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Things That Make You Go Hmmm.... Such As The CFTC's "Endless" Investigation Of Silver Manipulation
From Grant Williams' "Things That Make You Go Hmmm"
...The CFTC proposals stipulate the following: "Spot-month position limit levels set at 25% of deliverable supply for a given commodity, with a conditional spot month limit of five times that amount for entities with positions exclusively in cash-settled contracts What this essentially means is that anybody that has no intention of taking physical delivery of a commodity will NOT be allowed to build a position that is greater then 125% of the total deliverable supply while anybody looking to buy physical metal can only buy 25% of that same supply. They also threw in this little grenade: "Exemptions for bona fide hedging transactions (based on the Dodd-Frank Act’s new requirements for such transactions) and for positions that are established in good faith prior to the effective date of specific limits adopted pursuant to the proposed regulations." In other words, the existing short positions allegedly held by JPMorgan and HSBC amongst others about which the complaints were made, are unaffected by the new rules as they were already established. The WHAT?? Far from being the dog that didn’t bark, the CFTC have become the dog that held the door open for the burglars while they ransacked the house. Elsewhere though, there is another type of barking to be heard as the physical stocks of silver on the COMEX continue to dwindle - from 87,000,000 ounces in 2009 to a little over 32,000,000 ounces a mere 2 years later and sooner or later, if the volatility in silver continues, the answer to the CFTC’s investigation will be discovered not behind closed doors, but in the full glare of the spotlight as the amount of silver available to settle futures expiry gets dangerously close to a shortfall. The more demand we see for physical silver from the likes of China, the more dangerous it gets to allow huge structural shorts to persist. Perhaps that’s why Commissioner Bart Chilton spoke this week in urgent tones about the need to address the issue of position limits? Silver now seems to have stabilized and, with first day notice for the July contract rapidly approaching, it looks as though the battle will once again be joined as silver continues to build a base between $33 and $35. One thing is for certain, the current trend simply CANNOT continue as the stocks of available silver in the COMEX warehouses continue to plummet regardless of fluctuations in the paper price. Sooner or later either the CFTC dog barks, or the market dog will - and THAT will be quite something to hear.
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Pirhanas only take little bites at a time, anyway.
As long as investors continue to play the paper game, the Crimex and CFTC will act criminal and manipulate. If you take physical delivery, then all this shit about position limits and margin requirements means nothing.
Pay the extra commission and buy coins and bars direct from several oulets. What's the problem? Why bother with the thieves? it will cost you time and money.
agreed, stack it.
Why buy silver bullion?
How about because it won't ever go to zero.
Why is that website registered to a nonexistent address? Seems to be registered to Michael V.
I guess that makes your remark SPAM.
Alright, what loser junked this post...........WTF is wrong with you??? Rhetorical.......
"there is no interest on it." in effect the CME is acting as a "shadow Fed" and by raising margin (interest) rates is in my view "confirming what we already know is a problem in Europe" namely that "interest rates still matter" at a minimum in determining risk profile--but "at a maximum" in both "determining an end" although perhaps "simply providing a return." Sovreign defaults have historically been unheard of (just print your way out of it!) but since Argentina of only a decade ago defaulted suddenly "it's appearing everywhere and all at the same time." Gold and silver is of course money. But so is God. And in America as we all know "God is oil."
Sorry for highjacking this top spot but I just saw this video on facebook and wanted to share it with zerohedge. It seems pretty relevant these days and made me lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egUDYu_qmL0&feature=related
I too regret hijacking this prime real estate, but... Please don't kick me off, Tyler, for this...
I am considering writing a blog. This has been going around in my head now for a few days, I have had a lot of time to THINK because my wife has been out of town for over a week. If you are still interested in what I am writing here, please read on... The below is "cut & pasted" from my one page or so outline of article ideas and other thoughts re my blog. This IS kind of long, but you will get the general idea of what I have in mind. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE let me know of any interest. If I do not get anyone interested, I will not go forward... Please send any comments to my name (moniker) at gmail dot com. Thank you! And please read on...My blog will be about a wide variety of subjects of interest to me, but that I hope would be of at least passing interest to some of you. I intend to write on a fairly wide range of subjects, many of which are listed below. That list is likely to grow, I hope it does. I would like to state upfront that I am not really an expert on ANYTHING, really. One of the purposes of my blog would be to draw into the discussions the opinions of experts. There are many things I would hope to learn from experts as well as all of you, my friends, virtual friends, family and readers. YES, I want have a robust Comments Section after each article, because I am NOT an expert on ANYTHING! I want to learn as well as entertain all of you. I want Comments on my blog! Lots and lots of Comments, because you, my dear readers, are a vastly intelligent and knowledgeable group.
