the Nos. 1 to 3 reactors have been damaged by 25 percent to 70 percent. But the agency emphasized that these figures are only estimates.

"We can't say for sure about how much has melted until the rods are actually taken out," Nishiyama said.

(Apr. 20, 2011)

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:36 | 1188942 theopco
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iRobot rules

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:41 | 1188964 TheGreatPonzi
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Sorry if I don't share your enthusiasm, but the 'Packbot' I've seen on the capture struck me as particularly weak, slow and unadvanced. A radio-controlled kid toy could have done the same thing. 

Is this the best the US can do in 2011? 

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:57 | 1189046 Diogenes
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The scary part is it is better than Japan can do in 2011.

Bomb disposal robots = made to be blown up = cheap.

Or in this case made to be disposed of and left in the building when they get radioactive and the batteries run down.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:20 | 1189176 VogonPoet
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seriously. an Iphone camera is better, what is that a VHS recorder from 1977?

but no, thats not the best the US can do, Boston Dynamics is:

and they're pretty damn awesome.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:30 | 1189518 Ident 7777 economy
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seriously. an Iphone camera is better, what is that a VHS recorder from 1977?

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A screen shot by a camera off a laptop LCD screen.

Didn't watch the video? Was explained by a talking head ...

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:18 | 1189775 Odd Ball
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The robots in these videos have 6' articulating arms that get the cameras up at normal human height.  Running two robots is smart since the second robot can help the operator of the lead robot avoid trouble.  It makes sense not to waste time integrating the data-streams from the rad sensors when they can just read them with cameras.  A kid's RC car could flip on the first ceiling tile.  Then you'd get a neat angled view of the floor while it spun it's little wheels in the air.  Of course an RC car would be disposable, so perhaps you do have a point.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 04:00 | 1191553 steveo
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5 trillion dollars pales in comparison to the long term human damage that will occur over a century or two.    maybe even 500 trillion pales.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 23:05 | 1191035 gmj
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We will not get a look at "the best the US can do".  

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:37 | 1188943 Gully Foyle
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Robots face difficulties at Fukushima plant

Tokyo Electric Power Company says radioactive debris and high humidity are hampering the investigation by robots at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

The company began using remote-controlled robots to explore the first three reactor buildings on Sunday and Monday.

At the Number 2 reactor building, the robot's camera lens was instantly clouded by high humidity.

TEPCO officials think that the steam is coming from the damaged section of the reactor's suppression pool.
But they have not found a way to resolve the problem as the steam could be highly toxic.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:49 | 1189004 redpill
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COULD be highly toxic?  Well no shit sherlock, it's leaking straight out of the reactor.  These guys never admit anything!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:57 | 1189062 jus_lite_reading
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DENY DENY DENY.... LIE LIE LIE... thats all they do. The end of them is near. Mad max world is coming because of their lies.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:09 | 1189427 redpill
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And what they still haven't admitted is Reactor 2 is still dry and melting, containment is breached and they have no fucking clue what to do about it.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:30 | 1189532 avonaltendorf
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Correct. Every drop of water they pump into 2 immediately leaks out loaded with radionuclides.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:39 | 1188967 hedgeless_horseman
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Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:40 | 1188973 SheepDog-One
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Awesome-O 3000

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:01 | 1189069 redpill
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Maybe the Japanese will start making robots that actually do something useful now.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:50 | 1189621 Logans_Run
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In my book mixing and serving a martini is quite useful!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 19:04 | 1190326 HedgeCock
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What about the robot that can play the violin?  At least someone very bright thought of covering string catastrophes if the need arises.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:43 | 1188979 HK
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Arnie Gundersen discusses the current condition of the reactors:

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:12 | 1189128 idou
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This totally vindicates Tyler's "Uncontrolled, Open Air Fission Process" in unit 4 post on 4/13. Some doubted fission was occuring in the unit 4 pool and probably owe Tyler an apology at this point (hopefully in the form of a Fukushima plant water "Kanpai" with Mr. Kan). If you are not an expert, stop trying to act like one (MSimon, I am looking at you). 


