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Thermal Images From Fukushima Indicate Blistering 128 Degrees Celsius Zone In Reactor #3

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Thermal images from Fukushima have just been released. One is based on data from Die Welt, the other one comes straight from NHK.

First, from NHK:

Next, a picture from Die Welt, emphasizing Reactor 3 and confirming that previous lies that all temperatures at Reactors 1 through 4, were under 100 degrees Celsius, were nothing but. Note the area indicating 128 oC Celsius. We would assume that is the reactor core area (which refutes the lie). If, instead, that is the spent fuel rod area, then we have some very big problems, even if TEPCO is telling the truth for once.


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Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:52 | 1082564 Infinite QE
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Looks like JPM's silver short storage area!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:32 | 1083102 Ahmeexnal
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Ben Fulford | Tsunami attack against Japan. This attack used nuclear weapons drilled into the seabed by submarines and not HAARP according to senior Pentagon Sources

US troops and occupation forces flee Japan, their lackeys flee Tokyo
Mar 21, 2011
by Ben Fulford
The United States occupation forces in Japan are staging a major strategic defeat because they know the Japanese defense establishment knows it was elements of the US military that set off the March 11, (311) tsunami attack against Japan. This attack used nuclear weapons drilled into the seabed by submarines and not HAARP according to senior Pentagon Sources. In addition, four months ago they overruled Japanese authorities and placed deadly plutonium into the number 3 reactor at Fukushima, according to the governor of Fukushima prefecture. This was to provide a nuclear cover story for the seabed atomic attack, pentagon sources say. Needless to say, the ring-leaders of this attack are now in hiding and know they will be found.

The attack on Japan was orchestrated by the Bush/Clinton/Rockefeller cabal in an attempt to prevent the upcoming bankruptcy of their criminal corporate government in Washington D.C. That is why they staged the farcical show of “President” Obama of the bankrupt United States signing an “aid” bill for Japan, as if they could terrorize the rest of the world into giving them more money. That is also why they are now desperately trying to use their extortionist nation-wrecking IMF as the new vehicle for a “global currency.”

In addition, Chinese and Russian intelligence now report that Germany’s Angela Merkel is the daughter of Adolf Hitler thanks to the use of frozen sperm and the expertise of a Nazi doctor captured by the Soviets. That means she is almost certainly one of the ringleaders of the Nazi faction still hoping for a fascist world totalitarian government.

The Pentagon, for its part, is running out of oil thanks to a spreading global oil boycott targeting the criminal US corporate government. Bombing Libya will not help their case, just as attacking Japan did not help.

They are whistling in the wind because the whole world despises them and will no longer do business with them, even if this means facing down their threats of additional violence.

Their only hope is to turn over their command and control to General Colin Powell and other decent human beings still to be found within that large, bureaucratic and potentially good organization.

Meanwhile, multiple sources report that cabalist bankers, US military forces, corporate propaganda experts and other occupation forces have left Japan or have withdrawn to Okinawa. Japanese workers at US bases say troops have been withdrawn from all bases on the Japanese mainland, although this is not yet fully confirmed. However, we can confirm that agents of the criminal part of the Federal Reserve board have now left Japan. We would like to bid an especially good riddance to the rapacious bankers who have been stealing Japanese savings and using them to buy up chunks of Japan’s industry.

We can also now say that arch-traitor Heizo Takenaka, the former Finance Minister of Japan, will be facing multiple criminal charges for his crimes against the Japanese people during his time in power with the murderer Junichiro Koizumi.

One example of his criminality that we can prove in great detail in a court of law is his theft of the company Mizawa home. Takenaka illegally and unethically forced financially sound Mizawa Home into a government “financial restructuring agency,” pumped at least $200 million of Japanese taxpayer money into it and then handed it over to his brother who is now chairman of Misawa home. Our sources for this include Chiyoji Misawa, the founder of Misawa Home.

