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Terrorist Bomb Attack in Oslo, Norway ... Who Dunnit?
As everyone knows by now, there has been a horrific bomb attack in
the center of Oslo, Norway and a shooting spree in a Norwegian summer
camp.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims.
Norway is an odd choice as a Muslim terror target:
- Norway has excluded Isareli investments. As Haaertz reported last year:
Norway’s
450 billion euro oil-riches fund has excluded two Israeli firms
involved in developing settlements ... on ethical grounds, Norway’s
finance ministry said on Monday.
- Indeed, Senator Lieberman has accused Norway of promoting anti-semitism
- Norway has also announced its plan to withdraw from the Libyan war
- The summer camp where the shootings took place had just concluded a pro-Palestinian rally the day before
This is hardly the profile of a normal Muslim terrorist target. Therefore, many are alleging that it is another false flag terror attack.
In addition, as Business Insider notes:
The other big possibility, touted by some on Twitter, is that the attack could have come from the Norwegian right. The Norwegian far right were once a feared proposition but have been relatively mellow in recent years due to the success of populist success of the Progress Party.
BBC notes:
Meanwhile a gunman dressed as a policeman started shooting at a Labour youth camp on the island of Utoeya.
Unconfirmed reports say several people have been killed. The gunman has been arrested.
The Telegraph reports:
Hours
later there was an summer camp youth conference of the ruling Labour
Party, which is being attended by current Prime Minister Jens
Stoltenberg. The conference is taking place on the island of Utøya.
The man apparently infiltrated the conference on the pretence that he
had been sent by the police as a security measure in the wake of the
Oslo explosions. As such, it is likely he was ethnically Norwegian. This could indicate the involvement of a far-right group rather than an Islamist group ...
MSNBC notes:
Police say the gunman is a 32-year-old Norwegian.
Witnesses
described the suspect as "blond" and "Nordic-looking." Late Friday,
Knut Storberegt, Norway's royal minister of justice and the police,
confirmed that he is a Norwegian; the BBC,
citing police, said he was from Utoya. Police said he is also believed
to have been involved in the bombing that killed seven people earlier
in the day in Oslo, about 25 miles away.
Magnus
Ranstorp, a specialist in militant Islamic movements and research
director at the Center for Asymmetric Threat Studies at the Swedish
National Defense College, cautioned that widespread assumptions that
the attacks were connected to international terrorism could be wrong.
The description of the suspect and his possible involvement in bombing national government offices "point to an internal rather than external extremist," Ranstorp told Nettavisen.
AP has just confirmed that a domestic madman - rather than a Muslim terrorist - likely carried out the attack:
A police official said the 32-year-old ethnic Norwegian suspect arrested at the camp on Utoya island appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that "it seems like that this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all." The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway's police.
"It seems it's not Islamic-terror related," the official said. "This seems like a madman's work." The official said the attack "is probably more Norway's Oklahoma City than it is Norway's World Trade Center."
According to a Norwegian-language version of Associated Press, the terrorist who bombed downtown Oslo and shot numerous children at summer camp was an Anti-Islam nationalist:
Arrested: Anders Behring Breivik (32).
Photo: PRIVATE
In
online debates marks Anders Behring Breivik as well read, and one with
strong opinions about Norwegian politics. He promotes a very
conservative opinions, which he also called nationalist. He expresses
himself strongly opposed to multiculturalism - that cultural differences
can live together in a community.Breivik has had many posts on the site Document.no, an Islam-critical site that publishes news and commentary.
In
one of the posts he states that politics today no longer revolves
around socialism against capitalism, but that the fight is between
nationalism and internationalism. He expressed clear support for the
nationalist mindset.Anders Breivik Behring has also commented on
the Swedish news articles, where he makes it clear that he believes the
media have failed by not being "NOK" Islam-critical.
The suspect is allegedly described as a Conservative Christian on his Facebook page.
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Swastika over Norway, we are back to Narvik.