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:31 | 1189523 Ident 7777 economy
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This totally vindicates Tyler's "Uncontrolled, Open Air Fission Process"

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Sure does; absent a 'moderator' even?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 17:24 | 1190036 idou
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Moderator =  water?

Commonly used moderators include regular (light) water (roughly 75% of the world's reactors), solid graphite (20% of reactors) and heavy water (5% of reactors).

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 17:29 | 1190054 Ident 7777 economy
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Right; now you've got it ...

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:41 | 1188983 buzzsaw99
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50 mSv my ass.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:43 | 1188984 Cognitive Dissonance
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Yeah, but when they get that high voltage line brought in and hooked up they'll be able to get the cooling pumps back on line and all will be fixed.....right? Oops, sorry about that. I'm reading from a 3 week old company media playbook.

Hey, who's got the latest bullshit propaganda handy?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:43 | 1188994 bob_dabolina
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A citizen’s group concerned about the impact on mothers and babies of the radioactive leaks from a crippled nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture said Wednesday that small amounts of radioactive iodine have been found in the breast milk of four women living east or northeast of Tokyo.

Of the samples provided by the four women, the breast milk of the mother of an 8-month-old baby in Kashiwa, Chiba Prefecture, contained the highest level of 36.3 becquerels [27 picoCuries = 1 becquerel] of radioactive iodine per kilogram, but no radioactive cesium was found, the group said. …

No's a small amount, from a small leak. This will be wrapped up in a jiffy.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:48 | 1189014 Cognitive Dissonance
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No's a small amount, from a small leak. This will be wrapped up in a jiffy.

Could you be more specific? Is it milk from the breast(s) or radiation from the reactors that's leaking?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:50 | 1189031 bob_dabolina
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same diff, no diff


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:57 | 1189057 Cognitive Dissonance
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Now I get it. There is radioactive milk leaking from the breast(s) and Tepco will start pumping tomorrow.

Roger that bob. Roger that.

Do you have any feedback from the mother or have her breasts been deemed a national security matter, thus they are no longer her breasts or her concern? Any word on when these hazardous waste dumps will be removed and will the mother be fined or jailed for unsafe storage of radioactive material?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:01 | 1189064 bob_dabolina
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I'm hearing reports that the leaking breasts in question are Lynn Tiltons.

As long as you promise not to cum in her mouth (and she believes it) the situation should be resolved in the next 9 months.


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:11 | 1189112 Cognitive Dissonance
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BTW where's Trav7777 to update us on this latest video?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:25 | 1189201 bob_dabolina
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My name is trav7777. I am a survivor living in New York City. I am broadcasting on all AM frequencies. I will be at the South Street Seaport Cyber Cigar Coffee Bar everyday at mid-day, when the sun is highest in the sky. If any moonbats are out there... if any NWO pigeon watchers are out there... I can provide food, I can provide shelter, I can provide security. If there's anybody out there... anybody... please. You are not alone.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:53 | 1189638 trav7777
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it's nice to be popular.

the world hasn't ended yet...everyone in Tokyo is not "dead or evacuated," and it's like 3+ weeks since that prediction.


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:04 | 1189680 slewie the pi-rat
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remember!  once the leaky radioactive breast milk is pumped, it must be poured into the sea!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:16 | 1189778 bob_dabolina
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I never made that prediction. But ok, I wouldn't want to argue with someone so popular.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:52 | 1189913 tmosley
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Uhh, yeah, because the water is back on, punk.

You need to learn to stop mischaracterizing people's comments.  It's habits like that that have everyone mocking you in all of these threads.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 20:12 | 1190544 trav7777
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the water was never OFF, Claven!  And there was no berlin airlift of bottles either.