There will also be insider trading investigations into the sudden rise of the stock price of Higashi Nihon House in the month prior to the earthquake. It would only make sense for the share price of that company to rise as it did in the month prior to the tsunami if someone had insider knowledge that a bunch of housing was about to be destroyed. Japan has 3 million empty homes and a shrinking population.

Investigations will also reveal if Takenaka’s take-over of Misawa home was a sign this attack was planned long in advance.

We have also been informed by an astute reader that a Canadian company sent large shipments of Potassium Iodide to South Korea (a treatment for radioactive poisoning) one month before the nuclear “accidents,” in the Fukushima earthquake zone.

A representative of the Satanists was also told by a White Dragon Society representative that their idea that prophecy of the future was written in the stars and could not be changed was balderdash. “We will write our own stars,” he was told.

Finally, this writer went to the volcanic Island of Oshima to watch the supermoon on March 19th. The moon appeared a bright gold in color and had the exact same trajectory over the sky as did the sun on the following day. There were plenty of presumably US military observation planes in the sky over Oshima on that night but they left disappointed. Anything unusual that took place, took place when they were not watching.

This writer would like to add that even if he was given a technology capable of destroying the planet, he would never use it. Using it to save the planet is a different question but, humans already know how to do that.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:43 | 1083142 ebworthen
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Wait...I need to break out the Heavy Duty Aluminum Foil and fold me a new hat for this one.


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:51 | 1083175 taraxias
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I stopped at Merkel is Hitler's daughter.

I need to finish my new all-lead aluminum foil clad hat before I read the rest.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:29 | 1083280 What does it al...
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I am pretty sure that is the #4 reactor, instead of the #3.  But regardless, Japanese govt have a bad record of telling the truth.

Also, saw this news on Asahi TV this morning... but no mention in the US media until much later...


U.S. carrier leaves Japanese port to dodge radiation

Do as what US Military doesnot as what US State Department says

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:41 | 1083345 dick cheneys ghost
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India to build worlds largest Nuke plant right on a fault line....the site had 92 quakes in 20 yrs...........unreal

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:50 | 1083361 reader2010
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That's great for rebuild.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:53 | 1083373 Herd Redirectio...
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Check out the Merkel - Hitler comparison:

Not sure they can publish that in Germany!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:34 | 1083536 reader2010
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Shit. You don't know Hilter was groomed and bankrolled by the money elite?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 19:33 | 1083743 Nobody special
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Yes, there are obvious facial similarities.  Bone structure, eye placement, and they both appear to have Adam's apples.  Still, I'm not entirely convinced.  The only way to be certain is to run her through an airport security checkpoint.  Until I see results from that scan, results are inconclusive.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 19:41 | 1083769 jplotinus
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They shouldn't publish it anywhere.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:53 | 1083615 PY-129-20
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Now I am afraid. I hope ORI doesn't live there.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:44 | 1083571 T1000
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This just in from CRN Headline News:

Last week, Japanese scientists explaced... placed explosive detonators at the bottom of Lake Loch Ness to blow Nessie out of the water. Sir Cort Godfrey of the Nessie Alliance summoned the help of Scotland's local wizards to cast a protective spell over the lake and its local residents and all those who seek for the peaceful existence of our underwater ally. 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:45 | 1083156 kaiserhoff
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Tin hats uber alles. 

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 06:45 | 1085213 FEDbuster
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Tin foil lined Kevlar helmets may be what we all need.  1984 + 27

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:53 | 1083187 EscapeKey
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You know, read as satire, that is brilliant.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:18 | 1083267 imapopulistnow
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Read in any other way, it indicate schizophrenia.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:19 | 1083469 -Michelle-
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I agree.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:30 | 1083518 johny2
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you are smarter than the other one.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 19:39 | 1083767 morkov
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:-D , a masterpiece

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:31 | 1083528 mick_richfield
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I'm of two minds about that...


