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Plutonium Found In Fukushima, TEPCO Executive Says "Radioactive Substance Shouldn’t Have Any Impact On Human Health"
Shit just got real. The spin? It is not harmful to human health. Oh really? We can't wait for Kan to eat some plutonium on national TV to confirm this. In the meantime we await the retraction from TEPCO claiming they made a mistake and they really meant platinum not plutonium.
From Kyodo:
Plutonium has been detected in soil at five locations at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Monday.
The operator of the nuclear complex said that the plutonium is believed to have been discharged from nuclear fuel at the plant, which was damaged by the devastating March 11 earthquake and tsunami.
While noting that the concentration level does not pose a risk to human health, the utility firm said it will strengthen monitoring on the environment in and around the nuclear plant.
Meanwhile, high levels of radiation exceeding 1,000 millisieverts per hour have been detected in water in a trench outside the No. 2 reactor's building at the nuclear plant, with the contaminated water suspected to have come from the reactor's core, where fuel rods have partially melted, authorities said Monday.
The government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said the electric power company, known as TEPCO, is expected to pump out similarly highly contaminated water that has been building up in the basement of the No. 2 reactor's turbine building, which is connected to the trench, to eventually remove the water.
The company said the high radiation level in water in the trench connected to the No. 2 complex was detected Sunday, adding that the radiation level in the air in the trench stood at 100 to 300 millisieverts.
At a radiation level of 1,000 millisieverts per hour, people could suffer a decrease in the number of lymphocytes -- a type of white blood cell -- in just 30 minutes, and half could die within 30 days by remaining in such conditions for four hours.
TEPCO also found Sunday afternoon that the radiation level at the surface of the trench water adjacent to the No. 1 complex was 0.4 millisievert per hour. But it could not measure the level at the gutter linked to the No. 3 unit as rubble prevented the firm from checking it, the company added.
Although it remains unknown whether the contaminated water has flowed into the sea from the trenches that are 55 to 70 meters away from the shore, TEPCO suspects the high concentration of radioactive substances found in seawater near the plant reactors' drainage outlets may be linked to the trench water.
Earlier in the day, the nuclear agency said radioactive iodine-131 at a concentration 1,150 times the maximum allowable level was detected Sunday in a seawater sample taken around 1.5 kilometers north of the drainage outlets of the troubled No. 1-4 reactors.
Haruki Madarame, chairman of the Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan, a government panel, told reporters he is ''very worried'' about the high-level radiation detected in water in the trenches, which is outside the radiation-controlled area set by TEPCO.
Reuters confirms that this was merely yet another cover up:
Plutonium has been found in soil at various points within Japan's stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex but does not present a risk to human health, operator Tokyo Electric Power Co <9501.T> (TEPCO) said on Monday.
TEPCO vice-president Sakae Muto told journalists at the company's latest briefing that test results showing the plutonium came from samples taken a week ago.It was the latest bad news from the plant, where evidence of radiation has been mounting and engineers face a protracted battle to control reactors damaged by an earthquake and tsunami on March 11.
From Bloomberg:
March 28 (Bloomberg) -- Tokyo Electric Power Co. found plutonium contamination in soil near the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant that was tested, Sakae Muto, vice president at plant operator, said at a press conference shown on a webcast today.
The plutonium probably came after the accident at the reactors following Japan’s strongest earthquake and tsunami, he said. The radioactive substance shouldn’t have any impact on human health, he said.
Fear not: TEPCO will bravely continue to sacrifice its workers even after this discovery. Per Reuters:
The discovery of plutonium at five places within
Japan's damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex will not cause work
there to be suspended, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co said on
Tuesday.
Attached is a report from the ANS on why this discovery means that Reactor 3 is compromised.
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If it's so irrelevant, why are they testing for it?
Idiot.
One ATOM of plutonium IS irrelevant. Read the post I responded to before calling me an idiot, idiot.
Trav7777, is that you?
Yes, yes we get it. An ATOM is irrelevant.
Why do you always turn to verbal abuse when shoving your info up some one's ass doesn't work? And please don't start the 5 year old "he started it first" baby talk. Show some class, ignore the other babies and just restate your case.
Brother Cog,
From experience...this is how Chinese people argue. They do it at the grammatical level, as well. Just sayin'...and suggesting here that this is a fellow who cares not a whit about anything material to the story. His task is quite contrary to what you might think it is.