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I'm repeating my comments from the Greece thread in case you missed it. Check out that thread for the time stamps.
They just mentioned this article on CNBC World in the last few minutes.
I am totally appalled at this.
They have no right to elevate themselves to our level of understanding using us in that manner.
Arrrgh.
Arrrgh!
I bought a 2750sf new house for next to nothing paid in cash 10c on the dollar with no mortgage using the knowledge from this site and others on the Internet.
I'm buying hand over fist silver at $35 thanks to CNBC for helping drive the price down for me.
Not a word mentioned from them on the way up to $50, but they sure cheered it on the way down to $35 where I need it to be for a little while longer.
Please don't let them discover the silver bears videos on this site. Please!
CNBC World just mentioned Zero Hedge again in the last couple of minutes. Arrrgh! Can't we keep any secretes of counter deception tactics to ourselves for one freaking minute?
Am I the only freaking person on the planet who realizes the reporters on CNBC are employees of the world central banking cartel? Throw me a freaking bone here. You cant be serious thinking they are independent journalists. Really!
no, you are not alone. cnbc is pure entertainment. it can be enraging at times, but i have learned to zen myself in this bizarro world. fvck cnbc.
http://slv.collective2.com
oops! She's home.
Never mind.
Physical metals are the proper place to store value over time.
I bought some more today on spotmex
#nope 1004, you're headed for yep-2012.
Very good this post,clear and helpful.Forex Trading online.
Totally off-topic, but...
Did AL Queda just take a Pakistani naval base?
WTF?
Hey..........only the moron with the green hair is allowed to hijack threads...........get with the program........
just our CIA and al-cia-du independent contractors hard at work trying to start wwIII
These people can go fuck themselves. So worried about silver, but what about HFT?
... while the CFTC continues to "investigate" you can diversify your portfolio.
In times of change you need new alternatives and new ideas.
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go peddle your dirt somewhere else.
Position limits....it's not only a good idea....it's the law. It's just that we're not going to enforce them right now.
Maybe later....yes....later sounds good.
Screw that whole 3 part government system.....we're the law, the kings, and the sheriff.....all in one.
....and we don't have to show you no stinking badges.
The eternal investigation continues simply because the CFTC is nothing other than a bag man for big bank manipulators- the issuers of worthless fiat. At this point, I could give a shit less about any regulating body...they have proven time and time again they are not interested in a level playing field...just tilting for their elite cronies. We get it assholes.
we wont stop.. and i told ya we wont stop...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7dM4Ze3I3I
Hey CFTC, Your mother's ass is so big when she sits down she's 3 feet taller.
Silver bitchez
I am afraid the Lunatic Fringe has it correct.
Hey! As the Bearing has just finished basic training in the Tinfoil Hat Brigade, I URGENTLY need advice from any of my Superiors here at ZH!
Should I join the Space Batallion? Looks fun...
Or the Lunatic Fringe Batallion? Looks good too.
Or other suggestions? Inquiring Bearings and THB members want to know!
maybe stay autonomous, DC; don't lose your bearings.
keep your hat on!
DCRB, is there any method that I can contact you? Need info on your neck of the woods in SA.
My Dearest DoChen, How many times need I remind you NOT to wear the hat out in public? If you do, you won't be invited to the good parties. Thus, you must LOOK like a sheeple (take off the damn hat) and SPEAK like a sheeple (stop talking about the damn hat). If you fail to do the above, it's re-education for you, my little catapillar....
;o)
Holy hell - no silver bitchez??? Did everyone take the day off here?? WTF? Maybe the rapture only hit ZH posters...
Yeah the zeal for silver is waning. Is this a bottom?