Fed delenda est.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:18 | 1083269 imapopulistnow
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Read in any other way, it indicates schizophrenia.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:18 | 1083472 -Michelle-
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I disagree.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:27 | 1083507 Grimbert
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Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:37 | 1083545 MsCreant
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Awesome. Score!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 19:26 | 1083716 ColonelCooper
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Freakin awesomely played!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:05 | 1083235 Ident 7777 economy
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-1 * (Alex Jones) * 1000

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:22 | 1083282 Confucious 222
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"Chinese and Russian intelligence now report that Germany’s Angela Merkel is the daughter of Adolf Hitler thanks to the use of frozen sperm"

And presumably, the sperm was extracted by a cryogenic succubus in 1945? And then deposited into Herlind Kasner in November 1953, presumably when Horst Kasner was busy contemplating Lutheran theology? More likely the "report" is from Uranus. 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:28 | 1083311 Ahmeexnal
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A $9.99 DNA test could confirm/deny the veracity of Ben Fulford's report.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:42 | 1083564 cosmictrainwreck
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if she's willing....... otherwise I'd be forced to ask "unh huh - so what's she hiding, then, huh?"

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 19:02 | 1083637 PY-129-20
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Hey, if you would say that she cooperated with STASI, I would applaud you. She wasn't certainly one of those brave people that demonstrated in the GDR. Instead, she was an opportunist.

You are certainly missing the obvious. CNBC-creatures are all the grandchildren of a certain Doctor Goebbels.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 20:12 | 1083927 Yes We Can. But...
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A $9.99 DNA test would also confirm that Obooba's biological father is one Frank M. Davis.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:53 | 1083374 reader2010
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Hilter was groomed and bankrolled by the Party of Six. Why David Rockefeller as a boy could get a snapshot of Hilter so close within 3 feet distance in Germanay using his Leica camera back then?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:26 | 1083300 Flakmeister
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  My first reaction is best reflected as this:

We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like "I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive..." And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, which was going about a hundred miles an hour with the top down to Las Vegas. And a voice was screaming: "Holy Jesus! What are these goddamn animals?"

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:19 | 1083479 Harbourcity
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+1 Fear and Loathing bitches!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:55 | 1083619 disabledvet
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in Vegas no less.  Ah, Gonzo...where are you now?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 19:03 | 1083640 Rusty Shorts
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In bat country.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 04:09 | 1085132 Harlequin001
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I dunno, as likely a candidate for a FED job as I have ever seen...

Clearly rational. What's his view on the economy?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:28 | 1083305 gmj
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I'm welding up a tinfoil hat out of quarter inch steel plate.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 04:12 | 1085131 Harlequin001
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Yeah, and I'm gonna nail mine on too...

In fact, I already have...

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:28 | 1083313 mdwagner
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In addition, Chinese and Russian intelligence now report that Germany’s Angela Merkel is the daughter of Adolf Hitler thanks to the use of frozen sperm and the expertise of a Nazi doctor captured by the Soviets. That means she is almost certainly one of the ringleaders of the Nazi faction still hoping for a fascist world totalitarian government.



The only thing missing from this article was something about the Japan earthquake being a sacrifice to the fire demon Molech carried out by the Illuminati.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 04:15 | 1085138 Harlequin001
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'In addition, Chinese and Russian intelligence now report that Germany’s Angela Merkel is the daughter of Adolf Hitler thanks to the use of frozen sperm and the expertise of a Nazi doctor captured by the Soviets.'

and let's not forget the bicycle pump and the can of spam.

Clearly this man is good for government.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:39 | 1083341 StychoKiller
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Hmm, your name Robert Anton Wilson, perchance?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:49 | 1083359 Herman Strandsc...
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 Das ist ein joke. Richtig?

Herman Strand-Schnecke


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:43 | 1083569 latcho
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thanks for the good times here at ZH

see ya next lifetime !