Brother Cdad,
I'm quite aware of his task and it has nothing to do with his stated intention. But sometimes someone must stand up to the bully in the room simply to show others that it is possible and you don't need to stoop to their level in order to do so.
Psyops operations and campaigns at times must be confronted. I often say that we are only as sick as our deepest darkest dirtiest secrets. Not speaking about the disinfo and psyops campaigns here on ZH and elsewhere just enables it to continue and that alone makes us even sicker. We must talk about the things we don't wish to talk about.
you fking clown.
You haven't STOOD UP to anything. You roll with the group; that's all you are and all you'll ever be.
Grow a pair of balls and stand up for the UNPOPULAR opinion which happens to be based in fact.
I, unlike you, do not NEED group affirmation as a basis for my self-esteem. I will stand ALONE against everybody if I am right. Your childish attempts at highschoolish peer pressure and shunning tactics will not work.
You're not anybody's brother; you're a sister.
paragraph 1: ad hominem attack
paragraph 2: ad hominem attack
paragraph 3: ad hominem attack, vulgarism
paragraph 4: ad hominem attack, lie, brag, ad hominem attack,
paragraph 5: ad hominem attack, sexual innuendo.
Well done.
For any of you out there that doesn't believe in "cognitive infiltration", think again!
Glen Greenwald on spine-chilling reality. Who decides what an extremist is?
You only like for people to stand up for unpopular opinions that you agree with. If anyone disagrees with you on anything, they are a "fuckwit".
Does this tell you anything about yourself?
Probably not. Bluster on.
Roger roger brother Cog,
Just checkin' in. There is a goodly slug of debunkers of the Asian persuasion here on the boards. Understood as to your purpose in "chatting" with him.
Brother CD,
You told me once to grow up, it was about criticizing evident propaganda stint by mister Dover or whatever his name was, and now suddenly you change tack and define some posters as agent of psyops despite of facts that they are presenting scientific (as we know anything about it anyway) facts and not going into population moulding at all. I assure you it is much more difficult to identify agents than you think, so don't throw around your accusations, please!
Sir,
You need to do some research on what "disinfo" is. Contrary to popular belief, disinfo isn't about spreading actual disinformation. The more sophisticated techniques are designed to divide and conquer, create mayhem and destroy moral and community. And this is exactly what Trav7777 is doing.
He is not working alone, but rather with many others who discuss ways to do precisely what I just described. Trav7777 is not one person, but in fact many and backed up by even more. This is a corporate entity who are blogging guns for hire. They develop IDs and "personalities" that are used to further whatever they are paid to further. There is even commercial software available that they use to keep track of what they have said, people they have interacted with, personality workups of those people they interact with and so on.
This is a war. Disinformation spreading has little to nothing to do with what is going on here. Finally it matters not if someone is or is not an agent if they act like one. The results and effect are the same. Trav7777 is acting as an agent would. That's all that matters.
Addressing me "Sir" is kind of advance for me, thank you. Before I had to do with something about moisture behind my ears or something like that.
When I agree wholeheartedly with you that psyops exists but I can not agree with you about Trav, he presents facts, which are widely teached at universities, if it is true or not. I have to say that I have deep experience of the psyops operations and I've learned about them in my personal life, after 20 years I've discovered that half of my friends were working for them, but I never had any idea about it.
What would you do if everybody said that Fukushima disaster is really bad for N.America? Prevent disaster somehow?
You may give some credit to whatever he says, despite that it doesn't agree with your views without acusations, can you?
on Mon, 03/28/2011 - 12:53
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Of course it does. To a narcissist, any attention, even abject derision, is considered good. That's why you projectile vomit your bile all over the place.
No one is saying you don't make good points Trav7777. It's your abuse, your failure to admit when you're occasionally wrong and your clear racist and sociopath tendencies that fails to win friends and influence people.
Other than that you're an OK guy
You are a fucking LIAR.
I now have absolutely NO respect for you or anything you say.
This tactic you're pulling to try to rally your friends by shouting paranoid conspiracy bullshit is shameless.
You are a FRAUD, Cognitive Dissonance, a complete FRAUD.
You are attempting to discredit me by saying I am a psyop; if anyone here is the psyop it is YOU.
Rebut my facts? No. Slander me as an "enemy of the revolution," yes. Your Stalinist tactics will not go unchallenged. Continue this shit at your own peril.
This Fukushima disaster has been a really good eyeopener for many as we watch people who used to be respected ZHers come unglued. Mosely-Claven is now known to be completely full of shit on every topic and has completely destroyed his credibility and now you seem to wish to do the same thing. Amazing.
