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Plutonium Found In Fukushima, TEPCO Executive Says "Radioactive Substance Shouldn’t Have Any Impact On Human Health"
Shit just got real. The spin? It is not harmful to human health. Oh really? We can't wait for Kan to eat some plutonium on national TV to confirm this. In the meantime we await the retraction from TEPCO claiming they made a mistake and they really meant platinum not plutonium.
From Kyodo:
Plutonium has been detected in soil at five locations at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Monday.
The operator of the nuclear complex said that the plutonium is believed to have been discharged from nuclear fuel at the plant, which was damaged by the devastating March 11 earthquake and tsunami.
While noting that the concentration level does not pose a risk to human health, the utility firm said it will strengthen monitoring on the environment in and around the nuclear plant.
Meanwhile, high levels of radiation exceeding 1,000 millisieverts per hour have been detected in water in a trench outside the No. 2 reactor's building at the nuclear plant, with the contaminated water suspected to have come from the reactor's core, where fuel rods have partially melted, authorities said Monday.
The government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said the electric power company, known as TEPCO, is expected to pump out similarly highly contaminated water that has been building up in the basement of the No. 2 reactor's turbine building, which is connected to the trench, to eventually remove the water.
The company said the high radiation level in water in the trench connected to the No. 2 complex was detected Sunday, adding that the radiation level in the air in the trench stood at 100 to 300 millisieverts.
At a radiation level of 1,000 millisieverts per hour, people could suffer a decrease in the number of lymphocytes -- a type of white blood cell -- in just 30 minutes, and half could die within 30 days by remaining in such conditions for four hours.
TEPCO also found Sunday afternoon that the radiation level at the surface of the trench water adjacent to the No. 1 complex was 0.4 millisievert per hour. But it could not measure the level at the gutter linked to the No. 3 unit as rubble prevented the firm from checking it, the company added.
Although it remains unknown whether the contaminated water has flowed into the sea from the trenches that are 55 to 70 meters away from the shore, TEPCO suspects the high concentration of radioactive substances found in seawater near the plant reactors' drainage outlets may be linked to the trench water.
Earlier in the day, the nuclear agency said radioactive iodine-131 at a concentration 1,150 times the maximum allowable level was detected Sunday in a seawater sample taken around 1.5 kilometers north of the drainage outlets of the troubled No. 1-4 reactors.
Haruki Madarame, chairman of the Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan, a government panel, told reporters he is ''very worried'' about the high-level radiation detected in water in the trenches, which is outside the radiation-controlled area set by TEPCO.
Reuters confirms that this was merely yet another cover up:
Plutonium has been found in soil at various points within Japan's stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex but does not present a risk to human health, operator Tokyo Electric Power Co <9501.T> (TEPCO) said on Monday.
TEPCO vice-president Sakae Muto told journalists at the company's latest briefing that test results showing the plutonium came from samples taken a week ago.It was the latest bad news from the plant, where evidence of radiation has been mounting and engineers face a protracted battle to control reactors damaged by an earthquake and tsunami on March 11.
From Bloomberg:
March 28 (Bloomberg) -- Tokyo Electric Power Co. found plutonium contamination in soil near the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant that was tested, Sakae Muto, vice president at plant operator, said at a press conference shown on a webcast today.
The plutonium probably came after the accident at the reactors following Japan’s strongest earthquake and tsunami, he said. The radioactive substance shouldn’t have any impact on human health, he said.
Fear not: TEPCO will bravely continue to sacrifice its workers even after this discovery. Per Reuters:
The discovery of plutonium at five places within
Japan's damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex will not cause work
there to be suspended, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co said on
Tuesday.
Attached is a report from the ANS on why this discovery means that Reactor 3 is compromised.
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when you're dead, radiation doesnt matter.
or, maybe instead of plutonium they said platinum.
BEAM ME UP!!!
Feel this video is somewhat relevant at the moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s2iVKKI
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/3761
israeli company in charge of "security" for united states nuclear energy plants.
possible nuclear blackmail.........via ........stuxnet usb bus....thumb drives
Possible, non ?