Being mocked by cretins is hardly worth worrying over

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 22:43 | 1190970 StychoKiller
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From Al-Jazeera:

Japan mulls 'caution zones' around Fukushima


Caution Zones = ++good!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 18:11 | 1190209 Landrew
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 18:21 | 1190238 Cognitive Dissonance
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Can I use my iPhone4? :>)

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 18:46 | 1190327 Landrew
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Sorry, the Iphone which I did try does not have a 15 sec. exposure capability. The Iphone does not have a shutter, the ccd is turned on and off. There is a nice histogram for pixel count available in a firmware hack. I wasn't able to find a raw pixel data file to run or a hack to install. The video was shot with an Iphone the day the reactors blew up. When I saw cesium 137 in the air ( I use this source) I knew they had uncontrolled fission.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 23:15 | 1191074 gmj
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What happens if radiation strikes the CCD device inside the camera?  Does it create artifacts in the stored image?  Does it damage the CCD?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:50 | 1188988 mirac
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I thought iRobot was an Alan Parsons album...meanwhile they are irradiating us.  It's getting surreal.  Forget Gold.  Get LSD

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:46 | 1188997 MGA_1
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Roomba to clean up the waste?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:14 | 1189127 Overpowered By Funk
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I think they need Gort - Klaatu Barada Nikto ASAP!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 23:22 | 1191096 gmj
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I strongly recommend that Gort and Klaatu should not be invited to Earth until we, err, clean things up a bit.  You know how emotional robots are.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:00 | 1189013 The Heart
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Watched this interview last night when it was live. Listen to this man closely as he stumbles through. It seems this interview was longer and some of it may have been edited.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:52 | 1189045 Commander Cody
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The cleanup will be slow and tedious.  Anyone thinking this will be resolved in a jiffy is full of shit.  And while it goes on, there will be continued release of radioactive material.  It may come to the point when humans will not be able to get near the damaged units due to high radiation and contamination.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:59 | 1189073 Diogenes
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It will never be resolved. People will die from this by the thousands. Hundreds of years from now it will be an unresolved problem but in a few weeks the media will move on and everyone will forget about it except for the poor suckers who live near it. They will get a quick cheap patch up job and a pat on the back from the government and then, the hell with them.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:01 | 1189075 flattrader
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And the lying and obfuscation with be thick making it damn near impossible to tell what is going on there and here.

Is one Cesium 137 Model too scary?  Then substitute it for another!  Hopefully, no one will notice…until they do notice.

Don’t like the “safe”radiation limits established?  Just raise them! And continue the “happy talk”.

Did they catch you lying or bribing the mainstream press and you don’t like what the independent press is saying?  Threaten censorship!  And erase the information from websites.


The government charges that the damage caused by earthquakes and by the nuclear accident are being magnified by irresponsible rumors, and the government must take action for the sake of the public good. The project team has begun to send “letters of request” to such organizations as telephone companies, internet providers, cable television stations, and others, demanding that they “take adequate measures based on the guidelines in response to illegal information. ”The measures include erasing any information from internet sites that the authorities deem harmful to public order and morality.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 03:52 | 1191544 steveo
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Dude it is already past that point,

too bad this ain't russia like country and they can just send 600,000 to their slow death, shoveling rad with blue jeans on, into wheelbarrows.   J/k

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:16 | 1189139 Piranhanoia
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Clean up is not a viable option. They get to create an island of cement large and viscous enough to survive the next shocks, for 24K years.  4D 

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:16 | 1189143 williambanzai7
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Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:24 | 1189208 Cognitive Dissonance
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So that's where Trav7777 has been hiding the last few weeks. See, no dangerous radiation there. He looks fit as a fiddle.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:54 | 1189645 trav7777
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bitch, I haven't been hiding...

but it's good to see that I'm always on your mind...

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 17:05 | 1189952 Cognitive Dissonance
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That's Mr. Bitch to you.......Douchebag. With love and kisses.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 17:47 | 1190118 Ident 7777 economy
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In the living memory of others ... priceless ...

