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Thermal Images From Fukushima Indicate Blistering 128 Degrees Celsius Zone In Reactor #3
Thermal images from Fukushima have just been released. One is based on data from Die Welt, the other one comes straight from NHK.
First, from NHK:
Next, a picture from Die Welt, emphasizing Reactor 3 and confirming that previous lies that all temperatures at Reactors 1 through 4, were under 100 degrees Celsius, were nothing but. Note the area indicating 128 oC Celsius. We would assume that is the reactor core area (which refutes the lie). If, instead, that is the spent fuel rod area, then we have some very big problems, even if TEPCO is telling the truth for once.
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Looks like JPM's silver short storage area!
http://truth11.com/2011/03/21/ben-fulford-tsunami-attack-against-japan-t...
Ben Fulford | Tsunami attack against Japan. This attack used nuclear weapons drilled into the seabed by submarines and not HAARP according to senior Pentagon SourcesUS troops and occupation forces flee Japan, their lackeys flee Tokyo
Mar 21, 2011
by Ben Fulford
The United States occupation forces in Japan are staging a major strategic defeat because they know the Japanese defense establishment knows it was elements of the US military that set off the March 11, (311) tsunami attack against Japan. This attack used nuclear weapons drilled into the seabed by submarines and not HAARP according to senior Pentagon Sources. In addition, four months ago they overruled Japanese authorities and placed deadly plutonium into the number 3 reactor at Fukushima, according to the governor of Fukushima prefecture. This was to provide a nuclear cover story for the seabed atomic attack, pentagon sources say. Needless to say, the ring-leaders of this attack are now in hiding and know they will be found.
The attack on Japan was orchestrated by the Bush/Clinton/Rockefeller cabal in an attempt to prevent the upcoming bankruptcy of their criminal corporate government in Washington D.C. That is why they staged the farcical show of “President” Obama of the bankrupt United States signing an “aid” bill for Japan, as if they could terrorize the rest of the world into giving them more money. That is also why they are now desperately trying to use their extortionist nation-wrecking IMF as the new vehicle for a “global currency.”
In addition, Chinese and Russian intelligence now report that Germany’s Angela Merkel is the daughter of Adolf Hitler thanks to the use of frozen sperm and the expertise of a Nazi doctor captured by the Soviets. That means she is almost certainly one of the ringleaders of the Nazi faction still hoping for a fascist world totalitarian government.
The Pentagon, for its part, is running out of oil thanks to a spreading global oil boycott targeting the criminal US corporate government. Bombing Libya will not help their case, just as attacking Japan did not help.
They are whistling in the wind because the whole world despises them and will no longer do business with them, even if this means facing down their threats of additional violence.
Their only hope is to turn over their command and control to General Colin Powell and other decent human beings still to be found within that large, bureaucratic and potentially good organization.
Meanwhile, multiple sources report that cabalist bankers, US military forces, corporate propaganda experts and other occupation forces have left Japan or have withdrawn to Okinawa. Japanese workers at US bases say troops have been withdrawn from all bases on the Japanese mainland, although this is not yet fully confirmed. However, we can confirm that agents of the criminal part of the Federal Reserve board have now left Japan. We would like to bid an especially good riddance to the rapacious bankers who have been stealing Japanese savings and using them to buy up chunks of Japan’s industry.
We can also now say that arch-traitor Heizo Takenaka, the former Finance Minister of Japan, will be facing multiple criminal charges for his crimes against the Japanese people during his time in power with the murderer Junichiro Koizumi.
One example of his criminality that we can prove in great detail in a court of law is his theft of the company Mizawa home. Takenaka illegally and unethically forced financially sound Mizawa Home into a government “financial restructuring agency,” pumped at least $200 million of Japanese taxpayer money into it and then handed it over to his brother who is now chairman of Misawa home. Our sources for this include Chiyoji Misawa, the founder of Misawa Home.
There will also be insider trading investigations into the sudden rise of the stock price of Higashi Nihon House in the month prior to the earthquake. It would only make sense for the share price of that company to rise as it did in the month prior to the tsunami if someone had insider knowledge that a bunch of housing was about to be destroyed. Japan has 3 million empty homes and a shrinking population.