I am looking for signs of.distribution versus consolidation, but i suspect at this point its moves will be based on macro economic trends which are hard to predict.
Everyone should have some gold and silver. Just dont bet the ranch bitchez.
+ $1500, both points.
5% - 20% in gold / silver seems about right to the Bearing, who is at 12% PMs.
I'm guessing you don't care about 88% of your money...
I am VERY diversified. If I could put a small percentage of my assets in another UNIVERSE, I would.
EDIT:
If we get to FOFOA's $55k, then my 12% jumps a LOT.
Yes, but the hangover is going to be a real bitch!
I believe it will be a kinder, gentler change of status.quo as we slowly lose our standard of living.
But by we I really mean all of you!
( sorry..I am a troll!)
Hulk, re the hangover at our Really Big Party, well that's just too damn bad! If by hangover you mean from our current predicament, I agree, the hangover will be REALLY BAD.
top, what a terrible troll you are! Yeah, all of you who do not have the best diversification (and wealth preservation mechanism) in town: physical gold!
Oro putaz!
O.K. I tried to google "Oro putaz" and came back with"bullshit"
What dose it mean?
Oro=gold
Putaz=bitches
Auro, or, oro, ouro are words used to describe gold.
Yup. Even my five percent would go above half, if such a move was not accompanied by ANY rise in silver. Which is unlikely to say the least.
I had something to reply but after looking staring at your avatar I've forgot.
Don't know about others, but my impression is that most people who are interested in physical silver, are currently waiting... either because they did already buy at the current levels, or because they think it will go lower. Not much to talk about, when one is waiting and the price doesn't do much besides of moving up and down between 33-36$.
Too busy stacking up my supply into a little play fort.
I'm stacking mine into a Large play fort.
I'm waiting for someone to add "I'm stacking mine into Fort Knox."
The COMEX will eventually have some competition. Free competition solves virtually all human maladies.
I just read that the shanghai exchange will start trading silver by the end of the year. COMEX will have some competition if that happens, right.
" Free competition solves virtually all human maladies."
That was true on an empty planet. Now we're gliding on a different part of the polynomial.
Is the correction over? Or is it just a trap for the longs?
If someone actually knew the answer they would be rich soon.
I buy on down days.. and I will continue to buy on down days.. until we hit $100.. thats my number.. I have said it over and over and over..
anyone that wants to put my pile of metal against their pile of paper.. today, 1,3,5... is welcome to try.. but I woul encourage that person to atleast hedge 50% in PM's.
Given what your needs are to protect and your internal numbers are going forward.. 1 Y 100% 3 Y 300% was the blended average that we looked for prior to the madness.. Oops, New Normal.. you dont always get to exactly those numbers but it is a bench mark.. but I am Bullish on NOTHING! real esate? have that dont need any more.. unless its a steal... I dont even look at Government Properties any more.. State owned? HeLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL! NO! Hair Cut my ballz!
I am in hard assets.. and cash.. and I can be in how many different cash positions at the click of a button.. see the FX boys for help if you need it.
I was a buyer.. until end of last year.. of dirt and things.. no more!
The drive-by shooting is over. You can come out now.
read below why the CFTC is doing nothing:
http://thesilvergoldhedge.blogspot.com/2011/04/reason-why-cftc-is-doing-...
Doing nothing is just the tip of the iceburg as the spokes woman for the CFTC team had her game on.
http://dailybail.com/home/meet-chairman-bernankes-replacement-happy-hour-in-santa-cruz.html
Spot price will mean little in the future. Premiums will be outrageous.
they already are! the future is today!
Just like gasoline and diesel fuel. They come in and manipulate the hell out of crude oil but high prices at the pumps remain. Because the prices were manipulated crude is inching it's way back up at a pace that keeps pump prices high. As for PM's; they just pulled cocked a spring that being compressed day by day until the straps give way launching prices higher than they would have been.
I like to cut to the chase: "Henceforth, no physical delivery will be permitted, and any long contract will be declared void upon exceeding the purchase price"
How's that?
That would be the buy signal of a lifetime. We should be so lucky.
because there is no physical Silver to deliver.
The problem with the futures market is time. They need a death penalty.