YES!!!!
Stuxnet somehow got injected into the continental plates and caused that earthquake...the virus then washed ashore in the resulting tsunami and then infected the systems at the plant.
Relax, Tepco will come up and say they made a mistake. It wasn't plutonium but mustard seeds.
Goldman Sachs Employees Told Not to Leave Japan
Excellent!!!
They should transfer some from the US to help out.
great same for BofA, Citi, JPM.
they are doing God's work so He will protect them from radiation
Japanese Plutonium Watercress Lychee Salad
1 lb Zirconium-95 Watercress (Reactor Drainpipe Brand recommended)
1/4 cup Caesium-137 lychee, peeled and cut into quarters
1/4 cup Caesium-134 vinegar
4 teaspoons Molybdenum-99 sugar
salt (with Iodine-131) to taste
1 tsp plutonium
Save time - don't bother washing anything, as radiation already ensures nothing is alive! Toss ingredients together and sit on widowsill (pun intended) near open window for maximum exposure to Xenon-133 for added flavor and sterilization.
sprinkle plutonium over top and serve!
Serves: entire country, for about 80 years
MMMmm, sounds yummy.
It's not fattening is it?
Hate to regain the weight I lost from chemo.
Aw who cares? One wouldn't even get the chance to notice if they gained weight.
Maybe we should change the recipe name to Japanese Hara-Kiri Watercress Salad? Or simply Suicide Salad for us western round-eyes?
The ANS report is no better than TEPCO.
"it can be concluded that MOX fuel has had and will have no perceptible impact on any consequences from the event."
Right. The science is closed.
"Hey, friend, were you irradiated by Unit 2 or Unit 3?"
"Funny you should ask...I heard that getting irradiated by Unit 2 is bullish for reprocessing companies"
The French reprocess their own spent fuel (as well as some from other countries) at an added cost of 6% to utility users, preventing the massive buildup of spent rods occurring in the US and elsewhere.
Wish someone would ask Pres. Carter how his 1977 non-proliferation based defunding of the proposed US reprocessing program is working out for him, and do it before he were to ever be exposed to any cataclysmic, worldwide radiation release from, say, a multiple-reactor meltdown event somewhere, or a terrorist attack on any of the hundreds of spent fuel pools around the globe.
The French have no answer for long-term storage. They are not much better than Japan on corporate safety culture. And their national pride is definitely a big impediment to any improvements.
Reprocessing isn't 'safe'. It can be managed well or poorly. But there is no silver bullet in energy policy. It's a very tough balancing act whichever way you try to go.
Is there a moneyed or ruthless interest in not cleaning this disaster up?
Or is it just plain good ol' incompetence?
Why not seal it up like they did Chernobyl?
Edit: I guess they can't tunnel under it since it's right above the water table...
Being a Keynsian, the more shit that gets messed up the more stimulus to the economy when everything has to be rebuilt and made safe again.
<sarc off>
TEPCO: Mistook Bipedal Life Forms for Radiation-Hardened Battle Androids, Retracts All Reassuring Health Statements
Fucking LOL.
rawr
Slightly more bearish than the mercury filled light bulbs going into our landfills.
Seriously which is worse, the governments which are destroying this planet or the people who put them in power? Perhaps Obama can be of use by going to Fukushima and vacuming out the plutonium from the basements, perhaps not because he would probably use the wrong end of the vacume hose.
They found plutonium-238, -239, and -240.
I hope you also read my blog about Reactor Pressure Vessels in Reactors 1, 2, 3 probably have holes at the bottoms, and that the holes may have been made by the melted fuel rods. I linked it in one of the articles very late last night.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-reactor-pressu...
History question for ZH:
Did Chernobyl release plutonium into the environment? If so, how much??
yes, it did. However, the major contamination associated with chernobyl was not Pu-related; it was cesium and iodine isotopes, which are lighter and were carried far on the wind.