Investigations will also reveal if Takenaka’s take-over of Misawa home was a sign this attack was planned long in advance.
We have also been informed by an astute reader that a Canadian company sent large shipments of Potassium Iodide to South Korea (a treatment for radioactive poisoning) one month before the nuclear “accidents,” in the Fukushima earthquake zone.
A representative of the Satanists was also told by a White Dragon Society representative that their idea that prophecy of the future was written in the stars and could not be changed was balderdash. “We will write our own stars,” he was told.
Finally, this writer went to the volcanic Island of Oshima to watch the supermoon on March 19th. The moon appeared a bright gold in color and had the exact same trajectory over the sky as did the sun on the following day. There were plenty of presumably US military observation planes in the sky over Oshima on that night but they left disappointed. Anything unusual that took place, took place when they were not watching.
This writer would like to add that even if he was given a technology capable of destroying the planet, he would never use it. Using it to save the planet is a different question but, humans already know how to do that.
Wait...I need to break out the Heavy Duty Aluminum Foil and fold me a new hat for this one.
I stopped at Merkel is Hitler's daughter.
I need to finish my new all-lead aluminum foil clad hat before I read the rest.
I am pretty sure that is the #4 reactor, instead of the #3. But regardless, Japanese govt have a bad record of telling the truth.
Also, saw this news on Asahi TV this morning... but no mention in the US media until much later...
U.S. carrier leaves Japanese port to dodge radiationhttp://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20045418-503543.html
Do as what US Military does, not as what US State Department says
India to build worlds largest Nuke plant right on a fault line....the site had 92 quakes in 20 yrs...........unreal
http://nakedempire2.blogspot.com/
That's great for rebuild.
Check out the Merkel - Hitler comparison:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/c5014a44-83f1-4b7e-ab32-732d16ea7a5f/Adolph%20...
Not sure they can publish that in Germany!
Shit. You don't know Hilter was groomed and bankrolled by the money elite?
Yes, there are obvious facial similarities. Bone structure, eye placement, and they both appear to have Adam's apples. Still, I'm not entirely convinced. The only way to be certain is to run her through an airport security checkpoint. Until I see results from that scan, results are inconclusive.
They shouldn't publish it anywhere.
Now I am afraid. I hope ORI doesn't live there.
This just in from CRN Headline News:
Last week, Japanese scientists explaced... placed explosive detonators at the bottom of Lake Loch Ness to blow Nessie out of the water. Sir Cort Godfrey of the Nessie Alliance summoned the help of Scotland's local wizards to cast a protective spell over the lake and its local residents and all those who seek for the peaceful existence of our underwater ally.
Tin hats uber alles.
Tin foil lined Kevlar helmets may be what we all need. 1984 + 27
You know, read as satire, that is brilliant.
Read in any other way, it indicate schizophrenia.
I agree.
you are smarter than the other one.
:-D , a masterpiece
I'm of two minds about that...
Fed delenda est.
Read in any other way, it indicates schizophrenia.
I disagree.
LOL
Awesome. Score!
Freakin awesomely played!
-1 * (Alex Jones) * 1000
"Chinese and Russian intelligence now report that Germany’s Angela Merkel is the daughter of Adolf Hitler thanks to the use of frozen sperm"
And presumably, the sperm was extracted by a cryogenic succubus in 1945? And then deposited into Herlind Kasner in November 1953, presumably when Horst Kasner was busy contemplating Lutheran theology? More likely the "report" is from Uranus.
A $9.99 DNA test could confirm/deny the veracity of Ben Fulford's report.
if she's willing....... otherwise I'd be forced to ask "unh huh - so what's she hiding, then, huh?"
Hey, if you would say that she cooperated with STASI, I would applaud you. She wasn't certainly one of those brave people that demonstrated in the GDR. Instead, she was an opportunist.
You are certainly missing the obvious. CNBC-creatures are all the grandchildren of a certain Doctor Goebbels.
A $9.99 DNA test would also confirm that Obooba's biological father is one Frank M. Davis.
