Theatrical Vote To Raise Debt Ceiling By $2.4 Trillion Begins; Does Not Pass

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Tue, 05/31/2011 - 19:04 | 1326921 jal
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It's the best show in town.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:54 | 1327454 DaveyJones
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If you like really dark comedies

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 00:36 | 1327644 AR15AU
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How is this bad? This is a necessary step to change the status quo.  Lets wait and see who switches from "No" to "Yes" and then by all means... call them out...

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 02:27 | 1327714 Michael
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Sons of bitches. I need those congress critters to raise the debt ceiling to as high as possible. I want the complete and total economic collapse of the USA to be absolutely spectacular. I want it to be an epic failure of biblical proportions.

It's not like anyone is assuming the American people can ever possibly pay for the national debt at this point. It's a mathematical certainty the US will have a complete and total economic collapse, so why not make the failure as epic as possible?

The dot-com and the housing busts weren't shit, I need an epic catastrophic financial failure for my fix. Please.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 04:05 | 1327768 Janestool
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While your at it....put on a coat and run the air conditioner in the winter...donate money from your excess fund to Exxon and the other oil majors...and promote the use of isotope soap so we can get on with it....oh, play mail box baseball as often as you can...but instead of targeting mail boxes--target solar panels....

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 04:24 | 1327795 Michael
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THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!

WHY IS THIS NOT THE #1 BUMPER STICKER IN AMERICA?

WHY IS THIS NOT ZERO HEDGE'S MOTTO?

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 09:49 | 1328231 Imminent Crucible
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Sorry, Michael. The Fed is not the root of all evil. That honor belongs to the corrupt desire of the human heart to live at someone else's expense, to have others sweat and struggle so that you can live in comfort off their toils--see Blankfein, Lloyd.

Without this evil inclination, the Fed could accomplish none of its thefts. Congress would be unrecognizable. We would be living within our means and militaries would be small and idle, since war is primarily about stealing the wealth of other nations.

The actual practical result of having to switch from living high on Fed credit to living low on what you actually produce will be jarring enough that you will not be celebrating the event. Public roads with crater-size potholes, empty store shelves, stunningly high prices and social chaos everywhere you look. Yeah, quite a party.

I've been to Haiti twice, and it's not a vacation on Ka'anapali.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 05:24 | 1327826 New World Chaos
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The longer they keep reality bottled up, the more spectacular the collapse when reality inevitably explodes into the wild.  The more spectacular the collapse, the more burning federal institutions, heads on sticks, and horror stories for the grandkids.  Ultimately, the more spectacular the collapse, the more freedom for the grandkids.  I'm with you.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 10:35 | 1328476 DaveyJones
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you guessed it, I'm skipping to the last act. The Cliff Note version

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 23:05 | 1327489 camoes
Wed, 06/01/2011 - 00:33 | 1327640 TwoShortPlanks
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LAMO!!!!!!

TRy this one..."None shall pass!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 19:04 | 1326923 Yen Cross
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Finnaly! Mis spel intended!

    It will pass the house. Worthless people will  run away from the press!

   DO NOT RAISE the debt ceiling!!!

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 19:05 | 1326926 Island_Dweller
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And the lone Republican is?

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 19:27 | 1326994 mynhair
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I_D, he got slapped into going NV.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 19:06 | 1326930 A_MacLaren
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Crashed and burned like an asteroid entering the atmosphere

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 19:10 | 1326935 LRC Fan
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I added some more USO puts today.  Any chance the market could drop similarly to the 2008 "omg TARP might not pass" fall?  Or is all this just going to push stocks ever higher and oil/silver/gold to the moon? 

I think we're due for a margin increase on crude.  Come on CME, get on it so I can cash in!  Volatility is too high!!

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 19:50 | 1327044 Id fight Gandhi
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Nope everything is bullish.

When the fed puts the teats away next month maybe...

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 19:07 | 1326937 nah
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we should really liquidate and restructure the banks then try to run the nation regardless of tax crybaby camp... maybe embezlement shouldnt be easy

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 19:11 | 1326939 bob_dabolina
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Voting needs to be changed. 

-If you can stay on your parents healthcare plan 'till 26; 26 should be the legal age to vote. 

-If you don't have at least a minimum wage job....you don't get to vote yourself gifts from the public treasury. 

This is how it should be. 

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 19:14 | 1326951 LRC Fan
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This post is an epic, epic fail. 

I'm not against voting in theory, as long as I'm able to opt out and not suffer the consequences of other people's decisions.  So go ahead and vote for Bush or Obama but don't make me use your fiat money or don't force me to use your schools/roads/police etc etc.  But that would lead to actually paying for what you use, or having others help you out via charity, which we cannot have here in America. 

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 19:52 | 1327034 bob_dabolina
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I'm not sure what angle you're coming from. 

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 21:35 | 1327274 LasVegasDave
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Sounds like another bitter objectivist.

love the ideas.  hate the followers.

 

 

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 23:12 | 1327502 Hephasteus
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Yes bitter people shouldn't be allowed to complain about what works for other people. They should just be legally allowed to slaughter the parents that mistakenly bore them and shoot the cops who come to punish them for not fitting in.