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 19:35 | 1083751 ColonelCooper
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"In addition, Chinese and Russian intelligence now report that Germany’s Angela Merkel is the daughter of Adolf Hitler thanks to the use of frozen sperm and the expertise of a Nazi doctor captured by the Soviets. That means she is almost certainly one of the ringleaders of the Nazi faction still hoping for a fascist world totalitarian government."

So a nutjob claims that foreign inteligence services, working together, have determined that Merkel is Hitler's daughter.  And you think she should take a DNA test?  Based on some shit you read in a blog? 

Can you say "Cuckoo for Fucking Cocoa Puffs, Batman"? 

It was a worthwhile read though.  Shit like that makes me realize I'm not quite as nuts as I sometimes think I am.


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 20:22 | 1083978 Trillax
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Wait.. even through my double-malt scotch fog and ultra industrial tin hat head covering -- I pray this is an attempt at sarcasm. ;)

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 01:12 | 1084923 d_senti
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Please, please, PLEASE tell me no one is this stupid. I have no faith in humanity (obviously, since I'm on ZH, lol), but please tell me whoever wrote this has a mental disorder and that no one is gullible enough to believe something this stupid.


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 04:07 | 1085127 Harlequin001
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I got about as far as line 3 before the big 'OFF' button came on...

just off to find something more interesting to do, like pick my nose... or sharpen my lightsaber... or something...

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:55 | 1086134 snakeboat
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very creative writing, that.   White Dragon Society?  peyote much??

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:53 | 1082565 DrStrangelove
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plug that phucer in

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:46 | 1083583 latcho
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damn I need a new thumbnail, didn't see you before.
Are you also a delayed Hitler's sperm clone ?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:52 | 1082568 Hang The Fed
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Somehow, I get the idea that even if a fucking mushroom cloud bloomed over that plant, TEPCO would still be insisting that they're "making progress."  At what?  Rendering an entire island nation an uninhabitable wasteland?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:30 | 1082803 OpenEyes
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I'm no expert on thermal imaging, but it sure looks to me like the entire Reactor #2 building is HOT.  A big yellow square.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:49 | 1082904 barkingbill
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exactly that already happened. they had a mushroom cloud explosion and they said they were making progress. that happened already. they said it was a hydrogen explosion. 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:10 | 1083246 Hang The Fed
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The whole thing is completely asinine.  BAD IDEA: Build reactors atop fault lines, especially ones on the ring of fire.  BAD IDEA: Consistently obfuscate, if not outright lie, about what's going on as said reactors disintegrate in the wake of natural disaster.  BAD IDEA: Continue lying, even when the preponderance of evidence suggests that you're so full of shit that you probably wipe your mouth with toilet paper on a routine basis.

GOOD IDEA:  Get the fuck out of Dodge.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:44 | 1083350 StychoKiller
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WORSE IDEA:  Build 6 reactors so close together that if one has a problem, no Humans can fix it!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:29 | 1083523 geminiRX
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Actually, I don't think the fault line was the problem - it was the proximity of the reactors to the shoreline. From what I could surmise, the reactors survived the initial quake and it was the tsunami that caused the catastrophic failures. I thought those reactors stood up quite well to a magnitude 9 quake (as pretty much nothing survives such a rumble).

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:56 | 1083620 Arch Duke Ferdinand
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""Somehow, I get the idea that even if a fucking mushroom cloud bloomed over that plant, TEPCO would still be insisting that they're "making progress."""

Who's gonna believe Japan's MSM?....

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:55 | 1082573 Alea Iacta Est
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Please Remain Calm!  The Ministry of Thermal Redaction has raised the safe limit of heat exposure for humans to 130 degrees Celsius.  The workers may now enter the chamber to begin repairs.