I'm sure if you told comex and JPM that they would be dead in 6 months and they needed to get their affiars in order you wouldn't have a futures market that needed 10 years to take care of next month.
Except these 'huge' shorts are not in the spot, or deliverable month, so exactly how does this "get dangerously close to a shortfall"?
Even those "legacy" shorts have their corresponding longs, and come due sooner or later. I think Dan Norcini probably has it right, that all it would take to destroy the shorts is for a (relatively small) number of longs to stand for physical delivery.
You know how to trade my friend. AUD 1.02456. Hint?
If you're asking; Is 1.02456 a possibility? I'd say yes.
I could be wrong though, I'm still convinced my penny stock gold miners will 'pay' despite a couple of them now trading below their '08 lows, as if that were possible!
They're conspiring to defend what I believe are massive derivative shorts established in March 1980 at the peak silver price, right as the Fed devised a plan to take down silver. They allowed certain banks to front run the order to go "liquidation only" using the Treasury's silver holdings as collateral surreptitiously, with the understanding that the shorts would never need be repaid. They assumed that their trouble with silver would be over for all time. :-) Now that would certainly explain why the brakes were slammed on right below $50 last month. Coincidence? :-)
i think "whenever there is the problem with the money there is a problem with the silver, too" don't you? now let's talk energy markets since "you can't short oil" nor apparently and amazingly "natural gas either" i do agree "check's in the mail" is always a loser. and "let us not forget the updated version" since "we have e-mail now."
What the hell happened to whistleblower Andrew Maguire?
Don't know how he's doing....
....but I think he jumped back into the precious metals fray so to speak.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/72201509/Press-Release-4
I hope he carves out some sort of existence for himself and his 'fam'
Stuck his neck out when he grew a conscience....and got properly 'stitched' up for it I'm sure.
Can't imagine you'd just waltz back into your trading desk and work life after that little fiasco
Thanks for the update. Sounds like a different venue, but the same market. Quite a unique guarantee (If posted trades for that month result in a loss then membership fees for that month will be refunded.)
That hit and run accident must have shaken his resolve to continue, understandable when your family is at risk.
andrew is still fully involved, more so than ever, he is just being made to jump through regulatory hoops like a showdog...will get their eventually and it is more than the cftc now investigating
Silver is going up, QE3 postponed or not. Sell if you want, but do not hold your breath waiting to buy it back without taking a loss.
go ahead and "fight the Fed" as well. i have no doubt QE is ending--but i do agree "it is a simple article of faith of mine at this point" and nothing more. Where's Sudden Debt when you need him?
Fed is digging the hole for itself, no need for anyone to fight them. I read in recent ZH article that silver longs in market are at their lowest level sincle 2009, so if I was gambling in the paper silver, I would rather buy than sell. Still, I prefer just to buy physical according to my means, and let the things happen as they will.
and I did not junk your comment.
it's political. prez0 + ms erica holder are out keeping the world safe from oil traders. the CFTC?
these companies also run out of the City of London. the crimex is only a part of this business. if the LBMA has a problem w/ certain limits, then i'll bet there is a problem with certain limits.
also, the US is certainly not the only country which trades in the PMs as well as currencies.
bart chilton seems to be the good cop. there are two cops, right? hmmm...
Hello Slewie. Lots of eur news coming up on the econ. calendar OOPs I upset some one. I apolgize.
Why don't they just tell us how many of their paper fiats an oz silver is worth and not even bother with their fake price discovery market? Oh. A few people still don't know the markets are broken and manipulated. Ok. After eveyone figures it out just confiscate the shit. Close down the COMEX and try to get everyone to play lotto instead.
Some must see charts on silver:
http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/silver-price-collapse-reminds-of-risks-in-paper-market/
Wht did they even try to pretend to 'investigate'? Just makes 'em look inept(er)
How come us plebes have to play in this ridiculous rat race. The economy is obviously rigged. All major financial institutions just got bailed out, are given "liquidity" at 0% interest. What do we get? A huge austerity dick in our ass? I didn't spend all the governments money. Should I be happy if the stock market goes up? I'm not a shareholder, I'm not part of the global investor class. I don't get a dividend check every time some company figures out a way to better systematically rape populations and governments for quarterly profits.
This system is wack. Who is really defending this shit anymore?