Oh but they shouldn't be allowed to live outside the system. Cause they have to fit in but any attempt to fit in results in cruelty.

You are the weakest mindfuck.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:26 | 1327396 ColonelCooper
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Your post and Bob's are an apples to grapefruit comparison.  One can argue about the nature of a society, but you are asking to opt out of society completely.  I challenge you to try. It is virtually impossible today.  Either you are a big talker and have little experience, or you are genuine, and unfortunate: born a couple of hundred years too late.

I am all for your ideal.  We just have a couple billion too many people on the face of the Earth to pull it off.  You answer that problem, and I'll help you raise walls on your cabin.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 21:02 | 1327212 blunderdog
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That's silly.  The voters don't have anything to do with the crimes of our government.  The country's run by a few thousand rich folks.

You could give the vote to household pets and not a damn thing would change.  That's the beauty of every decision being phrased/made/executed by fewer than 1000 corrupt "representatives."

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 21:37 | 1327255 bob_dabolina
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Citizens whom don't pay taxes are pets. 

That's why they shouldn't have a vote.

If you don't pay taxes....you should NOT have a right to vote.

If you are collecting welfare with NO job...you should NOT have the right to vote.

What gives you the right to vote entitlements with other peoples money if you have no money to put up yourself? 

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 21:41 | 1327271 downwiththebanks
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Everyone pays sales tax, Banker-Gangster.

If you rob people blind with lies and brigandage, do you deserve a right to vote?

What about the Capitalist ratfuckers responsible for the Depression?  Should they be allowed to vote?

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 21:49 | 1327297 bob_dabolina
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If you don't pay income tax, you should not be eligible to vote. 

Period.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 21:50 | 1327301 downwiththebanks
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If you don't pay turnover tax on derivatives, you should be shot.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 21:50 | 1327302 Dr. No
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Since I dont vote, can I not pay taxes?

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 21:53 | 1327308 bob_dabolina
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If you pay income tax, and don't vote, I'll tell you what you can do....

Shut the fuck up.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 21:56 | 1327317 Dr. No
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Your goal should be the elimination of taxes, not controlling votes for people who pay.  Treat the disease not the symptom.  Another thing, I believe in free speech (as well as other rights) regardless of how much i pay in taxes.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:03 | 1327327 bob_dabolina
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I'm not even going to entertain this comment.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:01 | 1327330 Dr. No
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Thats because you do not challenge yourself with thought.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:03 | 1327337 bob_dabolina
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I don't want to insult you. Don't put me in that position.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:05 | 1327339 Dr. No
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This country existed longer without income tax than with it.  So your argument about not having the ability to vote if you do not pay income tax does not make sense.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:10 | 1327352 bob_dabolina
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During that time period how much welfare did we have? 

How many wars were we involved in? 

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:15 | 1327368 Dr. No
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Once again, the symptoms of the desease.  Cut the tax rather than worry about who votes.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:30 | 1327391 bob_dabolina
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Are you a fucking idiot? 

If you have more people leaching from the system than contributing to it, it's going to fail. 

That's precisely what we have RIGHT NOW. 

Why should anyone work if the government promises us all food/clothing/shelter? 

Where is the need to do it yourself? When everyone gets on that paige, than who builds the shelter, produces the food, and manufactures the clothes?

I'll give you the last word. I'm done with this argument. 

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:32 | 1327402 ColonelCooper
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Bob, you're both right.  The difference is that he's amputating what you're cauterizing. 

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:47 | 1327442 bob_dabolina
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I hear ya. But....

If you can vote yourself gifts from the public treasury in perpetuity than there is no incentive not to. If you pay taxes than you are obviously more attune to making prudent descions. 

I just don't see how a vote paying $100,000 a year in taxes is equivalent to a vote collecting welfare receiving an equal vote is just or equal in descsion making.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 23:01 | 1327470 Dr. No
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I actually believe voting should be based upon iq. Neither of will have our way.

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 08:06 | 1327937 BillyBoy22
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This argument implies that voting matters.  It doesnt

Wed, 06/01/2011 - 10:19 | 1328368 cranky-old-geezer
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Nobody fucking cares what you think moron.

And dammit I hate comments crowding up against the right margin like this.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:47 | 1327437 GreenSideUp
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Your goal should be the elimination of taxes

 

Word!

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 21:36 | 1327276 blunderdog
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You really don't get it.  The people you love to hate DON'T vote themselves entitlements.  That's not how our government works.  The folks you want to prevent from voting don't vote in the first place, and if they did, most of them would be dumb enough to vote for the same guy you prefer.

http://www.rall.com/rallblog/comics/2010-10-11.jpg

Wake up.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 21:48 | 1327296 bob_dabolina
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If you don't pay income tax you shouldn't have a vote. 

Period. 

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:09 | 1327347 knowless
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no man who contributes to society should pay an income tax.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:11 | 1327357 blunderdog
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Oookay.  You're a moron.

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 22:32 | 1327406 bob_dabolina
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What's the dollar doing? 

How does the world look at us? 

....and you're calling me a moron? 

Ok....let's continue on your path. It appears to be the path towards prosperity. With 1 in 6 on food stamps your plan is working pretty well.

 

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