There is NOBODY here who believes that I am a psyop...even you don't believe it. But here you are lying your ass off trying to get people to believe it.
Go fuck yourself.
You crossed a line there, chap.
There's a difference between verbal abuse and threats.
There is NOBODY here who believes that I am a psyop.
Wrong. You're actually pretty obvious.
Maybe creatures like you do serve an important function. Maybe if a site like this can be seriously harmed by a thing like you, then it should be. But woe be unto they who do it.
Myself, I won't bother you any more little Trav. I have bigger fish, and must be about frying them.
I would strongly suggest we all back up from accusing each other of being "agents" of whatever sort. All I see now is this thread descending into a paranoia spiral of who is a paid provocateur and who isn't. It's very hard to defend against, and it's even harder than that to prove. Even the guys that are annoying as fuck and never post anything useful or relevant may well just be hyperactive idiots. It's easy to fall into that trap of thinking everything is a conspiracy. And this is coming from a guy that thinks everything is a conspiracy ;)
But seriously, this is just less than worthless by now, this discussion. All I'm learning is that people are, indeed, stupid, and that's something I already figured out on my own.
The fact is, no one here knows what's going on, not Trav, not CD, not TMos, no one. Sure, we all have varying degrees of "knowing", but unless you're there, on the ground, with an array of very fancy and expensive testing apparati and a team of experts to help you analyze the data and arrive at factual conclusions, you really don't know. Hell, not even the Fukushima 50 have that, as far as we can tell, otherwise we might be getting some useful data out of them.
Everyone just needs to shut the fuck up, smoke a bowl (or have a scotch or shoot up some H, or whatever it is the fuck you do to chill) and just re-fucking-lax. Because at this point, I'm beginning to think that ALL of you are dis/mis-info specialists and I'm the only real person here. How's THAT for narcissism? Fuck you, I have you all beat.
I am Chumbawamba.
"Let us not tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories..." George W. Bush
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Please elaborate.
I understand, and if you are called to wrestle with these creatures then do it. But don't let all your time be consumed by them. They are legion.
If people, like yourself, who can create good content end up spending all their time on creatures like Johnny Bravo (moment of silence) and Trav6666, then this site is diminished, and they win.
You have done some very good work in comments recently, talking in general terms about how these creatures are created and tasked. Why not make that an article and see if Tyler goes for it? Then let the dwimmerlaiks howl after you.
As far as direct interaction with creatures like Trav, a wise man very recently pointed out that shunning may also be effective.
No it wasn't me.
But stop being a fucking PUNK, CD.
Instead of worrying yourself about whether your followers will turn against you, why don't you stand up for this guy? He stated the TRUTH. ONE ATOM will not kill you. this is EXPLICITLY what the guy said who he responded to and in exchange for that, the ZHeeple jumped the fuck all over him.
Where the fuck are YOU as self-appointed shepherd and rational guru to interject in his defense? Nowhere. Instead you snipe at him fom the peanut gallery. Just like you do to anyone who might be a threat to your little guru status. No overt challenges, just subtle triangulation erosion of their credibilty as you get the chance to do so.
Spotlight wanting COWARD. Grow a spine and STAND UP for the truth, you bitches.
Oh, Puh-lease! You are now posing yourself as the arbiter of good behavior on ZH? You accuse posters who argue against the ZH norm (as you define it) as being psy-op tools, and now you want to police your concept of conduct here on your precious "community".
You don't set the rule, and I'm not playing your game. If I want to respond in schoolyard fashion (because it's fun to do bad things!) that's my call.
I agree...I guess I should have known it was a matter of time before when challenged, CD would pull out the slander tactic, but I am really surprised by the cravenness of it and the premeditation of the attacks.
I really don't care when someone like bob or mosely-claven disagrees with me because they are idiots. But, CD was supposed to have earned some respect and blathered about how much of a freethinker he was.
Yet, as self-proclaimed behavior cop, where was he to interject on behalf of those telling the truth? NOWHERE.
Who did?? CHUMBA did. Fucking Chumba. And there are a few baghead icons who've piped up (only to be called psyops or sockpuppets).
CD has his own agenda and it's to create a forum like Douchinger has, where HE sets the message and everyone sits around like happy puppies listening to the guru. He is now ACTIVELY stifling dissent by trying to silence dissenters. Fuck the revolution; this isn't a revolution, it's a group of people who want to be the New Boss.