I assume this was junked simply because Trav is a flaming bunghole.
The content is accurate however.
it was junked because it tended to attenuate, as opposed to reinforce, hysteria on the present topic.
think about it: had I jumped on the panic bandwagon, I'd be in the clique and one of the best-liked posters on the board.
Nobody ever directly challenges my facts. Instead you will see responses direct me to send my kids to Fukushima, and the rest will claim that by disputing exaggerations of fact that I am saying everything is A-OK and it's time to go for some ecotourism at plant #3.
No, you would be well liked on this board if you didn't insult anyone and everyone who disagrees with you, or who posts incorrect information.
Further, your stubbornness in not seeing the seriousness of the situation, given that there is a fucking hole in the vessel of at least one of those reactors, is on par with the opium haze of trolls like Harry Wanger.
Also, you hate black people, which is annoying.
Cliff that "anyone and everyone" is mostly YOU.
I have at no point said the situation wasn't serious.
In fact last week I said it moved from "dire to desperate." How much more precise verbiage do you require for articulation?
I don't hate black people in the slightest. I disclose what you would call "hate facts" about them. Like the ratio of black on white to white on black rapes, which is approximately infinity.
People like you want to believe that everybody is the same, but when you have a hate fact like that shoved in your face it makes you angry. Don't blame me, blame the people committing the acts.
Travis: Your rape stats are misleading in that the "white prize" is much more alluring than the other way around..
Travis: Your rape stats are misleading in that the "white prize" is much more alluring than the other way around..
Travis: Your rape stats are misleading in that the "white prize" is much more alluring than the other way around..
check the stats on same race rapes white versus black. You will find out that you are not entirely correct.
Pu is not worse than Cs-137.
Pu's toxicity is exaggerated; one microgram will not kill all life on earth. There is absolutely no real EVIDENCE as to the toxicity of this element other than some animal studies, some longitudinal looks at 1940s Los Alamos workers who inhaled this stuff, and some declass'd shit where they intentionally injected some of the terminally ill with 5 ug of Pu in solution.
Cs137 and Sr90 are the risks. Pu contamination is expected as a result of liberation of reactor steam and possibly due to whatever fire happened before they started dropping helo water.
I would recommend that EVERYBODY HERE at least google Plutonium and start at a minimum on the wiki page, which in the case of elements, is generally highly-reliable and diligently sourced. Do not rely on the "good word" of MSM talking heads to convince you of the risk of something.
EXACTLY RIGHT! Idiot poster "janchup" above says one atom of Pu will kill you dead...he couldn't be more wrong, but I got junked mightly for saying so.
i'm up to 4 junks and rising...for suggesting people do research.
Now we just can't have that, now can we?
NOW HEAR THIS...NOW HEAR THIS...all members of ZeroHedge are specifically advised to avoid factual research at all costs.
The facts are like plutonium to this community
You are no longer getting junks for your comments, but because everyone now actively hates you.
Congratulations.
No shit huh?
Guess what, cliff...I don't care!
If I have to choose between standing with the truth or being popular, I choose the truth.
that is the difference between me and you, besides my extra 100 IQ points.
You can stand for the truth somewhere else, then. God help us all if you happen to be right on something, because the extreme inflammatory nature of your posts makes any and all fence sitters want to get on the other side.
You have an IQ of 261? Shouldn't you be in Japan using your telekinetic powers to seal up those reactors?
if your IQ were 161, then yes, Cliff I would have an IQ of 261.
We both know that neither of these facts are actually true, first because there is no way you scored a 4 sigma IQ on any real test and 2ndly because SB long form doesn't go up to 261.
you just enraged them, like robotrader, they don't look at the content, they look for the name! Just cool down and give us your input without personal attacks in it. I understand you, you must be person of similar character as mine but I work hard on containing my inner urge to trash my opponents at the spot and sometimes it turns out that they were right and I thank God I did not do it.
learn something new everyday..
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf15.html
that is another good reference page.
