TEPCO Releases First Robot-Captured Video From Inside Reactors 2 And 3

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Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:32 | 1188935 Silver Bug
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Hmmm, can't really trust these guys at all anymore. Meanwhile, looks like JP Morgan just hammered the price of Silver.



Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:41 | 1188968 SheepDog-One
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JPM will lose. Soon.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:30 | 1189514 Fish Gone Bad
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The skull and cross bones that appear at 0:28 in the lower right tell you all you need to know.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:51 | 1189023 jus_lite_reading
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Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:53 | 1189040 Sock Puppet
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Paging TRAV7777

Paging TRAV777


We need your Nuclear Sock Puppet Expertise stat.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:14 | 1189142 jus_lite_reading
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He drank the radioactive rainwater and is now in a coma..... i knew that when radiation was found in human breast milk it was as bad a chernobyl and getting worse because of its location!!! GAME OVER FOLKS!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 23:21 | 1191039 Element
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by trav7777
on Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:58

when the fuck did I ever say all was well?

I simply said stop being fucking hysterical and stop the paranoia.

Shit is most certainly not all well...the most negative outcome now revolves around spent fuel.  As it boils off its water pool, it becomes exposed and this DRAMATICALLY increases the amount of radiation at the plant complex, making it impossible for humans to work there.

They simply have to keep this shit underwater to have a prayer here.  Absent that, they have to allow all cores to meltdown and all fuel rods to melt down (which will actually help disperse heat) but prevent a zirconium fire at ALL costs.

A major fire or explosion will place core elements airborne, which is starts to get into the Chernobyl range of outcomes

    flag as junk (8)




Given this is what he really said, what's with the on-going character-assasination and trolling BS?

That's the position Trav7777 stated 4 days after this nuclear emergency started.

There were actually quite few people who stated similar things before him, and he was in fact correct, in most regards, throughout this.

'Sushi' was aother zh-er who got it spot-on, almost immediately that the reactors blew.

The content of what trav actually said, in the wake of that, is substantially different from the perception people now troll-out about it based on how he said it.

And in that resect, he did indeed screw the pooch.

But that's another matter entirely - so quit the rediculous trolling and BS-athon.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:33 | 1188937 Erra
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Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:29 | 1189512 avonaltendorf
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Wow nothing. The radiation counter was strapped to Robot A, no telemetry, so the camera on Robot B was pointed at it to "read" the display. Hokey fucking bullshit par excellence. Human workers had to open doors for robots to enter electrical rooms, not reactor floors - to do what? - Public Relations Photo Op sightseeing.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:35 | 1189557 Ident 7777 economy
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Wow nothing. The radiation counter was strapped to Robot A, no telemetry, 

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  There may be a market here for mission specific equpment here; obviously, they are going for 'light and cheap' here using COTS (commercial of-the-shelf) gear ad hoc'd ...


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:41 | 1188938 bob_dabolina
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"Radiation levels of “several dozens of sieverts” possible near No. 2 reactor"

lol...several dozen

Could that be 10 or 20? As in 10 or 20 dozen sieverts.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:53 | 1189649 slewie the pi-rat
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sieverts?  that's not about the NGas, is it???  LOL!

i watched arnie, yest, and he thinks #3 is not too raging outa control.  maybe they could start the entombment there, fairly soon...???  who knows???

what the hell happened to the putzmeisters?  stuttgart wants to be paid in gold to ship?  france decided to use them against moQ in libya?  what has the UN done, now? 

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 04:02 | 1191554 steveo
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They are in Wisconsin, and the union leaders want overtime and more bene's before they ship them.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 22:35 | 1190945 goldfish1
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Agency admits 'melting' of N-fuel

The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency has reported to a Cabinet Office safety panel that nuclear fuel pellets in the Nos. 1 to 3 reactors at the quake-hit Fukushima power station are believed to have partially melted.

The report was the first time the agency, an organ of the Economy, Trade and Industry Ministry, has acknowledged that nuclear fuel has melted at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant.

Hidehiko Nishiyama, a spokesman for the agency, told a press conference Monday about the agency's report to the Nuclear Safety Commission. The agency had previously only described the nuclear fuel as having been at least 3 percent "damaged."