If Durden has any scruples, he will revoke CD's posting privileges and tell him to GTFO.
Then do us all a favor and go volunteer for cleanup duty at Reactor #3 jackass. We'll see how irrelevant you think discovering that any quantity of plutonium has been released is then.
JFC...as if on CUE.
You people are COMPLETE MORONS.
He is cursing you the SAME AS I DO because of your IDIOTIC reaction to simple FACTS that serve to attenuate your fucking hysteria!
I don't care how right you may be. But you're a perpetual penis.
Correction, small penis, since you must be compensating or something.
RELAX BRO
I disagree; I come here for the truth because I can't get it anywhere else. Trav, according to my research has been more right than wrong. Quiet frequently. If tards didn't react with abject ignorance constantly it wouldn't be a problem. Once, fair enough. But you can all obviously read. Wishing for doomsday doesn't change the facts. Ground yourselves, there is plenty of time to run in circles with your hands in the air and ring your friends to say “I told you so”.
I don't really care how the truth is delivered.
Hear hear.
Few dispute that Trav7777 has been correct in many areas. Yes, there are some who would. But most here agree that Trav7777 has and is correct in many areas. Period. Full stop. End of sentence.
But Trav7777 will never admit when he is wrong. Never. When he's confronted with examples of how he is wrong he ramps up the verbal abuse, then disappears from the thread/discussion and moves on. He's done it with me on two occasions, the last time when unit 3 exploded. I commented that unit 3 had MOX fuel and he screamed and hollered that it did not, then he mocked a source (The Guardian) that I offered and ignored the second source. A few hours later he was telling everyone that unit 3 had MOX fuel.
There are very specific reasons for why he does this. And it has nothing to do with a damaged psyche.
You're factually in error.
I said that MOX wasn't the black death as you claimed it was. I said it was not much different from ordinary U fuel.
I was right; you weren't.
I at NO point claimed that #3 didn't have MOX fuel and I would never have done such a thing without fact checking BEFORE I said it. That is how I do things. Facts first, THEN speak. And in doing so, it would have been immediately apparent that MOX was present in #3; that fact was obvious.
So far you have only that I misread 500mg as 500g. You need to do better than this.
No, you are factually in error. I checked up on your claim - comment #1109997
And it's total bullshit. You replied that there were a dozen! LOL
Hey, Trav, what's a half-kilo again?
FYI, there is no such thing as half life when you are talking about a single atom. The lifetime of a single atom is totally random. A half life is only a significant measure when there are large numbers of atoms present.
Plutonium is extremely dangerous if it gets into your body, as its biological half life is 50 years. The main way it can get in is inhalation. As such, it is tough to get a significant dose unless you are swimming in the stuff. It will also absorb through a wound. It has hardly absorbed at all in the GI tract, so long as the dose doesn't cause acute damage before it passes.
This is tremendously bad, however. Even after saying all that, you won't catch my ass setting foot in any area that is contaminated with Pu.
For those saying one atom is lethal, GTFO. The lethal dose is 10 ug, which is on the order of 10^18th atoms.
The lifetime of a single atom is random, but the probability of decay is not. I can't tell if the next toss of a coin will be heads or tails, but the odds remains 50-50. Similarly for that single atom of Pu...the lifetime can't be known, but the probability of decay is indicated by the half life.
Totally agree on staying away from Pu. Now let's define what constitutes "contaminated with Pu"...is there any place on earth that has no Plutonium at all?
Let's not.
Let's not split hairs or try to minimize how toxic Plutonium is.
You are a troll.
Get lost.
jesus fucking christ...so when presented with the FACTS, you say "let us not split hairs"!?!??
The prosecution RESTS. You idiots do not WANT the facts. You want a group affirmation so you can all be paranoid and hysterical together.
You are WORTHLESS
What "facts" are you talking about?Plutonium is in the environs of the plant now.Fact.
Irrelevant bitching about 1 atom vs a speck is just a distraction, hairsplitting crap.No one there will inhale a single atom, it will be tiny specks...and it will kill them.They will get lung cancer.ASSHOLES who focus on inane trivialities while ignoring the very real dangers are worse than useless.
Tell me plutonium is harmless.Tell me it is a good thing to get in the groundwater, a good thing to have in the soil.Tell me it is innocuous you stupid troll.
No it won't kill them. Tiny specks will most likely be excreted from the body via a variety of means.
You people are afraid of facts, aren't you? The truth here will set you free and make you feel less afraid and paranoid.