CNBC says the austerity dick is bullish for stocks. Or they will anyway.
At some point the CFTC will become irrelevant. They are already behind the curve.
Are you joking the CFTC is the fall guy, left holding the baby , what ever you want to call it , think about it Morgan ,HSBC do not want to be the ones seen as rigging the market , so when it all caves in they will blame the CFTC and they are the ones that COULD face prison , whilst Morgan HSBC walk away.
every con has a 'mark'
Thats what I just said on here a couple of days ago..
I knew it was a farce to start with, why the hell would you announce that you are doing an investigation to the fucking world..You do the damn investigation then charge the mother fuckers..Wells notices and warrant/indictments are how it should be disclosed that its going down..Thats like holding a press conference to say "were investigating pakistan possibly hiding bin laden" just go get the bastard already...
That announcement was a delay tactic only..Next statements will be "we cant comment about on going investigations" They may however charge some nobody for banging the close in lumber futures...
Too big to arrest.
Four letter word...
FUCK
ah, no sorry I meant
PAPER
Ok, that has five letters. I'm not all that clever.
That purchase limit absurd. People will just bypass the COMEX completely like Sprott does. This is just the CME trying to pretend they can only be in the paper silver business without being a source of supply. All that means is they are going out of business.
Hmmmm. CFTC hosed forex accounts in January. Thank Barnie Fudge Packer for that one.
I won't retract that statement! ED:
I highly suspect that Bawney Fwank is more the fudge packee than the fudge packer.
Either way, just thinking about that fat clown bastard is enough to make me ill.
These position limit exemptions in the futures market are the fly in the ointment, which primarily applies to the large investment bankers like JPM and HSBC, who aren’t hedging physical silver, but rather their huge paper OTC derivatives positions which are indexed to the futures market. In addition, they use the futures market to manipulate the price and value of those OTC derivatives positions. In spite of the fact that these large market players can argue they hold minimal net positions in silver paper, and therefore (paradoxically) shouldn’t be restricted by position limits, they do hold large naked positions in silver futures which exposes them and every other player in silver futures to extreme risk of squeezes and huge price volatility associated with their management of those positions. The obvious fact is that the futures market is a closed zero sum game in itself, regardless of any OTC derivative or physical positions that futures market players hold beyond its borders. As such, large excessive futures positions held by a few players are detrimental to the futures market directly, and indirectly to the OTC and physical markets as well by the common practice of price indexing. It’s a dangerous web which can only be made truly safe and fair for all market participants by holding everyone in the regulated futures market to the same position limits. In other words, position limits for the masses and exemptions for a few are just another example of regulations designed to keep the little guys from beating the big guys at their own rigged game.
Do you want to [post 15m ] to accredit your ability to trade F/X? CFTC is a bunch of worthless children that can't balance a checkbook!
nice post brother..the otc derivatives black box is a monster that will come apart at some point and prove brooksly born right over and over again..
Thank You. OTC is a-freaking Joke. Tyler's crew posted it last week.
Wrong thread.
I c your point.
Some moron wrote a piece published on 321gold about Silver Manipulation and was crying about it. http://www.321gold.com/editorials/anonymous/anonymous052011.html
I came across a rebuttal on a blog that I follow regularly, The Fundamental View... the rebuttal is here.
http://thefundamentalview.blogspot.com/2011/05/this-silver-baby-deserves-slap-and.html
People, and I'm referring to the former anonymous writer, still have no fucking clue!!! Read the links provided in the Fundamental View's rebuttal. I would say the first writer just got bitch slapped.
DrFever
I did not junk you. never will. I double post when the browser locks as well. I'll read your links. Yen Cross.
Double posts.... always by accident. Sorry.
Some moron wrote a piece published on 321gold about Silver Manipulation and was crying about it. http://www.321gold.com/editorials/anonymous/anonymous052011.html
I came across a rebuttal on a blog that I follow regularly, The Fundamental View... the rebuttal is here.
http://thefundamentalview.blogspot.com/2011/05/this-silver-baby-deserves-slap-and.html
People, and I'm referring to the former anonymous writer, still have no fucking clue!!! Read the links provided in the Fundamental View's rebuttal. I would say the first writer just got bitch slapped.