Hilter was groomed and bankrolled by the Party of Six. Why David Rockefeller as a boy could get a snapshot of Hilter so close within 3 feet distance in Germanay using his Leica camera back then?
My first reaction is best reflected as this:
+1 Fear and Loathing bitches!
in Vegas no less. Ah, Gonzo...where are you now?
In bat country.
I dunno, as likely a candidate for a FED job as I have ever seen...
Clearly rational. What's his view on the economy?
I'm welding up a tinfoil hat out of quarter inch steel plate.
Yeah, and I'm gonna nail mine on too...
In fact, I already have...
Obviously!
The only thing missing from this article was something about the Japan earthquake being a sacrifice to the fire demon Molech carried out by the Illuminati.
'In addition, Chinese and Russian intelligence now report that Germany’s Angela Merkel is the daughter of Adolf Hitler thanks to the use of frozen sperm and the expertise of a Nazi doctor captured by the Soviets.'
and let's not forget the bicycle pump and the can of spam.
Clearly this man is good for government.
Hmm, your name Robert Anton Wilson, perchance?
Das ist ein joke. Richtig?
Herman Strand-Schnecke
thanks for the good times here at ZH
see ya next lifetime !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4VlruVG81w
"In addition, Chinese and Russian intelligence now report that Germany’s Angela Merkel is the daughter of Adolf Hitler thanks to the use of frozen sperm and the expertise of a Nazi doctor captured by the Soviets. That means she is almost certainly one of the ringleaders of the Nazi faction still hoping for a fascist world totalitarian government."
So a nutjob claims that foreign inteligence services, working together, have determined that Merkel is Hitler's daughter. And you think she should take a DNA test? Based on some shit you read in a blog?
Can you say "Cuckoo for Fucking Cocoa Puffs, Batman"?
It was a worthwhile read though. Shit like that makes me realize I'm not quite as nuts as I sometimes think I am.
Wait.. even through my double-malt scotch fog and ultra industrial tin hat head covering -- I pray this is an attempt at sarcasm. ;)
Please, please, PLEASE tell me no one is this stupid. I have no faith in humanity (obviously, since I'm on ZH, lol), but please tell me whoever wrote this has a mental disorder and that no one is gullible enough to believe something this stupid.
Please?
I got about as far as line 3 before the big 'OFF' button came on...
just off to find something more interesting to do, like pick my nose... or sharpen my lightsaber... or something...
very creative writing, that. White Dragon Society? peyote much??
plug that phucer in
damn I need a new thumbnail, didn't see you before.
Are you also a delayed Hitler's sperm clone ?
Somehow, I get the idea that even if a fucking mushroom cloud bloomed over that plant, TEPCO would still be insisting that they're "making progress." At what? Rendering an entire island nation an uninhabitable wasteland?
I'm no expert on thermal imaging, but it sure looks to me like the entire Reactor #2 building is HOT. A big yellow square.
exactly that already happened. they had a mushroom cloud explosion and they said they were making progress. that happened already. they said it was a hydrogen explosion.
The whole thing is completely asinine. BAD IDEA: Build reactors atop fault lines, especially ones on the ring of fire. BAD IDEA: Consistently obfuscate, if not outright lie, about what's going on as said reactors disintegrate in the wake of natural disaster. BAD IDEA: Continue lying, even when the preponderance of evidence suggests that you're so full of shit that you probably wipe your mouth with toilet paper on a routine basis.
GOOD IDEA: Get the fuck out of Dodge.
WORSE IDEA: Build 6 reactors so close together that if one has a problem, no Humans can fix it!
Actually, I don't think the fault line was the problem - it was the proximity of the reactors to the shoreline. From what I could surmise, the reactors survived the initial quake and it was the tsunami that caused the catastrophic failures. I thought those reactors stood up quite well to a magnitude 9 quake (as pretty much nothing survives such a rumble).
""Somehow, I get the idea that even if a fucking mushroom cloud bloomed over that plant, TEPCO would still be insisting that they're "making progress."""
