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TEPCO Releases Helicopter Overflight Fukushima Devastation Video

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Dramatic images from Fukushima as TEPCO releases yet another perspective of the crippled nuclear power plant, this time from a Helicopter overflight from March 16 at 4pm local time. Too bad there is no Geiger counter caption to go with all the other ones.

h/t Martyn Williams

 

 


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Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:02 | Link to Comment AN0NYM0US
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Delusional Comments in Support of Delusion Policy

by James West on March 17, 2011

Bloomberg is not generally known to publish tripe indiscriminately. Yet the most recent piece by Bloomberg columnist Caroline Salas demonstrates an absence of editorial presence that embarrases the venerable publication.

 

 

http://www.midasletter.com/index.php/delusional-comments-in-support-of-d...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-17/bernanke-in-testimony-can-prove...

To contact the reporter on this story: Caroline Salas in New York at csalas1@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Chris Wellisz at cwellisz@bloomberg.net

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:05 | Link to Comment jus_lite_reading
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WOW! No wonder high radiation is detected 70 KM from FUKUSHIMA!!!!

http://fiatsfire.blogspot.com/2011/03/radioactive-japan-geiger-counter-4...

This guy should get the eff out now!

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:49 | Link to Comment SilverRhino
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>>Radioactive Japan - Geiger Counter 45 Miles From Fukushima Shows Radiation Off The Dial;

Got a source for that?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:56 | Link to Comment ArgentDawn
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Source is questionable, but it is linked in the article if you read it..

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-573238

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:51 | Link to Comment IQ 145
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 kThanks for the post; that's pretty convincing, alright.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:55 | Link to Comment Confuchius
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You round eyes have short memories. (we knew that: measured in microseconds)

You set off a thousand (or was it a million) uranium bombs + hydrogen bombs all over the Pacific and seemed not to give a shit about your people or anyone else's.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:53 | Link to Comment trav7777
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iReporter's meter is set on x.1...there's no way to know from that what the actual CPM is, only that it appears higher than 240 which would be 10x normal background.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:08 | Link to Comment Ataraxia
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Did anyone notice what appears to be the outer containment structure of reactor three sitting off to the side? There's not one comment on this thread about the damage shown in the video.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:31 | Link to Comment depression
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OK so dumb question here but where exactly do they plan to plug the new power cord in that mess ? and then what is supposed to happen once the power cord is connected ?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 13:21 | Link to Comment aerojet
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The whole "power cord" thing doesn't make much sense to me.  If power was their whole problem, why not just airlift in a few gensets using heavy lift helicopters?  They must have equipment like that.  Something doesn't add up.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:06 | Link to Comment jus_lite_reading
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Agreed. If something smells fishy, its probably dead fish

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:07 | Link to Comment jus_lite_reading
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Agreed. If something smells fishy, its probably dead fish

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:35 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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Eeeeeewwwwww!  That's disgusting.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:31 | Link to Comment Paul Bogdanich
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"Bloomberg is not generally known to publish tripe indiscriminately."

 

Since when?  Bloomberg is a major propaganda mouthpiece.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:59 | Link to Comment prophet
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Fashion something like a cement pumper truck augmented with a sufficiently thick lead encasement for the operator cab and cameras and drive the thing up there.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:03 | Link to Comment TomJoad
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Don't forget the Boron injection system!

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:16 | Link to Comment prophet
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Some nostalgia for tough times.

http://www.matttrailer.com/the_gauntlet_1977

"  ... and this is my gun Clyde."

" Now you can come along peacefully or you can be a pain in the ass"

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:23 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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You are absolutely correct and thinking like a level headed engineer. There should be a staging are a few miles offsite with hundreds of welders, engineers, metal fabs, military units and other capable groups fabricating equipment to handle the situation.