Oh, but wait, I'm mistakenly assuming that's what you want...
I'm coming at this from the angle of presuming that people who are irrationally afraid would want the benefit of education so as to be relieved of their fears. You don't. You want your fears REINFORCED.
You and most of this board are junkies for paranoia.
I won't and haven't told you it's harmless. I told you it's LESS DANGEROUS than you believe. Not harmless. I won't and haven't told you that it is a good thing to get into the groundwater or good to have in the soil.
However, these statements you say NOW are not what you said EARLIER and what I responded to, are they?
Wow, I feel much better now Doctor.My Other Doctor friends from that joke of a diploma mill Duke University disagree with your position.They think inhaling particles of Plutonium is contraindicated for a long healthy life.Thanks for setting me straight!
Hey, isn't it time for you to feed the unicorn?
Tiny specks will most likely be excreted from the body via a variety of means.
Trav777, in reply to a post hypothesising that lung cancer will result from inhaling tiny specks
I've been reading around a little, Trav, and I'm afraid I haven't found (in my admittedly rather brief) reading much evidence supporting your statement. From the EPA's website (http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/radionuclides/plutonium.html#body):
When inhaled, plutonium can remain in the lungs depending upon its particle size and how well the particular chemical form dissolves. The chemical forms that dissolve less easily may lodge in the lungs or move out with phlegm, and either be swallowed or spit out. But, the lungs may absorb chemical forms that dissolve more easily and pass them into the bloodstream.
Once in the bloodstream, plutonium moves throughout the body and into the bones, liver, or other body organs. Plutonium that reaches body organs generally stays in the body for decades and continues to expose the surrounding tissue to radiation.
A few other sources...
American Nuclear Society (supposedly): http://www.ccnr.org/plute_tox.html
Inhalation Toxicology Research Institute: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8927705
All affirm that lung cancer will result from inhaling Plutonium.
Just to show some balance... you might like this: http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/inhale.htm
So there it is. The mighty Trav is... wrong! Nah nah na nah nahhhh, pbpbpbpbpbpbpb (and other childish raspberry noises)
It doesn't get in the water, because it doesn't dissolve in water. It's an excellent thing to have in the soil; because it's out of the way, and it doesn't bother anyone. Every human's mother's milk is contaminated with Radio-active strontium almost entirely as a result of above ground weapons testing; so far this appears to be irrellevant. The public health radiation burden from this power plant in Japan will be in-consequential.
I have NO idea why you were junked for this. Seriously. This is not only entirely correct, but also a valid question.
When we're talking about almost any type of element, there is at least an atom of it nearby. An atom is such a mindbogglingly small amount that it doesn't matter, so saying that there is one atom of Pu somewhere means nothing. The question, which Team asks, is what is the threshold for actual, dangerous contamination? I would very much like to know the answer to that myself.
Fukushima may very well be past that line. It probably is. But why are people junking him for asking a legit question?
wait, did you just decide to do the research?
10 ug is NOT THE LD50 of Pu.
there is NO EVIDENCE whatsoever of that.
If you right now google "plutonium LD50" you're not going to find SHIT for references to back that up. What you WILL find are discussions of how ABSURD that 10 ug LD50 is.
Fuck, man, do you bother CHECKING SHIT before you open your mouth?
biological half-life is more like 200 yrs
BLUSTER BLUSTER BLUSTER.
Hows this for stupid--you think that there is only one type of plutonium, and that as such there is a single number for any and all toxicity data.
Also, your dumb ass has not once come up with a single number in this discussion. All you have said is "you are wrong STUPID" to anyone and everyone in the thread.
Face it, it's time for you to move on.
Awesome...another set of non sequiturs.
The fact remains that your original statement was false. I do applaud you for indirectly admitting that.
But now you hope to deflect attention to that by saying that I don't know about other Pu isotopes? Really? Are you stupid enough to think this will work? We should take a poll to see if anyone believes that *I* do not know about other Pu isotopes.
Continue on tmo--there is no escape for you now. Your own pride will be your downfall. You simply cannot resist proceeding headlong into the trap I've set for you. I am going to literally take you the fuck apart. The only chance you have to save yourself is to shut up and retreat.
When I am done with you if you say the sky is blue nobody is going to believe you.
A "microscopic speck" of Pu will contain several billions of atoms. So while your post is technically and mathematically correct for one single atom, you need to scale up the risk factor by a billion or so to get a real life (or death) answer.
Yes, I do realize that. Thank you for a civilized reply.
no; this isn't accurate.
