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Tepper Unwinds The "Tepper Effect"... And Then Some

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It is somewhat ironic that the only thing that can undo the Tepper "Balls to the Wall" effect is.... Tepper.

Below is the +17 point boost from September 24, 2010, the time the Appaloosa manager made his first TV appearance prophesying the non-binary outcome of QE2.

And here is what happens when Tepper says the market will need to plunge (where have we heard that before) before QE3 is activated: -20 (so far)

 

 

 

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Fri, 06/10/2011 - 13:57 | 1358580 camaro68ss
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Bernake- "all acording to plan" deflation bithcez

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:16 | 1358685 TruthInSunshine
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2008, during the meltdown...and scene....

Paulson:  Look, Lloyd & Jamie, I'll scare the ever living shit out the morons in Congress, and get a blank check for you guys to load up on what will be a big pump cometh, but this is going to be a 2 to 3 year deal, so when you bank those easy profits, make sure you store the cheddar somewhere very safe. You will get a clear heads up.

Jamie D:  What about this toxic shit sitting on our balance sheets?

Paulson:  I told you we'd take care of that. That's free money without any strings coming your way. We're going to have to kill off Lehman to get Congress afraid enough to pass TARP, though. We will take care of it.

Geithner: Right, we just need to maintain the illusion that when the fiscal and monetary stimulus dries up, we can go get Congress to do it all over again, get Main Street to think the ground rules have been set, and that the next time, they'll be able to share in the easy money pump profits by buying in.

Paulson:  Yes, the economy will have deteriorated substantially by then, so Joe Q will be even more desperate to buy some into some momo.

Bernanke:  I think everyone knows what to do, now. This will be the best period to make an absolute killing on a completely taxpayer funded and risk free moonshot, but it will be transitory, so you've got 2...maybe 3 years max to bank.

Paulson:   But feel free to short the shit out of it, obviously, as it tilts of the side of the cliff. That'll be some easy money, too, but that won't be us, that will be gravity, capiche?

 

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:36 | 1358818 sweaty7
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just one minor correction on the Geithner dialogue:

ummmm.....ummmmm....i like to eat the red play-do.....ummmmm

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 13:54 | 1358583 Robslob
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Tepper = the "new" Jamie Dimon / Bill Gross / Lloyd Blankfuck?

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:00 | 1358591 HelluvaEngineer
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His pimp hand is strong

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:21 | 1358695 UGrev
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Dese aint da ho's you lookin' fo'...

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 20:02 | 1360116 Cheeky Bastard
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Yeah, *except* that these 4 have nothing, literally NOTHING in common (save Tepper and Blankefien who worked for GS, Tepper runnign HY desk, Blankfein commodities [i think)]. Except that, you're completey right.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 13:54 | 1358585 drswhaley
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His balls now back in his pants?

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 13:59 | 1358587 Hedgetard55
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Looks like balls have been nailed to the wall now.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:00 | 1358592 JW n FL
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Israel spying on US: A long history must see!
Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:30 | 1358754 john39
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but its ok, God said they could do whatever they wanted and we should just go along.  /sarc off.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 15:21 | 1359077 mkkby
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Junked for being off topic.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:04 | 1358600 TruthInSunshine
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Tepper claims that if the spooz drops 20% or so, then maybe QE3 will be back on the table as an option.

I'm just speaking to what he told one of the bobble head financial 'networks' this am, and I'm not claiming he's correct or incorrect.

I would say that the big unknown is whether a 20% correction is enough to get Bernankincide back in the game with the box he is feeling on all sides, whether 20% is the floor (or even close to it) given the margin out there and economic fundamentals once the fugly stick falls, and finally, whether QE3 -- in any size or batch -- would be impotent; impotent as an 85 year old man in a deli complaining loudly that his soup is too cold.

Hey, maybe the % of Americans with 401(k)s "borrowing" against them will rise from 30% to 50% or 75% soon.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:07 | 1358626 sabra1
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an impotent 85 year old man would do alright if he knew a lady with parkinsons!

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:08 | 1358648 Jeff Lebowski
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I would say that the big unknown is whether a 20% correction is enough to get Bernankincide back in the game.....

 

I would say that the big known is whether a 20% correction is enough to get baby boomers out of the game.