Note how I did not recommend research here condescendingly...
However, when I see tmosely or bob respond with a suggestion I feed it to my children, well...I'm going to have to assume they're not in this for the education
More radioactive water spills at Japan nuke plant, 28 March 2011, by Shino Yuasa - Tokyo (Associated Press) http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_17717808?nclick_check=1
Then today, officials with Tokyo Electric Power Co., which owns and runs the complex, said that workers had found more radioactive water in deep trenches used for pipes and electrical wiring outside three units.
The contaminated water has been emitting radiation exposures more than four times the amount that the government considers safe for workers*.
* "more than four the amount that the government considers safe for workers" = More than 4X 250 mSv/YEAR so 1000 mSv/YEAR
See: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203916.msg1219205#msg1219205
BE AWARE: In the article they mean 1000 mSv/HOUR !!!
UPDATE, Noon, Sunday, March 27, 2011, http://nirs.org/reactorwatch/accidents/Fukushimafactsheet.pdf
100 rems/hour would be consistent with the levels encountered by the injured workers.
Where are the link to the stories?
Bloomberg is not reporting this on its site.
You don't say...Bloomberg is "not reporting?" No shit? Shocking!
The link is on the back of Tyler's head. If you are tight with him, you can lift a small patch of hair there to reveal a USB port. However, if you are using Bloomberg, your shit will likely be overloaded and crash.
Buy UnicornDew futures now.
Good luck.
Yep, following Bloomberg & CNBC will do a person good in this world.
Hopium-U812 for the masses!
/sarc
Here's bloomberg's coverage . . .buried in a Marriott headline. . .now they can say they reported it. . .
http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aoHi60tnGeWI
From NHK
16 tons of water was being injected into the reactor every hour but TEPCO now says it wants to reduce the amount to 7 tons. This would be enough to replace the amount that is evaporating..."
Doesn't that mean that 9 tons of radioactive water is leaking from reactor #2 every hour! I guess it is better to have just 7 tons of radioactive steam per hour but where do you put it?
This is bullish for Japanese Agriculture! Check out the size of the cucumbers they are harvesting now:
http://www.onlineweblibrary.com/news/cucumber.jpg
TEPCO just retained Nathan Thurm.
Yes, THE Nathan Thurm
trav7777 are you are newly appointed saftey officer?
We all feel much better having you around.
Please feel free to make us have happy thoughts and rainbow dreams anytime.
listen, dickhead, do the fucking research, ok? It's as simple as that.
I LOVE how people on this site suggest that I be nicer and just as SOON as I do and present a fact-based statement and suggestion of further research, articulated in a calm and nonpatronizing manner, I am treated to shit like THIS post from you mocking me.
You retards simply CANNOT STAND any facts getting in the way of your hysteria, can you? You're not HERE for discussion, education, learning; you're here to get group affirmation and feel righteous.
I think it is called blowback Trav.
Appreciate your links in this post and will check them out.
Arka
You retards simply CANNOT STAND any facts getting in the way of your hysteria, can you? You're not HERE for discussion, education, learning; you're here to get group affirmation and feel righteous.
That's why you fit in so well here!
I'm here to get told to buy PMs
No, you don't deserve them. Buy GM stock instead.
Also, you don't call the above condescending? You can't make 300 insulting posts in one thread, then make a single one that doesn't contain an insult and expect the replies to that to be full of sweet butterflies.
This is why you need to leave. You have turned everyone against you. If you leave for a few months, maybe they will forget.
Cliff; don't be so transparent. You want me to leave because I have exposed you for what you are- a dilettante.
If you want to start rehabilitating your credibility, start agreeing with me. I know it's a bitter pill to swallow, but you need to take your medicine now.
You have turned everyone against you.
Not by a long shot.
And, judging by comments on this post, this place has become overun with girls. It don't matter who's right or wrong. C'mon, just love me.
If you are having brain surgery, or being shot to the moon, you'd better care who's right and who's wrong, or you won't be coming back. Sometimes things other than feelings do matter.