Who's gonna believe Japan's MSM?....
http://seenoevilspeaknoevilhearnoevil.blogspot.com/2011/03/you-gonna-believe-japan-msm.html
Please Remain Calm! The Ministry of Thermal Redaction has raised the safe limit of heat exposure for humans to 130 degrees Celsius. The workers may now enter the chamber to begin repairs.
How long until they raise it to 150?
Depends on how many functioning technicians they have left.
maybe they'll offshore the idea.
Fahrenheit 451 coming soon.
Congratulations! You're now a ZH tweet. User-generated content is what the web is all about, I guess. Any time we can give back to TD and the rest is a very good thing. ZH is an absolutely invaluable resource. And their tweets are great!
"Hot, hot, hotter than hell."
Thermite anyone?
yes, just like those other famous thermal images. Will these be ignored too
I hadn't thought of it before, but yes, it's possible there was enough iron and aluminum debris for thermism.
What causes grey smoke in a fire?
"Thin, light-coloured smoke moving lazily out of the building usually indicates a small fire involving ordinary combustibles. Thick, dark grey smoke “pushing” out of a structure, suggests a larger, more intense fire. Afire involving petroleum products will produce large quantities of black, rolling smoke that rises in a vertical column."
http://tinyurl.com/6xjpzlj
They failed to elect a pope?
lol
LOL!
Black smoke is when the election for pope fails.
White smoke is when the election for the pope is settled.
Gray smoke? We got fucking Schrodinger's pope!
lol! jumping catatonic, catentropic cats!!!
Schrodinger's pope... nice, very nice.
Schrodinger's pope... nice, very nice.
Not bad at all....
Kissing Cousins....
(PJM Exclusive) Iran Orders Attacks on Saudi Interests Worldwide Furious over Bahrain, Iranian leaders are openly recruiting suicide bombers to strike at the kingdom. March 21, 2011 - by 'Reza Kahlili' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pajamas Media128 C is nothing. Hell, my AMD graphics card easily reaches 90.
About 260 F but, I assume, that's at the surface of the structure and not the reactor itself. It can't be the reactor itself (or at least not the core). I think the point was to show that #3 is still hot relative to the others.
That's one seriously hot graphics card. It's like a easy-bake-laptop if that's a fact.
Honestly, what are they complaining about? Strap on a few heatsinks...maybe some liquid cooling and you're good. Hook that up to a Rad-Suit and get some workers in there....
Gordon Freeman and his HEV suit could fix it.
His old man is a television repairman, and he's got this ultimate set of tools.
thank goodness! the maytag repairman just peeled outa the grocery parking lot and is fishtailing outa town, screaming, I don't do GE, I don't do GE...
it's a bit dicey to send in the workers. Perhaps we send in anne coulter, she seems to think it'll give her a nice tan
Why the cold feet? We can always print more workers. Wait a minute....I think I am starting to get my Tyrannical Methodologies crossed....
That's what I was thinking too, my GTX 470s can hit 91 degrees celsius under load.
Escape, can I sit on your lap? I'm about 98.6
Not hot enough fancy pants, that's only about 37C
lol! p'raps the lady woulda found it preferable to sit on yours?
I don't know if Anna Chapman - my avatar - would like to sit on your lap. I, however, am afraid I will have to pass. Thanks for the offer, though.
It's a trap!
That is the temperature after is is spread out across the containment vessel. You graphics card might be fine at 90C, but what if the outside of your case was 90C?
Reactor two looks REALLY BAD, as the whole building looks very hot. Not good, considering the power is out there.
My understanding is that Reactor 2 didn't blow its stack in a hydrogen blast because they weren't able to relieve reactor vessel pressure due to a faulty vent. No venting, no hydrogen.
But the venting was supposed to be done, due to high reactor pressure, and couldn't be accomplished. So what does that mean? Is the reactor vessel stable?
It has to be > 5 Sv in those buildings ... might be 50 Sv !!
Graham cracker, marshmallow, and hershey bar sales poised to soar...CNBC.