DrFever
If the "anonymous" author of that shallow anti-silver hit piece was not the angry and bitter Bob Moriarity, the "Jon Nadler of Silver" himself, I will eat my hat.
You're felt lined pirate hat? That IS serious...
Aye, matey, that it be, arrrhhh!
I sure hope it is sooner than later that the crooks are busted including all the CFTC crooks. They are part of it all and obviously have always been doing the bidding of the banks. But who in the govt. doesn't do the bidding of the banks, they are the ones who control all the govt. officials.
the only way these bastards will be busted is when their system blows up....with hyperinflation. Then, they'll take down most of the idiot sheeple with them. The idiots will cry "please fix it!" and the bastards will institute their NWO....and the idiots will all cheer. Reminds of the line in Star Wars #3: "This is how freedom dies.....to cheers".....
"So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause" - Star Wars
"these totalitarian elements will not be forced on people, the people will demand them"
"Finding the bad guys" - 60 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDW4CAAbvA4 - the title is over the top, but Andy sells around the 2:10 mark
Tyler
There is actually a far bigger issue here.
What happens if JP Morgan Chase defaults on its silver shorts? Take the link below and see how the contagion could sink banks all over the world.
See: http://www.zerohedge.com/forum/global-contagion
Kind regards
Ozzie Scott
The paragraphs, I has them.
Holy hell man break this sh*t up a little.
and to the point: so many investigations, so little results.
List of things that I am not: (1) shocked
I really want to move home:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrPOKNU5Ds4&feature=player_embedded#at=159
Hello my darling. Did you notice the (usdjpy ) spike? Did you notice the eur/jpy 115.3 move?)` move over 1.325 eur/usd (eur/jpy) Sorly ( no pun intended) is mad @ me right now. I asked for that eur/gbp trade idea.
+ funny. Actually no forex trading on my end. Too fast.
While SLV has silver and JPM has SLV they will meet Comex obligations...ETFs are part of the scam for these big players in the "market"...so, default will happen but it will take a while....starting to happen in GLD and gold.
QE3...? "The U.S. Treasury Department has opted to hold off on selling more shares in General Motors Co. (GM) until after July as it waits for the stock to climb" per Bloomberg May 12...what do they know that we don't?
"QE3...? ...what do they know that we don't?"
The date
What can't go up must go down. I'll target 31.58.(XAG( The trendline crossover. Run long stops. P.S FX DAILY is a BUNCH OF CHILDREN. Trade with your GUTS,
Longtime lurker, first post. Does anybody on here use James Turk's GoldMoney? How reputable is it? Yes, I know all about having plenty of physical. I have some assets that need to stay "attached" to the financial system for long periods, and I'd prefer not to use banks or keep them in dollars, if possible. The GoldMoney setup seems like exactly what I"m looking for.
Candy, I've used that service before, still have an account with them although no funds in it. They are very reputable,IMO. They used to be a little slow to execute sales and to answer emails but that had changed a year or so ago and the last transaction went very smoothly. Hope that helps.
What can I say....but,FUCK YOU CFTC...
Ya bunch of scum sucking Rthschilds shills....
Make me puke.
Ps....Fuck you to Little Timmy G.
If you weren't using leverage and weren't planning on selling anytime soon, why are you so upset. The only thing you can do about the corruption is capitalize on it. Tip your hat for the raid and go to the coinstore.
I hope they can keep kicking the can down the road another year or two. By then I'll have more Ag than I can carry in 2 duffle bags.
2400oz in a duffle for one hand while holding a pistol in the other seems like a good start. lol....
Just buy physical gold/silver. Crimex will have a seizure soon.
Pun intended, bitchez.
It would be nice if the crimex gatekeepers would go to jail2
I am stacking like a son of a bitch. Got two maples on ebay on a buy now for 55 dollars. Guy had just posted it and I grabbed it. Good luck for me for once. Time for cheap silver is coming to an end soon so stack up chaps.
This can't be serious.
He's stacking like a son of a bitch.... 2 coins?
And no way maples went for that price.
People never make mistakes? I've seen people post crazy low buy it now prices by mistake. I remember seeing a 1oz Gold Eagle put up on ebay with a Silver Eagle buy it now price 20% above spot. He lost out big time because someone jumped on it before he figured out what he did. I'm also betting he reneged on that auction.