Unfortunately, bureaucrats and other idiots are in charge and so waffling and confusion will rein until the problem is insurmountable.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:51 | Link to Comment Dr_Dazed
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Don't you think that their disorganized response might be partially due to the fact they just suffered something of a shake?  Maybe a little rinse down afterward?  If this were the only problem they would probably be all over it, but there's several concurrent disasters to be addressed.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 13:42 | Link to Comment A Texan
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That Japan has other problems is quite obvious.  However, as bad as those other problems are, none has the potential to create such devastation in the short run as a failure of the cooling systems on these reactors.  Whenever there's a disaster, you take care of the biggest problem first.

 

Besides, Japan is one of the most advanced nations on the planet, and there are 130 million of them, so it is actually possible to walk and chew gum at the same time.  The Japanese PM should have designated one minister to be in charge of containing this problem and given him whatever power is necessary to do so.  Moving a few huge generators and some new pumping equipment to this plant, along with welders, engineers, etc . and their equipment is certainly well within the capabilities of their military and power industry - no one that I know of is ready to invade Japan this week, so its not like they're too busy with other things.  Finally, we and others have offered help.  I think that the problem is one of not wanting to look bad in and out of the country - which, if this is the case, is criminally stupid.  If it isn't, then their PM is either as lazy as Obambi, or drunk like Stalin after the Nazis invaded.  Whatever the answer, the appropriate steps have not been taken - and they could have been, one way or another.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 16:21 | Link to Comment RunningMan
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Excellent comment. It is never shameful to ask for help, especially in dire times.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:01 | Link to Comment yipcarl
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http://anncoulter.com/

 

Tyler or anyone at Zero... I wanted to send you this link.  Read this story and please comment. 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:03 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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Ann Coulter? Really? Do we have to? Can't we just go out and club a few baby seals instead and get the same effect?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:06 | Link to Comment tmosley
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Yeah, I don't think I'm going to read anything written by that partisan moron either.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:12 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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To be honest I couldn't make it past the second paragarph.

With the terrible earthquake and resulting tsunami that have devastated Japan, the only good news is that anyone exposed to excess radiation from the nuclear power plants is now probably much less likely to get cancer.

This only seems counterintuitive because of media hysteria for the past 20 years trying to convince Americans that radiation at any dose is bad. There is, however, burgeoning evidence that excess radiation operates as a sort of cancer vaccine.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:14 | Link to Comment DarkAgeAhead
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For an interesting contrarian view on radiation and nuclear as "green", Stuart Brand's latest book is decent, though I wonder if he's eating his words right now.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:42 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
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contrarian view on radiation and nuclear as "green"

havent read the book; but there are apparently spa-like facilities in abandoned uranium mines, some place in europe, where people go for short but frequent visits to improve their health. I thought it was yet another scam. maybe not.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:54 | Link to Comment trav7777
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there are areas people live in which have 200x background and there are no abundance of cancers.  Actually the people are quite healthy.

McDonald's is a bigger risk so far than Fukushima

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:01 | Link to Comment duo
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Bad Kreuznach Germany has a cave where you could go in and breath Radon.  Thought to cure tuberculosis.  It's been walled off since 1920 or so.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:12 | Link to Comment TomJoad
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Perhaps she is floating this as the "conservative alternative" to Obamacare?  We'll just take any "At Risk" groups and expose them to "Low levels" of curative radiation.  The more "At Risk" the groups are, the higher levels of radiation they get. Perhaps the radiation will be administered in a "Day Spa" setting something like Roman baths. Or even better, Large group showers. That's the ticket.

 

Jump! You Bankster Fuckers!

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:33 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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by TomJoad
on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:12
#1066923

 

Perhaps she is floating this as the "conservative alternative" to Obamacare?   

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Providing health care to every citizen in the United States is not what is killing our Country..

Here, pick 2 weeks and pay for Health Care.. http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/tot_operation_schedule.html#

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:47 | Link to Comment TomJoad
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Ummmmmm. Ever heard of "A Modest Proposal?"

Full text linked below:

http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html

 

(hint: "Large group showers" was the final giveaway)

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:40 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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by TomJoad
on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:12
#1066923

 

Perhaps she is floating this as the "conservative alternative" to Obamacare?   