Read my novel : about the last pagan Viking who defied all crazy fundamentalists during the Crusades; his family brought back the Chardonnay vine to France. Clash of civilizations my ass! This is regression en masse!
http://www2.xlibris.com/books/webimages/wd/uk/301941/
At least its based on a true historical character and is a novel.
Looks horny.
is your target audience bored middle aged housewifes?
only jokin' with ya...
oh so he needed 6 tons of fertilizer? give me a break already.....ha ha ha ha
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/7666119.html
man bought 6 tons of fertilizer.........here we go again. sounds like ok city for sure......same mo......total setup........
This young man was a free entrepreneur who started a farm back in 2009. Non organic farm so he had plenty of access to fertilizers.
While resources are allocated to monitor specific populations on ground they would be more dangerous than others, it frees way to others to run their scheme quietly.
That is the way it is.
The recent bombing in Norway may demonstrate the kind of “blowback” the advocates of endless war prefer to ignore. Typically, blowback is popularized as coming from the “militants” of invaded countries and their global “sympathizers”.
But “blowback” also results from the constant fear mongering, the endless vilification of the “enemy”, the glorification of militarism and military “solutions”, and the paranoia generated by omnipresent policing and domestic spying. Ultranationalists, xenophobic racists, and violence junkies are the offspring of war.
Norway, despite the media portrayals as a “peaceful nation”. is far from peaceful, and hardly resistant to the xenophobia generated by the unending militarism of the endless so-called “war on terror”.
Thorbjorn Jagland, former prime minister of Norway, supporter of military intervention, pro-NATO, was head of the Nobel prize committee when it awarded the “peace” prize to Obama.
Among his political foes in Norway, Jagland is called “our own George Bush Jr.”
“That vanguard role continues today, with Norwegian troops on the ground in Afghanistan, its naval vessels curbing piracy off Somalia, Pentagon anti-ballistic missile systems and anti-satellite technology waging the struggle for outer space, and the world’s most advanced anti-submarine technology. Norway has the highest per-capita troop deployment among NATO’s 28-member states.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21512
This guy is not a nationalist. The only nation he envisions is the European nation which he keeps dealing as a reality in his manifesto, titled 'a European declaration of Independence'
In this US driven world, peace is when a country does not lose many people in the wars this country wage around the world.
http://ufohunterorguk.com/2011/07/23/oslo-mossad-operation-a-deliberate-...
norway incident, was israeli mossad operation.
I take issue with your labeling, he should be categorized as a "Christian terrorist" or "Christian extreme terrorist"-
Interesting to see the reaction when the tables are turned. I understand that all Muslims are not terrorists, but no matter what reason they are fighting for, they are "Muslim terrorists". Easier to hate and want to kill them. When a "supposed" Christian is involved, everything is done to parse around the fact that they are a Christian terrorist.
Reply to AlienIQ above: A couple of observations re your post. 1. First terrorist massacre in modern ME was in Hebron in 1929. Musselmen killed scores of Jewish civilians. 2. Israeli "terrorism" was aimed at MILITARY targets, not school children, hospitals and other civilian targets. 3. Israelis (the Irgun) called and warned the hotel which the hotel staff decided to ignore, but did not call directly to the British authorities. From the fact that a bomb search had already been carried out, it appears that a hoax call or tip-off had been received at the hotel earlier that day. Subsequent telephone calls from a concerned Palestine Post staff member and the police caused increasing alarm and the hotel manager was notified. In the closing minutes before the explosion, he called an unknown British officer, but, for whatever reason, no evacuation was ordered. 4. There is a BIG difference between using "terror" against military vs civilian targets. While most don't condone either, the Musselmen are "experts" at targeting civilians in terror attacks, the Israelis were experts at targeting the British military. 4. The Musselmen are using terror against civilians to force governments around the world to capitulate to their barbaric shariah laws and to come under the ummah of world imperialist Islam. I think we need to begin to recognize that Islam equals intolerance of just about everything Western civilizations stands for. If you are for free speech and religious expression and are against pedophelia, cliterectomies, honor killings, sanctioned rape, child slavery, human shields, murdering of civilians in "terror" attacks, why not wake up and smell the hummis. We are in deep shit.