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 20:55 | 1190653 Landrew
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CD, to funny!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 23:29 | 1191106 Element
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Cog, WTF are you doing?

You're just acting like a troll, and adding nothing of value, quit it.

You may not 'like' him/it, but stick to the facts and contents huh, I'm sick of this sort of shit in every thread/post, and now you're just fanning this crap?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:15 | 1189149 Zardinuk
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What they need is a giant robot that can pick up a nuclear core and then blast off into outer space, like in Robot Jox.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 22:49 | 1190979 StychoKiller
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Paging Gigantor™ or the Voltron Force™ -- to Japan, stat!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:20 | 1189167 Monetative Easing
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Nobody cares.  Stocks are roaring higher as the tech sector is en fuego.  Earnings reports are absolutely glowing!

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 03:51 | 1191541 steveo
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Nice glowing reference.....ouch

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:21 | 1189180 TruthInSunshine
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Yeah, they should have this resolved in 6 to 9 months...

Also, Tokyo with its population larger than New York City won't be significantly impacted by this. Nor will people in China, Korea, Canada or everywhere else, for that matter.

The groundwater, tapwater, air, rain - all good.

A few laborers in there to clean the place up and pour a few bottles of this into each containment vessel and everything will be right as rain:

Bar's Leaks PLT-11 11oz. Heavy Duty Radiator Stop Leak

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:02 | 1189386 10kby2k
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6 to 9 months means 2 years.

guess the world is accepting that our vast oceans can dissipate 1 huge nuclear catastrophy with measured casualties and the more localized higher frequency casualites are the problem of the host country.....of which the areas the exposure will affect most intensely are already physically ravaged and ten of thousands have already perished by what can be seen. 

or the US can contribute a half a trillion dollars (my estimation) to clean this thing up as safely and quickly as possible.....with state of the art technologies and expensive equipment (i.e. nasa space suits).  the $$$ cost to reduce exposure is too high.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:32 | 1189540 Ident 7777 economy
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The groundwater ...

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'The groundwater' - it's always the damned 'groundwater' ...


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:24 | 1189204 Zymurguy
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Sort of sad to think these robots might never leave the plant.


RIP good 'bots.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:29 | 1189227 redpill
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Yes I'm pretty sure this was a one way ticket.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:36 | 1189281 Cognitive Dissonance
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I want to know which human will wipe the fog and dirt from the camera lens after iRobot has been radiated?

If the concrete pumpers they shipped to the Fukushima site will never return to civilization because they will have been too radiated how is anyone supposed to handle these robots between missions?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:37 | 1189285 redpill
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They designed the robot to have so many capabilities.  Too bad they didn't think of including a windshield wiper.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:52 | 1189347 krispkritter
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Damn skippy! I got a plastic pair of clown glasses with wipers on them. cost $2.99. Even have a plastic clown flower that can squirt water on those reactors. But then it looks like they have enough clowns running the show already...

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 18:03 | 1189594 Cognitive Dissonance
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Should be easy enough to slip these on the iRobot. Of course then the iRobot will be too embarrased to ever come back out of the reactor building. It's a one shot deal folks. :>)


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 18:32 | 1190271 Ident 7777 economy
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 Too bad they didn't think of including a windshield wiper.

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I think the only COTS gear suitable for 100% RH (relative humidity) operation (think: Steam Bath) might be under-water rated as well ... certainly bomb disposal robots are not 100% RH rated ...

It would be a little tough to design a 'wiper' system for a CMOS sensor when your entire robot is not hermetically sealed.




Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:44 | 1189603 franzpick
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The one from the MOX plant in S. Carolina has remote-controls, as probably does the similiar one from Sacramento, and maybe the 2 others from S. Vietnam.

These 4 pumpers weren't loaned or leased: they were sold, never to return, and the previous owners presumably have orders in for new replacements from Putzmeister USA/Wisc., or from Germany.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 23:27 | 1191120 gmj
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If it's humidity and not droplets, just heat up the optical surfaces to above the dew point.  Presto, no condensation.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:28 | 1189216 Thunder Dome
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Uranium kicks ass!