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Providing health care to every citizen in the United States is not what is killing our Country..

Here, pick 2 weeks and pay for Health Care.. http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/tot_operation_schedule.html#

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:50 | Link to Comment FilthyLucre
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The cure is worse than the disease?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:17 | Link to Comment h4rdware
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Some evidence emerged (following studies conducted at Pripyat) that there are enzyme-level (DNA) repair mechanisms built into most organisms that activate when background radiation rises high enough. Presumably this mechanism defaults to 'off' because there is some hidden cost, or causes other problems if it becomes too active.

It is probably a throwback to disruptive events like meteor strikes or tectonic mayhem in the distant past.

It wasn't recognised until recently because most of the health data relating to radiation exposure until at least the 1980s was based on data gathered from studies on the effects in Japan from WWII, and they cut off the data sampling *above* the level at which the enzyme repair system is most active/useful.

In summary, small doses of radiation may prove to be useful in some circumstances. But too much is only ever going to be bad. So, as is always the case, expect the whole idea to be twisted and abused to suit any given argument.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:16 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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Oh it's GOOD for you -- Methman will be all over that!

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:11 | Link to Comment Harmonious_Diss...
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"Silver is $5 to dig out of the ground & Plutonium should be in flinstones vitamins, it's that safe." -Meth Man

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:25 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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Hey...is this the same Yipcarl that predicted $500 gold by now...oh sorry, by next month?

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/gold-takes-one-german-fin-min-comments#...

Credibility at its finest!

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:44 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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What he meant to say... is that all that Rusty Gold should only be worth $500 bucks an oz... ***LULZ!!!!!!!!!!!!***

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:26 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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Only in the mind of that pernicious fascist party slut of a stupid nowhere cunt could such an outrageous falsehood be born...And I, of course, mean that in the best possible way.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:31 | Link to Comment HamyWanger
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"With the terrible earthquake and resulting tsunami that have devastated Japan, the only good news is that anyone exposed to excess radiation from the nuclear power plants is now probably much less likely to get cancer.


This only seems counterintuitive because of media hysteria for the past 20 years trying to convince Americans that radiation at any dose is bad. There is, however, burgeoning evidence that excess radiation operates as a sort of cancer vaccine."

 

I'm glad such a smart and beautiful woman as Ann Coulter finally brings the light to the truth and agrees with me.

 

Nuclear radiation has always been good for the human body. 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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The effect is well know and referred to as: "Hormesis". 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:38 | Link to Comment TomJoad
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"Ever been to Utah? Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense. Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year. They ought to have them, too. When they canceled the project it almost did me in. One day my mind was full to bursting. The next day - nothing. Swept away. But I'll show them. I had a lobotomy in the end."

 

 

Jump! You Bankster Fuckers!

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:43 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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same wave length...scary:)

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:21 | Link to Comment Dustin de Wynde
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I slowed down the pitch here http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150126180757668 (which totally adds to it me thinks), and I added the above as subtitles.

 

Funny thing about my Dad, not only was he also a nuclear physicist, he dressed and sounded just like J. Frank Parnell, to the point of this speech about radiation being almost word for word verbatim real life stuff I heard him say, more than once, right after 3 Mile Island, and long *before* this movie came out, he also completely looked like J. Frank Parnell too.

To the point that I cringed when I first saw Repo Man and hoped that my friends wouldn't spot the connection and make fun of him.

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:48 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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FaceBook is the Devils Work! http://www.zerohedge.com/article/facebook-goldman-sachs-we-trust

 

Now you are either the devil or his minion? or stupid??

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:29 | Link to Comment Dustin de Wynde
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In answer to your questions, neither, that word has never applied to me, and I could have written that GS/FB story myself.