+1
The Japanese Government (which is still blocking youtube, has a no fly zone in place near Fukushima, and has gag orders on Fukushima workers), TEPCO, the IAEA, Dr. Josef Oehmen, Dr. Monreal, and many, many other institutions and individuals have assured everyone that the situation is stable, that there is little risk of any harm, and that we should all just move on from this subject, because Fukushima Daiichi is being wound down safely and quietly, and will soon be but a footnote in history books.
Asahi Video has a couple of shorts of spraying water not on YouTube
http://video.asahi.com/
Pardon, but in Japanese that is a "No fry zone."
+raw vegi tables.
"no die zone" they raised the thresh hold
The Nippon gov't is blocking YouTube? Fuck me, I hadn't heard that.
I see their gov't is about as transparent as the one running things at 1600 Penna. Ave.
no, there were tough decisions to be made.
"Road Trip!"
- Ned
One thing I don't see is a warm river of piss running into the ocean.
That is the interesting point that you are first to suggest.
The damage is structural. The whole complex is as dry as a bone right? Dry.
And these thermals are either old or Photo-shopped because as of yesterday there was more heat than that.
Battle, what about all the stuff that already washed into the ocean with the first wave? I've asked thsi question before, but they keep us dis-tracted with the wind. Meanwhile, what happened with the water in the first day or three? Where is the runoff?
Hwo does radioactive material spread in water? Are spent fuel rods lying in shallow water off the plant right now? Radiating away? I think it's the stuff in the water that is going to "get us".
And today is the 22nd. I'd watch for seminal news that misses the headlines. Collapses always start with what looks like a whimper. A single grain of sand, slipping.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/21/what-can-i-do/
are "the rods" simply "floating in the ocean"?
Most Likely...
<sarc/off>
Given their density, I presume they would sink. But of course, the Japanee government could re-define the laws of physics, buoyancy et. al. tomorrow, so who knows.
In some mythical land, they could be floating too.
ORI
just wonderin'. i mean "what if the rods are not there?" should we care? do we try and find them? do we collect them because of their "rare-ity"
This just in:
The Chinese took delivery of 4 Plutonium rods, drilled holes in them and found------you guessed it-------TUNGSTEN!!
Wooooho! That's bad, dude.
I assume that as big as the tsunami was it washed into the cooling pools. They are open on top. The buildings enclosed them then, but I doubt they were watertight. The tsunami was more of a swell that lasted several minutes instead of a momentary wave. Those cooling pools were filled with water that was in direct contact with the fuel rods. The radiation that got into the ocean will dilute more and more, but it lasts so long and will only add to the accumulated radiation from all of the old nuclear tests, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, nuclear sub accidents, glow in the dark watches, etc....
"I assume that as big as the tsunami was it washed into the cooling pools"
Considering that the top of the SFP's are at about the 98 foot level, that must have been one heck of a tsunami!
we are talkin abt a paid troll here, silverMan. hasn't written an intelligent line in 4 days, at least...probably should be hospitalized for the good of the community, if you ask me.
from where i sit...and i am sitting down for this one..."there is no more building." so again "where is the pool"?
OrI: "With the first wave" there had been no containment breach. Only after tsunami (apparently) washed away the emergency diesel generator fuel day tanks and (I guess) safety related tanks cracked/started leaking; therefore cooling water sources were/went dry. Pump suction lost.
Indistinguishable from non-radioactive elements. Brownian mixing if particles are small. If particles bigger, will just settle out. Tides are skosh' ~1m.
http://www.mobilegeographics.com:81/locations/5887.html
I didn't know you worked for the SEC ;-)
- Ned
Big fail on your 'something's gonna happen this weekend due to supermoon prediction' eh, Indian. You know, if you keep saying something bad is going to happen - eventually you might be right...
Right, nothing bad happened yet.
"Right, nothing bad happened yet."
Apparently you didn't hear the profanity when I backed the wife's Jeep into the (relatively new) garage door. So, don't go around sayin' nothing bad has happened!
+1, good call.
Interesting, but the maximum temperatures superimposed on the thermograms are not necessarily the the real maxima on the images' pixel spectrum since the hottest points are clearly saturated, and there is no level or span shown. On most models of infrared radiometrics cameras, white pixels are saturation level.
rodger that.
should read >=128 C.