What you'd need to do is plot exposure rates in grams versus death rates due to the Pu. Only that could provide a true toxicity estimate, and hasn't been done. There are really very few true studies of Pu toxicity outside of downwind nuke test people, Manhattan Project employees, and some "terminal" patients injected with 5 ug of the stuff IIRC in the 60s.
An exaggerated LD50 is derived by assuming a whole body exposure of every becquerel of every atom. There is actually some professor somewhere who issued a challenge to eat, gram-for-gram, plutonium against caffeine (LD50 of 13g).
Professors do good work...in vacuums and labs. Sometimes reality creeps in and fucks everything up.
If I lived in a vacuum, I would be politically correct, scientifically perfect, and probably a hippie. But I don't, so I am not any of those.
We all get the point, and it is a very important and valid point. But you simply don't have any more info than they are willing to give us at the moment. Usually the best course of action with something like this is to hope for the best, but plan for the worst. Hope is usually not your best strategy, unless you're a professor, and live in a controlled environment.
That is exactly what people /should/ be doing. However, an orgy of nonfactual fear is exactly the same thing the Bush&Co did. Why people on this board are so hellbent on swallowing the salty load of fear is beyond me. People here should be smarter. You get smarter by doing research. Failure to research a topic, yet commenting on it is silly and ignorant.
Its ok to be arrogant, as long as you're compotent.
Its ok to be incompotent, as long as you're not arrogant.
Its not ok to be both arrogant and incompotent.
I don't think it's okay to be arrogant, as long as you're competent, though it does make it more tolerable.
It seems, from what I've looked at, that a definitive answer on the lethality levels of Pu isn't a settled question, as research into isn't exactly easy. If anyone has any additional info, I'd be happy to see it, but let's just all agree that the amount of plutonium released by the reactor is probably well north of "frack me" levels.
This is the second dumbest thing you have said in this thread. No-one is talking about toxicity by ingestion. We are talking about inhalation.
And all of your blather over the toxicity levels of Pu is doing is distracting from the fact that the FUCKING CORE IS BREACHED.
If you are talking about inhalation; you're wasting your time, and inhalations. because there's nothing to inhale; it's on the ground; doofus. what part of "on the ground" do you not understand" Furthermore, "the core is breached" has no meaning as a statement. The core, which is, primarily an assembly of fuel elements, is inside the thick steel reactor vessel right where it started out, and it will stay there; it is neither "breached", nor "un-breached"; this language has no meaning.
From a dusty archive:
Keep the fighting going. There are nuggets of information here and there, and between them the displays of paranoia and schizophrenia are quality entertainment, considering the price.
Look at this shit; they junk you for telling the truth in a calm and rational manner.
I junked you because as far as I can tell, your assertion is completely false.
according to the DoE, supposedly 5000 particles of 3microns wide, inhaled, results in a 1% increased lifetime risk, over the background population, of cancer. Not lung though -- the "hot particle" theory, where a particle inhaled was thought to irradiate lung tissue, has been disproven. Apparently the particles don't stay in the lung tissue long enough.
Instead they travel throughout the body and stay in various tissue for decades, irradiating them.
Even better, whomever wrote the "Toxicity" section of the wikipedia article on Plutonium ended it with "Plutonium has a metallic taste."
Yeah, sounds sensible, I know it's all just speculation. You gotta love the "metallic taste" part; very dedicated chemist, apparently.
This is good news only for insane Malthusians.
This is ULTRA HORRIBLE news.
An example of how partial reality is incrementally released into public consciousness. This was no ‘screw-up’ or ‘mistake.’ Instituting this component of the Malthusian plan began long before the earthquake. When the Ghouls in Charge made the decision to store the spent fuel rods atop the reactors in the late 1960’s the plan was begun. When we saw the exploded debris ejected 3000 foot high into the air which likely included thousands of the accumulated 650,000 plus spent rods (Including the MOX fuel rods) the plan was in motion. The only reason we even know of this is because some guy with a cell phone cam caught it and posted the images on the net. It’s not just in the soil around the plant. It’s not just the poor Japanese in the area of the reactor like the propaganda media is B.S.-ing. Other than botulism, plutonium is the most deadly substance on earth. Besides the Japanese, who are as a nation are severely wounded, both physically and economically, we are under attack as well. The poison is continuously airborne. Perhaps thousands of those spent rods are now contaminating and killing off the Pacific Ocean.