Simply posted it there in that environment because I added a subtitle scroll and I just didn't want it blocked by YouTube's ads.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:38 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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I believe she got her research from J. Frank Parnell...the mad scientist in the movie Repo Man who said:

"Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense. Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year. They ought to have them, too. When they canceled the project it almost did me in. One day my mind was full to bursting. The next day - nothing. Swept away. But I'll show them. I had a lobotomy in the end...Friend of mine had one. Designer of the neutron bomb. You ever hear of the neutron bomb? Destroys people - leaves buildings standing. Fits in a suitcase. It's so small, no one knows it's there until - BLAMMO. Eyes melt, skin explodes, everybody dead. So immoral, working on the thing can drive you mad. That's what happened to this friend of mine. So he had a lobotomy. Now he's well again. "

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:27 | Link to Comment TomJoad
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Here is the full segment from youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qljXevEW2W0&feature=related

 

I think I'll download the whole movie and watch it tonight.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:50 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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Oh that movie has been in my permanent collection for years and years. Had my first copy on VHS...that's how long I've had it.

Definitely a cult classic.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:58 | Link to Comment TomJoad
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I actually had it on RCA VideoDisk if I remember correctly, probably most watched along with "Holy Grail"  What we need right now is a good shrubber.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 13:10 | Link to Comment Dustin de Wynde
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My version is subtitled http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150126180757668 and posted on FB so the stupid YouTube ads don't block the scroll.

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 13:57 | Link to Comment TomJoad
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I don't understand why you slowed it down. It really loses a lot in my opinion.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:54 | Link to Comment IQ 145
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 A cancer vaccine! Oh, the shame of it. The poor girls "catholic" has all gone to her head.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:57 | Link to Comment Byte Me
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Here's a thought:

A Coulter goes onsite FU Daiichi and tries lecturing the brave workers that what they're doing will improve their health (c/w the 'new' 150% extra improvement courtesy of the local gov) and sees how well it cheers them up.

Jeez (and I'm an atheist)

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:47 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
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She's such a twat.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 13:57 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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..and I thought her views on evolution were 'special'.  just, wow...

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:21 | Link to Comment BigJim
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She's looking a bit skinny in some of those more recent photos - perhaps she's been following her own advice and subjecting herself to some of that healing gamma glow.

I'd donate one dollar to help pay for Ann Coulter's flight to Japan so she can aid the Fukushima efforts in person. Who will join me?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:20 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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How about a flyover on Ann Coulter's breasts....

Real or fake?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:27 | Link to Comment BigJim
Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:53 | Link to Comment DoctoRx
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Marfan's syndrome

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:09 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Does that include brain lesions because she's showing signs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marfan_syndrome

Nope, nothing about brain lesions. Tell her doctor she has other problems as well.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:29 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Ann-o-rexic!

Sad. She is living in hell.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:20 | Link to Comment chindit13
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I think she's the devil's wife, so she probably has a good table and lots of comps.  Come to think of it, if she's the devil's wife, the Mormons or the Jehovah Witnesses should go calling on old Lucifer because he might be vulnerable to a pitch.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:50 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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by MsCreant
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#1066732

 

Ann-o-rexic!

Sad. She is living in hell.

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She needs a Burger and then some...

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:34 | Link to Comment ddtuttle
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If they're fake she should get her money back. Not worth an operation.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:38 | Link to Comment nonclaim
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She should hire WB7 for the photoshop session... this is terrible. With that arm length she can touch her knees without bending, maybe even change a ceiling lamp.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:41 | Link to Comment walküre
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LULU down 5% and earnings double?

Almost too real to believe.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:14 | Link to Comment Mark McGoldrick
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Like Sarah Palin, Coulter's snarkiness, assertiveness and overly dolled-up image provide that desperate, lame spark in the pants of repressed conservative, middle-aged men who haven't felt any sensation beneath their belt since their wedding night a generation ago.  How many church functions, parent-teacher meetings, suburban soccer games and mindlessly boring neighborhood pot-luck barbecues can a man go to before he looses all of his virility? 

Palin and Coulter fill that dark lifeless void in the loins of conservative men, much in the same way that Fabio and romance novels do for their repressed wives.    