Silver is trash.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:05 | 1189260 Zero Govt
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iRobot is impressive about iRetards in iGovt and iTepco go to iJail ...when does iJustice start?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:39 | 1189566 Ident 7777 economy
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No problem; the prototypes already exist - in the form of the iRS ...

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:03 | 1189689 viahj
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well.... iNever

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:52 | 1189346 bob_dabolina
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Well look at this...

And my earlier comment about 10-20 dozens of sieverts was spot on and I was just being facetious

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:55 | 1189363 CHARLIE.DONT.SERF

Dr. Helen Caldicott, a renowned anti-nuclear activist, describes what really happened at Fukushima and tells us all we might as well kiss our asses good bye.

She also mentions the depleted uranium that the coalition of the willing is using in mesopotamia.  Birth defects are through the roof around Falujah.

Perhaps the plan to cull 90% of the population is a long term one.



Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:30 | 1189507 Ident 7777 economy
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She also mentions the depleted uranium ...

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Lumping that in with Fukushima - makes the WHOLE report 'credible' ... and agenda driven ...

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:40 | 1189569 CHARLIE.DONT.SERF

Perhaps you will find the paper published in a medical journal to be more credible:

Here is the Guardian reporting on the increase in birth defects.

Not sure why lumping the use of depleted uranium in Iraq to the Fukushima disaster a problem.  Both are examples of sources of radiation.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:47 | 1189597 Ident 7777 economy
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Perhaps you will find the paper published in a medical journal to be more credible:

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That's not my argument; my point is, address one issue at a time rather than ride every hobby horse in your stable ... like activists are prone to do ... at some point one starts to look like an alarmist nut. Some ppl don't buy into the DU 'story'.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:06 | 1189692 CHARLIE.DONT.SERF

I understand your point, but got a chuckle out of hearing someone on zerohedge concerned about someone else being called an alarmist nut.  

It seems to me that's a bit like Evil Knievel telling Travis Pastrana to tone himself down.


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:53 | 1189917 NotApplicable
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One issue? That's exactly what she did. The issue is internal radioactive contamination.

The rest of your life will be spent in an effort to avoid it.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 17:48 | 1190112 Ident 7777 economy
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... and the hobby horse she road in on ...


Depleted uranium (DU) is uranium primarily composed of the isotope uranium-238 (U-238).

Natural uranium is about 99.27% U-238, 0.72% U-235, and 0.0055% U-234. U-235 is used for fission in nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons. Uranium is enriched in U-235 by separating the isotopes by mass.

The byproduct of enrichment, called depleted uranium or DU, contains less than one third as much U-235 and U-234 as natural uranium.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 05:48 | 1191620 BigJim
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Well, you really don't want to hang around 'natural uranium' much either.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:10 | 1189423 Crack-up Boom
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Why did it take so long to get a robot inside?  You';d think TEPCO would have tried that a while ago. 

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:52 | 1189636 Ident 7777 economy
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Video of the operators going in was never released? Or made in the first place?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 18:16 | 1190173 Zero Govt
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it took so long to get the robot inside because there was no Plan A or Plan B, so they got a fire engine in, then a Heli' and now a robot ....we're still waiting for an effective solution rather than pissing on the problem and looking at the problem

..any similarity between the Jap Govt, Tepco, the Nuclear Industry and Ronald McDonald after 7 bottles of Vodka is pure coincidence

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 18:24 | 1190244 Ident 7777 economy
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it took so long to get the robot inside because there was no Plan A or Plan B, so they got a ...

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In dispute is when entry was first made; trained Health Physics personnel can watch a suitable rad meter and determine limits of exposure, and we simply don't know what sort of 'quick trips' were made into the buildings by personnel prior to the present exploration with robots ...