According to Nishiyama, damage to reactors can be described in three phases of increasing severity. In the first phase of initial damage to a reactor's core, the metallic casing surrounding the fuel pellets are damaged but the pellets remain intact. The second phase involves some melting of nuclear fuel. In the third phase, what is known as a meltdown, all the fuel pellets melt and accumulate at the bottom of the containment vessel.

The agency said it now believes the fuel pallets have melted because of the high levels of radiation detected at the Nos. 2 and 3 reactors. Melting fuel pellets also likely led to a hydrogen explosion at the No. 1 reactor, Nishiyama said.

Tokyo Electric Power Co., the operator of the crippled plant, has said the cores of the Nos. 1 to 3 reactors have been damaged by 25 percent to 70 percent. But the agency emphasized that these figures are only estimates.

"We can't say for sure about how much has melted until the rods are actually taken out," Nishiyama said.

(Apr. 20, 2011)


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:36 | 1188942 theopco
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iRobot rules

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:41 | 1188964 TheGreatPonzi
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Sorry if I don't share your enthusiasm, but the 'Packbot' I've seen on the capture struck me as particularly weak, slow and unadvanced. A radio-controlled kid toy could have done the same thing. 

Is this the best the US can do in 2011? 

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:57 | 1189046 Diogenes
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The scary part is it is better than Japan can do in 2011.

Bomb disposal robots = made to be blown up = cheap.

Or in this case made to be disposed of and left in the building when they get radioactive and the batteries run down.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:20 | 1189176 VogonPoet
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seriously. an Iphone camera is better, what is that a VHS recorder from 1977?

but no, thats not the best the US can do, Boston Dynamics is: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Boston+Dynamics&aq=f

and they're pretty damn awesome.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:30 | 1189518 Ident 7777 economy
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seriously. an Iphone camera is better, what is that a VHS recorder from 1977?

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A screen shot by a camera off a laptop LCD screen.

Didn't watch the video? Was explained by a talking head ...

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:18 | 1189775 Odd Ball
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The robots in these videos have 6' articulating arms that get the cameras up at normal human height.  Running two robots is smart since the second robot can help the operator of the lead robot avoid trouble.  It makes sense not to waste time integrating the data-streams from the rad sensors when they can just read them with cameras.  A kid's RC car could flip on the first ceiling tile.  Then you'd get a neat angled view of the floor while it spun it's little wheels in the air.  Of course an RC car would be disposable, so perhaps you do have a point.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 04:00 | 1191553 steveo
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5 trillion dollars pales in comparison to the long term human damage that will occur over a century or two.    maybe even 500 trillion pales.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 23:05 | 1191035 gmj
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We will not get a look at "the best the US can do".  

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:37 | 1188943 Gully Foyle
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Robots face difficulties at Fukushima plant

Tokyo Electric Power Company says radioactive debris and high humidity are hampering the investigation by robots at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

The company began using remote-controlled robots to explore the first three reactor buildings on Sunday and Monday.

At the Number 2 reactor building, the robot's camera lens was instantly clouded by high humidity.

TEPCO officials think that the steam is coming from the damaged section of the reactor's suppression pool.
But they have not found a way to resolve the problem as the steam could be highly toxic.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:49 | 1189004 redpill
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COULD be highly toxic?  Well no shit sherlock, it's leaking straight out of the reactor.  These guys never admit anything!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:57 | 1189062 jus_lite_reading
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DENY DENY DENY.... LIE LIE LIE... thats all they do. The end of them is near. Mad max world is coming because of their lies.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:09 | 1189427 redpill
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And what they still haven't admitted is Reactor 2 is still dry and melting, containment is breached and they have no fucking clue what to do about it.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:30 | 1189532 avonaltendorf
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Correct. Every drop of water they pump into 2 immediately leaks out loaded with radionuclides.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:39 | 1188967 hedgeless_horseman
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Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:40 | 1188973 SheepDog-One
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Awesome-O 3000

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:01 | 1189069 redpill
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Maybe the Japanese will start making robots that actually do something useful now.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:50 | 1189621 Logans_Run
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In my book mixing and serving a martini is quite useful!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 19:04 | 1190326 HedgeCock
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What about the robot that can play the violin?  At least someone very bright thought of covering string catastrophes if the need arises.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:43 | 1188979 HK
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Arnie Gundersen discusses the current condition of the reactors:



Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:12 | 1189128 idou
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This totally vindicates Tyler's "Uncontrolled, Open Air Fission Process" in unit 4 post on 4/13. Some doubted fission was occuring in the unit 4 pool and probably owe Tyler an apology at this point (hopefully in the form of a Fukushima plant water "Kanpai" with Mr. Kan). If you are not an expert, stop trying to act like one (MSimon, I am looking at you). 