Luv the weekend, when tel aviv is forced to bring out the backbenchers...how sweet it is! ...
Not only are we "gold bugs" for free speech n religious expression dude, we are inclined to take serious difference to all of the quoted
pedophelia, cliterectomies, honor killings, sanctioned rape, child slavery, human shields, murdering of civilians in "terror" attacks
even when perpetrated by New Jersey rabbis, transplanted Russian gangsters who just happened to profess to Hebraic values or IDF hooligans who are trained to consider murder of Palestinians a stairway to heaven. : vice and corruption are the trademarks of all of the above mentioned, you don't have to be a friend of Islam to point out the extreme hypocrisy of your attempt to call kettle black - figure that metaphor out and get back to us on your own time...methinks your contract will be terminated by Monday...thanks for the goal in your own net!
Many common hobbies with US citizens. Muslims are not targeted because of they are odd balls but because they are rivals in hobbies enjoyed by US citizens.
Gang mindset.
Possibilities in 'false flag domestic terrorism' -
So-called 'homegrown' mass-murders and terroristic attacks, lead common people to live in more fear, and to depend more on the security state instead of seeking alternatives. These murders and their publicity, even help squash dissent and the ability to oppose the government.
Such 'homegrown terrorism' thus serves objectives of certain Powers That Be, who wish particularly to destroy the kind of more peaceful and more democratic and more secure lives that we have long enjoyed in Western Europe, with our greater freedom to hit the streets, call general strikes and shut down and cashier governments.
Recall Operation Gladio in Italy, the US and Nato agents killing people while pretending to be local Communists, issuing totally bogus 'false flag' - waving statements, in order to move Italy toward the right wing and to try to diminish leftist popularity. Only years later did it fully emerge the murderers were not Communists at all.
After the Oklahoma City bombing in the 1990s in the US, the US dissident 'militia' movement was decimated and de-moralised by being associated with the tragedy rather than with the militia concept in the US Constitution of 1789. Many today doubt it was Timothy McVeigh who did the bombing, including writer Gore Vidal who extensively communicated with him.
After mass shootings took place in Britain in the 1990s, the UK began a mass confiscation of all privately owned handguns, preparing a way both for increased crime against citizens in England, and for the intrusive surveillance and police-security state that Britain is now today, with the traditional British bobby now something 'more like Robocop', as people describe him. (Note to Americans: We still have lots of privately-held guns on the Continent, it is not like Britain yet.)
In America, the traditional 'lone crazy gunman' or 'gunwoman', are said to often have connections to psychiatrists and drugs, which manipulate their minds, administered by psychiatrists secretly connected to the security state apparatus.
Once an appropriate 'loner' without sufficient family support, is identified by the CIA-type psychiatrists and put into the drugs and mind control programme, he can then be manipulated to become a mass murderer etc. once the signals are given to him that the 'time is right', along with a mental erasure of how he was handled and manipulated.
Adolf Hitler was put into care under a 'professional psychologist' after his being disabled in a poison gas attack in World War I ... and he emerged a 'man with a mission'.
Also interesting to consider, are the discussions of Mark Ames about 'going postal' on the exiledonline.com website, where he describes the modern homegrown mass murderer, as the reaction of modern humans to a sense of feeling indeed enslaved and powerless in our modern societies.
Mark Ames says that the closest analogy to the mass murders of modern times, whether by gun or by knife (when guns are not available, as happens in China and some parts of the West now), with their targeting of so many innocents, are some of the historically recorded eruptions of actual slaves in the past, going on mindless murdering rampages and killing their innocent fellow slaves, out of blind rage combined with a similar sense of powerlessness.