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 19:35 | 1190460 avonaltendorf
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Default presumption none.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 20:09 | 1190534 Ident 7777 economy
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Without having been on the ground, working with personnel on scene, or debriefed with said personnel afterwards, how do you make such a definitive statement? Are you TEPCO affiliated?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:21 | 1189469 sundown333
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Too bad this didn'y happen in China. They would be all over the news bragging about using everything from Walmart to clean up the mess!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:54 | 1189643 Ident 7777 economy
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Cheap shot ... (get it?) 'Cheap' shot.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:32 | 1189526 UncleFurker
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Have you bought your house in the southern hemisphere yet?

Better get down there before countries start denying entry to radioactive material carriers.


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:40 | 1189568 hedgeless_horseman
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There Is Still Time . . . Brother.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:37 | 1189561 Revolution_star...
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"TEPCO Releases First Robot-Captured Video From Inside Reactors 2 And 3"

So Japan has captured 2 robots inside the nuke plant and video tapes the release one of them? I got to start actually reading these stories...

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:42 | 1189591 sundown333
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Oh, did I mention that there is nothing to see here and everything is under control?


Ha Ha

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:56 | 1189656 trav7777
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I've read all the headlines and nobody ever, EXCEPT YOU, has claimed that.

You idiots make me laugh...a lot

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:05 | 1189690 ml8ml8
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Are those robots usable now that they've been exposed to that radiation or do they become radioactive and unusable?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 18:14 | 1190208 Zero Govt
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the robots are now radioactive but 'passed' to work processing Japans 'glowing' food supply

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:10 | 1189746 Bagbalm
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Maybe after a long enough exposure (And culling deaths) humans will develope a need for radiation like they have a need for vitamin C. Then we will dispose of nuke waste by putting it in the water supply just like fluorides...

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:23 | 1189804 SuperRay
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Hi Kids

It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, a beautiful day for a neighbor...would you be, could you be...MY NEIGHBOR! (just ignore the radiation...)




Mister Rogers will bet every fucking PM in his grubby little hands that this whole neighborhood will meltdown in the next two weeks...bbbbyyyyyeeee

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:32 | 1189843 majia
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Summary of Calidcott's comments about Fukushima

There have been 3 hydrogen explosions
2 cooling pools are dry and burning because the casing for pellets burns when exposed to air
Each cooling pool has 10 to 20 times as much radiation as in the reactors
In each reactor core is 1000 times as much long lived radiation as produced by the Hiroshima bomb
1 millionth of gram of Plutonium will give you cancer if inhaled
There are 250 kilograms of Plutonium in each reactor (only 2.5 kilograms needed to make a bomb)
Plutonium is escaping into the atmosphere

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 17:53 | 1190132 Ident 7777 economy
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Peacenik -

Helen Mary Caldicott (born 7 August 1938) is an Australian physician, author, and anti-nuclear advocate who has founded several associations dedicated to opposing the use of depleted uranium munitions, nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons proliferation, war and military action in general.

in 1980, she founded the Women's Action for Nuclear Disarmament (WAND) in the United States, which was later renamed Women's Action for New Directions. It is a group dedicated to reducing or redirecting government spending away from nuclear energy use towards what the group perceives as unmet social issues.

During her time in the United States from 1977 to 1986, Caldicott was involved with Physicians for Social Responsibility (founded originally in 1961), an organization of 23,000 doctors committed to educating others on what they claimed were the dangers of nuclear energy. She also worked abroad to establish similar groups that focused on education about what she said were risks of nuclear energy, nuclear weapons and nuclear war. One such international group (International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War) was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1985. She herself received the Humanist of the Year award from the American Humanist Association in 1982.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:37 | 1189855 majia
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Summary of Calidcott's comments about Fukushima

There have been 3 hydrogen explosions
2 cooling pools are dry and burning because the casing for pellets burns when exposed to air
Each cooling pool has 10 to 20 times as much radiation as in the reactors
In each reactor core is 1000 times as much long lived radiation as produced by the Hiroshima bomb
1 millionth of gram of Plutonium will give you cancer if inhaled
There are 250 kilograms of Plutonium in each reactor (only 2.5 kilograms needed to make a bomb)
Plutonium is escaping into the atmosphere

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 17:51 | 1190134 Ident 7777 economy
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Helen Mary Caldicott (born 7 August 1938) is an Australian physician, author, and anti-nuclear advocate who has founded several associations dedicated to opposing the use of depleted uranium munitions, nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons proliferation, war and military action in general.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 19:42 | 1190476 avonaltendorf
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ad hominem?