When do TEPCO come out & say that've now found MickeyMouseium?
They need to evacuate, immediately. The MSM has failed miserably. Bloomberg and Reuters cannot be called news agencies any longer. This is disgraceful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_poisoning#Exposure_levels
http://halfpasthuman.com/power.html
FYI, this coincides with OSE raising their future margin... so that no speculators can short it like they did back on March 14th...
Will Pacific-caught seafood have a longer shelf-life since it's been irradiated? And don't forget about the self-basting petro seafood from the Gulf of Mexico. Such healthy eating! Does this mean I don't have to take vitamins anymore?
Just like Ann Coulter says! But what would you expect them to say. They never tell the truth. They do not have honest DNA. It's been damaged by plutonium. www.TheAngryGrapes.com
TPTB are losing control. They can't even handle truth in a desperate situatution like this.
Goldman is telling their people in Tokyo to stay put, one article I read said. Can't believe that. I guess the whole EE goes down if they can't manipulate the Asian time zone
Release the plutonium eating bacteria!
It's way past time saying that we shouldn't be "girlie men" towards this disaster...
This is the greedy multi-billion Nuclear Industry's global fight for survival
with all its trickery , lies , fraud, disinformation,fabrication and cover-ups ,hoping to cause confusion and stupefy the wider public and nuclear opponents whose silence they could not buy.
Fact is, Reactor 2 uses MOX-Fuel, a mix of PLUTONIUM and Uranium.
Plutonium is lethal. Ingest a tiny spec of Plutonium and you die.
It is also a radioactive poison that accumulates in bone marrow.
Plutonium is the heaviest primordial element, by virtue of its most stable Isotopes of plutonium", whose half-life of about 80 million years is just long enough for the element to be found in trace quantities in nature.
Medical experimentation
Human radiation experiments during and after the end of World War II, scientists working on the Manhattan Project and other nuclear weapons research projects
conducted studies of the effects of plutonium on laboratory animals and human subjects.
Animal studies found that a few milligrams of plutonium per kilogram of tissue is a lethal dose.
In the case of human subjects, this involved injecting solutions containing (typically) five micrograms of plutonium into hospital patients thought to be either terminally ill, or to have a life expectancy of less than ten years either due to age or chronic disease condition.This was reduced to one micro-gram in July 1945 after animal studies found that the way plutonium distributed itself in bones was more dangerous than radium.
Eighteen human test subjects were injected with plutonium without informed consent.
The tests were used to create diagnostic tools to determine the uptake of plutonium in the body in order to develop safety standards for working with plutonium.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium
I believe it is Reactor 3 with the MOX, not reactor 2.
yes, you are correct it seems to be Reactor 3 ( sorry my mistake )
this is so unreal,it's hard to keep track of this lunacy...
Oh brother, the all italics guy is back - can't tell when he's quoting and when he's not.
Looks like shit, too ...
I agree. Italics suck. Be BOLD.
Its like uranium vs. Plutonium!
When does TEPCO try to put the lime in the coconut?
Lime will create a pillow cloud of monstorous proportions. Lime creates a chemical reaction (24-48 hours to hydrate). I saw a truck dump a load of lime accidently into a water puddle---within minutes it looked like a skyscraper was burning and 5 fire trucks were there. They buried the lime with dirt to stop the cloud. Next day they extrated the lime real slow to keep the chemical reaction to a minimum and the pillow cloud small.