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:31 | 1189523 Ident 7777 economy
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This totally vindicates Tyler's "Uncontrolled, Open Air Fission Process"

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Sure does; absent a 'moderator' even?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 17:24 | 1190036 idou
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Moderator =  water? 


Commonly used moderators include regular (light) water (roughly 75% of the world's reactors), solid graphite (20% of reactors) and heavy water (5% of reactors).

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 17:29 | 1190054 Ident 7777 economy
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Right; now you've got it ...

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:41 | 1188983 buzzsaw99
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50 mSv my ass.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:43 | 1188984 Cognitive Dissonance
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Yeah, but when they get that high voltage line brought in and hooked up they'll be able to get the cooling pumps back on line and all will be fixed.....right? Oops, sorry about that. I'm reading from a 3 week old company media playbook.

Hey, who's got the latest bullshit propaganda handy?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:43 | 1188994 bob_dabolina
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A citizen’s group concerned about the impact on mothers and babies of the radioactive leaks from a crippled nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture said Wednesday that small amounts of radioactive iodine have been found in the breast milk of four women living east or northeast of Tokyo.

Of the samples provided by the four women, the breast milk of the mother of an 8-month-old baby in Kashiwa, Chiba Prefecture, contained the highest level of 36.3 becquerels [27 picoCuries = 1 becquerel] of radioactive iodine per kilogram, but no radioactive cesium was found, the group said. …


No worries...it's a small amount, from a small leak. This will be wrapped up in a jiffy.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:48 | 1189014 Cognitive Dissonance
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No worries...it's a small amount, from a small leak. This will be wrapped up in a jiffy.

Could you be more specific? Is it milk from the breast(s) or radiation from the reactors that's leaking?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:50 | 1189031 bob_dabolina
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same diff, no diff


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 13:57 | 1189057 Cognitive Dissonance
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Now I get it. There is radioactive milk leaking from the breast(s) and Tepco will start pumping tomorrow.

Roger that bob. Roger that.

Do you have any feedback from the mother or have her breasts been deemed a national security matter, thus they are no longer her breasts or her concern? Any word on when these hazardous waste dumps will be removed and will the mother be fined or jailed for unsafe storage of radioactive material?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:01 | 1189064 bob_dabolina
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I'm hearing reports that the leaking breasts in question are Lynn Tiltons.

As long as you promise not to cum in her mouth (and she believes it) the situation should be resolved in the next 9 months.


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:11 | 1189112 Cognitive Dissonance
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BTW where's Trav7777 to update us on this latest video?

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 14:25 | 1189201 bob_dabolina
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My name is trav7777. I am a survivor living in New York City. I am broadcasting on all AM frequencies. I will be at the South Street Seaport Cyber Cigar Coffee Bar everyday at mid-day, when the sun is highest in the sky. If any moonbats are out there... if any NWO pigeon watchers are out there... I can provide food, I can provide shelter, I can provide security. If there's anybody out there... anybody... please. You are not alone.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:53 | 1189638 trav7777
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it's nice to be popular.

the world hasn't ended yet...everyone in Tokyo is not "dead or evacuated," and it's like 3+ weeks since that prediction.


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:04 | 1189680 slewie the pi-rat
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remember!  once the leaky radioactive breast milk is pumped, it must be poured into the sea!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:16 | 1189778 bob_dabolina
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I never made that prediction. But ok, I wouldn't want to argue with someone so popular.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:52 | 1189913 tmosley
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Uhh, yeah, because the water is back on, punk.

You need to learn to stop mischaracterizing people's comments.  It's habits like that that have everyone mocking you in all of these threads.

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