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:04 | 1082622 SilverIsKing
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How long until they raise it to 150?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:50 | 1083360 baserunr
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Depends on how many functioning technicians they have left.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:10 | 1083443 CPL
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maybe they'll offshore the idea.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 06:50 | 1085221 FEDbuster
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Fahrenheit 451 coming soon.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:26 | 1082764 Dirt Rat
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Congratulations! You're now a ZH tweet. User-generated content is what the web is all about, I guess. Any time we can give back to TD and the rest is a very good thing. ZH is an absolutely invaluable resource. And their tweets are great!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:55 | 1082574 slaughterer
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"Hot, hot, hotter than hell."

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:13 | 1083009 Windemup
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Thermite anyone?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:34 | 1083103 DaveyJones
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yes, just like those other famous thermal images. Will these be ignored too 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:53 | 1083371 avonaltendorf
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I hadn't thought of it before, but yes, it's possible there was enough iron and aluminum debris for thermism.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:55 | 1082575 FranSix
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What causes grey smoke in a fire?

"Thin, light-coloured smoke moving lazily out of the building usually indicates a small fire involving ordinary combustibles. Thick, dark grey smoke “pushing” out of a structure, suggests a larger, more intense fire. Afire involving petroleum products will produce large quantities of black, rolling smoke that rises in a vertical column."

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:06 | 1082627 ZackAttack
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What causes grey smoke in a fire?


They failed to elect a pope?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:11 | 1082665 mirac
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Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:18 | 1082715 ArgentDawn
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Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:50 | 1082915 SilverRhino
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Black smoke is when the election for pope fails.  

White smoke is when the election for the pope is settled.

Gray smoke?   We got fucking Schrodinger's pope!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:03 | 1082973 slewie the pi-rat
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lol!  jumping catatonic, catentropic cats!!!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:27 | 1083309 Natasha Fatale
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Schrodinger's pope... nice, very nice.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:27 | 1083310 Natasha Fatale
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Schrodinger's pope... nice, very nice.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:43 | 1083578 Flakmeister
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Not bad at all....

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:00 | 1082577 pauldia
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Kissing Cousins....


(PJM Exclusive) Iran Orders Attacks on Saudi Interests Worldwide Furious over Bahrain, Iranian leaders are openly recruiting suicide bombers to strike at the kingdom. March 21, 2011 - by 'Reza Kahlili' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pajamas Media

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:56 | 1082578 EscapeKey
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128 C is nothing. Hell, my AMD graphics card easily reaches 90.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:00 | 1082582 Boilermaker
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About 260 F but, I assume, that's at the surface of the structure and not the reactor itself.  It can't be the reactor itself (or at least not the core).  I think the point was to show that #3 is still hot relative to the others.

That's one seriously hot graphics card. It's like a easy-bake-laptop if that's a fact.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:59 | 1082589 Alea Iacta Est
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Honestly, what are they complaining about?  Strap on a few heatsinks...maybe some liquid cooling and you're good.  Hook that up to a Rad-Suit and get some workers in there....  

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:26 | 1082763 Rusty_Shackleford
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Gordon Freeman and his HEV suit could fix it. 

His old man is a television repairman, and he's got this ultimate set of tools.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:10 | 1082987 slewie the pi-rat
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thank goodness! the maytag repairman just peeled outa the grocery parking lot and is fishtailing outa town, screaming, I don't do GE, I don't do GE...

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:50 | 1082913 Squid-puppets a...
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it's a bit dicey to send in the workers. Perhaps we send in anne coulter, she seems to think it'll give her a nice tan

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:18 | 1083041 Alea Iacta Est
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Why the cold feet?  We can always print more workers.  Wait a minute....I think I am starting to get my Tyrannical Methodologies crossed....