2 is the minimum number for stacking, therefore it is not correct to use the term "stacking like a son of a bitch" IMHO.
if he had been buying constantly for the past months, every day, it still counts as stacking like a son of a bitch if on one day it's been just two maples...
HUF! Ag, here I come!
Ah crap, just 1 contract.
The true test for silver will be tomorrow.
ES down 6 points now, dollar is running hard.
"Revulsion" from risk now on tonight. Let's see if silver is dumped with everything else, or if it holds the line.
All a head fake. News was only bullish all weekend.
Blythe has a Sunday night shift. Silver started going up but then took a dive on very low volume. Remember when they waited until 9:30 Monday mornings to do that? Now they must go in when no one is around to manipulate the market. This latest "trick" is now known so people simply go to the terminals and watch for the (manipulated) dip and buy the hell out of it. More physical Silver left the market to strong hands again tonight and Silver has recovered gaining 3 cents as I write this. It must suck to go into work @ 6:00 PM Sunday night and watch your effort to drive Silver prices below $35 a ounce fail miserably.
100% Agreed. We use to be able to set our watches to the 0930-1000 manipulation plunge, but they've gone international now, doing their dirty deeds in the shadows.
Cash-out all your retirement funds and buy PM's (stack-it)! They're gonna confiscate it anyway.......
Ya but why make it troublesome for them.
Let them hit the easy button at the bank of Staples.
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Dodd-Frank Act is just more bullshit passed off as regulation. Its the usual distraction.
Americans either don't care or don't have any money. Why aren't the friends of silver buying scrap silver at more than a 20% discount to spot prices? I've recently seen Sterling sell for less than $.58 per gram (a couple of refineries pay the most--about 80% of spot). I've searched the world over and thought I'd found true love but... instead I found a spread in the scrap silver market wider than I could have imagined. The spread is talking and the spread says that speculation is speculation.
"Why aren't the friends of silver buying scrap silver at more than a 20% discount to spot prices?"
Because they seldom, if ever, have... You new at this?
http://www.silverchatter.com/2009/02/who-will-buy-sterling-silver-for-scrap.html - from '09
"...refiners in the USA generally pay half the spot price of silver for the pure silver weight in sterling silver flatware for scrap" '09
http://www.precious-metal-refining.info/refine-sterling-silver-sheet-wire-scrap-precious-metal-refining-blog/ - '10
"...we typically pay 75% of 925 sterling silver value" - '10
Now, one willing to pay 80% is bound to make a seller's day... But most won't do business with the public anyway.
As far as $.58 a gram... There are "Cash for Unwanted Gold" stories that would put that to shame.
Nothing has changed... 'cept the year.
New to selling physical silver and gold, yes. New to short postions using ETF's, no. The demand for physical non-trading stocks of silver is weak. Why doesn't that market's spread tighten? Midwest Refineries does offer one of the highest prices and they do advertise 90%. The question is one of a macro concern; are the 'smart people' buying and hoarding scrap? I don't think so. Even though I'm a seller and wouldn't be long, it doesn't seem that real demand is there and therefore, I believe the current spot price represents speculation instead of concern or, the scrap price represents a lack of purchasing power by Americans.
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Trying to understand CFTC double speak, 'cos it always is.
Is there a chance, albeit remote, that JPM & HSBC who already have more than 125% will not be able to open any more shorts ?
The statement says, previously held positions "in good faith" ( that's a fucking joke--good faith my ass ) are not included. My take on that is NO NEW POSITIONS UNTIL THE 125% LIMIT IS REACHED ON THE DOWNSIDE.
I'm sure they will argue for total net positions, but a position in %age terms is still a %age whichever side it is on.
But there again they probably won't argue at all, they just don't give a fuck.
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Things that make me go Hmmmmm,,,,, is the current separation between the spot price of gold and silver. This started on Friday. It's continuing today. No doubt, the banksters and countries now know they must go to gold, but the common folk are going to be deprived of our silver value. That's the plan, I think. If you look at the charts, Gold is going up in sharp rises, and silver, the opposite. Anybody?