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Things That Make You Go Hmmm - "Is It Safe?"

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Sat, 06/04/2011 - 20:14 | 1340215 Don Quixotic
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So does this imply that you should go long the dollar/short the euro? Could this ultimately be dollar bullish and sustain the status quo (the dollar as the world reserve currency)?

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:10 | 1340223 Ahmeexnal
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Yes, for a short while that may be so.  The time is near for the euro-oligarchs of ages old (royal families) to go to war again. They enjoy that game all too much. The power rush it gives them as the serfs drop dead by the millions is intoxicating.


And on the subject of the art of war, Yemen burns as bombs fall on Sana'a.

Among the injured: Yemeni despot Ali Abdullah Saleh:


He was admitted into a Saudi hospital to be treated for fatal wounds:


$6USD/gallon gas coming next week to your local pump. Change you can believe in!


How long until the spaniard serfs start firing rockets into the Palacio Real de Madrid?

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 22:02 | 1340410 vxpatel
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How long before the American serfs show up on wall street with their guns and start taking out bankers? or at least the unemployed sheeple drive their cars and park in the middle of the street and cause massive chaos in Manhattan as a protest...and shut down the NYSE?

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 22:09 | 1340442 Vic Vinegar
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The answer to both of your questions is never.  The few that may try to will be ridiculed and spend the rest of their lives in jail or be killed.

So you may want to find another way to spend the time.  Family, friends, internet porno and internet trading are some suggestions.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 04:31 | 1340745 Don Quixotic
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I agree. In the end violence hase never definitively answered the questions that we are (once again, for the thousandth time in history) have been forced try to answer. The changes that some strive to bring about through violence cannot ultimately be brought about through violence. The day of reckoning can only be postponed and be made worse by its use. (sound like something else that's going on right now?) 

The changes that are necessary can only come about through individual change on the part of all indivuduals. Is a police officer going to threaten violence to dispossess someone who could well be their neighbor of their property at the behest of some financial institution? "I'm just doing my job" is never sufficient justification for any evil act. No, not even if saying it makes you feel better. However, we are all constantly at the mercy of the sum total of the decisions made by the individuals around us. To paraphrase a great man I once heard, must we threaten them with death or share with them our lives? 


So we must continue to believe that individuals are capable of the positive change necessary to once and for all answer these questions that we as humans have been putting off (read - kicking the can down the road); because, if that's not true then all the violence in the world won't help.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 13:13 | 1341359 vxpatel
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It's tragic that few people even consider themselves to be indviduals, and almost none are in a Jungian sort of way true individuals...but the thundering herd must be stopped...the only way is to shut down wall street...i think a series of traffic jams could delay trading for a few mornings and send a strong message...

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 17:01 | 1341837 DosZap
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Is a police officer going to threaten violence to dispossess someone who could well be their neighbor of their property at the behest of some financial institution?


Do you live in the USA?.


Must not.


As people are ousted regularly from their homes for judgement for non payments.

BY FORCE if they do not abide.


Get foreclosed on legally, and see how that works for ya.


 In the end violence hase never definitively answered the questions that we are (once again, for the thousandth time in history) have been forced try to answer.( Tell it to the Founders).


Sometimes, force is the only way,we hate it, but history is replete with that being the last resort to victory.


Sun, 06/05/2011 - 19:12 | 1342016 Don Quixotic
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With respect to the Founding Fathers of America, let me explain why their actions go to the heart of my point above. Here is a group of brilliant men who were forced to violently throw off their oppressors and by doing so managed to change the course of human history... for a time; however, because their movement (for lack of a better word) failed to change the weaknesses of the individuals with whom they associated they only offered a change in the institutional sense (the Constitution vs. monarchy.) For that reason alone their great experiment came up short. They were forced to accomodate the clear evil of slavery and then in order to rid themselves of that evil future generations were forced to accomodate Federalism with unlimited power (which other than the end of slavery and the utter impoverishment of the South was the major outcome of the Civil War.) Furthermore, because the individuals in America are not in any meaningful way better people than humans anywhere else in the world morally, we now see a resurgence of slavery in America through the sex trade and global human trafficing. 


The reason there is a sense even among those in MSM that America seems to be coming unglued at the fringes is because the Founding Fathers, despite the great good that they did, were unable to find a meaningful solution to that one thing which is the root cause of all our problems: individuals who are willing to do evil things because it's expedient.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 22:36 | 1340461 Homeland Security
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Now hold on there sparky, let's not get all independent and start thinking for ourselves. The President said he would bring the hope and change, so let's give him some time, he will lead us throught these tough economic times. Maybe you should buy some stock in WHC, I hear they are getting some big government contracts to deal with those people that are not team players.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 22:52 | 1340486 Vic Vinegar
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+3.  Nice avatar, username and comment!