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:05 | 1082629 Suisse
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That's what I was thinking too, my GTX 470s can hit 91 degrees celsius under load.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:26 | 1082777 oklaboy
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Escape, can I sit on your lap? I'm about 98.6

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:11 | 1082995 Sabibaby
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Not hot enough fancy pants, that's only about 37C

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:15 | 1083018 slewie the pi-rat
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lol! p'raps the lady woulda found it preferable to sit on yours?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:33 | 1083109 EscapeKey
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I don't know if Anna Chapman - my avatar - would like to sit on your lap. I, however, am afraid I will have to pass. Thanks for the offer, though.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 19:20 | 1083701 Conrad Murray
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It's a trap!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:16 | 1083019 tmosley
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That is the temperature after is is spread out across the containment vessel.  You graphics card might be fine at 90C, but what if the outside of your case was 90C?

Reactor two looks REALLY BAD, as the whole building looks very hot.  Not good, considering the power is out there.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:04 | 1083231 perchprism
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My understanding is that Reactor 2 didn't blow its stack in a hydrogen blast because they weren't able to relieve reactor vessel pressure due to a faulty vent.  No venting, no hydrogen.

But the venting was supposed to be done, due to high reactor pressure, and couldn't be accomplished.  So what does that mean?  Is the reactor vessel stable?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:13 | 1083256 PhattyBuoy
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It has to be > 5 Sv in those buildings ... might be 50 Sv !!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:55 | 1082580 Boilermaker
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Graham cracker, marshmallow, and hershey bar sales poised to soar...CNBC.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:19 | 1082730 Uncle Sugar
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Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:57 | 1082583 TruthInSunshine
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The Japanese Government (which is still blocking youtube, has a no fly zone in place near Fukushima, and has gag orders on Fukushima workers), TEPCO, the IAEA, Dr. Josef Oehmen, Dr. Monreal, and many, many other institutions and individuals have assured everyone that the situation is stable, that there is little risk of any harm, and that we should all just move on from this subject, because Fukushima Daiichi is being wound down safely and quietly, and will soon be but a footnote in history books.


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:01 | 1082605 FranSix
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Asahi Video has a couple of shorts of spraying water not on YouTube

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:19 | 1082717 Stuck on Zero
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Pardon, but in Japanese that is a "No fry zone."

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:38 | 1082845 Sokhmate
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+raw vegi tables.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:39 | 1082859 max2205
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"no die zone" they raised the thresh hold

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:27 | 1082786 Motorhead
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The Nippon gov't is blocking YouTube?  Fuck me, I hadn't heard that.

I see their gov't is about as transparent as the one running things at 1600 Penna. Ave.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:29 | 1083086 New_Meat
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no, there were tough decisions to be made.

"Road Trip!"

- Ned

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:57 | 1082584 Battleaxe
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One thing I don't see is a warm river of piss running into the ocean.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:05 | 1082625 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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That is the interesting point that you are first to suggest.

The damage is structural. The whole complex is as dry as a bone right? Dry.

And these thermals are either old or Photo-shopped because as of yesterday there was more heat than that.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:12 | 1082673 Oh regional Indian
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Battle, what about all the stuff that already washed into the ocean with the first wave? I've asked thsi question before, but they keep us dis-tracted with the wind. Meanwhile, what happened with the water in the first day or three? Where is the runoff?

Hwo does radioactive material spread in water? Are spent fuel rods lying in shallow water off the plant right now? Radiating away? I think it's the stuff in the water that is going to "get us".

And today is the 22nd. I'd watch for seminal news that misses the headlines. Collapses always start with what looks like a whimper. A single grain of sand, slipping.


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:16 | 1082694 disabledvet
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are "the rods" simply "floating in the ocean"?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:27 | 1082773 Iam_Silverman
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Most Likely...



Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:28 | 1082780 Oh regional Indian
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Given their density, I presume they would sink. But of course, the Japanee government could re-define the laws of physics, buoyancy et. al. tomorrow, so who knows.

In some mythical land, they could be floating too.