 

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:23 | 1358703 TruthInSunshine
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++

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:04 | 1358604 hambone
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Gee, wonder what Monday will look like???  QE3 inducing crash or Miracle Monday???  Both seem equally likely?

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:44 | 1358840 Arius
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monday is a century away...we are dealing in miliseconds now, where humans are not smart enough to trade and computers take over....

glad LiesMan came to the rescue. phew...that was a close call...

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:02 | 1358605 SDRII
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Maybe NATO US can double dip in the Qadaffi funds which are now apparently being tapped for war funding...

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/Anti+Gaddafi+countries+pledge+millions+rebels/4733394/story.html

 

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:05 | 1358630 mt paul
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burn the tape

at todays close ..?

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:05 | 1358631 HelluvaEngineer
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wtf just happened?  ES skyed 10 pts in 30 seconds

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:11 | 1358646 alien-IQ
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looks like a shorting opportunity handed on a silver platter...unless there is some news behind that move...which at this point I do not see.

but yeah..wow...where the fuck did that come from?

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:09 | 1358651 HelluvaEngineer
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Bank reserve ratios lowered...or something

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:13 | 1358674 alien-IQ
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that can't possibly be true....please tell me you're just fuckin with my head.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:20 | 1358687 HelluvaEngineer
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Think so.  Think the Fed just lowered them, or ignored some scheduled increase.  Listening to a web audio feed, but think they said 2.25%.  GS apparently went nuts.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:20 | 1358712 alien-IQ
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yeah I saw that GS move.

It seems somewhat insane if not borderline suicidal to lower bank reserve requirements at this point...

I don't see this pop holding for long.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 02:29 | 1360769 jeff montanye
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borderline suicidal about sums it up.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:22 | 1358724 Dr. No
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If it is true, then it is an opportunity to relaod shorts.  Since excess bank reserves are at record highs, a reduction in required reserves will have NO effect.

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/EXCRESNS

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 15:29 | 1359097 mkkby
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I'll second that.  And it probably means they've detected lots more small/medium sized banks that are about to deplete FDIC.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:23 | 1358710 SDRII
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Fed put out a press release via Liesman re SIFI buffers being 50bps ahead of expectation but below the "worst case." Apparently the WaPo puff piece didnt inspire confidence..little wonder with lines like "Geithner recounted for colleagues what his teenage daughter told him: If you were in Iraq, people would at least understand you were trying to help the country."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/geithner-finds-his-footing/2011/05/24/AGY0CSLH_print.html

 

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 02:35 | 1360771 jeff montanye
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goldfarb apparently finds the episcopalian tg appealing.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:09 | 1358654 Dr. No
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I was going to sell my ultrashorts before the we got too deep into the afternoon, to avoid the last minute bump from daytraders covering their shorts.  I saw that instantanous climb so I canceled my sell order.  This market is broken and there is more downside.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:11 | 1358642 PaperBear
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Gold/silver exchange rate still holding up well.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:11 | 1358644 RobotTrader
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Looks like huge bids coming into XLF.

I'm closing out all shorts right now.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:11 | 1358655 HelluvaEngineer
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you mean the shorts you never held?  go long(er), dear robo!

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:45 | 1358865 Arius
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ooopppsss....

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:21 | 1358692 JohnG
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Monster block trades, millions of shares per minute, he's right on this one.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 15:31 | 1359108 mkkby
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You don't have any shorts or longs either.  You just have charts of old news.  Oldest trick in the book and not foolin anyone with a 25 IQ.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:14 | 1358657 Robslob
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Shorts on what...placed when?

Poor Robo...can't even keep up with its own lies anymore...

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:23 | 1358730 Cognitive Dissonance
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No one can top the Tepper.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:28 | 1358736 Subprime JD
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Spikes such as the one we just saw are to be expected given that SPX was off over 7% off its recent highs. I was driving before the spike but if I got in before I would have bought some long 2X at the lows. Markets dont go down in a straight line just watch any bear market the relief rallys are constant and dangerous to shorts. For example look how many times the SPX spiked as it came down from the all time high in Sept of 2007. There were numerous bear market rallys. Unless we get some terrible jobs data over the coming months dont expect too severe of a down draft.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:38 | 1358812 gatorontheloose
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TSX dropped as money went back to us exchanges

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:28 | 1358742 TruthInSunshine
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RoboMomo gonna get raped!

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