TEPCO - The Exploding Plutonium Corporation says: There will be no live cam at the site, even though it's 2011, there will be no independent verification of our readings by any independent group on site that has no motivation to spin the facts. That would mean we would have to tell the truth and we simply cannot have that.
trouble is - when the shit hits the fan it will be radioactive
Hmmmm ... "Toxcicity of Plutonium and Bernard Cohen"
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=156042
So, best to eat lumps of it than small particles.......good to know
Metallic plutonium is also a fire hazard, especially if the material is finely divided. It reacts chemically with oxygen and water which may result in an accumulation of plutonium hydride, a pyrophoric substance; that is, a material that will ignite in air at room temperature. Plutonium expands considerably in size as it oxidizes and thus may break its container. The radioactivity of the burning material is an additional hazard. Magnesium oxide sand is the most effective material for extinguishing a plutonium fire. It cools the burning material, acting as a heat sink, and also blocks off oxygen. There was a major plutonium-initiated fire at the Rocky Flats Plant near Boulder, Colorado in 1969.[20] To avoid these problems, special precautions are necessary to store or handle plutonium in any form; generally a dry inert atmosphere is required.[21]
Getting so sick and tired of these fucking governments and their fucking bullshit cover-ups.
I think the Japanese need to ask themselves a very important question right now... WWSSD -- What would Steven Seagal do?
The government apologizes for the inconvenience.
What I want to see so bad will never happen - these TEPCO executives taken out to the plant and forced bare-faced on their belly in this shit.
Glowing Jihad terrorists seen collecting plutonium at Fukushima Plant. At least 120 of them were Walmart employees, soon to be deployed to Lybia. Oliver North new Director of operations of High secret "Plutonium Dawn". Apparently Libor swaps being traded to finance upcoming 3.12.12
Plutonium found in soil at Japan's plant: reports 28 March 2011 (MarketWatch) http://www.marketwatch.com/story/plutonium-found-in-soil-at-japans-plant...
Okay, all of this is VERY serious, and I am not in a joking mood. Something just dawned on me and I want to call the next bubble, right now.
Canned Tuna.
Seriously, forget about PM's, buy all the Starkist you can afford. Once the "puddles" overflow their >1 Sv radioactive water into the sea, (sometime this afternoon), then you won't be able to buy uncontaminated seafood for....oh, about 30 years.
Tuna is the new Gold. You heard it here first.
The guy, Kan 'Popeil', should do an infomercial.
Try new Colgate Fukushima, brightens teeth two shades whiter than the leading brand.
Tough stains? Try new NucleaTIDEs....now with 'harmless' plutonium.
Just set it, and forget it.
Who needs plutonium? You can kill two birds with one stone by adding uranium hexafluoride to the drinking water.
Why now,today, is the determination that measurable Pu-239 breached it's housing more cataclysmic than the determination LAST week that there was detectable neutron production measured 1.5km away? If U235/Pu239 fission results in production of fast neutrons, I thought we established they were screwed last week as those in chg can't get their shit together.
Not being deliberately obtuse, just trying to understand the science.
Pu240 does spontaneously fiss
This announcement should have been expected after the neutron beam story.
For their next act, they'll probably announce that they've detected daughter elements in the soil, too (no shit, sherlock).
In fact, that's the reaction for almost everything they say. No Shit, Sherlock!
TEPCO management needs to be removed from this situation. Their deep vested interest will destroy their decision making process. I'm sure that other agencies are overseeing TEPCO and just using TEPCO as a figurehead.
#3 blew sky high with all its stored fuel which uses Mox. How hard is it to see that the Mox will be strewn all over the area? More events which shake up the stuppor...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko
Coulld you be "tracked" or somehow identified online when you google for "LD50" as invited to by trav7777 ? bushboy
If plutonium is not a threat to human's,why do we go through all the trouble's and hazard's of conventional war's?
I'm no expert but it seems finding PU was a foregone conclusion:
1. Detecting argon meant fuel or spent fuel cladding had to have burnt. That implies either a melt down or damage from the explosions/fires. It also means fuel or spent fuel was now free to "roam about the cabin".
2. Dectecting cesium and iodine meant containment was leaking, either by cracks, a melted floor or a blown off top.
3. Detecting neutron beams meant criticality was still going on. Either the control rods never fully deployed, or the fuel or spent fuel was coalescing into critical masses on it's own. Either way it meant containment was broken and fuel and reaction products should have been expected anywhere in the vicinity.
Plutonium Kan Be Eaten Safely