Some of the Powers That Be want to create greater dependence on the modern, militarised Security State, as you can see being the hidden theme of many of these American-based police and cop and security shows, now turning European television into a half-wasteland as well. And such terrifying tragic murders serve the Powers That Be in that objective.
Sorry, I don't buy your thesis. Could it not be that mass murderers have a history of psychiatric care, because they are nuts?
Burning your hand on the stove does not make the stove heat up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XxbvFu_eR8&feature=related
Balkan like civil war awaits europe within 20 years.
I hope we support the Serbs this time.
not really buying this whole story. hates muslims yet doesnt kill any. a conservative Christian with so far no proof but heresay. looks just like what DHS says are the new terrorists, once again with no proof. this kind of reeks like the DSK stuff, everybody jumping to conclusions when things dont seem to make any sense.
This will put a stop to the Australian behavior of locking down the borders and protecting the Citizens first!
Open Borders are needed, Norway was well on its way with popular backing to keep the Jew Lobbyists and Muslims out!
and then! a white guy fucked it all up! what was already happening.. this guy was for! so he blew shit up and shot his own cause in the foot! all by himself for his Country!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIesXORjBps
http://wejew.com/media/6050/Abba_in_Latma_Studio/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqlLTsL5Ynk
Funny how all the Popular support for the cause against the Israeli Lobby Whore Owners and Muslims is now dead in the water. All for open borders and Global Unity!
Long Live the United Nations! All Praise be to the Lobby Whore Owners Israel!
Who Dunnit?
Government. As usual.
This guy's a patsy. Fallguy. As usual.
"It seems it's not Islamic-terror related," the official said. "This seems like a madman's work."
Note the psycholinguistics, not islamic related therefore work of a madman, implying if islamic related then not the work of a madman.
This is how far it permeates into the people from their elite and why people like this guy cannot take it any longer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1pMM51whL8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3rEZjuswho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB6cFS6OjbQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p__qffobdE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S0j8WZvYIs&playnext=1&list=PL59FCBEBE5968CD35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3rEZjuswho
I am not Christian but, just curious, what in your analysis of this guy's actions is consistent with the teachings of Jesus Christ? Would he no be in fact acting outside the teaching of his faith? And, if you stop to think about it, would not his actions be consistent with the teachings of Mohammed and consistent in the teachings of his faith, if he were Muslim?
Remember Bernard de Clairvaux, he defined the statutes of the Templars and decreed homicide was Malicide, in other words justified, to clean out the Holy Land of its heathen vermin. To make it really holy. That is the origin of "ethnic cleansing" in christian civilization. So "Gods wills it" put the christians at par with the worst jihadists of that age, who never killed old men and women in their synagogs and mosques, as the first crusade did; to the last man up to their knees in blood. I think this guy in Norway considers himself a Knights Templar and Norway his Holy home land now polluted by the infidel!
How are they not with Christian philosophy? Jesus Christ said he was not there to repell the first testament but to confirm it. So no exit room by claiming that first testament is not Jesus' teachings.
Secondly, it is also known that Jesus Christ participated in mass slaughters himself, like that time, when he imbued Peter with himself (the Holy Spirit) to go and raid a camp of unbelievers so that Peter could kill them using the Word.
The question is how are not they consistent with Christian teachings? Please provide. And deflecting on another abrahamic religion is useless. The religion in question is Christianity, not Islam. That the other abrahamic religions are of the same mould is irrelevant to the matter.
Absolutely nothing Christian about bombings and shooting kids (or anyone else), regardless of any words he might use to describe himself. He's no more Christian than the typical Episcopalian bishop (which is to say, not at all).
Seems like a fair piece of analysis. But I will wait to see what Fox News has to say. Lol
Funny that a lot of people are immediately throwing the evil Jews or Muslims out as the bad guy.
Guess what. Evil Christians are probably to blame for this one. No one religion has a corner on idiots. But as a whole, they pretty well hold the entire supply of them.
a double attack is FAR too organized for one man. there are multiple people involved in this for sure
150 human animal hybrids grown in UK labs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017818/Embryos-involving-genes-...
georgie, Business Insider is a left wing raggregator yet you quote it as if it is some sort of original news source - its ownership is same as HuffPo prior to the Yahoo deal
Left wing? Ha ha ha ha!