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:17 | Link to Comment Logans_Run
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As a veteran of many church functions, parent-teacher meetings, suburban soccer games and mindlessly boring neighborhood pot-luck barbeques I can honestly say I would rather do Fabio than either of these two wenches, and I'm not gay.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:26 | Link to Comment Mark McGoldrick
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Well, you may want to rethink that. Somewhere there is a video of Ted Haggard saying the same thing.  

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 13:00 | Link to Comment Blano
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Thank God for Sofia Vergara.  If she can't bring you back to life, nothing can.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 17:47 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Man am I ever glad that I do not know what you're talking about! :>D

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:50 | Link to Comment hardcleareye
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Robo, you have truly reached a new low, what is your Mom going to do to you when she discoverers that your new fetish is lusting over Ann Coulter breast.  Have you NO shame!!! 

I'm sure with her shirt off you can count all her ribs and she sure has shit has never breast fed a baby, probably poison the poor kid!

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:53 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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please help by contributing to the fund to get Ann Coulter laid. You can make your tax deductible contribution by calling 1-800-BANG-ANN.

Please contribute generously because, as you can see, it's going to take a lot of money to get someone to hit that shit.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:04 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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I'll donate, but I sure as hell won't try to convince the IRS that Ann Coulter is a charitable institution.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:21 | Link to Comment Logans_Run
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"Please contribute generously because, as you can see, it's going to take a lot of money to get someone to hit that shit."

I just threw up on my keyboard

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 13:01 | Link to Comment Blano
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This turned into one of the funnier threads I've seen in a while.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 18:56 | Link to Comment TerraHertz
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It's been a week; gallows humor setting in.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:15 | Link to Comment Logans_Run
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Honestly Robo, who cares?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:27 | Link to Comment Ruffcut
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Ann Cuntler?

Now there's a solution to stick a few spent fuel rods into.

There is no remedy against her spew. oh no, feel like crapping and puking at the same time. Gotta go.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:19 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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99% of cancers are caused by viruses.

Too much money being made taxing tobacco, suing tobacco companies, and with Pharma and Doctors pumping patients full of voodoo serums to look for the real cause.

Also - don't they treat cancer with radiation?

Hmmmm....

Never hurts to look at both sides of the coin.

Maggots do a fine job of cleaning out a wound but it took non-establishment doctors to prove it and bring the "erudite" out of their arrogance.

Leeching was seen as barbaric by modern medicine until they found that the chemicals released by the leeches to prevent clotting at the feeding site circulated in the blood stream of and were beneficial to many ill patients.

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:46 | Link to Comment Dr. No
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I can see it now, Cockroach baths for all nuke workers! 

Your point is taken, I just couldnt resist the stupid comment.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:49 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
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Don't they still use leeches in some cases?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:21 | Link to Comment Breaker
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"Ann Coulter? Really? Do we have to? Can't we just go out and club a few baby seals instead and get the same effect?"

Interesting. This site fancies itself as iconoclastic and willing to go against the conventional wisdom. Yet here, posters pile all over someone who dares violate the ZH conventional wisdom. 

I have no idea whether what she writes is true. Seems fishy. But she is willing to say and write things noone else dares to. I give her credit for that.

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:05 | Link to Comment sharkbait
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I just read it.  Interesting.  Nice to see someone taking a look at the facts as they stand and doing something besides add to the hysteria of ignorance.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:26 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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+ The lefty bigotry is running high here this morning, as usual.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Alienated Serf
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right on kaiser.  this site is well known for its socialist, even communist leanings.  we are all dyed in the wool statists who want more interference in our lives.

or it could be that most of the people here have evolved above falling for left/right partisan antics. 

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Alienated Serf
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dp 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:10 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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why don't you relinquish your "left vs. right" paradigm for a moment and wrap your head around the fact that this woman is saying that radiation is a vaccine against cancer? Is this advice you would give your child? Really? Go play with radiation honey, that way you won't get cancer?

good fuckin grief man.

everything is not about left vs. right or republicans vs. democrats. sometimes it's just about common fuckin sense...and this article flies in the face of common sense.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:51 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
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The partisan hat cuts circulation to the brain.. even if they took it off today, it would still take a while for proper blood flow to return.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:16 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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See my comment below on the J shape of the radiation/cancer curve.