She has most of the facts right. Pu was released or sprayed by hydrogen explosions (esp. Unit #3 with its 1000-ft vertical column of black ash and falling debris). 

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 20:10 | 1190527 Ident 7777 economy
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She has most of the facts right.

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That means, she has some of the facts wrong.

Which facts are wrong, one wonders ... the core, critical facts? Or, tangential facts?

BTW, #3 did have a 1000' vertical ascension of a 'black cloud', we all saw it, the  composition unknown, and from which obvious debris fell back to earth.


Have you come up with which facts she has wrong yet?

I would not trust her numbers, given her explicitly stated agenda, motives and desired outcome unless I had the chance to audit them 100%.

You, I suppose, might give them a cursory overview then 'buy off' (rubber stamp/approve) them? But then, I am not a greenie nor do I tend to rubber stamp the work of others which might be suspect ... it must be proven, verified and documented.



Thu, 04/21/2011 - 05:40 | 1191624 BigJim
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Perhaps if TEPCO and the Japanese government could be trusted to tell us what's actually going on, we'd have a better idea of which facts she has wrong (if any).

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 20:20 | 1190561 Ident 7777 economy
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Speaking of Physicians for Social Responsibility (of which Helen is a member):

"Useful Idiots: How Liberals Got It Wrong in the Cold War and Still Blame America First"


Thu, 04/21/2011 - 05:46 | 1191630 BigJim
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(Briefly) examining the synopsis, and other internet discussions concerning that book, Helen Caldicott appears not to be mentioned in it.

Is this an attempt to damn by association?


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 17:38 | 1190082 onlooker
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It becomes CLEAR that because robots are used in Space Exploration and by the Military, that they must be skillfully engineered, tested, and function without failure (lens fog not included).


Nuclear power plants, on the other hand, can be built on the beach and work till they fail. Then they are handy to fix cause they are not out in space or in combat conditions.


This is a tribute to man’s engineering skills. Yes we can.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 19:10 | 1190390 Buck Johnson
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They made sure not to show us the video of the camera pointed at the radiation detector. 

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 20:27 | 1190582 Whoa Dammit
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They also didn't show us the part where Charlton Heston finds what is left of the Statue of Liberty. ;-).

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 01:13 | 1191327 Aulieude
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Now THAT is funny!

also not...

cos that scene scared the beejeezus out of me when I was a wee lass...

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 20:31 | 1190583 Whoa Dammit
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Wed, 04/20/2011 - 20:48 | 1190627 Drag Racer
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Monday night, Tepco said it detected high radioactivity coming from the spent fuel pool of the No. 2 unit, indicating that either the fuel rods in the pool were damaged or steam containing radioactive materials that rose from the reactor dissolved in the pool water.

Some 160,000 becquerels per cubic cm of cesium-134, 150,000 becquerels of cesium-137 and 4,100 becquerels of radioactive iodine-131 were detected in a water sample extracted from the storing pool on Saturday.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 20:58 | 1190661 Drag Racer
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Nuke workers at risk of overwork death

Ya, thats it 'overwork'. Now we know what killed all those first responders at Chernobyl, they just worked too hard. Geez, take a break guys.

If these guys start dropping off and they blame it on 'overwork', that would be beyond dishonour. The old saying death before dishonour would have a new meaning. Hey. it could be Tepco's new slogan... ya

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 01:17 | 1191332 Aulieude
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Ahh the gentle art of Karoshi


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