I saw a CNN clip this week-end ‘reporting’ on the disaster. Astoundingly they ran only pre-earthquake video footage of the reactor complex (undamaged) while they minimized the current threat…This (as was the Gulf of Mexico) is another segment of the Malthusian catastrophe now underway. (IMO)
Who is the enemy?
the enemy is the reactor site at fukushima. Daay--oh; Daaa--oh!
Don't worry, they are working on a plan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iesXUFOlWC0
Link to Plutonium Story?
Anybody?
I can't find anything.
Edit--as I read the technical brief, two questions come screaming out front:
If there is plutonium on the ground, then it is from inside the reactor???
There were no spent MOX rods in storage???
no. no spent rods.
http://english.kyodonews.jp is the source.
All the rods will have some plutonium in them as it is a byproduct of fission, so MOX or not, it is expected.
And considering my home is/was 100 miles from Fukushima I am following this story very closely, although now from about 6000 miles away from my home.
OK. Remo. Thanks.
Hope you and yours stay well.
Pu, as in (POOO) pellets on the ground. Like rabbit shit, it's good for your garden. MUCH better than miracle grow, and just in time for Spring, how nice.
Tomaaaaccoooo
Oooohhh, OOOHhh, pick me, pick me, I know the answer...
The levels of plutonium were within the expected range of values normal to the vicinity of the Fukushima power plant.
There is no cause to be concerned.
The situation will be closely monitored and additional information will be provided if the need arises.
Thank you.
Have a nice day.
Nice! Very good, Convolved.
Now, go buy some UnicornDew futures and complete the underpants gnome cycle.
Do I get extra credit?
Convolved,
Completing the Underpants gnome cycle is reward in and of itself. Once you have joined the herd of galloping unicorns, you will feel free and newly born again. You will have thrown off all negative energy, and plutonium will never be able to touch you. You will be evolved...and only a few post secondary classes away from becoming a criminal syndicate Wall Street banker.
Good for you!
My mother is going to be so proud of me!
My dad said I would never be anything but a wastrel.
maybe.
Gold isn't radioactive! Quick buy the only money that can survive nuclear holocaust. From here,
"Gold has only one stable isotope, so all natural gold has an atomic weight of about 197 (called Au- 197), and this isotope has a reasonably high neutron activation cross- section. So exploding a nuclear weapon would probably lead to a lot of radioactive gold. However, there is only one isotope of gold that has a half-life of more than a few days (Au-195, 186 days), and it is impossible to produce this isotope by neutron irradiation. So any radioactive gold would lose its induced radioactivity within a month or so."
Robusty.
so you're saying Auric Goldfinger got sucked out of a tiny hole in the side of an airplane for nothing?
All the money made by the banks shorting the Nikkei and the Yen, and the continued profits from ythe crash.
That's your bullish GDP.
Anyone have a round up on how far this has spread in the US? Ma has radioactive water, Wa has Cesium, Colorado detected something, Nevada and Wa have elevtaed background radiation. The piss colored French animation showed the entire Northern hemisphere covered by now.
I have yet to read anything from BC, fuck aren't the Canucks worried?
To me it doesn't look good but I'm no expert.
Progress Energy has detected iodine in SC, Fla, and I think now NC.
They probably use LSC, so they can pick up incredibly minute amounts. Nothing that will harm you. Well, at least not yet.
pods
I'm no expert either, but 6000 miles is pretty far.
Do not underestimate the power of the emperor..you do believe, don't you?
...Even though there has been no mention of descent from god, or toyal weddings, or Santa Claus.
here's Bueller's response....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_ZxTB8mqbk&feature=player_embedded
I don't believe it.
I don't believe anything
I used to believe in Santa Claus!
But then I turned 34 and found out HE WAS A FRAUD!!
I use to believe in Santa Claus too but one year I got no presents. I guess it was because Bernie was in jail.
Even worse, a devout Keynsian!!!!
You mean he´s not real...?
You just ruined my day, BUMMER!
He works for the shlepps at Goldman Sachs.
You only liked him because you thought he was leaving presents.
Little did you know he was stealing the mortgage through the chimney like many other figures of fiat-imagination.
Good response.
No need for you to believe ... Wanker !
would you believe cherry blossoms are pouring out of the reactor? would that be more in line with your rosy world view?
Because explosions are really good at keeping things in their original place?
Did you confuse the explosions with "implosions"?
Or do you just not believe in the existence plutonium?
That's ok... no one ever believes you..
LOL
HABEEB IT!