Even if the water delivery could get to the right location in sufficient amount, it won't be liquid for long. If the water hits the target at all, look for steam. No steam, means not even getting close.
Yep, it's hard to put much weight in the figures without some sort of reference. It's just more pointy wavy brightly coloured things to go 'woo' at.
Given no other information (and assuming the figures are good), it's already 62'c in the cool part of the spectrum and at least 128'c in the saturated part. It could be well above that. In fact if you assume white=saturation, and inverse square falloff, it could be 10x that figure.
Final note - a 7-bit digital register will saturate at 127, and signed 8-bit at -128->+127. Probably coincidence, but worth a mention given the above.
Note: Anyone who understands how to read an image like this wouldn't make mistakes of the kind implied here. But the same sort of individual wouldn't present same image without a scale.
Still waiting for good news.
Yes .. interesting that they display "128" as the 'high' number ... not reassuring at all that it is within the linear range of the equipment's reliable reading range ... more like it is 'against the peg' as the saying used to be with old analog instrumentation ...
Meanwhile, back at the ranch on #3 last Friday visually (courtesy of DigitalGlobe) we had:
http://oi53.tinypic.com/dz9jj6.jpg
Yes, and there is the crater in the roof of the turbine #3 bldg from the explosion of reactor #3 and plummeting down of a large chunk of debris.
Say, I remember that conversation from Friday night ...
Deja Vu ?
Important point. 128C is hot but doesn't seem hot enough to support a melt-down scenario. The engineers that know theplant should be able to take a surface temp and calculate the internal temp. But if the thermal image is only telling us 'something greater than 128C' that is still worrisome.
Important point. 128C is hot but ...
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That white splotchy area - we're thinking the IR detectors/focal planar array/the planar thermal array is saturated (maximum temp the Infrared scanner can report out) ... 128 is all she'll read on the high end!
Also, there is the minimum spot size those detectors will report, any small spots will be averaged with the area around it ...
127C is the temperature used in fermentation processes to sterilize before starting the process. I don't have any idea how that relates to anything but there it is.
the gates of hell are wide open.
No, the gates of hell would be in Israel!
Did a Jewish boy steal your cookie when you were little?
No, but the Israeli government did.
Why do you people conflate hatred of a government with hatred of the people?
What does "Jewish boy" have to do with it? The person mentioned a nation state, Israel. Just so happens that that's an area with quite a bit of importance: Temple Mount mean anything to you? (one of the most HOTLY contested places on the planet) Perhaps not the gates of Hell, but the fight over it might end up looking much like it...
the gates of hell are wide open.
I hope you're right.
I'm beginning to suspect the Gates of Hell have already shut behind us.
Looks like the Stock Market and the temp on the nuke plant are linked today. Maybe we can get Robo to chart it for us. :)
Ohhhh, 128C. Quick, run for the hills!!!!
You do know that the operating temp for these reactors is most likely in the 550 to 650C range, right? And that during power operations, the fuel could be as high as 1000C, or so.
But let's panic anyway. It's a lot more fun this way.
The heat itself is not the point. The point is that at 128C what water remains slowly boil away. Not good.
You are nicer than me.
At what pressure?
I seem to remember the boiling point of water exhibiting some direct relationship to system pressure...
Your guess is as good as mine, but if the heat is coming from the SFPs, then we've got 1 atmosphere.
I hope they put a pinch of salt in it. That's a real energy saver.
sea water has more than a pinch
i would think that if the containment vessels are leaking, as has been stated, that the pressure to boil is going to be at or about the same as open air boiling point
I'm with you on the breach to atm. Sea water is 102 DegC. - Ned
It's at sea level so the pressure is about 14.7 PSI.
Remember, they are trying to dump water on it with helicopters and water cannons.
That would be 14.7 psia. 0 psig.
do not junk this man. this is highly entertaining.
Jokes on you, dipshit. You can't raise the pool temperature to 128C without pressurizing it. (And no, there's no chance the water has been superheated.)