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:21 | 1083045 disabledvet
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just wonderin'.  i mean "what if the rods are not there?"  should we care?  do we try and find them?  do we collect them because of their "rare-ity"

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:12 | 1083452 Clinteastwood
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This just in:

The Chinese took delivery of 4 Plutonium rods, drilled holes in them and found------you guessed it-------TUNGSTEN!!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 19:05 | 1083645 PY-129-20
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Wooooho! That's bad, dude.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:35 | 1082808 Battleaxe
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I assume that as big as the tsunami was it washed into the cooling pools. They are open on top. The buildings enclosed them then, but I doubt they were watertight. The tsunami was more of a swell that lasted several minutes instead of a momentary wave. Those cooling pools were filled with water that was in direct contact with the fuel rods. The radiation that got into the ocean will dilute more and more, but it lasts so long and will only add to the accumulated radiation from all of the old nuclear tests, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, nuclear sub accidents, glow in the dark watches, etc....

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:48 | 1082899 Iam_Silverman
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"I assume that as big as the tsunami was it washed into the cooling pools"

Considering that the top of the SFP's are at about the 98 foot level, that must have been one heck of a tsunami!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:20 | 1083049 slewie the pi-rat
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we are talkin abt a paid troll here, silverMan.  hasn't written an intelligent line in 4 days, at least...probably should be hospitalized for the good of the community, if you ask me.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:23 | 1083060 disabledvet
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from where i sit...and i am sitting down for this one..."there is no more building."  so again "where is the pool"?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:42 | 1083140 New_Meat
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OrI: "With the first wave" there had been no containment breach.  Only after tsunami (apparently) washed away the emergency diesel generator fuel day tanks and (I guess) safety related tanks cracked/started leaking; therefore cooling water sources were/went dry.  Pump suction lost.

"Hwo does radioactive material spread in water?"

Indistinguishable from non-radioactive elements.  Brownian mixing if particles are small.  If particles bigger, will just settle out.  Tides are skosh' ~1m.

"I'd watch for seminal news..."

I didn't know you worked for the SEC ;-)

- Ned

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:53 | 1083377 Joeman34
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Big fail on your 'something's gonna happen this weekend due to supermoon prediction' eh, Indian.  You know, if you keep saying something bad is going to happen - eventually you might be right...

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:13 | 1083449 Montgomery Burns
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Right, nothing bad happened yet.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 20:43 | 1084077 Iam_Silverman
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"Right, nothing bad happened yet."

Apparently you didn't hear the profanity when I backed the wife's Jeep into the (relatively new) garage door.  So, don't go around sayin' nothing bad has happened!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 19:19 | 1083693 Vagabond
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+1, good call.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:58 | 1082588 Drachma
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Interesting, but the maximum temperatures superimposed on the thermograms are not necessarily the the real maxima on the images' pixel spectrum since the hottest points are clearly saturated, and there is no level or span shown. On most models of infrared radiometrics cameras, white pixels are saturation level.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:11 | 1082658 InconvenientCou...
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rodger that.

should read >=128 C.

Even if the water delivery could get to the right location in sufficient amount, it won't be liquid for long. If the water hits the target at all, look for steam. No steam, means not even getting close.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:19 | 1082712 h4rdware
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Yep, it's hard to put much weight in the figures without some sort of reference. It's just more pointy wavy brightly coloured things to go 'woo' at.

Given no other information (and assuming the figures are good), it's already 62'c in the cool part of the spectrum and at least 128'c in the saturated part. It could be well above that. In fact if you assume white=saturation, and inverse square falloff, it could be 10x that figure.

Final note - a 7-bit digital register will saturate at 127, and signed 8-bit at -128->+127. Probably coincidence, but worth a mention given the above.

Note: Anyone who understands how to read an image like this wouldn't make mistakes of the kind implied here. But the same sort of individual wouldn't present same image without a scale.

Still waiting for good news.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:49 | 1083159 Ident 7777 economy
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Yes .. interesting that they display "128" as the 'high' number ... not reassuring at all that it is within the linear range of the equipment's reliable reading range ... more like it is 'against the peg' as the saying used to be with old analog instrumentation ...