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 20:26 | 1340228 binky
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Go long oil of clove and short sewer-gas diamonds.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 20:30 | 1340235 Don Quixotic
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Thanks for the responses guys. 

@Tyler Durden : Is there any chance we can get some coverage of the ongoing global droughts/floods, their coming impacts on food prices. In particular, the coming crop yield shortfall that is coming due to China's historic drought that threatens to destabalize global food import/export markets seems to go unnoticed in the MSM. Just wondering how long it's going to take before I see something about it on any blog with some commentary about the human cost and the price disrusptions that are most definately coming.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 23:23 | 1340528 TempFlashback
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It looks like Central & South China are about to get some, actually a lot, much needed rain: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2011-06/05/content_12642551.htm

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 04:12 | 1340739 Don Quixotic
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Great to see. Let's hope this is a more regular story in the weeks and months to come. These next few harvests are very important for the entire world.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 04:08 | 1340735 Don Quixotic
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Thank you. I just wasn't looking hard enough on this site. Point taken. I won't bother you again with anything like this.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 13:00 | 1341322 francis_sawyer
Sun, 06/05/2011 - 05:26 | 1340763 lilimarlene1
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The topic of China exporting inflation, while outside of my ken as is discussion of bond markets, was thoroughly flogged here on ZH pages last week, as I recall.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 20:31 | 1340238 Conrad Murray
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So does this imply that you should go long the dollar/short the euro?


Better to get into a real currency. BTC is knocking on $20:


Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:20 | 1340289 Quixotic_Not
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I pity the fool that flips off the Central Bank Cabal!

I don't think the BTC people understand the concept of unlimited .gov resources, but I do appreciate the effort.

BitCoin hacked into an absolute laughing stock in 3..2..1...

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:19 | 1340313 Don Quixotic
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Is 'unlimited .gov fiat currency' = 'unlimited .gov resources'?

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:22 | 1340318 Quixotic_Not
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More or less...

Never forget that law enforcement thugs also earn their attaboys going after the fate resistors too!

¿Tienes puta plata?

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:28 | 1340327 Conrad Murray
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Your countdown has completed and bitcoin is still around. Dat iz epix lulz fail lollerz!!1!

Now, perhaps you care to elucidate on which technological vectors you see as vulnerable in the system. Or were you simply shotgunning shit into the air?

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:42 | 1340352 Quixotic_Not
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You underestimate the gravity of the situation...

Besides, you actually think someone like me that holds physical should trust an "anonymous" online community with my store of wealth?

You do realize that there are hackers out there with more time than money, don't cha'?

I think BTC is nothin' but a fools game!

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:53 | 1340400 Conrad Murray
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Shotgunning shit it is.

You said it would be hacked to bits in 3 seconds. It wasn't. You have no basis for your claims. Fear of destitute hackers and anonymity are the best you can muster. What you think, but cannot advance an argument for, counts for sweet fuck all in fight club.

FWIW, I never said you should trust anything. I was responding to the other Quixotic who asked about being short Euro. I was simply offering up an alternative to those who like to play in the realm of the risky. And, hopefully, as well as more importantly, bringing a bit more awareness to something that has the potential to bring about a profound paradigm shift.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:58 | 1340407 Quixotic_Not
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I never said you should trust anything. I was responding to the other Quixotic who asked about being short Euro...

And your response was, Better to get into a real currency.

BTC ain't no real currency, and it sho' ain't no secure store of wealth!

Good luck with your profound paradigm shift and all that jazz...

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 22:13 | 1340446 FEDbuster
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$35 FRNs = 1 oz silver = 25 lbs. of oatmeal packed for long term storage in 5 gal. pails = 100 rounds of .223 = nice variety can of non-hybrid seeds ....

So many choices, and so little time.


Sat, 06/04/2011 - 22:04 | 1340414 CompassionateFascist
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This is important: there is no such word as "importantly". "Important" is an adjective. NOT an adverb.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 05:57 | 1340777 StychoKiller
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Bah, verbogeny is one of many pleasurettes afforded a creatific thinkerizer.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 06:06 | 1340781 doggings
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as I understand it bitcoin was basically designed and built by hacker types on the same peer to peer technology as the net making a central "takedown" very difficult if not impossible.

of course it can be legislated against in certain countries but they cant stop it outside of their jurisdiction.