Some of you need to learn that the messenger is NOT the message.

If Barney Fwank calls and tells me I have won the lottery, I'm gonna take the money!

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:09 | Link to Comment jschurchin
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I just sent her a e-mail and offered to buy her a ticket to Fukushima so she won't get cancer from radiation. Some how, I don't think she will take me up on the offer.

What a stupid cunt.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:13 | Link to Comment sharkbait
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and you are a pathetic infantile misogynist.  Erectile problems maybe?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:21 | Link to Comment tmosley
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Hi Ann.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:23 | Link to Comment ZeroPower
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+1

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:21 | Link to Comment LeBalance
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No discussion negating the above argument substance.  Just a display of vitriol.  Diagnostics of one's own problems are always written in these comments.  We will pray for you, Sharkbait.

:)

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:29 | Link to Comment sharkbait
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very good!  Thanks also

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:23 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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You seem to be taking this personally.

Ann? Ann Coulter, is that you?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:35 | Link to Comment hardcleareye
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I am finding this lead a great way to "blow off" some steam after watching that video!!! 

While I cringe when I read that word the actual definition and usage in this case might be accurate..

Reflecting different national usages, the Compact Oxford English Dictionary defines "cunt" as "an unpleasant or stupid person", whereas Merriam-Webster has a usage of the term as "usually disparaging & obscene: woman",[4] noting that it is used in the US as "an offensive way to refer to a woman";

It is time to walk away from this for a bit......  that video was extremely disturbing.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:56 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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So according to the Oxford dictionary, they have been misspelling country music this whole time. Now it makes sense.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:50 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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Great idea! To show solidarity with the people and to show that it is safe. All Japanese government, TEPCO officials and their families will set up a foward base at the edge of the 30k zone.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:06 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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If you think her argument through for those people who were radiated, but not enough to reach the "good" level, will need to be subjected to more radiation. The mind staggers under the implications.

"Madam, the first 6 radiation treatments are used to kill your breast cancer. The next 10 will be to make you healthier and to activate the cancer cure vaccine."

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:11 | Link to Comment the not so migh...
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conservative wack job whore

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:18 | Link to Comment sharkbait
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hmmm, it doesn't seem fair to pick on someone that can't spell 'whack'  (too much time practicing the art I suppose?)

I'm guessing all your friends (maybe that should just be 'your friend') call her that so you decided to also.  You aren't sure what it means but your friend(s) sort of grunted and drooled when he (they) said it so it must be cool.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:23 | Link to Comment the not so migh...
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What, do you have a blow up doll of her or something?  why the love interest?

 

wack

adj \?wak\ Definition of WACK

slang
: not up to the mark : lousy, lame <while there are skilled moments, there are wack ones as well — Danyel Smith> Examples of WACK

  1. <that movie was wack, even by the standards of popcorn flicks>
Origin of WACK probably alteration of wacky
First Known Use: 1984 Related to WACK Synonyms: bastard, bush, bush-league, crummy (also crumby), deficient, dissatisfactory, ill, inferior, lame, lousy, off, paltry, poor, punk, sour, suboptimal, subpar, substandard, unacceptable, unsatisfactory, bad [slang], wanting, wretched, wrong Antonyms: acceptable, adequate, all right, decent, fine, OK (or okay), passable, respectable, satisfactory, standard, tolerable

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:25 | Link to Comment hardcleareye
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Go away troll.......  your wasting everyone's time.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:30 | Link to Comment BigJim
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Awww, did the nasty man insult your luvly anny-whanny?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:30 | Link to Comment A Man without Q...
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You write like Anne Coulter - a mixture of aggression and pseudo-intellectualism.

 

Anyway, like he said.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:33 | Link to Comment Bolweevil
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sharkbait (Ann) is wack like flava flav.