Meanwhile, back at the ranch on #3 last Friday visually (courtesy of DigitalGlobe) we had:

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 21:27 | 1084263 tom a taxpayer
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Yes, and there is the crater in the roof of the turbine #3 bldg from the explosion of reactor #3 and plummeting down of a large chunk of debris.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 22:11 | 1084434 Ident 7777 economy
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Say, I remember that conversation from Friday night ...

Deja Vu ?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:26 | 1082776 sharkbait
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Important point.  128C is hot but doesn't seem hot enough to support a melt-down scenario.  The engineers that know theplant should be able to take a surface temp and calculate the internal temp.  But if the thermal image is only telling us 'something greater than 128C' that is still worrisome.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:54 | 1083200 Ident 7777 economy
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Important point. 128C is hot but ...

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That white splotchy area - we're thinking the IR detectors/focal planar array/the planar thermal array is saturated (maximum temp the Infrared scanner can report out) ... 128 is all she'll read on the high end!

Also, there is the minimum spot size those detectors will report, any small spots will be averaged with the area around it ...


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:45 | 1083356 Randall Cabot
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127C is the temperature used in fermentation processes to sterilize before starting the process. I don't have any idea how that relates to anything but there it is.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:59 | 1082590 Yardfarmer
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the gates of hell are wide open. 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:09 | 1082641 squexx
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No, the gates of hell would be in Israel!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:17 | 1082693 Temporis
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Did a Jewish boy steal your cookie when you were little?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:19 | 1083031 tmosley
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No, but the Israeli government did.

Why do you people conflate hatred of a government with hatred of the people?  

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:05 | 1083233 Seer
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What does "Jewish boy" have to do with it?  The person mentioned a nation state, Israel.  Just so happens that that's an area with quite a bit of importance: Temple Mount mean anything to you? (one of the most HOTLY contested places on the planet)  Perhaps not the gates of Hell, but the fight over it might end up looking much like it...

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:41 | 1082862 Matte_Black
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the gates of hell are wide open.

I hope you're right.

I'm beginning to suspect the Gates of Hell have already shut behind us.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:58 | 1082593 KickIce
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Looks like the Stock Market and the temp on the nuke plant are linked today.  Maybe we can get Robo to chart it for us.  :)

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:00 | 1082594 cornedmutton
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Ohhhh, 128C. Quick, run for the hills!!!!

You do know that the operating temp for these reactors is most likely in the 550 to 650C range, right?  And that during power operations, the fuel could be as high as 1000C, or so.

But let's panic anyway. It's a lot more fun this way.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:02 | 1082611 Drachma
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The heat itself is not the point. The point is that at 128C what water remains slowly boil away. Not good.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:04 | 1082619 MsCreant
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You are nicer than me.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:05 | 1082624 cornedmutton
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At what pressure?

I seem to remember the boiling point of water exhibiting some direct relationship to system pressure...

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:09 | 1082646 Drachma
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Your guess is as good as mine, but if the heat is coming from the SFPs, then we've got 1 atmosphere.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:11 | 1082652 Boilermaker
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I hope they put a pinch of salt in it.  That's a real energy saver.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:18 | 1083035 johnQpublic
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sea water has more than a pinch

i would think that if the containment vessels are leaking, as has been stated, that the pressure to boil is going to be at or about the same as open air boiling point

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:45 | 1083155 New_Meat
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I'm with you on the breach to atm.  Sea water is 102 DegC. - Ned

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:25 | 1082765 Weaseldog
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It's at sea level so the pressure is about 14.7 PSI.

Remember, they are trying to dump water on it with helicopters and water cannons.


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 23:42 | 1084743 MSimon
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That would be 14.7 psia. 0 psig.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:26 | 1083069 disabledvet
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do not junk this man. this is highly entertaining.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:34 | 1083104 cornedmutton
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Jokes on you, dipshit. You can't raise the pool temperature to 128C without pressurizing it. (And no, there's no chance the water has been superheated.)

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