BI is totally pro Wall Street and pretty pro-war. I like the site, but left wing it aint.
http://www.businessinsider.com/politics
just a coincidence that owners of BI also owned HuffPo and Henry is frequently featured over at HuffPo
Alien,
So you too join GW in his Jew hating and bashing. Yes, you caught me. I am an Israeli agent paid to go to websites like zerohedge and try to convince neo nazis such as yourself that the Israelis really don't control the world. If Tyler does not ban GW from this website I think it is time for the world to be alerted to exactly what kind of propaganda is being spread here.
hmm, maybe he's right;
Ok...world! Alert! typical hambone anti-free speak thug spreading vicious anti Arab(them Arabs is the only "Semites" in the muddled east!) aspersions here! Detain and body search!
blow me.
The fact is Israel is making this world a much more dangerous place and blowback is a bitch.
GW,
So now you are not only a 9/11 denier but you make the jump to anti semite as well. Coward - why don't you tell us your real name.
bubba123
what a good name for a simpleton bible thumping yank...
never probably heard of norway.
dumbasses like you give the usa a bad name.
the norwegians have the same issues as all the west.... controlling creeping socialism welcoming in rapist islamics who have been harassing the women of oslo in their usual way.
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2804586-Religion-of-p...
the shooting were at a left wing youth conference so its just like another 2 a penny mall rampage by a nut frustrated at the government.
I didn't think most megaphone employees worked on Friday nights. What are you doing here? And do you get paid extra to incorporate the word "anti-semite" into your senseless ramblings?
You do know what "megaphone" is don't you? Of course you do...
Israel's newest PR weapon: The Internet Megaphone
Foreign Ministry is urging supporters of Israel to become cyberspace soldiers in the PR battle.
http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=42902
that's how all you Israeli firsters are alerted to anything that does not follow your script of how the world is supposed to see you.
excellent , there alien...........yep, that is all correct. this guy is just trolling.......
FDR said something like ... We have nothing to fear but fear of ourselves....anyway did we back down when the Germans bombed Pear Harbor?........
GW-another quick reaction from your "perspective" without (even) any a) speculative reporting, nor b) facts in general evidence. Generating (so far) noise in the commentary.
This must be your intent, to generate noise on incomplete/unconfirmed/anecdotal commentary vs. factually based evaluation.
And, on the Aristotle front, your "appeal to authority" arguments are full of belly-laughs. Why? Because of your sensless selection of your "authorities". Why, your selection is not "diverse" at all.
I'd like to know what the outcomes are from your sensationalist posts have been? Like the nuclear plants (the Fort, Cooper) with your sensationalist scary prognosticationalist evaluation of a priori scary warnings vs. the actuality.
I continue to challenge you to root cause. Really, truly, we can walk through the "five-whys" and get closer to the root cause(s).
Then we could evaluate.
- Ned
foto of "blond" and "Nordic-looking" ...whatever the media sayz;
http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/6970/Aanslagen-Noorwegen/article/detail/281466...
in July 2002, the Norwegian Labor Party Youth Movement - the same organization attacked at this summer camp -demanded that Israel's leaders be put on trial for war crimes
here is an update from daily mail....some good pics of what happened......
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017709/Pictured-The-blond-Norwegian-32-arrested-holiday-island-massacre-linked-Oslo-car-bomb-blasts.html
Is that a Mason's apron he's wearing?
Holy shit, the Illuminati attacks!
another cia / inside job....
Still, it is all about Islam. And this guy is a Norwegian Freedom Fighter taking on the Islamic takeover of his country, that no one else will do anything about. So who is right? And who to support?
Islam took over Norway? I thought they were Lutheran, or something.
Apparently the sandbacks have been stealing all the freedom.