Sat, 06/04/2011 - 20:53 | 1340261 francis_sawyer
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"On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero..."

Or do you require the 'Curious George' version (to help you along)...

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:04 | 1340279 Don Quixotic
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That is the 'Curious George' version. The same thing could have been said 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30, 40, 50, etc. about the dollar. And yet here we are. I'm curious about what's going to happen sooner rather than later. Thanks for your input though.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 04:42 | 1340748 Don Quixotic
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Sun, 06/05/2011 - 04:59 | 1340750 globalcapital
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Important developement in world's largest (Banana) Democracy.

A must for people who want to  develop the right perception of India. The developments of the last 24 hours have been phenomenal to say the least. There are huge repercussions for the political stability of India.

Background - A yoga guru will hundreads of millions  of followers took up a fast until death against corruption in India. Across the country millions joined. The  corrupt Governtment got nervous and attacked the peaceful gathering in the middle of night.

Surely one can expect markets to be jittery when they open tomorrow!!

Tyler it would be great if you could put some more light on the stories.

You can get more info here!!





Sat, 06/04/2011 - 20:23 | 1340229 kito
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how can any sane human being feel the euro has any strengh when seeing what is lurking in spain now...i link to mish's latest article..tyler, please give us some insight if you would be so kind



Sat, 06/04/2011 - 20:28 | 1340236 Yen Cross
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 You are correct! Conversely< who want's usd? I'm on your side!

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 06:30 | 1340790 doggings
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hadnt seen this, thanks for the link

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 20:24 | 1340230 slewie the pi-rat
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robert evans get nivens to talk to the Lords so lloyds will insure sir lawrence in case evans kills him, hmmm...?

China has dropped 97 percent of its holdings in U.S. Treasury bills, decreasing itsownership of the short-term U.S. government securi?es from a peak of $210.4 billion in May 2009 to$5.69 billion in March 2011, the most recent month reported by the U.S. Treasury

(from p. 15)

hmmm,...,...happy endings, everyone!

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 20:46 | 1340255 Yen Cross
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 It's just one of those days Slewie. I wish I was gay! Unfortunately I like strong willed women. Doctors, lawyers , microbiologists'

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 20:57 | 1340266 francis_sawyer
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u never expected to spend the weekend defending your sexuality YC, now did you???

For me??... I take you at your word... Leave the others to their fantasies...


Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:04 | 1340277 Yen Cross
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 For the record I'm straight! Would it matter if I wasn't?  Thanks for your comment  Francis-sawyer. People just dig to get information on other people. I have a beautiful girlfrind that is laughing her ass off right now! See ya in Singapore.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:07 | 1340269 slewie the pi-rat
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hey, Y/C!  i'm glad, too!

i'm trying to figure if i got junked b/c i implied bob evans stories might need happy endings, or maybe tyler just came after me for barely mentioning the china/T Bill reference on p 15 of this guy's chartporn, or,... haha...is nothing safe?



Sat, 06/04/2011 - 23:00 | 1340290 Yen Cross
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 Slewie I'm hopping  on the jet right now. I'll speak when we are in the air . Pay no attention. You are well respected. Ignorance is bliss, and most people don't have the mental fortitude, when reading  a paragraph of (Z/H). I'm proud of you, and respect you. We will talk @ 48.     Yen Cross

  I'm linked and in the air! UPDATE @ 12:59 SYDNEY time.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:31 | 1340332 steveo
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Please read this article from March 26, from an Oxford Expert.   Telling people to "stop running away from radiation"


I found his email address through a web search, here it is.   I suggest that as many people as possible email him and ask him if he still feels the same way.


Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:34 | 1340345 mynhair
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WTF?  Too busy worrying about some bitch that killed her kid in FL to pay attention.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 23:53 | 1340571 Yen Cross
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My ears are always open to your thoughts, My friend!

    Yen Cross

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 21:46 | 1340381 serotonindumptruck
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Slightly OT, but Argentina food crops are mentioned in the report. The eruption of the Puyehue volcano on the Chilean/Argentian border has begun. It looks massive. Possibly more volcanoes in the region due to erupt. Seismic activity has increased over the past 24 hours.


Sat, 06/04/2011 - 22:47 | 1340468 mr. mirbach
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Pity this was published before the CNS News hoax was refuted.

Otherwise, spot on. 

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 22:57 | 1340493 ugly_avatar_Muir
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Babe: No. It's not safe, it's... very dangerous, be careful. 


Sun, 06/05/2011 - 01:34 | 1340674 scratch_and_sniff
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Yeah, pulling teeth, that reminds me of something too.

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