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:53 | Link to Comment aheady
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wiggity wiggity wack

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:36 | Link to Comment the not so migh...
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Ann , if that is you I just wanna say you have bodacious ta-tas

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:12 | Link to Comment papaswamp
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I'll save everyone the trouble...some scientists say.." "They theorize," the Times said, that "these doses protect against cancer by activating cells' natural defense mechanisms." 

Clearly no clue about the impact of high doses of gamma radiation much less ingestion of beta and worse alpha particles. Freakn idiots.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:14 | Link to Comment kato
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Dioxins at some level do no harm either. But like radioactivity, they are persistent in the environment and accumulate in predador species (e.g. trout) and then get passed on to other predator species accumulating generally in fatty tissues and the liver. at some level there might be a positive dose response but people generally do not like the things they eat to contain persisten chemicals with half-lives of tens of years and radiation with half-lives of tens of thousands of years; and which may cause harm - dioxin didn't kill the guy the russians tried to poison but it rather messed him up. radioactivity will cause cancer - go read something on ionizing radiation.

people like you who listen to and give credence to anything that anne coulter (great belly) and limbuger are among the most stupid of human beings and should have been exposed at birth. i hate stupid people who refuse to think and refuse to attemt to think for themselves.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:19 | Link to Comment sharkbait
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'....i hate stupid people who refuse to think and refuse to attemt to think for themselves.....'

such self-loathing, sad.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:27 | Link to Comment kato
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time to go back to the rush radio show to get your next big idea, loser.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:06 | Link to Comment moneymutt
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small doses of many lethals things are not harmful...I agree, the threat is the persistance of such things and the long-term exposure.

I do think radiation is one public health hazard people are overly-sensitive to, in relation to others. Not that radiation can be horribly bad, just that people seem to automatically think the worse of it, as we should when planning, but do not think of the damage cause by coal soot in sky, high stats that swimming pool in backyard is harmful etc.

But the key here, is if worst case scenario transpires, its really bad for really long time. If people in China get fed up of dying 10 years early due to asthma, skies can be cleaned up quickly (ignoring the heavy metals issue in gorun/water) but radiation, much harder to remove from environment if it gets out of hand.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:20 | Link to Comment 4shzl
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Read this story and please comment.

Tendentious.

You're welcome.

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:21 | Link to Comment hardcleareye
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So sorry, I will usually take a peak at most links but I just can't bring myself to look at anything that vicious bitch has said or written.  I don't "label" other women by that name lightly....

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:37 | Link to Comment azengrcat
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I thought Barack Obama was in favor of Nuclear Energy because of his stance on global warming?  Did your mind just divide by zero?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Wynn
Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:47 | Link to Comment TomJoad
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Now THAT, was funny. Thank you.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 15:24 | Link to Comment fredquimby
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Seriously funny. Whoever this Ann person is you are talking about.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 19:26 | Link to Comment TerraHertz
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Heh. THAT was worth the click. Not going to click on something BY Coulter, since _I'm_ not a massochist.

That said, I'm aware of theories that doses within a certain (fairly high) range of ionizing radiation can have beneficial effects, by switching on self-repair gene systems. May well be true. Bearing in mind that the purpose of such processes would be to make an attempt to repair damage the radiation did in the first place, so it would probably have been better to just skip the whole drama.

Then there's the question of dosage distribution. Diffuse external radiation in certain amounts might work as described, but there's no way a speck of really hot dust lodged in the lung, radioactive iodine concentrating in the thyroid, or absorbed plutonium doing it's metabolic wrecking ball plus irradiating act, is going to have any beneficial effects at all.

If you want to know about things that _are_ useful in decreasing cancer risk and dealing with actual cancer, look up 'laetrile', 'vitamin B17', apricot pips, etc. Also Vitamin D, 2000 to 10,000 IU a day.