Here is a great business opp for you Harry. Put a little radiation detector in each car air freshener you sell at your bustling retail outlets.
HarryWang sells urinal cakes.
Now with radiostat meters built in, Harry?
Power too cheap to meter...
Believe it
Japaneese say reactor go boom...
Give me a C give me an H Give me an E....... what dose it spell?
chemiluminescent?
neutron death ray
bullish
Conviction bullish.
Toupees, go long or short?
Herman Strand-Schnecke
Call it Zero Point Energy. It is the free energy from the environment around you! Tepco is fulfilling the dream of endless energy for the people!
BTFD!!
It is nice to know spaceship earth has fuel for blastoff
Now we have an intraday selloff, and I see that the JP Morgue is still green and unfazed from the brief panic.
And of course, TZOO is still locked in an epic squeeze, it is STILL going higher.
Oh I have to go to TZOO ... where in the world should I go:
Eygpy - not
Asia (wide) - not
UK - not
West coast US - not
West coast Canada - not
Libya - not for two months
Chile - I heard Obama was there - not for two months
Another day, another content-free post from RoboTroll.
russell +5% today on this good news??
TEPCO says not to worry:
I have nothing pertinent to say, just don't want to have to sign in again later.
I am glad I didn't have children, however.
We all share your gladness...
+1
zero hedge is busy, sorry for the double post.
This hits a little close to home...
a duplex?
plutonium pellets are the sea shells of the future!!!
That's not phosphorescent algae. Its Plutonium!
Everyone in! The water's warm!
FUKUSHIMA HOT SPRINGS!!!
I SMELL MONEYMAKER!!
Can't wait untill they launch the IPO!
Will exfoliate your skin in seconds!
complementary facial peel!
Organs too!
You can't get treatment like this anywhere else, folks!
Plutonium "Glow Beads"... you can string them together into a necklace... glow in the dark, glow in the daylight.... new must have for rave parties !
The really rare ones still have a zirchonium sheen.
Harry this is the opportunity of a lifetime to get in on the ground floor of this new retailing fad, its going viral bro !
It's been all just pablum, promises, prognostications and poop. Sine the very start it's doomed. Fucking doom. Anything else is pretend.
Another triumph of conflicted governmental diktat.
Ann Coulter has offered to buy the lot.
She must hope to find other giant cockroaches to breed with.
new cnbc slogan = spend money fast before you die.
or with regard to the economy and why stocks must be purchased:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytx86P4gkPs
buffet says buy the dip in the japan stocks
DO YOU HEAR: BTFD until your glowing in the dark and your teeth and hair are on the floor..
buffet says" man with no stock in hand is unhappy numba 10 man.
buy the fear god dam it, you will be the richest person in the cemetery
We'll soon be informed plutonium is good for you and makes a great exfoliating face wash. Ann Coulter will probably go on Fox and say she's making a house out of it because it makes her feel GREAT!
DDT is good for me!
Don't mess with DDT. The Silent Spring and the deprecation of DDT has killed thousands in malaria infested areas. Thousands more than radiation ever killed.
DDT is perhaps the only agent that is widely effective against malaria carrying mosquitos and the stopping of its use because of fear to soft shelled bird eggs is criminal.
This is one case where the fear of DDT was far worse than disease of DDT, and even farther worse than the disease of malaria.
Yeah, the DDT problem was mainly of application. But, organochlorines are not to be looked at lightly. Most are deadly toxins. DDT, Dioxin, Chlordane, etc.
In fact, about the only harmless organochlorine is surcralose. They think.
Ummm, Splenda!
pods
If it works for Fluorides why not Plutonium?
Plutonium is wonderful tossed with a balsamic vinaigrette with goat cheese over some arugula.
i laughed at that one, unfortunately
And don't forget to top it all off which a bit of sea salt , preferably the irradiated variety. It's a delicacy.
Perhaps it will also help reduce the size of her adams apple
It's not his adam's apple, it is his thyroid, or someone threw him down and shit in his mouth for what was truly deserved.
ROFLMAO!
pods
it's OK...it's the good kind of Plutonium.
Absolutely, its been laying there for over a week, if it were bad plutonium they would have said so.
Weatheronline UK, dispersement models.
http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/news/fukushima
Right hand column.
Tokyo looks ok, but looks to be coming our way.
I heard a Japanese authority (on NHK 3/28/2011) implying all you need to protect yourself from plutonium is a piece of paper.
Yeah, it's called a one-way ticket out of Japan.