See http://everist.org/archives/links/

 

 

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 13:23 | Link to Comment bud-wiser
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A freekin five gallon jerry can of kool-aid to any one that could actually be reassured by this drivel.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:01 | Link to Comment ZeroPower
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I guess no no-fly zone for this heli crew?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:00 | Link to Comment yipcarl
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It's called

 

A GLOWING REPORT ON RADIATION.  IS IT LEGIT?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:05 | Link to Comment DarkAgeAhead
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Sorry but I just can't bring myself to give Coulter the benefit of even one web click. 

Looks like TEPCO may just be setting up a way to absolve itself from any type of liability.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:08 | Link to Comment sharkbait
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Appropriate name, DarkAge.  Keep your head in the sand and don't risk exposing yourself to anything that may challenge your view of the world.

Very encouraging to know there are people like you out there.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:18 | Link to Comment DarkAgeAhead
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I've heard enough Coulter to make an appropriate judgment of her self-promoting "financial attentioneering" (i.e., whoring, or more accurating mentally prostituting since money's involved).

I'll read anything from any credible source - she had her chance!  I'm not sure Coulter et. al actually believe anything they say or write anymore.  It's about attention for them.  So f@ck 'em - no positive affirmation from me for that group.

(not me that junked you, not that it really matters)

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:26 | Link to Comment samsara
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Coulter isn't 'She' the Neocon with the adam's apple?

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:17 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Yes.  Cancer from radiation is a J-shaped curve, and it's well documented.  Those living at high altitudes, with high radon levels in their homes, working in granite buildings have dramaticly lower rates.  James Hogan even proposed designating a vitamin R to get the dose right.  NO SAFE AMOUNT is bull shit, but once you exceed a few times "normal" background, cancer rates increase sharply.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:02 | Link to Comment Putty
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I thought the Japanese were experts at image stabilization.  I expected Bigfoot to stick his head out and wave.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:19 | Link to Comment Buckaroo Banzai
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They were using the latest ShakeyCam® technology.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:21 | Link to Comment Gert_B_Frobe
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Was thinking along similar lines. It was probably stable and as clear as glass until Governmentsan got a hold of it.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:30 | Link to Comment SilverRhino
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That piece of crap Battle for Los Angeles had more stable camera shooting than that helicopter ride.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:37 | Link to Comment BigJim
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He was shaking with excitement, knowing his chances of cancer were being dramatically reduced!

  -- Ann Coulter

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:09 | Link to Comment Byte Me
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+1

 

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Rusty Shorts
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"Obfuscation of the facts" camera work.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:02 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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one thing worse than Cool Aid....radioactive Cool Aid

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:25 | Link to Comment Gert_B_Frobe
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No, actually spelling Kool-Aid incorrectly is worse.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:05 | Link to Comment Big Corked Boots
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Based on the conditions of the structure - note the blown-out concrete column in one frame, not sure what reactor it was - there are few, if any, pipes in there that could conduct water onto the cores or pools.

Can't imagine what they are going to do next that will have any effect.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:13 | Link to Comment papaswamp
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Bingo...the assumption that turn water back on will work because pumps and pipes are undamaged. From that video damage is extensive.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:18 | Link to Comment machineh
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The French offered to send remote-control robots. But there's so much debris in the reactor buildings that a robot would have trouble getting in and maneuvering. And they can't even contemplate clearing the debris now.

Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble -- it's not just a financial gas cloud any more.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:18 | Link to Comment FubarNation
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Boron dumps from Heli's.

Then concrete.

Then start constructing the Sarcophagus.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:13 | Link to Comment Byte Me
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We might devise a high borate content concrete - not sure what stability would be like though, not my area.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:09 | Link to Comment moneymutt
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yeah, why haven't they started the entombing days ago...the facility is toast regardless, the real estate is toast now due to radiation...so what does anyone have to lose buy burying it? workers are exposed either way....continuing with the water crap will at best yield same result as concrete entombing (no more radiation and lost facility) but at worst will release WAY more radiation than if entombing had started.

Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:06 | Link to Comment OnTheWaterfront
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Can you imagine how much overtime the workers at that plant are making!!!

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